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T0b3
04-21-2009, 12:52 AM
Hi,

I just read about Lode Runner being priced at 1200 MSP at xbox360fanboy..

Now I'm really mad about this since I don't want to accept that all releases are being so overpriced these days. Flock! was also 1200.. not to mention the 1600 of Puzzle Quest Galactrix (Or was it 16.000?).

What do you guys think? A few months back, I didn't give much a damn about it since there were only 1-2 titles within 3-4 months being priced at 1200 MSP but ever since the most recent Days of Arcade have been started, the only normal-priced game was OutRun..

T0b3

KSizzle
04-21-2009, 12:54 AM
Yeah, it seems like more and more titles are 1200 now. Really lame. I paid 1200 for Braid, but I thought it was worth it. I just hope they all aren't 1200 now. Seems like its becoming the new Marketplace trend...

299
04-21-2009, 01:01 AM
It seems like another way we are getting ripped off. I don't mind spending 1200 on a game and an add-on.

Charlie121
04-21-2009, 01:15 AM
You would think with this economy it would be going down... not up.

CienPR
04-21-2009, 01:18 AM
You would think with this economy it would be going down... not up.

Hit the nail right on the head there. I think MS is watching the stock market upside down.

Bieest Unit
04-21-2009, 01:25 AM
Paid 1200 for Banjo-Kazooie and Castle Crashers. Both were totally worth it.
800 for Alien Hominid was too much though. They should create normal prices, according to what it actually is worth. Not to the preset 800 and 1200.

KNUCKS x360a
04-21-2009, 01:35 AM
The first 2 years of 360 Live will be looked at as the Golden Age soon, 1200+ MS points for a couple hours worth of DLC is a joke!

Glowin Smurff
04-21-2009, 01:36 AM
what happened to the 400MSP games :( from back in the day! i don't mean the newly named 'arcade hits crap' i mean back in 05 when this shit was 400MSP per game.

A Satyr
04-21-2009, 01:40 AM
Banjo tooie will be my last

Bieest Unit
04-21-2009, 01:43 AM
Banjo tooie will be my last
Unless they come up with any other good N64 classics, yes.

Glowin Smurff
04-21-2009, 01:48 AM
i think i'd pay 1200-1600 for a good Goldeneye 64 game.

CLAPSTER
04-21-2009, 05:43 AM
1200 is too pricey. I would like for it to go back to 800.

Hammer 5O2
04-21-2009, 05:59 AM
1200 is the new 800 and 800 is the new 400. Thats the way things go so get use to it. If you don't wanna pay 1200 for an arcade game then don't buy it! Simple as that. People need to stop complaining. No one is forcing them to pay that for a game its one's own personal choice.

Darklord Saige
04-21-2009, 06:01 AM
I think its pretty idiotic personally, I dont have enough cash floating around to purchase a retail title, so thats why I get the 5-10 dollar arcade games...for 1600 I could get 3 used games....

demiesta
04-21-2009, 06:25 AM
is this a joke? 1200 for arcade's hahahah. i will never ever buy a arcade for1200 points. only castle crachers was wourht it. bud no arcade will ever compare to that one.

ps. 2 arcades for a full card. they realy are out of there mind.

demiesta
04-21-2009, 06:27 AM
1200 is the new 800 and 800 is the new 400. Thats the way things go so get use to it. If you don't wanna pay 1200 for an arcade game then don't buy it! Simple as that. People need to stop complaining. No one is forcing them to pay that for a game its one's own personal choice.

they are forcing us to not buy arcades

agentplatypus
04-21-2009, 06:50 AM
While I would prefer 800 I hear Lode Runner is pretty loaded with content and from the reviews I've read its worth it.

Tufty
04-21-2009, 06:57 AM
If there going to up the price of arcade games they should at least up the amount of gamerscore you can get on them.

KNUCKS x360a
04-21-2009, 06:59 AM
If there going to up the price of arcade games they should at least up the amount of gamerscore you can get on them.

Thats a Damn Good point! - I Never considered that.... 250, 300, maybe even 400 points?!

THEN i'd buy a 1200 point game! ;)

mrtrick92
04-21-2009, 07:22 AM
i payed 1200 for castle crashers which from what ive played seem worth it. I was interested in load runner but with a price tag of 1200 its put me off :(

DENAz666
04-21-2009, 08:11 AM
Glad i'm not the only one thinking this.

Certain games i can handle paying that much for, Castle Crashers and Braid were both awesome games that i happily paid for. But shit like DeathTank? Its seriously insulting that MS expect us to pay that much for such a shithouse game!

I personally just don't buy anything that priced 1200 or above, it has to be a really good game if i do.

Tussell
04-21-2009, 08:56 AM
Yay! Another thread with crybabies!

Accept the fact that Microsoft raises their prices for things. People are buying it, so why the hell wouldn't they raise the prices if it's working?

phobzy85
04-21-2009, 09:31 AM
So you are protecting MS for raising prices. Strange!

Really, are you in wonderland Alice? Get back to reality have you seen how much bang we are getting for our buck. Really?

One of the best games on live is Marble Blast Ultra at 400 MSP. Then we have castle crashers which I completed much much quicker than MBU. Which is the better quality game. I would honestly say MBU, much more replayability. Some factors are not being taken into account with these new prices...

T0b3
04-21-2009, 11:37 AM
Hm.. 2100 MSP cards are totally useless now.

Before, it was 800 + 800 + 400 = 2000 MSP
And now it'll be 1200 + ... ?

Sure I am a "crybaby" (If you wish to name me like that). Not every household is rich. There are several things which have gotten more and more expensive; which limits your ability to buy xbox stuff in one month even further. And now they raise the prices. Looks to me like MS is completely ignoring the current state of the economy.

People are buying it, so why the hell wouldn't they raise the prices if it's working?

That's not entirely true. Arcade game sales volumes are always a lot weaker than retail games. Most people don't even own more than 5-7 arcade titles.

kasparsade
04-21-2009, 01:33 PM
This sucks even tho i dont have live:eek:

JokerHFX
04-21-2009, 01:47 PM
I think it's bullshit. I bet DLC is next, and we'll all be paying 1200 for 3 maps.

Thats when I will stop buying DLC.

DudeWithTheFace
04-21-2009, 02:48 PM
Its getting ridiculous I must admit

eviltb
04-21-2009, 03:06 PM
Im with Tussell on this issue. If you dont wanna buy it, then just dont. Those of you who are stuck "back in the day" when games where 400/800 points, ok lets look at those games. Mostly 8/16bit conversions, no original games and their filesizes where below 50MB. Then the PS Castlevania came out which raised the filesize above 50MB, which also pushed the price upto 1200. How many people bought that game? A shitload! Which then paved the way for "bigger" games like UMKIII and SSFIITHDR and original games like The Dishwasher and Braid. If these games where made retail, then you'd be paying 30+ for them. Yea you can get 3 used games for the same price as 1200 points. You know why? Cause their used!! Thats the point of used games, you get em cheaper! And as for more achievements to cover the extra cost? Please! I buy Arcade games because I like them, so yea Ive got the 2 afore-mentioned fighting games, and both Puzzle Quests WITH the expansion. AND I paid the 1600 (ZZZZZOMG 1600 points!!) for the GTA expansion! If you love a game, why not show your appreciation for it? I will for sure be getting MvC2 and KOF '98UM, which are guarenteeeeeeeeed to be 1200 points! People want more from Arcade now than just retro gaming. Consumers want some orginality and the ability to get a decent sized game for a cheaper-than-retail price without having to go to the game shop or wait for Amazon to deliver it. If you want retro, stick to the older games or go to the Nintendo store on your Wii (which I also play and pay out for thinkgs like Mario RPG and MArio Kart 64). Or pick up the Sonic Ultimate Collection, retro goodness and you get 1000GS with it as well.

/rant

DTwirler
04-21-2009, 03:38 PM
I don't buy anything over 800MP, don't have that kind of money to blow. Even spending 800MP makes me cringe.

Gohan Reborn
04-21-2009, 04:20 PM
People need to stop bitching. Everything goes up. Not just video game prices. Of course it sucks. I remember when retails used to cost 50...Now 60 or in some cases 65. Everything goes up, from the food that you eat, to the clothes that you wear. EVERYTHING.

Not only that but as eviltb said...The quality of games have gone up since when games used to be 400 MS points. Just deal with it. And no, I'm not from a rich household, but I work for my money. I am willing to work 1 hour 1/2 to make enough money to buy an arcade game that'll be at least a few hours of fun. Most of these games offer at least a day's worth (4-6 hours) of gaming if not more.

daninthemix
04-21-2009, 04:30 PM
I'm more concerned with GS inflation than MSP inflation (as mentioned in my sig). 1200 is the new 1000.

SOW Camoflauge
04-21-2009, 05:42 PM
you should put another poll in there, make the games cheaper, and have more points

master_shake_350
04-21-2009, 05:46 PM
If its worth it, then fine I will pay for it. If its not worth it, it will come down eventually.

cheesyp00fs
04-21-2009, 05:48 PM
I say pull it back to 800msp, im too god damn cheap to cough out 1200msp

xBootstrapp
04-21-2009, 06:28 PM
Well I dont buy much stuff off the market place anyways, but it does seem a little steep.
I guess everyone has their own right to nag and what not about things like this, about like gas. But if you think its too expensive just dont buy it. Easy as that, itll go down sometime.

Tsaako
04-21-2009, 11:57 PM
I think it's bullshit. I bet DLC is next, and we'll all be paying 1200 for 3 maps.

Take a look at stranglehold, few multiplayer maps for a game that nobody plays much nowadays and for what? an extra 250 points?

T0b3
04-21-2009, 11:58 PM
DLC is not an issue to me. I just can't see why old games, simply loaded up with a simple emulator, cost 800 MSP..

Even "The Maw", which was a long and expensive production, didn't cost more than 800 points.

Tsaako
04-22-2009, 12:04 AM
At the end of the day its all about price and demand...

Most people who download arcade will always want to get their money's worth.

Everytime a new arcade title is released, were all expecting it to be good..(or hoping too)

This is costing the developer's money, and they need money back and hope to make profit.

Sooner or later everything will fall, with things going up, more people will not even think about downloading it at such a high price.. They've even started deal of the week..i think its because there worried about it themselves and want to make some more profit by doing so.

I hate the fact its going up, but it will come down eventually, the number of downloads will greatly decrease by 2010 imo..

Pixo
04-22-2009, 12:20 AM
I don't mind paying 1200mps as long as the game is worth it. It would be nice if they brought down though. I paid 1200 for Banjo-Kazooie, Banjo Tooie and Castle Crashers. Those games were worth the points.

I really hope they don't raise the price of DLC maps or some other game addons.

PerpetualHeaven
04-22-2009, 12:30 AM
See, the reason they're making it so much is because most actually pay it and bitch afterwards. For example, I paid 1200 for Banjo & Kazooie, but it isn't worth that much. No one can tell me that. It's too old! Just because it was transferred onto XBLA, it's worth 1200? 800 at most. An old game like that isn't worth the same as something like Braid, which was made by a single person and is an original concept to some extent. Will I buy Banjo & Tooie? Probably not. I ran through B&K in 12 hours. I'm spending 100 points an hour! Woo! Not.

Gohan Reborn
04-22-2009, 12:37 PM
Noone is telling you to speed run thru a game...

and spending 100 pts ($1.25) per hour on a game isn't that bad... Not many games can provide those many hours on that price.

Deadly Moves
04-22-2009, 12:54 PM
I dont mind paying 1200msp if its a good original game.. Not just a poor remake.
Castle Crashers was well worth 1200 and i would have paid 1200 for Dishwasher, but fortunatly it was 800msp.

I think it depends on the type of game.. 800msp for Connect 4?! i dont think so! at 400 i'd think about it

Gohan Reborn
04-22-2009, 01:43 PM
Yeah, those games from Family Night are definitly overpriced. I want scrabble and battleship...but definitly not paying 800 pts.

I want Braid too, and will probably buy it soon, I missed out on the Deal of the week. I just won't bitch if a game is too expensive. If I feel the game is too expensive for what it's worth, then it just won't get bought. Simple. As for DLC, I pretty much buy whatever seems good. If I don't want maps. Don't buy 'em. Noone's shoving a gun down your throat. You know if you want the game that badly you'll pay whatever the cost.

1600 for Marvel vs. Capcom 2. W00t. Shit, I'll even pay 2000 for that.

True I Skill
04-22-2009, 01:50 PM
Well as long as the games are as good as dishwasher then im cool with that, But knowing them they are going to bring out a load of shit games priced at 1200 They are getting greedy. But is it microsoft or the game company that make the arcade game who Choose its price?
I hardly ever buy microsoft points, It was arround 2-3 Months i went without buying any with all the games and dlc being released then i got a 4200 pack, They should either lower the Price of microsoft points, Or lower the ammount of microsoft points arcade games cost. In my opinion 20% Of arcade games on the market place now are the only good ones. The rest are Just re-makes of somthing, Or some crap idea a 4 Year old fort up, Like flocking sheep together with a space ship. And i fort sony was bad with a 500pound console. -.-

kaleido42
04-22-2009, 02:03 PM
you have to realize to though that usually the pricey games are the better ones
ex: braid, portal, castle crashers, etc.
And yes I agree with the point made that if they are going to sell them why wouldnt they up the price and try to make more money on them

plumbpist
04-22-2009, 04:04 PM
The first 2 years of 360 Live will be looked at as the Golden Age soon, 1200+ MS points for a couple hours worth of DLC is a joke!

This is EXACTLY the way I feel, well said Knuckl3s! The pricing on Live is getting ridiculous.

vI-Youneek-Iv
04-22-2009, 04:08 PM
It probably is going to be because most of the newer XLA games are getting better in graphics and just plain better. But they probably will have the deal of the week on the 1200 point Arcade games like they did with Braid.

NoodleII
04-22-2009, 07:07 PM
I have been struggling with this pricing myself and trying to figure out what my own strategy should be with regards to things I want from the Arcade. I totally agree with 1200 being steep for a lot of things and that it sucks prices go up. That said, what can I do about it? It is what it is, so it comes down to my own decision of do I value the money over what I am getting for the value? Even when something I want is 800 points I still stuggle with pruchase sometimes, so the way I look at it is: What else could I get for the same amount of money entertainment-wise and would I rather have that instead. These days, an equal comparison could be made for a trip to the movies: $10 for a movie where the only thing I walk away with is the experience after 2 hours, OR $10 for a game that sure, I may beat in a few hours or so, but will sit on my hard drive and I can come back to anytime I want and have more fun with it. Usually I'd rather have the game b/c the whole family can enjoy it and the price at that point is very reasonable. Now at 1200 points it becomes more of an issue to decide. So then even if I might want the game/content, do I feel that price point is correct for my perception of value? If not, then I don't buy and wait for it to come down or I just don't get it. There are older games that I have held off buying forever that I don't think are even worth the 800 points. I jumped all over a few purchases with the recent sales they have had every week, and felt justified in waiting the system out. But, for the rest I'll keep on waiting because it is the only thing in my control about this.