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cotteneyekeith
02-17-2006, 07:36 PM
JUST GOT ONTO IT THAT THE FANS ON THE XBOX ARE PLACES @ THE FOOT OF THE CONSOLE SO IF U HAVE IT STOOD UP INSTEAD OF LAYING DOWN THE FANS CANT BRING IN AIR TO COOL THE SYSTEM DOWN HENC MINE GETTING OVER HEATED I HAVE HAD IT ON ALL DAY TRYING TO CATCH UP ON RIDGE RACE AFTER ME DELETING MY MEMORY UNTI IN A MOOD AND ITS JUST AS COLD AS WEN I PUT IT ON ,,,SO TRY TO NOT STAND UP YOUR XBOX AS THIS IS MAKIING THE SYSTEM HEAT UP

WHY O WHY DID THEY BUT THE FANS THERE WE ALL KNOW THAT IT LOOKS ALOT SLIMER STOOD UP THAN LAYING DOWN O WELL TIME TO PLAY FULLAUTO SO FAR I THINK ITS CRAZY TAXI WITH GUNS

Nukeshell
02-17-2006, 09:16 PM
This has been discussed on a lot of sites and forums. People already knew about it but thanks anyway.

Minty
02-17-2006, 09:19 PM
and make ya sig smaller, its like half a page

Nukeshell
02-17-2006, 10:22 PM
Example:

I want a Nintendo Revolution (http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f181/cotteneye/media1.jpg)

I want a Nintendo Revolution (http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f181/cotteneye/media1.jpg)

Weapon 117
02-17-2006, 10:28 PM
I've heard from many different sources that s it better to have your console standing up and I've also heard from many sources thats its better to have your console laying on it side. So whcih is better???????????????

Nukeshell
02-17-2006, 10:41 PM
Laying down, because the disc doens't fit perfect in the disc driver it will start to move if it stands up so your disc get scratched. Plus the fans are the side that stands on the ground of you stand it up.

ianc125
02-18-2006, 02:02 AM
yes laying down is muh better because mine kept freezing wicked bad when I had it upright

g4m3r7ag
02-18-2006, 03:54 AM
mines standing up no problems yet

Weapon 117
02-18-2006, 04:00 AM
Well, since I got my 360 I have always had it upright and no problems at all, just like g4m3r7ag. Does overheating have to do anything will the environment or room temperature because my 360 is in my basement which is always cold.

Eilujin
02-18-2006, 05:29 AM
On the official website for the xbox360. It says that it is better to have it vertical. They also say that laying it horizontal may lead to scratches. They also give other reasons, Go check it out for yourselves. I would post a link but I am at work atm and that site is blocked from here.

I know I layed mine horizontal and it ended up scratching my PGR3 disc, luckily I was able to return it for another. I think with the new models that are being released they may have resolved any problems with either way, so in the end it doesnt really matter.

Nukeshell
02-18-2006, 11:27 AM
I thought the disc got scratched when standing vertical ???

@Weapon: The Xbox360 needs some space to blow his air away. So don't stand it next to a wall.

RoughOutline
02-18-2006, 11:41 AM
I've got my 360 standing up vertical and it's been fine. My discs are fine and my console has only crashed on the odd occasion. I heard that the discs scratch when you move the console when it's on with a disc inside. But who would do that in the first place anyway?

Nukeshell
02-18-2006, 11:47 AM
Me, lol. When I have a Lanparty I always forget to get my disc out ::)

TheIcemanCometh
02-19-2006, 12:36 AM
mines standing up no problems yet

Same here - been that way since Day One.

scoobydiesel
02-19-2006, 01:58 AM
mine lays down, no problems besides the face plate looks a little off(cod2)

KMB 316
02-19-2006, 03:20 AM
i switch mine every once in a while, just to keep me guessing.

Weapon 117
02-19-2006, 04:00 AM
Well whether you 360 scratches discs standing up vertically or horizontally, or just heats up it might have something to do with environment or it could be a default. Microsoft must of tested this problem while making the 360.

scoobydiesel
02-19-2006, 05:40 AM
yeah my system is sitting out so it can breath plus it is near a window so it has more coldness near it

ianc125
02-19-2006, 06:05 AM
Mine is now freezing up when it is laying down to. I have done some research and have figured out that mine freezes up only when using games. live arcade works fine but everytime i play a game disk it freezes in like 3 mins. I called microsoft they said it was a problem with the dvd drive. so theyre sending me a box to send it in to them so it can be repaired/ replaced. Should get the box on tues I'll keep you guys updated.
Im also not sending in my Harddrvie cause i know its not that and I dont want to risk loseing all of my saves. as it is i lost most of my NFS most wanted save(blacklist 12 - 4) because i didnt save the game before it froze.

graf1k
02-19-2006, 06:23 AM
I had that same problem with my second 360. The third one has been going like a champ for about 3 weeks now. Standing up no less.

scoobydiesel
02-19-2006, 10:25 AM
3rd? youv already broken 2? i have only broken one system my whole life...my first ps2 after 3 years....

Minty
02-19-2006, 11:07 AM
mines be horizontal the whole time and never had any problems with it but the diisk tray seems the wrong size for it to be vertical- theres a coupleof mm movement that wcould cause scratching imo

Nukeshell
02-19-2006, 12:11 PM
@Minty: exactly, that's why the discs get scratched while standing up.

Minty
02-19-2006, 12:12 PM
yeah, but some people have said that the disks are being scratched horizontally....

Nukeshell
02-19-2006, 12:12 PM
Yea, but I don't get that because the disc is just laying down on the driver. ???

Minty
02-19-2006, 12:17 PM
yeah, thats what i was having problesm etting. never had any scratches from CDs, DVDs or games inserted horizontally into a draw uit....

Nukeshell
02-19-2006, 12:23 PM
I think the disc will move from left-right-left-right when it's standing up. What causes scratches.

RoughOutline
02-19-2006, 04:26 PM
Well whether you 360 scratches discs standing up vertically or horizontally, or just heats up it might have something to do with environment or it could be a default. Microsoft must of tested this problem while making the 360.


I've got my 360 standing beside my TV. It can fit inside, but I don't think the cable could. But I'm glad it's not in as it would definitely overheat inside the unit.

Nukeshell
02-19-2006, 04:28 PM
It will because it can't breath enough.

Webb
02-19-2006, 04:29 PM
I've got mine stood on its end and I thought the fans were at the back ???

Nukeshell
02-19-2006, 04:31 PM
Back and the left site, so if you stand it up it will blow towards the ground.

RoughOutline
02-19-2006, 04:34 PM
Back and the left site, so if you stand it up it will blow towards the ground.


That seems a bit stupid. If MS knew it was going to be stood vertically, then why were fans placed on the bottom? ???

Nukeshell
02-19-2006, 04:36 PM
Don't ask me, Im not a MS worker

ianc125
02-20-2006, 12:54 AM
My xbox is now showing the 3 red lights.

Im going to have to ask MS for some compensation cause im paying for live and gamefly and they wont get any use for a week.
And it better be back before my febuary break or someones going to get slapped!!! >:(

g4m3r7ag
02-20-2006, 12:56 AM
yes why dont you go slap the big man himself, Mr. G

ianc125
02-20-2006, 01:51 AM
Im going to take a picture of what it looks loike when it freezes I'll post it in just a sec

KMB 316
02-20-2006, 01:56 AM
this is such a dumb post its not a tip its just plain common sence.

ianc125
02-20-2006, 02:01 AM
whats just plain common sence?

KMB 316
02-20-2006, 02:04 AM
to keep your 360 well ventalated.

ianc125
02-20-2006, 02:05 AM
I know that but mines frozen because of a hardware problem not ventilation

ianc125
02-20-2006, 02:27 AM
Heres a picture of what mine looks like every time it freezes

these weired checkerboard things appear everytime
sometimes I cant even get past the intro video
Im sending it inĀ  on tues and will let you guys know how it goes

g4m3r7ag
02-20-2006, 02:53 AM
wow thats weird

scoobydiesel
02-20-2006, 04:55 AM
thats some scary stuff dude....hope you fix it or something

ianc125
02-20-2006, 09:29 PM
i should get the box to send it in tommorrow since theres no mail today cause of presidents day

but we still got stuck with school :)

CrakkedOut56
02-21-2006, 02:00 AM
JUST GOT ONTO IT THAT THE FANS ON THE XBOX ARE PLACES @ THE FOOT OF THE CONSOLE

didnt read all the posts so forgive me if already said but the fans are only on the back of the console....take a look

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/4845/nocovjpg6ax.th.gif (http://img122.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nocovjpg6ax.gif) http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/8103/thermremovedjpg1yu.th.gif (http://img119.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thermremovedjpg1yu.gif)

but i do agree with having the 360 horizontal that way more air can flow thru it and idk its just me but i never liked the idea of playing a cd/dvd vertically

JunK!e
02-21-2006, 02:19 AM
On the official website for the xbox360. It says that it is better to have it vertical. They also say that laying it horizontal may lead to scratches. They also give other reasons, Go check it out for yourselves. I would post a link but I am at work atm and that site is blocked from here.

I know I layed mine horizontal and it ended up scratching my PGR3 disc, luckily I was able to return it for another. I think with the new models that are being released they may have resolved any problems with either way, so in the end it doesnt really matter.


They only say that because they want you to buy there godam vertical stand...

CrakkedOut56
02-21-2006, 02:22 AM
They only say that because they want you to buy there godam vertical stand...

lol...how having it horizontal may lead to me scratches is beyond me

ianc125
02-21-2006, 02:41 AM
I know its worked fine in pcs for years ???

ianc125
02-22-2006, 12:21 AM
Here are some pics of the box microsoft sent to return the broken console in if anyone is interested

g4m3r7ag
02-22-2006, 12:22 AM
i'd leave a blank cd in the drive with M$ SUCKS written on it in black sharpie

ianc125
02-22-2006, 12:23 AM
That would be funny

KMB 316
02-22-2006, 12:24 AM
JUST GOT ONTO IT THAT THE FANS ON THE XBOX ARE PLACES @ THE FOOT OF THE CONSOLE

didnt read all the posts so forgive me if already said but the fans are only on the back of the console....take a look

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/4845/nocovjpg6ax.th.gif (http://img122.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nocovjpg6ax.gif) http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/8103/thermremovedjpg1yu.th.gif (http://img119.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thermremovedjpg1yu.gif)

but i do agree with having the 360 horizontal that way more air can flow thru it and idk its just me but i never liked the idea of playing a cd/dvd vertically


yeah i was going to post this but i dindt want to post it since the guy wrote in all caps and i dindt want to see more caps. ;)

Eilujin
02-22-2006, 03:59 AM
They only say that because they want you to buy there godam vertical stand...


There is a M$ vertical stand you can buy? Hmm didnt know that.. are you sure?

bevan3423
02-22-2006, 04:17 AM
i Dont think that xbox over heating has anything to do with standing up or laying down. I think some 360 are just faulty. I have over 100 hours and it is vertical and it has never over heated. just a thought that it has nothing to do with which way it is standing buy with the 360 itself.

Nukeshell
02-22-2006, 11:19 AM
It will give a bad name to M$ whatever the reason is.

g4m3r7ag
02-22-2006, 08:15 PM
They only say that because they want you to buy there godam vertical stand...


There is a M$ vertical stand you can buy? Hmm didnt know that.. are you sure?


theres either 2 intec ones or 1 intec and 1 mad catz, im not sure who makes the fan stand, and then one that holds 5 games and 2 MU is made by intec

ianc125
02-23-2006, 02:40 AM
yes I have to agree some xboxs are faulty and just completely lock up

Mine just got to the texas repair center today and i should /better have it by sat

Eilujin
02-23-2006, 03:55 AM
They only say that because they want you to buy there godam vertical stand...

There is a M$ vertical stand you can buy? Hmm didnt know that.. are you sure?

theres either 2 intec ones or 1 intec and 1 mad catz, im not sure who makes the fan stand, and then one that holds 5 games and 2 MU is made by intec

So to Junk!e, If M$ does not sell a vertical stand, why do they say that the Xbox360 should be vertical on their website? It says on their website, for best results and to prevent scratching the machine should be standing vertical. Something like that.

Can anyone goto the site and get that quoted for me , im blocked from work :(

ianc125
02-23-2006, 04:03 AM
the system was made to sit vertical or horizontal without a stand

ianc125
02-27-2006, 02:26 AM
my new or fixed xbox is here they just wont give it to me till monday which is a bitch because it got here yesterday at 6AM

if theres a HD in there ill let you know minty if you still need one

ianc125
02-27-2006, 02:21 PM
i got my xbox back today and so far it works fine they didnt give me a new one they repaired my old one

they also didnt give me anything to make up for my troubles :(

g4m3r7ag
02-27-2006, 05:22 PM
should call and complain they would give you somethin

ianc125
02-27-2006, 06:08 PM
im thinking of doing that because thats a week and a half of live and gamefly that i wasnt able to use

graf1k
02-27-2006, 06:52 PM
should call and complain they would give you somethin


I've tried that. I also tried telling them that seeing as it's not my fault the machine blew a gasket, I shouldn't have to give up my saves or pay for a memory card myself (i.e. they should give me a free one). They didn't go for either. I think they did end up adding a year to my extended warranty though. I should check on that...

g4m3r7ag
02-28-2006, 12:13 AM
if you call and bitch and scream enough i would assume that theres a 90% chance you'll get something, but then again all their phone support employees are probably illeagal immigrants that cant speak a lick of english so you might not get anything

graf1k
02-28-2006, 04:33 PM
Wow, what happened to no racist comments?

Anyway all the people I've talked to with XBox support spoke perfect English.

ianc125
02-28-2006, 04:57 PM
most of them did when i called

Webb
02-28-2006, 05:24 PM
How is illegal immigrants racist??? ::)

graf1k
02-28-2006, 09:44 PM
How many cacasians do you know in America that can't speak English? Please, it was obviously a swipe at Hispanics and/or Indians. At best it was a xenophobic comment.

g4m3r7ag
02-28-2006, 09:58 PM
sorry just remembered sitting on the phone trying to understand the person at aol's phone support for an hour

porker con
03-01-2006, 10:10 PM
no problems with mine

ianc125
03-02-2006, 03:28 AM
heres an update for you guys my replacement xbox is now bugging out no freezes or red lights YET but theres some weired squigly lines going across the screen

this time i called and bitched to a supervisor and im going to get a brand new one in even less time like 4 - 5 days

g4m3r7ag
03-02-2006, 03:29 AM
thats cool, i wouldnt send it (the screwd up one thats been "fixed" a couple of times) if they ask you too though

ianc125
03-03-2006, 03:20 AM
why not ?

Hardware
03-03-2006, 01:25 PM
heres an update for you guys my replacement xbox is now bugging out no freezes or red lights YET but theres some weired squigly lines going across the screen

this time i called and bitched to a supervisor and im going to get a brand new one in even less time like 4 - 5 days




Ian I'll back off a little bit on the Rival Challenge as I didn't realize you're having system problems. Good luck with that 360. Also I am surprised that noone mentioned that most of the scratches happen from moving the system from a vertical stance to horizontal while you are playing a game.

ianc125
03-05-2006, 05:21 PM
Thank you hardware I'm glad you noticed I was at 5050 gamerpoints when i got my 360 back and what i got between them was only in like 3 days i should have it back on weds or thurs

g4m3r7ag
03-05-2006, 05:35 PM
what happened to hardware, he has like no posts, and no profile link and stuff, sorry to hear your xbox is screwin up again ian

k_dog
03-05-2006, 05:36 PM
what happened to hardware, he has like no posts, and no profile link and stuff, sorry to hear your xbox is screwin up again ian

I was wondering that too. I couldnt see anything so I assumed it was my brouser.

-Brian

ianc125
03-05-2006, 11:14 PM
I cant see his stuff to so its something wrong with his account?

cotteneyekeith
03-06-2006, 11:55 AM
This has been discussed on a lot of sites and forums. People already knew about it but thanks anyway.

well i didnt see a post about it on this forum so i though id let ppl now incase they didnt get on to it ,plus i havent read about it b4 as im new to xbox360 so it might help some ppl so get back in ye corner