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KFZ Scrubs
07-29-2009, 12:32 PM
http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2009/07/28/borderlands-has-3166880-different-weapons/

http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/borderlands_smg.jpg
"Borderlands" had its first hands-on debut in New York City a couple of weeks ago, but I was on-hand to check out the game in the wilds of Brooklyn.

Full impressions coming in a bit, but I wanted to call attention to something I noticed during the demo. Randy Pitchford, the president and founder of Gearbox, was walking us through the single-player campaign when he was hit by a need to show off a particularly cool gun. Jumping into a debug menu screen, he was able to select a few parameters to find just the sorta gun he was looking for. In this case it was a rocket launcher with the description, "Holy sh*t, it shoots rockets!"


The debug menu was fascinating, though, as it's basically a giant database of all the possible combinations of guns you can have, from sniper rifles with shock damage and a blue scope to uzis with flame effects and a red barrel. For each category the total number of possible guns was listed and, at the top, was the total number of guns that could be created with all the possible combinations.

That number was 3,166,880.

Keep in mind the game is still pre-release, and that number could go even higher. So yeah, you won't be finding all the guns in the game, unless you figure out a way to cheat. Or you literally spend 6.025 years playing "Borderlands," which is how long you would need to play if you were finding a new gun every minute.
I'm already excited about this game after learning that it'd be a shooter/rpg. I also love the art style and such... looks like it'll be a fun game.. can't wait till release time.
*edit
The thread title is a bit misleading I'm afraid. The game does not have 3 million types of weapons. It has over 3 million different weapon combos.
Example:
Pistol
Pistol w/ different scope
Pistol w/ different types of plating
Pistol w/ different types of ammo

Just to be clear, it'll be weapon combos, not different types of weapons.

AToMiiK
07-29-2009, 07:51 PM
I love being able to customize weapons to my preference and this had me sold at 500,000 weapons but 3,166,880!?!? That's insane! =D will be buying this me thinks.

oDrPepper
07-29-2009, 07:54 PM
I'm gonna' be ridiculously poor this year. :(

stophj
07-29-2009, 07:55 PM
Interesting gimick, though i assume you will only need to use 3 weapons throughout the game...

KFZ Scrubs
08-01-2009, 03:10 AM
I want to see this so called 3 million array of weapons. Hopefully they have a wide variety type and not 100,000 ak47's with different colors in different places.

Coadster1
08-01-2009, 04:15 AM
That's pretty insane, never heard if anything like this before, ever.

Squirrel257
08-01-2009, 05:19 AM
I've been following this game for years. Nice to see it finally getting a release!

Coadster1
08-01-2009, 05:25 AM
Really, I've never heard of it untill last week or so.

KFZ Scrubs
08-01-2009, 05:39 AM
Really, I've never heard of it untill last week or so.
lol, really?
The choice of more than 1 million guns has been the main thing about the game i've been hearing about them since it's first trailer. I like how it's cel shade now, makes the game look chill. First trailer looked so freaking serious when i saw it, not to say it was a bad thing though.

Jagged 88
08-01-2009, 05:57 AM
It going to be cool to customize your own guns and stuff so I'm defiantly going to pick this up.

Pirate
08-01-2009, 05:58 AM
The thread title is a bit misleading I'm afraid. The game does not have 3 million types of weapons. It has over 3 million different weapon combos.
Example:
Pistol
Pistol w/ different scope
Pistol w/ different types of plating
Pistol w/ different types of ammo

Still, 3 million is a pretty impressive number.

Don't like the new graphics for this game, but I guess it comes down to gameplay in the end so this game is on my list.....

KFZ Scrubs
08-01-2009, 06:05 AM
ohhh, good point out. I should note that it's weapon combonations and not weapons. Besides, i don't even think that having three million different type of unique weapons would be possible.
I'm loving the shooter/rpg by the way

Io Haze oI
08-07-2009, 04:33 PM
According to this interview LINK: http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=220328

The actually number of weapons with all different permutations is 17,750,000.

KNIGHTOFSERA
08-07-2009, 04:38 PM
If its just different scopes, colors and whatnot, its not nearly as impressive...this game still looks interesting

Exane22
08-07-2009, 04:47 PM
I don't really care for the new art style, imo they shot themselves in the foot on that but its still cool to see them implementing that weapon algorithm. I will probably pass on this one, at least for a while anyways.

ZundayXx
08-08-2009, 07:54 PM
''Hey dude i have the same gun as you''

I'd be laughing my ass off for days...

DeadAtTheScene
08-12-2009, 08:59 AM
I'm gonna' be ridiculously poor this year. :(

me too bro, me too. haha

Plast1cSp00n
08-15-2009, 08:08 AM
i swear this, dragon age, and mw2 are going to make me poor until christmas..........

and to all those complaining about variations of weapons
sorry, but i think that you shouldn't be making any comments about it. No matter how you look at it, you are still going to have thousands, possibly 10's of thousands of different weapons, which will all be legitimately different (sniper to smg to shotty etc) plus, what are the chances of you finding a weapon that you already have a similar version of? cmon guys, stop nit picking, this is going to be great :)

personally, this game had me sold just when i heard about the weapons, now even more so with cell-shading.

mejimmeh45
08-25-2009, 10:48 AM
id hate to be the person to make 3,166,880 weapons.

xhunterrrr
08-25-2009, 04:43 PM
id hate to be the person to make 3,166,880 weapons.

Have you read NOTHING about this game?! A person didn't make every gun. They developed manufacturing software, basically, to take different parts of guns, different skins, etc. and randomly assemble these. It is actually quite impressive and amazingly cool.

DevilDawg97
08-25-2009, 11:16 PM
Interesting, I will add this game to my must have list.

neok182
08-25-2009, 11:29 PM
the last few interviews i read pegged the total number of possible weapons at 17 million

KFZ Scrubs
08-29-2009, 01:53 AM
the last few interviews i read pegged the total number of possible weapons at 17 million
It isn't necessarily weapons.... rather weapon types or combonations. Like a shotgun with a grenade launcher or a sniper scope or some crap like that. That's seriously still a lot though
Anything over a million is crazy.

mejimmeh45
08-29-2009, 03:01 AM
Have you read NOTHING about this game?! A person didn't make every gun. They developed manufacturing software, basically, to take different parts of guns, different skins, etc. and randomly assemble these. It is actually quite impressive and amazingly cool.
Soz i did'nt relly read much i just saw the number of weapons.

neok182
08-29-2009, 04:58 PM
It isn't necessarily weapons.... rather weapon types or combonations. Like a shotgun with a grenade launcher or a sniper scope or some crap like that. That's seriously still a lot though
Anything over a million is crazy.

oh yeah i know. but still, 17 million combination's is ridiculous.

Mrs Cliffton
08-30-2009, 02:03 AM
so who is going to try and get them all? :P

IceBlox
08-30-2009, 05:07 AM
Holy......crap.....way too many weapons :eek:

ScarecrowXavier
08-30-2009, 07:54 AM
3,166,880 weapons huh?

Does anyone else remember Fallout 3's "Dozens" of endings? It turned out to be the worst part of the game.

neok182
08-30-2009, 03:04 PM
thats cause fallouts ending just sucked. And a few million of these guns will probably be pretty bad, but you'll come across some awesome ones.

And in the latest PC gamer it was said that any single player will only find 500,000-600,000 in his game so if you really wanted all 3 million or 17 million you'll have to play and trade for the rest of your life lol.

KFZ Scrubs
08-31-2009, 01:43 AM
oh yeah i know. but still, 17 million combination's is ridiculous.
It is fucking ridiculous!
I mean, 1 million is amazing but 17 million is bat shit crazy.
We'll see in October though.... this shit will be fucking crazy!

Psymox
08-31-2009, 09:14 AM
It going to be cool to customize your own guns and stuff so I'm defiantly going to pick this up.

Unfortunately there is very limited customization options for your gun. Your going to have to keep on looking for your dream gun i'm afraid instead of creating it yourself.

Spectre L37
08-31-2009, 09:16 AM
I don't even see how it's possible.

v SnOwMaN v
08-31-2009, 10:22 AM
This game is going to be crazy. I'm going to try and make the most craziest sniper and pistol combo.

KFZ Scrubs
08-31-2009, 01:45 PM
I don't even see how it's possible.
Well, they could make up weird and unique guns for the game and i'm thinking that one gun alone could have thousands of combinations by itself. If you could combine weapons... then that's probably how they got it in the millions.

neok182
08-31-2009, 02:00 PM
actually the number is very easy. think of it:
Pistol, Shotgun, Assault, Sniper, Rocket Launcher, Super Weapon + the alien ones.

Now look at the ammo tyles
Regular, Explosive, Electric, Fire, Corrosive, and theres probably more.

Then look at the upgrades/customizations
Scopes, Colors, Extended Ammo, Grenade launcher, shotgun ammo in a pistol, shotgun ammo in an assault rifle.

When you look at all of those different things and the fact that every gun can use everything in the game, you can easily get up to a few million.

And you WILL be able to customize your gun with scopes and stuff like that once you buy from shops. And i think the guns have to be customized in the shops, not in the field.

CobraKilla
09-01-2009, 02:13 AM
theres a lil over 500,000 where ever you got the from is mistaken

neok182
09-01-2009, 05:00 AM
The actual number has never been confirmed. Originally they said 500,000. Then G4 spotted in the code or something like that 3,166,880 when gearbox was showing them the randomizer script.

And then in the last issue of PC gamer they said that there are 17 million possible combinations. but after that they said that any person would probably only see 500,000 to 600,000 per game.

TrUe BoSs03
09-02-2009, 05:40 PM
I want to see this so called 3 million array of weapons. Hopefully they have a wide variety type and not 100,000 ak47's with different colors in different places. We already know how that ends.

Pyroman31
09-02-2009, 11:16 PM
Jesus man that's insanity. Good to hear it's actually just weapon combos.