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BanditBanks
03-22-2010, 06:02 PM
To unlock [The Names Dark....Perfect Dark] you must finish each level in Perfect Agent mode with the Auto-aim setting turned OFF.

As 'simple' as that.
Good luck with the Carrington Institute as it gave me the most trouble, shielded cheating enemies with the most over powered weapon in the game! Arrgg.

Massive thanks to Firelyte Stone to finally figuring out exactly how it is unlocked!

Nusentinsaino
03-22-2010, 06:03 PM
Only time will tell...

BanditBanks
03-22-2010, 06:19 PM
It seems that most of the people that have this crown have told everyone else complete lies.

One guy told me to wait until he did all the challenges, so I did.
He then told me "finish all missions really fast on all diffs".
I replied with "It cant be because all my times are faster than yours?".
No reply from him.

Firelyte Stone
03-22-2010, 06:26 PM
No surprise there, since Rosswand told me that he's "bound by an NDA" to not reveal how he got the crown XD I wouldn't believe what anyone says anymore. Time to stick to this thread ;)

BanditBanks
03-22-2010, 06:31 PM
No surprise there, since Rosswand told me that he's "bound by an NDA" to not reveal how he got the crown XD I wouldn't believe what anyone says anymore. Time to stick to this thread ;)

Exactly, I wasn't gonna name names, but since he has told others the same thing. I really think he works for the company or something.

So if anyone has ideas or failed attempts I can post it here, it will save people stressing out on something that won't count towards this crown.
I.E. Finishing every level with 1000% Perfect Dark settings.
If someone did that and realised that's not how to get the crown, I don't think I could feel bad enough for them lol.

Firelyte Stone
03-22-2010, 06:40 PM
I went through the whole game on perfect dark with the settings on 10% XD no luck there. I was going to try going through with just 100%, but I'm playing really bad atm, so perhaps later.

Another idea I have is beating a level with 100% accuracy, only headshots, and having 100% health (which dulls The Duel out). That pretty much defines 'perfect' if you ask me hehe.

BanditBanks
03-22-2010, 06:46 PM
I went through the whole game on perfect dark with the settings on 10% XD no luck there. I was going to try going through with just 100%, but I'm playing really bad atm, so perhaps later.

Another idea I have is beating a level with 100% accuracy, only headshots, and having 100% health (which dulls The Duel out). That pretty much defines 'perfect' if you ask me hehe.

Shad0wlancer told me he got it by speed running the first level, he didn't kill many people but he didn't have 100% accuracy.

I almost got only headshots on that level I did with 1000% settings but one of the enemies rolled away and I shot another guy in the crotch.
Technically it was a 'head' shot, but not the kind we are looking for hahah.

Firelyte Stone
03-22-2010, 06:51 PM
Shad0wlancer told me he got it by speed running the first level, he didn't kill many people but he didn't have 100% accuracy.

I almost got only headshots on that level I did with 1000% settings but one of the enemies rolled away and I shot another guy in the crotch.
Technically it was a 'head' shot, but not the kind we are looking for hahah.

lol, a devastating blow nevertheless!

I suppose I'll try speed running the first level 21409819 times and see if I get lucky

Ratpelt
03-22-2010, 06:56 PM
Exactly, I wasn't gonna name names, but since he has told others the same thing. I really think he works for the company or something.

So if anyone has ideas or failed attempts I can post it here, it will save people stressing out on something that won't count towards this crown.
I.E. Finishing every level with 1000% Perfect Dark settings.
If someone did that and realised that's not how to get the crown, I don't think I could feel bad enough for them lol.

Having worked for a variety of videogame companies over the past decade or so I can tell you that the very idea of this guy signing an NDA not to reveal the crown criteria is ridiculous. More likely he just plain doesn't know how he got it, or isn't willing to share the information and for whatever reason wants people to think he works for them. Sounds like a sad case lucker tbh.

bob101910
03-22-2010, 07:13 PM
I have a feeling the people that have it might not know how they got it.

Firelyte Stone
03-22-2010, 07:30 PM
I have a feeling the people that have it might not know how they got it.

Perhaps, but it would help a lot if we were able to suck out any information at all about what they were doing before they realized they had the crown ...

We have no confirmed facts at all on how to get it, besides that it may be rewarded from doing something on perfect agent or perfect dark, so we're all nearly running blind, so to speak.

//edit: I just beat a level on perfect dark with the settings on 300%. it's a no go

Incompl33t
03-22-2010, 09:56 PM
I asked someone earlier with the crown and he told me he got it while doing "the last level" on Perfect. When asking for details, he said he killed almost everything and it was an everyday ordinary playthrough. It must be a requirement in Perfect Agent.

Ow Nitram
03-22-2010, 09:57 PM
Here my "failed" attempts:

-Complete a mission on perfect agent with 7m7s
-Bursting bullets on the wall to write 007
-Complete a mission on perfect agent with only 7 headshots
-Complete a mission on perfect agent in "a perfect way" (100% health, accuracy, kills)
-Failed the same mission 6 times in a row and completed it the 7th time on perfect agent.

Yes, I have quite the imagination...;)

Firelyte Stone
03-22-2010, 10:00 PM
Here my "failed" attempts:

-Complete a mission on perfect agent with 7m7s
-Bursting bullets on the wall to write 007
-Complete a mission on perfect agent with only 7 headshots
-Complete a mission on perfect agent in "a perfect way" (100% health, accuracy, kills)
-Failed the same mission 6 times in a row and completed it the 7th time on perfect agent.

Yes, I have quite the imagination...;)

hehe ... that's pretty creative

---

I'm going to try playing through the whole game on perfect agent without dying / quitting ... let's see how this goes.

Incompl33t
03-22-2010, 10:07 PM
I'm going to try playing through the whole game on perfect agent without dying / quitting ... let's see how this goes.

If this is the case, it's going to be worse than Brass Balls on Bioshock!

I'm starting to believe it's something like kill 1000 enemies on Perfect Agent. Everyone who has it says they got it on different levels, but it was always Perfect Agent. This seems to be the only consistent factor.

Firelyte Stone
03-22-2010, 10:10 PM
If this is the case, it's going to be worse than Brass Balls on Bioshock!

I'm starting to believe it's something like kill 1000 enemies on Perfect Agent. Everyone who has it says they got it on different levels, but it was always Perfect Agent. This seems to be the only consistent factor.

Hmmm .. yeah, and I didn't see your earlier post until after I made mine ...

I asked someone earlier with the crown and he told me he got it while doing "the last level" on Perfect. When asking for details, he said he killed almost everything and it was an everyday ordinary playthrough. It must be a requirement in Perfect Agent.

I'm starting to think it has to deal with either headshots (because skedar are easy to HS), killing every enemy in every level, or like you just mentioned, getting a total kill amount.

I'm changing my agenda: time to kill a ton of skedars! lol

Incompl33t
03-22-2010, 10:23 PM
Hmmm .. yeah, and I didn't see your earlier post until after I made mine ...



I'm starting to think it has to deal with either headshots (because skedar are easy to HS), killing every enemy in every level, or like you just mentioned, getting a total kill amount.

I'm changing my agenda: time to kill a ton of skedars! lol

Well, I'll know if you get it simply by looking at Overall Leaderboards. By the way Firelyte, it may help you to know that you can get stars that counta as % in Counter-Operative too.

Firelyte Stone
03-22-2010, 10:33 PM
Well, I'll know if you get it simply by looking at Overall Leaderboards. By the way Firelyte, it may help you to know that you can get stars that counta as % in Counter-Operative too.

I found that out last night, hehe, that's how I got back to #1, thanks though.

As for the skedars, I'm useing the callisto on rapid fire and I get about 100 headshots by the time I get to the phoenix guns XD so perhaps headshots isn't what the objective is

//edit: I'm going to run through the pelagic II a couple times now, see if total kills is what we're aiming for ;)

Incompl33t
03-22-2010, 10:41 PM
I found that out last night, hehe, that's how I got back to #1, thanks though.

As for the skedars, I'm useing the callisto on rapid fire and I get about 100 headshots by the time I get to the phoenix guns XD so perhaps headshots isn't what the objective is

//edit: I'm going to run through the pelagic II a couple times now, see if total kills is what we're aiming for ;)

Why Pelagic II? Does that have the most enemies? I assumed if you took out every single guard it was G5 Building.
OT: Does anyone else notice every time you fail Perfect Agent it says Saving...?

Firelyte Stone
03-22-2010, 10:43 PM
Why Pelagic II? Does that have the most enemies? I assumed if you took out every single guard it was G5 Building.
OT: Does anyone else notice every time you fail Perfect Agent it says Saving...?

G5 can be slow at some moments, while the pelagic II just has endless hallways of many enemies. If that guy unlocked the achievement while he was doing the last level, then dieing in the mission shouldn't hinder your total kills. Run and gun time, sort of :P

//edit: does it save when you die on agent or special agent?

Incompl33t
03-22-2010, 10:49 PM
(Forgot to post this, but)

I played about 20 Perfect Agent missions today, due to being off sick, including Maian SOS twice, bringing my time down to an impressive 4 minutes (it's the hardest level for me) and an awesome Villa run with 2:20 (just to find #1 with 1:50, SOMEHOW??) but I haven't unlocked it yet. I'm just going to solely play PA until I get it, as it clearly works.

Firelyte Stone
03-22-2010, 10:51 PM
(Forgot to post this, but)

I played about 20 Perfect Agent missions today, due to being off sick, including Maian SOS twice, bringing my time down to an impressive 4 minutes (it's the hardest level for me) and an awesome Villa run with 2:20 (just to find #1 with 1:50, SOMEHOW??) but I haven't unlocked it yet. I'm just going to solely play PA until I get it, as it clearly works.

I have a new theory XD

It could deal with total pistol kills/headshots.

Everyone who has given us info said they got the crown while playing on the first level, the last level, or on WAR!

You use a pistol on all of those levels, the falcon and the phoenix.

+ it relates to the crown name because bond uses pistols! yaaa! lol

Incompl33t
03-22-2010, 10:55 PM
I have a new theory XD

It could deal with total pistol kills/headshots.

Everyone who has given us info said they got the crown while playing on the first level, the last level, or on WAR!

You use a pistol on all of those levels, the falcon and the phoenix.

+ it relates to the crown name because bond uses pistols! yaaa! lol

Maybe, but who uses the Falcon 2 Scope on Skedar Ruins XD.

Maybe you have to complete a mission on Perfect using only your starting weapon. This kind of relates to your idea, and Bond doesn't use other guns.

Firelyte Stone
03-22-2010, 10:59 PM
Maybe, but who uses the Falcon 2 Scope on Skedar Ruins XD.

Maybe you have to complete a mission on Perfect using only your starting weapon. This kind of relates to your idea, and Bond doesn't use other guns.

Well I'm basing this on what other people have said, they got the crown during the mission -- the person you talked to said he got the crown after he had killed nearly everyone skedar in that level, so he must have been towards the end of the level and using the phoenix (I'm assuming he knows how to get them ... he was playing on perfect agent, after all).

king diamond
03-22-2010, 11:02 PM
Complete a level without reloading your pistol? :p

TokeTilYouChoke
03-22-2010, 11:05 PM
just a totally random thought...

finishing a level using only 7 shots?

Incompl33t
03-22-2010, 11:05 PM
Complete a level without reloading your pistol? :p

That's either the craziest idea I've ever heard, or pure genius, although I haven't got the balls to try it out.

Cats Akimbo
03-22-2010, 11:29 PM
Just for the hell of it, was trying to use all the classic gun cheats in perfect agent. No luck.

Also, on the leaderboards, Rosswand has this crown. They are overall ranked 854, 112.82% completion, and 63693 career score, and does not have the other bronze, silver, gold, ninja trophies as of this post. So we can assume it's definitely not career score, and does not have to do with speed runs of every level.

Firelyte Stone
03-22-2010, 11:36 PM
Just for the hell of it, was trying to use all the classic gun cheats in perfect agent. No luck.

Also, on the leaderboards, Rosswand has this crown. They are overall ranked 854, 112.82% completion, and 63693 career score, and does not have the other bronze, silver, gold, ninja trophies as of this post. So we can assume it's definitely not career score, and does not have to do with speed runs of every level.

It doesn't look like he plays on the combat simulator either, and he's told me that he got it by "accident" .. so that would rule out the Perfect Dark difficulty in my opinion.

Everyone reports that they received the crown during playing a level on perfect agent. That leads me to believe that this is what we should be focusing on.

As for the name, playing on perfect agent is what unlocked the difficulty Perfect Dark, which is in the crown's name.

Incompl33t
03-23-2010, 12:00 AM
It doesn't look like he plays on the combat simulator either, and he's told me that he got it by "accident" .. so that would rule out the Perfect Dark difficulty in my opinion.

Everyone reports that they received the crown during playing a level on perfect agent. That leads me to believe that this is what we should be focusing on.

As for the name, playing on perfect agent is what unlocked the difficulty Perfect Dark, which is in the crown's name.

I'd just like to point out at this moment that "Perfect Dark" is also Joanna's code name. If you go to Grimshaw's computer and pull up Jo's profile, it says she earned the nickname "Perfect Dark". Also, at the beginning of Crash Site, Carrington tries to contact her as "Perfect Dark" so it may have nothing to do with the difficulty at all.

BanditBanks
03-23-2010, 12:08 AM
I was told that there's no way to view it's progress, so it definately seems to be something that is unlocked by doing many missions.

Btw Firelyte, I see you are ate 199.50%.
I take it you have done all co-op/counter on all difficulties as well? What's left for you to do?

Firelyte Stone
03-23-2010, 12:09 AM
I was told that there's no way to view it's progress, so it definately seems to be something that is unlocked by doing many missions.

Btw Firelyte, I see you are ate 199.50%.
I take it you have done all co-op/counter on all difficulties as well? What's left for you to do?

Figure out how the hell to unlock this crown! XD

I'm rank #6 on the combat simulator, and technically I haven't completely beaten the challenges. I did all 30 by myself, but i've only done up to 15 with a friend. So I don't have any of the 3 player or 4 player stars, and only half of the 2 player -- but I don't think those count towards the leaderboard %.

Firelyte Stone
03-23-2010, 12:12 AM
I'd just like to point out at this moment that "Perfect Dark" is also Joanna's code name. If you go to Grimshaw's computer and pull up Jo's profile, it says she earned the nickname "Perfect Dark". Also, at the beginning of Crash Site, Carrington tries to contact her as "Perfect Dark" so it may have nothing to do with the difficulty at all.

Very true ;)

Incompl33t
03-23-2010, 12:14 AM
Maybe to unlock the crown, you have to do this, lol.

YouTube- The name is Bond James Bond - Casino Royale


EDIT: AAAAGH! Found another crown guide (http://dalagonash.wordpress.com/2010/03/22/dalas-deadly-tips-perfect-dark-crown-guide/) and guess which crown is the only one missing?

Ryan Boss Stevens
03-23-2010, 12:48 AM
Don't tell me it's the one you guys are talking about! O_O Also, Fyrelyte Stone, you're VERY good if you can do all 30 Challenges on your own fairly. I obviously suck at the game since I can't get past numbers 14, 15, 16 and 17.

Incompl33t
03-23-2010, 12:51 AM
Don't tell me it's the one you guys are talking about! O_O Also, Fyrelyte Stone, you're VERY good if you can do all 30 Challenges on your own fairly. I obviously suck at the game since I can't get past numbers 14, 15, 16 and 17.

The challenges aren't actually as hard as I remember. I think because the game runs a lot smoother I found Challenge 30 a lot easier. All I remember in the N64 days was some impossible challenge that I gave up with on several occasions.

OniRyo
03-23-2010, 12:53 AM
I did those 30 Missions alone when i was around 11 years old ;) can't believe i did them at that time!, i'm now 21 so that's been a while! i've almost completed them again but it seems i lost all my progress, oh well time to redo them then!,

Anyways this is an Award people hardly got so i suppose it must be something really hard ofcourse but still for some reason i think it's unlocked by Playing Multiplayer since the Award is right next to ''Ninja'' in the list

Firelyte Stone
03-23-2010, 12:53 AM
I hate this crown.

Just thought I should let you all know.

Ryan Boss Stevens
03-23-2010, 12:55 AM
I did those 30 Missions alone when i was around 11 years old ;) can't believe i did them at that time!, i'm now 21 so that's been a while! i've almost completed them again but it seems i lost all my progress, oh well time to redo them then!,

Anyways this is an Award people hardly got so i suppose it must be something really hard ofcourse but still for some reason i think it's unlocked by Playing Multiplayer since the Award is right next to ''Ninja'' in the list

I don't even know how the hell I got the Ninja crown O_o

The challenges aren't actually as hard as I remember. I think because the game runs a lot smoother I found Challenge 30 a lot easier. All I remember in the N64 days was some impossible challenge that I gave up with on several occasions.

They've gotten impossible for me now. I can't even do them alone when it's one-on-friggin'-one.

Incompl33t
03-23-2010, 12:57 AM
I hate this crown.

Just thought I should let you all know.

Firelyte, quickly try this for me, I'm away from my Xbox. Play the first level on Perfect, but only kill people with the Falcon 2 Silenced. DON'T USE ANY OTHER WEAPON. Let me know your findings if you try it.

Firelyte Stone
03-23-2010, 01:00 AM
Firelyte, quickly try this for me, I'm away from my Xbox. Play the first level on Perfect, but only kill people with the Falcon 2 Silenced. DON'T USE ANY OTHER WEAPON. Let me know your findings if you try it.

Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii I just did that EXCEPT I killed the guy that has the 2 falcons with the CMP150

Gimme a few mins

OniRyo
03-23-2010, 01:02 AM
I don't even know how the hell I got the Ninja crown O_o

Well i don't got it yet though but it seems to only unlock in Multiplayer from what i've seen, right?

Incompl33t
03-23-2010, 01:04 AM
Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii I just did that EXCEPT I killed the guy that has the 2 falcons with the CMP150

Gimme a few mins

I figure while you're doing it, I'll explain the reasoning. If we are to assume that the crown is a play on "The Name's Bond...James Bond" and that it can only be unlocked via Perfect Agent, we can use this knowledge to assume we are meant to imitate Bond. Since this game was designed 10 years ago, there's probably not a good enough system to register if you've been seen. However, it is clear the game registers the kills with each gun, so maybe if all your kills are with a pistol...

Firelyte Stone
03-23-2010, 01:18 AM
Killed every enemy in the level with only the falcon, a lot of them were headshots too, no crown :(

Incompl33t
03-23-2010, 01:20 AM
Well, I'm out of ideas for the night. Maybe I'll dream the answer. Firelyte, you don't mind if I send you a request, do you? It'd be a lot easier than feeding you theories through a forum.

Firelyte Stone
03-23-2010, 01:22 AM
sure. feed me ideas!

Incompl33t
03-23-2010, 01:23 AM
Alright, and one last question. Did you switch to Unarmed to get the necklace off Cassandra?

Firelyte Stone
03-23-2010, 01:25 AM
Alright, and one last question. Did you switch to Unarmed to get the necklace off Cassandra?

nope, used the falcon whip thing

Incompl33t
03-23-2010, 01:27 AM
nope, used the falcon whip thing

Damn, I was hoping on a solution, hmm, this requires some more investigation, after some rest. Bye all, don't discover it without me!

countvc
03-23-2010, 01:35 AM
Is it may be playing the game useing only weapons from goldeneye or something like that? Like the Klo1313?
Seeing as the name is a bond pun......

countvc
03-23-2010, 01:40 AM
Or.....

IIRC ninja is unlocked by slapping some 1 in multiplayer... maybe this one is a multiplayer..... a perfect round. win with no deaths?

Firelyte Stone
03-23-2010, 01:45 AM
Or.....

IIRC ninja is unlocked by slapping some 1 in multiplayer... maybe this one is a multiplayer..... a perfect round. win with no deaths?

wrong thread XD but ninja is earned by close combat kills, most likely from behind. it has been confirmed to been unlocked after slapping an xx amount of bots and humans.

Spiner202
03-23-2010, 01:47 AM
Is it may be playing the game useing only weapons from goldeneye or something like that? Like the Klo1313?
Seeing as the name is a bond pun......
Furthering on this what about completing a level only using the gun that bond uses (I think you can get it through cheats)

Also, just got red rings and I'm hooked on Perfect Dark so :mad:

Firelyte Stone
03-23-2010, 01:54 AM
Highly unlikely though, because cheats disable the ability to get any of the other crowns :(

BIF CUL81
03-23-2010, 03:14 AM
Hey guys been reading your ideas as naturlally im also hunting for this crown. I have put the game clock on and have been trying to finish a level on perfect agent with the last 3 digits of the timer to be 007. Major long shot and keep getting close to it. Anyone want to try it out with me and let me know if you succeed. Will let you know if i get it right. That would explain how people get it on dif levels.

raptor94k
03-23-2010, 03:36 AM
This might a total shot in the dark :D

But somebody mentioned reading Grimshaw's computer and Joanna earning the name Perfect Dark. Does it tell you how she actually earned that name? Because maybe you can do whatever she did to earn it in the game.

rrrowdy
03-23-2010, 03:40 AM
Does it tell you how she actually earned that name? Because maybe you can do whatever she did to earn it in the game.

this was from the wiki page for PD:

"She has earned the code name "Perfect Dark" due to her exceptional scores in training and high proficiency with a huge variety of weapons."

is there something of more detail in the game itself?

Untitled Agent
03-23-2010, 03:43 AM
it was for having the highest possible test score (even higher than jonathons a++ score). and no, finishing all the training stuff in the carrington institute doesnt unlock it.

Firelyte Stone
03-23-2010, 05:04 AM
I just played through Perfect Agent without exiting the game / going to the dashboard ... add it to the list of failures x_x

Today was a failure. Oh well, better luck tomorrow everyone ;)

The ZombieDeath
03-23-2010, 06:12 AM
I didnt read all the posts but should have,
23. The Name's Dark...Perfect Dark. - maybe it is get all gold stars in shooting range 100% accuracy +

Geveeso
03-23-2010, 06:42 AM
Since the Crown is (likely) for multiple missions, has anyone beat every level by killing every enemy? There are a limited number of enemies, correct?

Also, Firelyte, what all counts towards Completion %? Single, Co-Op(?), Firing Range, Crowns? Anything else?

The Harvmeister
03-23-2010, 07:59 AM
It cant be for doing just one level. it appears in the leaderboards next to difficulty completions and ninja.

Maybe it could be for online play. After a certain amount of kills or something.
Maybe for a certain amount of kills total.

I asked a few people how they got it and most said they weren't sure, but ForbesM2607 said he got it after completeing maian sos on perf. that was his last level to do. I dont think its for that tho.

toxictaz
03-23-2010, 08:26 AM
maybe beat every mission stealthy. if thats even possible.

play once on every map. 100% completion. i dunno. lol...

Untitled Agent
03-23-2010, 08:48 AM
maybe beat every mission stealthy. if thats even possible.
it is, but you'd need to cheat to have a cloaking device. there's a few too many times you're forced to walk into an area with enemies and no cover to hide behind.
i still think the time theory is likely, and am gonna test it out when i'm on next (plus i'm up to perfect now so no reason not to mess around while i'm at it).

judagrmn
03-23-2010, 10:07 AM
My theory as probably already stated is a certain amount of time the game has been played in total. Maybe the 007 theory means 7:00:00 play time? I am sure I don't have 7 hours in the game yet. Anyway of telling total amount of time played? I guess I could go and check :D.

Untitled Agent
03-23-2010, 10:38 AM
My theory as probably already stated is a certain amount of time the game has been played in total. Maybe the 007 theory means 7:00:00 play time? I am sure I don't have 7 hours in the game yet. Anyway of telling total amount of time played? I guess I could go and check :D.
according to my raptr account, i have 27 hours played all up- so that would kill that theory.

Ow Nitram
03-23-2010, 11:31 AM
My friend speaks with one of them who has the crown (dunno who).

He said to me that it's somehow related to the general settings (Dark...perfect dark = video settings, luminosity?)

However, I hardly doubt this is possible since the only setting like that is about the split-screen.

I try to complete a mission on perfect agent with all settings off (No HUD, no sight...) and still nothing. Futhermore, most of them who have the crown said they did nothing special except they were playing on perfect agent.

judagrmn
03-23-2010, 11:34 AM
My friend speaks with one of them who has the crown (dunno who).

He said to me that it's somehow related to the general settings (Dark...perfect dark = video settings, luminosity?)

However, I hardly doubt this is possible since the only setting like that is about the split-screen.

I try to complete a mission on perfect agent with all settings off (No HUD, no sight...) and still nothing. Futhermore, most of them who have the crown said they did nothing special except they were playing on perfect agent.
I just got done trying the same thing (all settings off) and nothing also. Time to drink more beer and keep hacking away at it! :drunk

Shelton
03-23-2010, 11:41 AM
I've tried a couple theories of my own, only to be met with complete failure. They were:

*Completing the first objective at 7 seconds- Figured since the guys who have it were apparently speed running, they may have done this without realising. On the first level, I equipped the mine straight away, ran and threw it as soon as I was down the stairs. Took me quite a few goes to get it to hit the right spot, but with a time of around 00:07:30 nothing happened. Don't think it'd be possible to get exactly 007.

*Shooting many lights/All lights in a level- Again, since the guys who have the crown are clueless as to how they got it, I thought perhaps it was for shooting out lights. Dark is in the crowns name. Twice. A cumulative thing. Maybe they accidentally shot a light and up popped the crown. Anyway, I think this is a bust, unless you need to shoot more than 100 of them.

I played through the first level, shooting every single light, and killing every single bad guy. Felt like 100 of each. Waste of time! Oh well, I guess it gets us closer to the actual solution, knowing what doesn't work.

-Edit- Did these on Perfect Agent btw.

judagrmn
03-23-2010, 11:47 AM
*Shooting many lights/All lights in a level- Again, since the guys who have the crown are clueless as to how they got it, I thought perhaps it was for shooting out lights. Dark is in the crowns name. Twice. A cumulative thing. Maybe they accidentally shot a light and up popped the crown. Anyway, I think this is a bust, unless you need to shoot more than 100 of them.

I played through the first level, shooting every single light, and killing every single bad guy. Felt like 100 of each. Waste of time! Oh well, I guess it gets us closer to the actual solution, knowing what doesn't work.
Just tried to Access the foyer elevator without using the night vision goggles in dataDyne Extraction on Perfect Agent...add it to the list of fail.

Incompl33t
03-23-2010, 12:25 PM
I can confirm playing all 5 Classic setups on all 3 Classic maps doesn't unlock the crown, and I can also confirm that using only the starting weapon doesn't work.

Going to try some more theories out now.

Nusentinsaino
03-23-2010, 02:58 PM
The name's Bond... James Bond.

Perhaps this crown is related to the goldeneye weapons and levels? I don't know.

Firelyte Stone
03-23-2010, 03:24 PM
Another day, another failure! :D

Nah, just joking ;) Today's a great day for some nerd rage

Since the Crown is (likely) for multiple missions, has anyone beat every level by killing every enemy? There are a limited number of enemies, correct?

Also, Firelyte, what all counts towards Completion %? Single, Co-Op(?), Firing Range, Crowns? Anything else?

Time to test this theory -- I'm going to kill every enemy in every level! hurrah. And to answer the question, just about everything you could think of doing in this game ;)

Perhaps this crown is related to the goldeneye weapons and levels? I don't know.

That was one of the first theories, which i've wasted like 5 hours on lol, but it can't be true because everyone who unlocked the crown achieved it while playing missions on perfect agent

Coleman811
03-23-2010, 03:36 PM
just a thought.... use the RB character select trick in multiplayer and put Joannas head on a tuxedo body... hahaha

darran311
03-23-2010, 03:49 PM
Here my "failed" attempts:

-Complete a mission on perfect agent with 7m7s
-Bursting bullets on the wall to write 007
-Complete a mission on perfect agent with only 7 headshots
-Complete a mission on perfect agent in "a perfect way" (100% health, accuracy, kills)
-Failed the same mission 6 times in a row and completed it the 7th time on perfect agent.

Yes, I have quite the imagination...;)

i tried doing the top 3 myself the others never occured to me :)

judagrmn
03-23-2010, 03:50 PM
Here someone try this one out. Shoot a gun out of an enemies hand so he throws his hands in the air to surrender, then shoot him in the back of the head.

Firelyte Stone
03-23-2010, 03:52 PM
Here someone try this one out. Shoot a gun out of an enemies hand so he throws his hands in the air to surrender, then shoot him in the back of the head.

I've done this unintentionally many times :(

judagrmn
03-23-2010, 03:57 PM
I've done this unintentionally many times :( Maybe on other difficulties besides Perfect? Worth a try again I'm just doing missions right now and don't feel like restarting :D.

Ow Nitram
03-23-2010, 04:00 PM
I really wasted my morning trying stupid things....:p

Seriously, I'm starting to think that have nothing to do with James Bond. We're aiming too much on this because of the quote in the crown, maybe we're really not on the right track. We try every single possibility related to 007 without success and I can't believe that stealth theory when Shadow said that he got the crown during a speed run. Honestly, how all ennemis can overlooked you during a speed run?

For now, here the facts:

-Single-Player campaign
-Difficulty: Perfect agent
-Mission: Any

That's all for now...there a lot of possibility with those:confused:

Wrecklaimer
03-23-2010, 04:07 PM
I've actually already tried the whole firing range gold + 100% accuracy thing - nothing. Besides, everyone seems to get it in Solo, so unlikely...

Firelyte Stone
03-23-2010, 04:27 PM
I really wasted my morning trying stupid things....:p

Seriously, I'm starting to think that have nothing to do with James Bond. We're aiming too much on this because of the quote in the crown, maybe we're really not on the right track. We try every single possibility related to 007 without success and I can't believe that stealth theory when Shadow said that he got the crown during a speed run. Honestly, how all ennemis can overlooked you during a speed run?

For now, here the facts:

-Single-Player campaign
-Difficulty: Perfect agent
-Mission: Any

That's all for now...there a lot of possibility with those:confused:

Bandit, you should probably put this somewhere on the first post of the thread so that people won't get sidetracked anymore ;)

just a thought.... use the RB character select trick in multiplayer and put Joannas head on a tuxedo body... hahaha

hehe, that's pretty clever

BanditBanks
03-23-2010, 04:34 PM
Will do, I've been having a break from PD. But I shall keep everything updated as much as I can.
And I'll try and give some good theories, but I'm all out. Everything has been tried or said before.

judagrmn
03-23-2010, 04:43 PM
Maybe go through an entire level and disarm all enemies?:drunk(drunk ideas)

acurate bob
03-23-2010, 04:45 PM
theres another thread saying that it might be to kill all enemies on all missions? has anybody done this yet?

The Harvmeister
03-23-2010, 04:47 PM
has anyone found all the cheeses yet? its a cheesey line if u ask me

BanditBanks
03-23-2010, 04:52 PM
theres another thread saying that it might be to kill all enemies on all missions? has anybody done this yet?

Yes this has already been tried dozens of times, there's a list at the start of this thread.

That guy that posted the other thread is just an attention seeker, don't give him what he wants, he hasn't posted anything worthwhile and chances are he won't.

He's too busy telling others how he is 'RANK NUMBER 20 IN THE WORLD LULZ I R00LZ'.

acurate bob
03-23-2010, 04:57 PM
well at the start it says kill all enemnies in a level.

this to me says its only one level this has been done on, not all.

but if its been done then nvm...

MasterNinja33
03-23-2010, 04:58 PM
It might be impossible on Perfect Agent difficulty but maybe someone should try finishing a level without killing anyone. That might explain Maian SOS speed runs, if you use the psychosis gun and let your new friends kill everyone off. Can't think of any other good levels for this idea because some require you to kill as part of an objective.

I don't know, I am bored at work and just thinking of stupid ideas. :confused:

acurate bob
03-23-2010, 05:05 PM
is it possible it could be unlocked opnly when you have all the other crowns? is there anybody who has EVERY crown but this one?

BanditBanks
03-23-2010, 05:07 PM
Some people who have this crown don't have all the others because they don't have the achievement from collecting them all.

And yes, there are people who have all the other crowns, myself included.
This last one is just driving us all insane :(

The Harvmeister
03-23-2010, 05:14 PM
Im starting to think its something like doing a mission on perf without killing anyone

BanditBanks
03-23-2010, 05:15 PM
Already been tried.

The Harvmeister
03-23-2010, 05:27 PM
heres a wild guess.

Maybe its like a viral achievement. so u gta play online with a developer or someone who has it

just a thought

BanditBanks
03-23-2010, 05:28 PM
That's actually a good idea, sadly it has always been unlocked after doing a mission on Perfect Agent solo :(

Captain Urahara
03-23-2010, 05:34 PM
That's actually a good idea, sadly it has always been unlocked after doing a mission on Perfect Agent solo :(
Well at least that's what those who have it have been telling people. They could just be trying to throw us off . . .
But it's hard to say at this point.

Thinreaper
03-23-2010, 05:52 PM
Beating the last mission on PA without taking any damage?
Defeat the end boss on PA without taking any damage?

BanditBanks
03-23-2010, 05:54 PM
As fun as that sounds, people have unlocked that on other levels.

Why can't anyone put us out of our misery.
I know if I unlocked it I would tell anyone, but there seems to be a strange degree of secrecy with this crown.

Ryan Boss Stevens
03-23-2010, 07:05 PM
Here's one helluva random idea...... Has anybody tried to google it? There may be somebody that blurted out how they got it in the search results. This place'll definitely pop up. XD


EDIT: Ok don't google it I just did it and didn't find anything good. Only found some Wikipedia Article on it.

Coleman811
03-23-2010, 07:11 PM
Here's one helluva random idea...... Has anybody tried to google it? There may be somebody that blurted out how they got it in the search results. This place'll definitely pop up. XD


EDIT: Ok don't google it I just did it and didn't find anything good. Only found some Wikipedia Article on it.

Haha, yeah, i just found links to this page...

Ryan Boss Stevens
03-23-2010, 07:12 PM
Haha, yeah, i just found links to this page...

Found those too. Even found a Perfect Dark Zero guide on another site O_o;

ReignerRuler
03-23-2010, 07:15 PM
Has anyone done a level without anyone seeing them or drawing their gun?

ReligiousKnives
03-23-2010, 07:16 PM
Could This Crown be linke din any way to the Challenges?

After all, the picture for complete all challenges (up to and inc 29th) and THe Name's Dark... Perfect Dark are basically the same?

Complete all with a certain amount of score?
Complete the last challenge flawlessly e.t.c

The position of the crown suggests this could possibly be this?



OR


Complete the Entire game on Perfect Agent completing each level under the set time given (you can see the set times if you die during a level - It will tell you time taken and set time underneath)

OR

Complete the game using only classic weapons

Kanzen Shikaze
03-23-2010, 07:17 PM
anyone think of trying classic weapons for this?

WarlockSoL
03-23-2010, 07:27 PM
Could This Crown be linke din any way to the Challenges?

After all, the picture for complete all challenges (up to and inc 29th) and THe Name's Dark... Perfect Dark are basically the same?

Complete all with a certain amount of score?
Complete the last challenge flawlessly e.t.c

The position of the crown suggests this could possibly be this?



OR


Complete the Entire game on Perfect Agent completing each level under the set time given (you can see the set times if you die during a level - It will tell you time taken and set time underneath)

OR

Complete the game using only classic weapons

Could it be some combination of "doing everything"? Maybe the people who reported getting it in single player were unlocking their last cheat code or crown at the time? (Perfect Agent is where most of the cheats and crowns unlock). Maybe that (3-star all missions + earn all cheats/crowns) + all-golds in firing range + all challenges complete does it?

Wrecklaimer
03-23-2010, 07:41 PM
Maybe the speed run time wasn't far off? Apparently the world record for some Goldeneye speed runs is currently 1:02. Perhaps you need to finish in exactly 62 seconds...:confused:
http://www.the-elite.net/102/
Or beat some of the Goldeneye records?
http://www.the-elite.net/GE/elite.htm
I can't imagine why Rare would make this so ridiculously hard to figure out...:chair

Ryan Boss Stevens
03-23-2010, 07:42 PM
Could This Crown be linke din any way to the Challenges?

After all, the picture for complete all challenges (up to and inc 29th) and THe Name's Dark... Perfect Dark are basically the same?

Complete all with a certain amount of score?
Complete the last challenge flawlessly e.t.c

The position of the crown suggests this could possibly be this?



OR


Complete the Entire game on Perfect Agent completing each level under the set time given (you can see the set times if you die during a level - It will tell you time taken and set time underneath)

OR

Complete the game using only classic weapons


There's a problem with that last one, buddy. You gotta CHEAT to use the Classic Weapons.

The Harvmeister
03-23-2010, 09:26 PM
has anyone unlocked every cheat?

Firelyte Stone
03-23-2010, 09:29 PM
Time to shoot down some theories

Beating the last mission on PA without taking any damage?
Defeat the end boss on PA without taking any damage? Confirmed to not be it

Complete the Entire game on Perfect Agent completing each level under the set time given (you can see the set times if you die during a level - It will tell you time taken and set time underneath)
Those set times you see are only on the levels that have a cheat to unlock. Go play the third level on perfect agent, there is no set time ;)

Complete the game using only classic weaponsIt's been tried and it's known that cheats disable getting any crowns.

Could it be some combination of "doing everything"? Maybe the people who reported getting it in single player were unlocking their last cheat code or crown at the time? (Perfect Agent is where most of the cheats and crowns unlock). Maybe that (3-star all missions + earn all cheats/crowns) + all-golds in firing range + all challenges complete does it? There are people who have the crown but don't have others, such as the bronze/silver/gold stars.

has anyone unlocked every cheat?
yes. it's pretty much a given that anyone with all three stars on the leaderboard has every cheat in the game.

The Harvmeister
03-23-2010, 09:37 PM
^^ well im guessin its gta be a viral then. not many other options.

Incompl33t
03-23-2010, 10:02 PM
It is not viral, unless the 5 different people who have it have formed some sick cult dedicated to driving people away from the solution.

Honestly, I'm hearing the same theories over and over and it's getting annoying. Read the thread to check your theory hasn't been posted, or at least check the damn first post. With all that said, we've gathered that people have supposedly unlocked it in WAR! Skedar Ruins and Defection on PA. So now we have to ask ourselves. What do these three levels have in common?

Firelyte Stone
03-23-2010, 10:30 PM
Defection WAR! and Skedar similarities ...

- Pistols (Falcon Silencer and Phoenix)
- Easy head shots (A lot of enemies on defection have their back towards you)
- Able to run past most enemies // let the Maians take care of them

That is all I can see. Back on the first page, I mentioned I was trying to get pistol kills and head shots, but at that time I was wrong and thought the crown was unlocked during the mission, so I didn't take for account that I needed to finish the level =/. So those are still a possibility.

OniRyo
03-23-2010, 10:41 PM
I've got every cheat in the game, every Challenge completed and missing only two crowns which are ofcourse Ninja and The Name is Dark... Perfect Dark, so beating all those things ofcourse doesn't work =)

Ow Nitram
03-23-2010, 10:42 PM
Even if it looks stupid, simple as each mission has a stat screen at the end.

If the crown is possible in any mission, the most common point between them is...the stat.

By the way, I try to complete a mission at 0:07 but nothing else to say, it's a lost case.

OniRyo
03-23-2010, 10:45 PM
I could complete a mission in 7 seconds, but i would have to glitch then and i don't think Rareware wan't us to even do that but alright =)

Untitled Agent
03-23-2010, 10:48 PM
new theory- kill all enemies by headshot (not meaning you need to kill everything in the level, just that every kill should be with a headshot). could fit in with how people got it while doing speed runs.

Wrecklaimer
03-23-2010, 10:51 PM
new theory- kill all enemies by headshot (not meaning you need to kill everything in the level, just that every kill should be with a headshot). could fit in with how people got it while doing speed runs.

Then wouldn't getting the crown for The Duel also get this?

Firelyte Stone
03-23-2010, 10:53 PM
new theory- kill all enemies by headshot (not meaning you need to kill everything in the level, just that every kill should be with a headshot). could fit in with how people got it while doing speed runs.

I've tried this on defection and chicago, it's a no go =/

Coleman811
03-23-2010, 10:53 PM
....well i thought i'd clear it up and say that putting joanna's head on a tuxedo body...will in fact NOT get you that crown... I know you all thought it would... unforunatley, that's not the case....

OniRyo
03-23-2010, 11:04 PM
Because it hasn't been unlocked by many people it's most likely something out pure of luck and something that's just hard to figure out, so for example getting only headshots in a level has most likely been done so many times by people there's even people low on the Leaderbords that got it, so i don't think it's a fast time either

Untitled Agent
03-23-2010, 11:06 PM
I've tried this on defection and chicago, it's a no go =/
damn. hmm...cumulative number of kills with the falcon 2/handguns then?

Incompl33t
03-23-2010, 11:09 PM
Quick Survey to anyone who's online:

What control set-ups are you using?

Firelyte Stone
03-23-2010, 11:16 PM
Classic, auto aim off =/

Incompl33t
03-23-2010, 11:23 PM
I am completely out of ideas. SOMEONE EMAIL 4J!

awfiedler
03-23-2010, 11:32 PM
My honest guess, being that they all have the silenced pistol in common, would be x amount of silenced pistol kills (Bond's best weapon =D), but that is just a guess.

Firelyte Stone
03-23-2010, 11:34 PM
My honest guess, being that they all have the silenced pistol in common, would be x amount of silenced pistol kills (Bond's best weapon =D), but that is just a guess.

The silenced pistol is only on defection :P Skedar shrine has scoped pistol and phoenix, and WAR! only has phoenix

awfiedler
03-23-2010, 11:35 PM
Ah, my mistake. Haven't finished PA yet, so I haven't even made it to WAR! D=

CressDX
03-23-2010, 11:36 PM
I am completely out of ideas. SOMEONE EMAIL 4J!

I think thats the best idéa now... we have tryed everything

Incompl33t
03-23-2010, 11:37 PM
All I know is I'm getting pissed off with this crown, I've only been playing PA for a while now to no avail. Is it just me or does taking it slow in PA make it laughably easy?

hosser
03-23-2010, 11:42 PM
All I know is I'm getting pissed off with this crown, I've only been playing PA for a while now to no avail. Is it just me or does taking it slow in PA make it laughably easy?

I didn't even take it slow, found it hilariously easy compared to the N64 - I'm thinking the fact that the framerate isn't a slideshow-like 10 FPS probably eliminates most of the game's challenge (but certainly not all, nor any of its charm).

By the way I finished it without quitting or failing a mission on Day 1 so you can strike that from the list...

Untitled Agent
03-23-2010, 11:46 PM
The silenced pistol is only on defection :P Skedar shrine has scoped pistol and phoenix, and WAR! only has phoenix
which makes the only connection that they all have handguns in common (so it could be cumulative handgun kills, similar to how ninja seems to be cumulative melee kills).

Poida
03-23-2010, 11:47 PM
Quick Survey to anyone who's online:

What control set-ups are you using? Classic Auto aim on.

Incompl33t
03-23-2010, 11:47 PM
I didn't even take it slow, found it hilariously easy compared to the N64 - I'm thinking the fact that the framerate isn't a slideshow-like 10 FPS probably eliminates most of the game's challenge (but certainly not all, nor any of its charm).

By the way I finished it without quitting or failing a mission on Day 1 so you can strike that from the list...

That's a great one to check off the list, no-one wanted to do it, lol.
Also, sure most of the challenge is gone but the K7 Avenger is still way overpowered in Perfect, one wrong move on Air Base, Air Force or Crash Site and you lose.

DeLuca
03-23-2010, 11:52 PM
Have people considered the crown being based around using the Classic Weapons? Either for the campaign missions (but enabling them classes as a cheat i think and so will disable any chance to earn any crowns or achievements anyway) or it could be for use in the combat simulator. I'm thinking getting x number of kills with each classic weapon on a classic map, since they're guns and levels used in Goldeneye.

Firelyte Stone
03-23-2010, 11:54 PM
Have people considered the crown being based around using the Classic Weapons? Either for the campaign missions (but enabling them classes as a cheat i think and so will disable any chance to earn any crowns or achievements anyway) or it could be for use in the combat simulator. I'm thinking getting x number of kills with each classic weapon on a classic map, since they're guns and levels used in Goldeneye.

Even though it's been mentioned 10 times now, yes I still tried, I've gotten over 100 kills with every classic weapon and played on every classic map.

Firelyte Stone
03-23-2010, 11:55 PM
which makes the only connection that they all have handguns in common (so it could be cumulative handgun kills, similar to how ninja seems to be cumulative melee kills).

I hope this is it.

//edit: however, it's probably not :( because a lot more people would have it if this was the case

BanditBanks
03-23-2010, 11:55 PM
Nah, we've tried that.

And it definatly seems to only pop up during solo play.

I saw the 'saving...' pop up a few times while playing Counter-Operative...
That might just be saving something for the dummy account though, even though it has no crowns or achievements.

Poida
03-23-2010, 11:58 PM
I love using the classic weapons in MP, used them heaps and got nothing out of it.

hosser
03-23-2010, 11:58 PM
That's a great one to check off the list, no-one wanted to do it, lol.
Also, sure most of the challenge is gone but the K7 Avenger is still way overpowered in Perfect, one wrong move on Air Base, Air Force or Crash Site and you lose.

Yeah definitely. I would say Carrington Institute: Defense is the worst for cheap K7 Avenger deaths. When activating the turrets especially. First two consoles are usually clear of enemies, maybe you'll get complacent going for the third - corridor looks clear, then suddenly --KOP KOP KOP!! -- you're dead before you even know what happened. Smug shielded K7 shocktrooper will probably say "Yeah, baby" or "I'm just toooo gewwd" just to rub salt in the wound, too. :P

Incompl33t
03-24-2010, 12:00 AM
You know what?

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/18/fuck_this_shit_cat.jpg

J/K but surely if it was cumulative pistol kills more than 10 people would have it. I know I use pistols all the time..

Yeah definitely. I would say Carrington Institute: Defense is the worst for cheap K7 Avenger deaths. When activating the turrets especially. First two consoles are usually clear of enemies, maybe you'll get complacent going for the third - corridor looks clear, then suddenly --KOP KOP KOP!! -- you're dead before you even know what happened. Smug shielded K7 shocktrooper will probably say "Yeah, baby" or "I'm just toooo gewwd" just to rub salt in the wound, too. :P

SHIELDS AND K7s DON'T GO TOGETHER. EVER.

hosser
03-24-2010, 12:07 AM
You know what?

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/18/fuck_this_shit_cat.jpg

J/K but surely if it was cumulative pistol kills more than 10 people would have it. I know I use pistols all the time..



SHIELDS AND K7s DON'T GO TOGETHER. EVER.

Bwahaha, ace picture.

I'm getting so desperate for new ideas and things to try now that I just tried entering Cass De Vries' necklace user credentials on the "Redeem Code" section of the dashboard.

Do I even need to say it didn't work...? :P

Untitled Agent
03-24-2010, 12:07 AM
J/K but surely if it was cumulative pistol kills more than 10 people would have it. I know I use pistols all the time.
not if it's for something like 1000 kills (not saying it definately is, but it's a possibility).

I F0RG0T 2 WIPE
03-24-2010, 12:10 AM
Has anyone tried Dark Ltk mode a better description can be found on this link->

http://speedrunwiki.com/Dark_LTK

seems unlikely though idk.

Incompl33t
03-24-2010, 12:12 AM
not if it's for something like 1000 kills (not saying it definately is, but it's a possibility).

If it was 1000, i'd be pretty goddamn close, lol. Alright. Challenge accepted, handguns only from now on.

hosser
03-24-2010, 12:13 AM
Yep, Duel has been done in with all PD settings maxed. Hey guys maybe it doesn't count if you do a Special Assignment - maybe you have to do a full mission like the Co-op/Counter-op achievements.

Anyone up for some DLTK Carrington Villa? :P

Incompl33t
03-24-2010, 12:17 AM
Yep, Duel has been done in with all PD settings maxed. Hey guys maybe it doesn't count if you do a Special Assignment - maybe you have to do a full mission like the Co-op/Counter-op achievements.

Anyone up for some DLTK Carrington Villa? :P

ON YOUR OWN, MATE! I tried Skedar Ruins but Reapers with 1000% Accuracy = Instant Death. Then I tried Chicago, and that was a horrible fail. On Villa, I can't pull out "my little friend" without getting pwned.

OniRyo
03-24-2010, 12:21 AM
10 years ago i've actually completed Skedar Ruins with the Perfect Dark Difficulty everything on max, from what i remember you need to hide a lot, and it's scaring like hell!, but anyways i've E-mailed 4J now about the Crown ''The Name is Dark... Perfect Dark'' i also e-mailed Rareware to be sure, so hopefully i'll get a reply from them!

Incompl33t
03-24-2010, 12:24 AM
I don't actually think you'll get an answer. If they wanted you to know, they would have included crown descriptions.

OniRyo
03-24-2010, 12:25 AM
You never know, it's worth a try, but this is just saying like ''They won't make Official Guides because if they did they would just put that in the Description''

hosser
03-24-2010, 12:26 AM
ON YOUR OWN, MATE! I tried Skedar Ruins but Reapers with 1000% Accuracy = Instant Death. Then I tried Chicago, and that was a horrible fail. On Villa, I can't pull out "my little friend" without getting pwned.

Hahaha, there are a ridiculous number of grunts on that stage... Not to mention the Shocktroopers who have their guns trained on the entrance to the wine cellar at all times.

HoppyHippo
03-24-2010, 12:32 AM
BanditBanks did a run on Air Force One with DLTK settings and didn't work.

hosser
03-24-2010, 12:37 AM
But Air Force One in itself is not a mission. You'd have to do Air Base and Crash Site also if the crown requires a full mission to be completed... :P

Firelyte Stone
03-24-2010, 12:38 AM
I got over 1000 kills with a pistol on the combat simulator, so that's definitely not it :P

I F0RG0T 2 WIPE
03-24-2010, 12:45 AM
Well I'm out of ideas, probably best to wait till someone reveals the truth.

I F0RG0T 2 WIPE
03-24-2010, 12:47 AM
But Air Force One in itself is not a mission. You'd have to do Air Base and Crash Site also if the crown requires a full mission to be completed... :P

Good point might be a series of levels... And villa is only 1 series but the snipers would own you...

OniRyo
03-24-2010, 12:55 AM
Alright i'll try Skedar on Perfect Dark on Max then, let's see if i'm even able to do that, LOL

Alright well, I just rushed through the reaper but then i got beated to dead by lots of Skedars at once, LOL, nah trust me, i don't think the really low person on the leaderbord ever did that

Firelyte Stone
03-24-2010, 01:01 AM
You know what?

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/18/fuck_this_shit_cat.jpg



Quoted because this is helping me not hurl my xbox at someones face

Alright i'll try Skedar on Perfect Dark on Max then, let's see if i'm even able to do that, LOL

Hah good luck with that sir.

I F0RG0T 2 WIPE
03-24-2010, 01:07 AM
Has anyone beaten a mission without being seen on Perfect Agent seems difficult but may be possible and I'm pretty sure it registers since one of the secret weapons requires not being seen.

Firelyte Stone
03-24-2010, 01:12 AM
Has anyone beaten a mission without being seen on Perfect Agent seems difficult but may be possible and I'm pretty sure it registers since one of the secret weapons requires not being seen.

That's true, but the lights are turned off on the bottom level of Extraction, making it incredibly easy to not be seen, while the rest of the level is a different story, and impossible when it comes to Cassandra's guards...

You have to be seen in every level, even stealth, when you have to throw the mine on the blocked door. There's no way you can get up to those stairs without being caught from those guards ... at least from what I can tell anyways =/

Also, I don't believe that everyone who has received the crown lied to us all, all of them mentioned they got it when playing perfect agent, each on levels that are impossible to not be seen. blehhhh I hate this crown

//edit: hmm ... i just thought of something a little complex. total score for perfect agent only. i'll tell you all how it goes. it would make perfect sense as to why JS JOKER got it after beating WAR!

I F0RG0T 2 WIPE
03-24-2010, 01:37 AM
Why would someone make a game with awards where people can't even tell how they got them after unlocking them, at least MAKE A DESCRIPTION AFTER YOU UNLOCK AN AWARD! SO A GAMER ACTUALLY KNOWS WHAT HE OR SHE DID! ARR!

I F0RG0T 2 WIPE
03-24-2010, 01:41 AM
That's true, but the lights are turned off on the bottom level of Extraction, making it incredibly easy to not be seen, while the rest of the level is a different story, and impossible when it comes to Cassandra's guards...

You have to be seen in every level, even stealth, when you have to throw the mine on the blocked door. There's no way you can get up to those stairs without being caught from those guards ... at least from what I can tell anyways =/

Also, I don't believe that everyone who has received the crown lied to us all, all of them mentioned they got it when playing perfect agent, each on levels that are impossible to not be seen. blehhhh I hate this crown

//edit: hmm ... i just thought of something a little complex. total score for perfect agent only. i'll tell you all how it goes. it would make perfect sense as to why JS JOKER got it after beating WAR!

I was thinking this too but scrolled a bit father down the leaderboard to see people with higher total score then JS Joker on perfect agent but then again everyone with the crown has a high total score on Perfect Agent.

HatredIncarnate
03-24-2010, 01:44 AM
i read every post on this thread earlier and it shot down plenty of my ideas. but i didn't see anyone mention that they had watched ALL of the cutscenes..... so theres that.

I F0RG0T 2 WIPE
03-24-2010, 01:47 AM
i read every post on this thread earlier and it shot down plenty of my ideas. but i didn't see anyone mention that they had watched ALL of the cutscenes..... so theres that.

If it's watching all the cutscenes, I'm going to be pissed.

Firelyte Stone
03-24-2010, 02:01 AM
If it's watching all the cutscenes, I'm going to be pissed.

Yes, me too, because they're conducting a scientific experiment by seeing if the general population even cares about the story! And apparently only a couple do! BLAH

I was thinking this too but scrolled a bit father down the leaderboard to see people with higher total score then JS Joker on perfect agent but then again everyone with the crown has a high total score on Perfect Agent.I just have one thing to say about that.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCC CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCK.

I'm done for the night. See all you wonderful people tomorrow :)

raptor94k
03-24-2010, 02:13 AM
i read every post on this thread earlier and it shot down plenty of my ideas. but i didn't see anyone mention that they had watched ALL of the cutscenes..... so theres that.

I watched all the cutscenes and didn't get the crown.

Helios007
03-24-2010, 02:15 AM
If it's watching all the cutscenes, I'm going to be pissed.
Why would that annoy you? This isn't Metal Gear Solid. The majority of the cutscenes are less than a minute long.

Shelton
03-24-2010, 02:29 AM
Why would that annoy you? This isn't Metal Gear Solid. The majority of the cutscenes are less than a minute long.

Annoying in the sense that it is such a simple thing to overlook. We've been trying all these elaborate plans and wasting so much time trying to figure it out. If it was awarded for just watching cutscenes I'd be pissed too!

I F0RG0T 2 WIPE
03-24-2010, 02:55 AM
as stated above, it's not the matter of length, it's the matter of simpleness. Watch once someone figures it out, it will end up being simple.

NASTRONAUT
03-24-2010, 06:19 AM
please people keep posting lets figure this out

Pap9067
03-24-2010, 07:38 AM
Has anyone tried using that and beating a level??
maybe like beat a level with that on and without using night vision?
ive got 2 left..quickly does it and this one

Untitled Agent
03-24-2010, 08:18 AM
Has anyone tried using that and beating a level??
maybe like beat a level with that on and without using night vision?
ive got 2 left..quickly does it and this one
cheats disable crowns/achievements. so no.

countvc
03-24-2010, 08:34 AM
is it something as simple as using the PD theme shirts and pic on ur tag/ avatar/ xbox?

Incompl33t
03-24-2010, 08:58 AM
You never know, it's worth a try, but this is just saying like ''They won't make Official Guides because if they did they would just put that in the Description''

Maybe, but if there's no guide out yet, they won't give out answers yet, either.

Zee
03-24-2010, 12:04 PM
I've been thinking, maybe it has to do with the guards reactions to you? I'm not a hundred percent sure, but I remember a few guards asking "who is she?" Then again, someone did unlock it on War.

BanditBanks
03-24-2010, 12:21 PM
Here's a new theory:

WE ARE TRYING WAY TOO HARD!
:(

More and more people on the leaderboards are getting it, their scores aren't anything significant and most of them don't even have the bronze/silver/gold awards.

I've sent a few messages to them but theres about 99% chance they won't reply or just give bullshit answers like that one guy who told me he got it by finishing the game on all difficulties RELALY fast.
When he hadn't even finished the game on Special Agent *rolls eyes*.

awfiedler
03-24-2010, 12:49 PM
I'm telling you, I think it might be something having to do with overall kill count, either through all the campaign or just Perfect Agent, possibly with particular weapons (single shot pistol types, ie the Falcon and the Phoenix maybe?)

Ow Nitram
03-24-2010, 01:11 PM
Here's a new theory:

WE ARE TRYING WAY TOO HARD!
:(

More and more people on the leaderboards are getting it, their scores aren't anything significant and most of them don't even have the bronze/silver/gold awards.

I've sent a few messages to them but theres about 99% chance they won't reply or just give bullshit answers like that one guy who told me he got it by finishing the game on all difficulties RELALY fast.
When he hadn't even finished the game on Special Agent *rolls eyes*.

I agree.

Unless someone honest tell us is exact playthrough, we will stay on the same point.

Since I played over and over again in WAR! (more than 6 hours in the last 2 days), I pretty sure this is something "overall". This is the shortest level and the more linear, I try everything but still nothing.

Even more, there two things that seem to be confirmed when you see that some guys ranked around 500th have the crown:

1-Can't be related to speed run (they don't even have the silver and gold star!)

2-Can't be related to completition %.

COBOLisCOOL
03-24-2010, 01:15 PM
I know you are all trying to get this in solo, but could it be related to leveling up in the combat simulator? The top rank is called "Perfect". Also, from looking at old N64 stuff it looks like there is a time played component as well as others that might carry over into solo.

countvc
03-24-2010, 01:17 PM
well i know its not watching the end credits. just done that

Untitled Agent
03-24-2010, 01:21 PM
I know you are all trying to get this in solo, but could it be related to leveling up in the combat simulator? The top rank is called "Perfect". Also, from looking at old N64 stuff it looks like there is a time played component as well as others that might carry over into solo.
but we know some people already have the crown so thats incredibly unlikely (one of the requirements for rank 1 is 12 days of play time in combat simulator games).

OniRyo
03-24-2010, 01:28 PM
Don't you need around almost 200k Kills for the Perfect rank and about 10 thousand miles walked?, 12 days for that is hardly even possible

Untitled Agent
03-24-2010, 01:31 PM
Don't you need around almost 200k Kills for the Perfect rank and about 10 thousand miles walked?, 12 days for that is hardly even possible
something like that. you also need something like 500 of each medal from memory, plus a fair amount of shots fired- i'd be very surprised if anyone has rank 1 already, unless they work for rare or 4j.

Iceman2021
03-24-2010, 01:37 PM
Yea I remember playing this game a shit ton on the N64 and I never reached rank 1. I think I got to around 2 or 3. So yea I doubt anybody has gotten to rank 1 yet unless there is some cheap way to boost to it that I don't know about.

OniRyo
03-24-2010, 01:39 PM
There is ofcourse a way to boost it but still it would take you many days. which is like 12/13 if you play it originally, it would take you years

BanditBanks
03-24-2010, 01:48 PM
http://speedrunwiki.com/Combat_Simulator_milestones

All the things you need to do for Rank 1: Perfect.

SilverSluggerMZ
03-24-2010, 02:07 PM
They wouldn't of mad the name of the Crown similar to James Bond for no reason. Just don't think too hard. I wouldn't think it's cutscenes. Does it have to do with using the James Bond weapons/maps possibly? Sorry ahead if this has been mentioned before, I did not read the entire thread.

thechalkoutline
03-24-2010, 03:00 PM
Someone try messaging Everoth

He looks like he got it legit and it was the last one he got (yesterday). He might have a good idea as to how.

BanditBanks
03-24-2010, 03:05 PM
It wasn't the last one he got because he didn't have all 200 when I first asked him.

Also, he was the one that told me "do all missions real fast on all diffictulies".
He didn't have any of the Gold/Silver/Bronze crowns, so he's a liar.

thechalkoutline
03-24-2010, 03:08 PM
Maybe I'm doing something wrong then, but this is what I was looking at...

http://live.xbox.com/en-US/profile/profile.aspx?pp=0&GamerTag=Everoth

Oh, wait, realized it's the last achievement he got, so maybe not the last crown. My bad.

thechalkoutline
03-24-2010, 03:26 PM
Ok, what about this? Found this posted by Dalagonash on another forum...

I have a kerazay idea as to how 'Name's Dark' is obtained.

In my eyes it would make sense that, considering they have some single mission, some co-op, some multiplayer, one crown might be attributed to the Counter-operative mode.

People on 360a are obsessed with a few bits of information from some people on the leaderboards, however I get the feeling these might be red herrings on account of other people saying 'sorry, under NDA' and it would make sense that they may have got the achievement whilst doing the 'who needs enemies' achievement.

That and less people are probably playing Counter-op than any other mode, and most people probably boosted friends through the achievement rather than play properly.

Ergo I need someone to humour me, to play the role of the goons and for me to do this to them:

[video of bond shooting screen]

Well, not the walk, but perhaps it's for headshot pistol kills on counter op baddies then complete the level, maybe it's a cumulative number of pistol kills on a counter op buddy.

It's a shot in the dark, but that's all we've got right now.

Jan 0
03-24-2010, 04:17 PM
obviously almost every idea was tried/posted now. after all the hours and days of pain, questions and endless runs here is one more: what about a glitched crown, which SHOULD be unlocked after completing everything?(training, firing range, solo missions, challenges, coop, and counter op). this would be also some kind of perfection and would definitely make sense to me. or maybe after reaching "rank 1. perfect"? there were also people who unlocked "prime target" way earlier than after finishing challenge 29.
it wouldn`t be the first glitch in the game.
...but the worst. :uzi:

BanditBanks
03-24-2010, 04:23 PM
I was just thinking the same thing...
It could be glitched.

Let's look at the facts:
- Everyone who has it, doesn't know how they got it. Or they just bullshit us.
- This game has an incredible amount of glitchy areas since it was an N64 game and that didn't have top notch coding.
- Quite a few achievements aren't unlocking when they should be.
- The 'Prime Target' is unlocking when it shouldn't be.
- On one of the other forums a crown was unlocked from the wrong level. Even though that person already had that particular crown.

There is a chance it could be actually from getting to Rank 1:Perfect, but these people have had the game glitch and give them the crown.

I just don't know what to think anymore about this crown haha.

Hopefully we will get an update soon and maybe someone at 4J/Rare/Whatever will give us a helping hand.

The Harvmeister
03-24-2010, 04:25 PM
obviously almost every idea was tried/posted now. after all the hours and days of pain, questions and endless runs here is one more: what about a glitched crown, which SHOULD be unlocked after completing everything (training, firing range, solo missions, challenges, coop, and counter op? this would be also some kind of perfection and would definitely make sense to me. or maybe after reaching rank 1. perfect? there were also people who unlocked "prime target" way earlier than after finishing 29.
it wouldn`t be the first glitch in the game.
...but the worst. :uzi:

I agree, it might just not unlock properly

I F0RG0T 2 WIPE
03-24-2010, 04:40 PM
I have one idea of how to get the crown, all the players mentioned they got it in perfect agent mode and they also all have decent overall perfect agent score and yes I know people have better score then them but it might have something to do with getting a certain score on every level on perfect agent mode, which would explain why people don't have the crown, because maybe they got a really high score on one level but not so high on another. Which would also explain why everyone got it on a diff level and no idea how. So if someone wants to try getting the exact score or higher on every level as JS Joker on perfect agent mode and confirm this isn't the case.

Firelyte Stone
03-24-2010, 05:01 PM
I have one idea of how to get the crown, all the players mentioned they got it in perfect agent mode and they also all have decent overall perfect agent score and yes I know people have better score then them but it might have something to do with getting a certain score on every level on perfect agent mode, which would explain why people don't have the crown, because maybe they got a really high score on one level but not so high on another. Which would also explain why everyone got it on a diff level and no idea how. So if someone wants to try getting the exact score or higher on every level as JS Joker on perfect agent mode and confirm this isn't the case.

I'll do this.

Hello everyone again, today's a great day to show RJ who's boss! They are! :mad: but we'll eventually find a way to strangle them to death.

As usual, help us with your input! But make sure what you suggest hasn't already been suggested 50000 times in this thread already! thanks :)

I fear bandits post, so I'm just going to act like that's not a possibility at all :D

//edit: don't have any hopes about the score thing, because shadowlancer got the crown during a speedrun, and those aren't any good at all for points ;)

I F0RG0T 2 WIPE
03-24-2010, 05:07 PM
I'll do this.

Hello everyone again, today's a great day to show RJ who's boss! They are! :mad: but we'll eventually find a way to strangle them to death.

As usual, help us with your input! But make sure what you suggest hasn't already been suggested 50000 times in this thread already! thanks :)

I fear bandits post, so I'm just going to act like that's not a possibility at all :D

//edit: don't have any hopes about the score thing, because shadowlancer got the crown during a speedrun, and those aren't any good at all for points ;)

He has the the highest score at of all of the people with the crown so idk. You can't even tell if this crown is glitched since no one knows exactly how to get it.

Edit: On agent speed runs I don't have to kill anyone, neither on special agent, but on Perfect agent speed runs it seems I have to kill everyone expecially on the first level, even though I got a 3 minute time.

Firelyte Stone
03-24-2010, 05:10 PM
He has the the highest score at of all of the people with the crown so idk. You can't even tell if this crown is glitched since no one knows exactly how to get it.

Ahh let me explain further. I already have more points than JS Joker, so I know over total points isn't the problem. But then that brings up your point, maybe you have to satisfy a minimum per every level, no? Well here's the problem with that: speed runs get you a terrible amount of points -- you don't kill hardly anyone, accuracy is probably way off, and you most likely got shot to hell -- since shadowlancer got the crown during the speedrun, there is no way he would have satisfied whatever the minimum would have been for that level.

BanditBanks
03-24-2010, 05:22 PM
I agree with Firelyte.

Besides, there are already 3 crowns based on getting speed runs.
I don't like the idea that to get this last crown you need even BETTER speed runs.

There's a chance it could be to do with points, but speed run + getting high points just doesn't work.

WarlockSoL
03-24-2010, 05:23 PM
I'm inclined to go with the "it's glitched" explanation. If it's not glitched, the method to earn it is so convoluted that it will probably never be figured out.

I'd be curious to see someone actually get rank 1 and see if that unlocks it for them though.

Firelyte Stone
03-24-2010, 05:30 PM
Edit: On agent speed runs I don't have to kill anyone, neither on special agent, but on Perfect agent speed runs it seems I have to kill everyone expecially on the first level, even though I got a 3 minute time. Ahh I see :) I'm so used to disarming everyone that I forgot killing was an option XD But there's one other contradiction. Someone unlocked the crown on the skedar shrine, and someone else unlocked it on WAR!. If the crown dealt with minimum points for every level, then that would not have been possible. Say that the minumum points only has to be for the missions -- well, then JS joker wouldn't have unlocked it during WAR!, and vice versa.

//edit: just to clarify, if i remember correctly, both of those examples were after the first time completing the mission.

I F0RG0T 2 WIPE
03-24-2010, 05:34 PM
I don't think it is glitched if now like 10 people have it like 3 of them all rank 500 on overall leaderboard and they only beat one difficulty, which is PERFECT AGENT! Even if it is I wouldn't want to get rank 1 without a firm confirmation.

Edit: It seems to me all the people had the crown even before attempting a speed run on perfect agent, I still want to test my theory though as soon as I'm done doing my Perfect Agent speed run.

Firelyte Stone
03-24-2010, 05:36 PM
Me neither .. leaving your xbox on for 12 days, no thanks =/ not to mention you'll need to get a wired controller or a recharge kit.

Edit: It seems to me all the people had the crown even before attempting a speed run on perfect agent, I still want to test my theory though as soon as I'm done doing my Perfect Agent speed run.


you persistent devil! i'll start doing the same then, right now ;)

I F0RG0T 2 WIPE
03-24-2010, 05:50 PM
Lol, you don't have to...

Firelyte Stone
03-24-2010, 05:51 PM
Lol, you don't have to...

We don't have any other leads atm so might as well XD I'll be watching everything I do during each mission, that way if I miraculously unlock the crown, I'll know what I did during the mission.

thechalkoutline
03-24-2010, 06:12 PM
Any chance it has something to do with Perfect Dark Zero? Having a save file for it unlocks cheats or some crap, so maybe having enough achievements from it and from this one combines to give you this award?

MEGA LOL if so.

Firelyte Stone
03-24-2010, 06:15 PM
Any chance it has something to do with Perfect Dark Zero? Having a save file for it unlocks cheats or some crap, so maybe having enough achievements from it and from this one combines to give you this award?

MEGA LOL if so.

I don't think they would have used a james bond quote if that was the case ;)

thechalkoutline
03-24-2010, 06:24 PM
I don't think they would have used a james bond quote if that was the case ;)

If it definitely has something to do with Bond and gamers have been unlocking it on different levels, maybe it doesn't have anything to do with a speed run or total score, maybe not even completing a level. Maybe it's just doing something on one of the levels (while playing PD difficulty) that is "James Bond" like.

Getting an enemy to say "hi" to you while under disguise, then immediately take out pistol and shoot them point blank or from behind?

AceMathias
03-24-2010, 06:26 PM
pretty sure its not to do with PDZ. I have it and have completed on perfect agent (admitedly not on dark), but it seems v unlikely.

BanditBanks
03-24-2010, 06:28 PM
WTF?

Has anyone else noticed that the Combat Simulator doesn't always save your stats?

I had 500 of each medal and all of a sudden I'm back to 200+!
My time was also at 1 day, now it's gone back to 23 hours, like I lost a whole hour of gameplay...

Firelyte Stone
03-24-2010, 06:29 PM
If it definitely has something to do with Bond and gamers have been unlocking it on different levels, maybe it doesn't have anything to do with a speed run or total score, maybe not even completing a level. Maybe it's just doing something on one of the levels (while playing PD difficulty) that is "James Bond" like.

Getting an enemy to say "hi" to you while under disguise, then immediately take out pistol and shoot them point blank or from behind?

Unfortunately, there are no opportunities for disguises in any of the levels that have been reported to unlock the crown :(

WTF?

Has anyone else noticed that the Combat Simulator doesn't always save your stats?

I had 500 of each medal and all of a sudden I'm back to 200+!
My time was also at 1 day, now it's gone back to 23 hours, like I lost a whole hour of gameplay...

Did you ever mess with your storage settings? I'm scared of that thing tbh.

I F0RG0T 2 WIPE
03-24-2010, 06:33 PM
I would't want to waste a lot of my time in combat sim, even though it makes perfect sense rank 1:Perfect, but nevertheless I would wait till a firm comfirmation of this lol till I throw my controller through the window and realising it's not getting rank 1.

BanditBanks
03-24-2010, 06:33 PM
Not at all.

After I last played on the Combat Sim, I played a few levels on Agent, getting a couple new times. So THOSE saved, but it seems that it doesn't like saving Combat stats.

I'm really angry at that, I don't feel like playing for what could potentially be 24 days. Leaving it on all night and day just to notice that none of it saved.

They did a good job of making PD, but seriously... Did they have NO play testers at all?

thechalkoutline
03-24-2010, 06:36 PM
Unfortunately, there are no opportunities for disguises in any of the levels that have been reported to unlock the crown :(
.

What are the reported levels? I might know enough about Bond to figure something out.

Reported levels may or may not help anyway if the people that got the award didn't notice for sure what level they got it on (or the award had a delay in popping up as some seem to).

BanditBanks
03-24-2010, 06:39 PM
First level, last level and the WAR! special assignment.

To be honest, I don't think this has a god damn thing related to James Bond, I'm probably wrong but I think the only connection is the title itself.

thechalkoutline
03-24-2010, 06:39 PM
They did a good job of making PD, but seriously... Did they have NO play testers at all?

I work in QA Testing and essentially it doesn't matter if bugs are found or not so long as they're not "blockers" (ie. game/program breaking) when it gets close to a deadline. The closer it gets to a deadline or release date, the more you focus on only fixing the major issues and everything else is pushed aside to get it out there. Very, very likely if this was tested that they were at least notified about it at some point but it wasn't important enough to be bothered with.

MasterNinja33
03-24-2010, 06:40 PM
LOL, This crown is going to make my brain explode. It sounds like everything has been tried. We all know it is probably something simple and when we do find out the criteria for it, we are all going to give a forehead slap and say "Are you F'N kidding me!"

I wish I had more time to try and get a Perfect: 1 rating in Combat Simulator to test that theory. But for now I will keep trying random stuff on Solo.

OniRyo
03-24-2010, 06:42 PM
Trust me it has nothing to do with Perfect Dark Zero, there are even some players who has the Crown that doesn't have Perfect Dark Zero, i have 1000 Gamerscore on Perfect Dark Zero and i didn't unlock it ;)

BanditBanks
03-24-2010, 06:48 PM
LOL, This crown is going to make my brain explode. It sounds like everything has been tried. We all know it is probably something simple and when we do find out the criteria for it, we are all going to give a forehead slap and say "Are you F'N kidding me!"

I wish I had more time to try and get a Perfect: 1 rating in Combat Simulator to test that theory. But for now I will keep trying random stuff on Solo.

Haha yeah, like finish a level with 007 bullets left in your pistol. Come to think of it, that hasn't been tried. But I'm not gonna test it, gonna try and get my Combat stats back up.

MasterNinja33
03-24-2010, 06:59 PM
I had the Perfect: 1 rating on the N64, because this was the only game I played all through college until Xbox and Halo came out.

It would have been cool to transfer this rating some magical way. I guess I got to go back to rubberbanding the analog stick overnight to get 9000km like I did on N64......sigh.....RROD here we come.

thechalkoutline
03-24-2010, 07:07 PM
Ok, did they get it upon completing the level?

I was thinking in the first one you could just kill Cassandra after she asks who you are, but that ruins the mission. Bond does have a license to kill and all...

I F0RG0T 2 WIPE
03-24-2010, 07:12 PM
Haha yeah, like finish a level with 007 bullets left in your pistol. Come to think of it, that hasn't been tried. But I'm not gonna test it, gonna try and get my Combat stats back up.

I just tested this it's a no go was kinda hard though since everytime I shot someones gun out of their hand, they pulled out their pistol and I killed them only to get more pistol ammo, and I killed every person in the level to make sure I could check my pistol ammo at the elevator on first mission.

Edit: This was on Perfect Agent by the way, and the level seems a breeze when you arn't speed running with only a pistol.

BanditBanks
03-24-2010, 07:13 PM
Oh well, it was worht a try.
Thanks for testing :)

This crown just doesn't wanna come out to play!
Yaaarrgghh.

I F0RG0T 2 WIPE
03-24-2010, 07:16 PM
to me, it seems 4j, and rare are lazy, they pretty much left the game how it is on the n64, with the same glitches and all, I guess they didn't want to fix what is not broken.

Edit: Probably too lazy to put in the descriptions for when you actually unlock a crown or did that on purpose to make it a scavenger hunt, I normally love scavenger hunts but this one isn't a walk in the park if you ask me.

Zee
03-24-2010, 07:27 PM
They kept the game as is because they wanted the strategies people used to get low times to stay the same. They just wanted to port it and update the game, but it does seem all the new stuff glitches too. So maybe they were lazy too.

edit: also, does anyone want to test the counter co-op idea? Message me if so.

Firelyte Stone
03-24-2010, 08:11 PM
They kept the game as is because they wanted the strategies people used to get low times to stay the same. They just wanted to port it and update the game, but it does seem all the new stuff glitches too. So maybe they were lazy too.

edit: also, does anyone want to test the counter co-op idea? Message me if so.

I don't think counter co-op is the right place. I highly doubt JS Joker was playing counter, from what I can tell, his main focus what getting a high score and time on every level, and then he stopped playing. Also, people don't get any points whatsoever when playing on counter, so it's clear that the people who do have the crown were in fact playing solo.

Off The WaLL
03-24-2010, 08:35 PM
what if you have to shot/find all the secret cheese?

weird uh?

YouTube- Perfect Dark Cheese Locations

Firelyte Stone
03-24-2010, 08:41 PM
what if you have to shot/find all the secret cheese?

weird uh?

YouTube- Perfect Dark Cheese Locations (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxqCIywF0xA)

Again, I don't think they would pair the secret cheese with a james bond quote.

I F0RG0T 2 WIPE
03-24-2010, 08:45 PM
what if you have to shot/find all the secret cheese?

weird uh?

YouTube- Perfect Dark Cheese Locations (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxqCIywF0xA)

Why in the world would it get the name "The names dark...perfect dark" if you had to find cheese rofl...

The BS Police
03-24-2010, 08:48 PM
what if you have to shot/find all the secret cheese? Impossible, some of the Cheese are only accessible by using cheats.

PuttyGod
03-24-2010, 09:24 PM
Hahah oh sweet jesus. Good luck trying to do that...


Oh does anybody have any tips for beating all of the Perfect Agent missions in less than 95 minutes? Because that is just fuckin absurd to me.

McMatholomew
03-24-2010, 09:43 PM
I say we get a carpool to Twycross, raid the Rareware building, and hold them hostage until they talk!

CressDX
03-24-2010, 09:47 PM
I say we get a carpool to Twycross, raid the Rareware building, and hold them hostage until they talk!

Yeah! In Perfect Dark style!

I CR0W I
03-24-2010, 09:51 PM
I say we get a carpool to Twycross, raid the Rareware building, and hold them hostage until they talk!

So we basically become the dataDyne to Rare's Carrington on the Villa mission?

So what happens when the police arrive and there's a dark haired female negotiator outside? We'd all be reduced to tears and shitting actual bricks. No thanks.

BanditBanks
03-24-2010, 09:53 PM
Yeah! In Perfect Dark style!

Yes!
Alerting half the building by flying to the rooftop, followed by an over the top forward roll only to be encountered by staff using cloaking devices.

TOO Taco Bob
03-24-2010, 10:03 PM
I don't believe this has been suggested and although I don't believe it will work, I still think it's worth a shot. Has anyone tried beating a level on Perfect Agent, while only killing 7 enemies? I can see this being done on War! and the first level, although not so sure about the last level.

Firelyte Stone
03-24-2010, 10:04 PM
Failed Attempts:
- Numerous variations involving the number 7 i.e. Headshots, shots fired, enemies killed, number on timer when mission finished, number on timer when objectives finished, number of bullets left upon finishing level.

WarlockSoL
03-24-2010, 10:17 PM
Failed Attempts:
- Numerous variations involving the number 7 i.e. Headshots, shots fired, enemies killed, number on timer when mission finished, number on timer when objectives finished, number of bullets left upon finishing level.

What about number of times the level was completed? (i.e. 7 "wins" on each level on Perfect Agent)

ZaketoX2
03-24-2010, 10:19 PM
Maybe its the score itself. Ive noticed some people can have fast times but low scores, and high scores but really slow completion times.
Maybe you have to get a certain amount of points overall.

Untitled Agent
03-24-2010, 10:36 PM
I was just thinking the same thing...
It could be glitched.

Let's look at the facts:
- Everyone who has it, doesn't know how they got it. Or they just bullshit us.
- This game has an incredible amount of glitchy areas since it was an N64 game and that didn't have top notch coding.
- Quite a few achievements aren't unlocking when they should be.
- The 'Prime Target' is unlocking when it shouldn't be.
- On one of the other forums a crown was unlocked from the wrong level. Even though that person already had that particular crown.

There is a chance it could be actually from getting to Rank 1:Perfect, but these people have had the game glitch and give them the crown.

I just don't know what to think anymore about this crown haha.

Hopefully we will get an update soon and maybe someone at 4J/Rare/Whatever will give us a helping hand.
i actually ended up finding another glitched crown after that (got bow to the audience on carrington villa and no help needed on the duel). so there's definately something weird going on with the crowns.

Firelyte Stone
03-24-2010, 10:38 PM
Maybe its the score itself. Ive noticed some people can have fast times but low scores, and high scores but really slow completion times.
Maybe you have to get a certain amount of points overall.

I have a higher score than the people with crowns :(

BanditBanks
03-24-2010, 10:44 PM
I know people are saying it's not viral but has anybody even asked if they could play with these guys?

I know the chances of it being viral are very slim and that doesn't explain how the first person got it. But we've all tried so many wacky variations that something is bound to work.

The guys who have it weren't even trying to unlock it, they were just going through Perfect Agent mode normally.

I can't wait to find out the real requirements for it, when that day comes we will all slap ourselves hard. Harder than a bitch slap from a Maian on crack.

I F0RG0T 2 WIPE
03-24-2010, 10:47 PM
Firelyte are you still trying the score on every mission, to excede JS Joker?

TOO Taco Bob
03-24-2010, 10:53 PM
I know this is a long shot, but has anyone actually tried asked 4j for a little hint? I doubt they would even reply, but might as well, at this point.

Incompl33t
03-24-2010, 10:57 PM
I've just been in a party with Everson, we had a great chat, and he told me exactly how he earned it, he said he played Skedar Ruins PA, normal run, but the only factor I hadn't tried was using only the Mauler on the leader, so as to be some sort of ironic twist. After literally squeezing every detail of his run, and not getting it, he told me it was very possible he headshotted 2+ Skedar with one High Impact Shell. Maybe it's a collateral damage on Perfect? This seems to make sense, as most guns don't penetrate more than 1 person, so you'd have to be incredibly lucky, and judging by the amount of people with it..

Firelyte Stone
03-24-2010, 11:01 PM
I have an idea. give me a few minutes.

//edit: you know what. i've died from the last skedar at the last king 9 times now. give me a few hours.

Maian philosophy: there's 7 skedar behind that door! let's run right up to it to ensure we get smacked instantly!

Incompl33t
03-24-2010, 11:06 PM
You're better off posting your idea, in case it works or not, so we can add it to failed, or the crown guide.

digitalink
03-24-2010, 11:38 PM
hey, just wanted to applaud some of you perfect dark pros who are not only dedicated, but have to skill to attempt all these crazy theories. you know who you are.

Incompl33t
03-24-2010, 11:42 PM
You can lock out getting a kill with every gun's primary and secondary function, and you can lock out getting a kill with every pistol by holding it sideways. I'm just trying completely random things now.

Firelyte Stone
03-24-2010, 11:46 PM
51 kills and 61 headshots on WAR!
nopeeeee!

Odds are i'm going to have an aneurysm from this soon.

Incompl33t
03-24-2010, 11:49 PM
51 kills and 61 headshots on WAR!
nopeeeee!

Odds are i'm going to have an aneurysm from this soon.


Yes, but did you get 2+ headshot KILLS in 1 shot?

bond109
03-24-2010, 11:49 PM
is it possible to get a double head shot with just one shot ive never known the weapons to penetrate in pd