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mwexford
04-03-2010, 08:09 PM
The Pants Party has provided locations for the weapons in this (http://www.xbox360achievements.org/forum/showthread.php?p=2921225) post.

Once you begin to acquire some of these weapons you'll probably begin to wonder which is better (i.e. higher base stats). In order see a weapons base stats, all items must be removed from that weapon. Doing so takes a bit of time and is not exactly fun. Below is a table that will allow you to easily compare the base stats of the weapons in your arsenal.

Please note that this is a work in progress and any input would be greatly appreciated. Perhaps The Pants Party could append the completed table to the post mentioned above.


HANDGUNS:

Attack Gauge Knock Charge Charge Rate of Bullet Mag.
Name Power Break back Speed Accel. Fire Focus Size Wt.
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B-N84 4 10 4 10 1% 56 88 8 245
1191.45-Auto 5 20 5 10 1% 46 85 6 255
SG-B226 4 12 4 15 2% 52 89 9 240
LP-09 4 13 4 30 3% 48 89 8 235
MI50A ? ? ? 25 4% 40 84 6 250
B-N84 Golden ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
1191.45 Gldn ? ? ? 40 10% 54 87 7 255
SB-B226 Gldn ? ? ? 40 10% 56 90 9 240

MACHINEGUNS:

Attack Gauge Knock Charge Charge Rate of Bullet Mag.
Name Power Break back Speed Accel. Fire Focus Size Wt.
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SMG-05 6 0 3 8 1% 77 75 12 260
PDW-XN.V2 7 0 3 20 4% 76 74 14 265
NP.05C 7 0 3 17 7% 76 75 13 270
PDW-XN.V3 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
NP.05 Golden ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Macho M.
04-04-2010, 08:38 AM
This is informative... but seriously, it's not about the base stats, it's about the parts you can attach. Some weapons are just horrible to modify (PDW-XN.V2 for example). Even if it has good starter stats, after modifications my SMG-05 is way better...

At the very least add weapon size too, some weapons are way bigger than others and thus end up worse after adding lots of attachments.

SpinelesS
04-04-2010, 10:06 AM
This is informative... but seriously, it's not about the base stats, it's about the parts you can attach. Some weapons are just horrible to modify (PDW-XN.V2 for example). Even if it has good starter stats, after modifications my SMG-05 is way better...

At the very least add weapon size too, some weapons are way bigger than others and thus end up worse after adding lots of attachments.

My PDW-XN.V2 kicks my SMG-05's ass... what was hard to modify?

Im only at the start of chapter 9, and both my machineguns could still do with a little upgrading but currently my SMG and PDW are:
(charge speed/charge Acceleration/rapid fire/bullet focus/clip size)

109/22%/82/79/24 SMG
195/22%/81/78/20 PDW

Macho M.
04-04-2010, 06:51 PM
My PDW-XN.V2 kicks my SMG-05's ass... what was hard to modify?

Im only at the start of chapter 9, and both my machineguns could still do with a little upgrading but currently my SMG and PDW are:
(charge speed/charge Acceleration/rapid fire/bullet focus/clip size)

109/22%/82/79/24 SMG
195/22%/81/78/20 PDW

I messed with my PDW and its stats are 224-36%-88-85-22 if I build it as a scoped design... Yup, you can upgrade it even more. Try getting that clip with two extensions when you can tho. Still, going for the same scoped design, I managed to squeeze out 269-34%-88-86-20 out of SMG. Two bullets do indeed make a difference, but I simply want to prove how easily stats can be shifted to SMGs favor...

But you should know that going for charge speed doesn't get you far. Surely, when you play a couple/a trio of weaklings, this is a perfect design. But I can say that you will have so much fun at Neverland...

I go for charge acceleration, full barrel design here. Ask anyone - at higher MG levels charge acceleration is much more important, especially because of higher full scratch and stun rates. You have probably faced Mad Goliaths by now... could've you done it without AP bullets? I could. You will be forced to fight quite stronger mobs in Neverland tho, and AP bullets will help little.

PDW2 blows because there's no way to add something between clip and grips. Its size of 14 squares limits the upgrading even more. That's why I hate it. Its charge acceleration is about more than 10% slower than SMGs if I rememeber well... Its only use is as secondary MG till you get all 5 Mgs... dump it then.

SpinelesS
04-05-2010, 01:03 AM
Yeah I realise Accel Is a big deal.

Yes I have faced Mad Goliath's, Im a big explorer so I have gone everywhere I can in this chapter :) Never used AP bullets, Im collecting them and buying up as many as I can in the Arena, but Im saving them for neverland.

Macho M.
04-05-2010, 12:30 PM
Well, good luck then.

To compensate for semi-spam in this topic, here are some stats

MI50A 25-4%-40-84-6-250
1191.45 Gldn 40-10%-54-87-7-255
SG-B226 Gldn 40-10%-56-90-9-240

I have no idea where you pull the attack stat from.

Xelian
04-05-2010, 01:25 PM
The attack stat is the top left stat, the one above charge speed I believe

SpinelesS
04-05-2010, 03:02 PM
Well, good luck then.

To compensate for semi-spam in this topic, here are some stats

MI50A 25-4%-40-84-6-250
1191.45 Gldn 40-10%-54-87-7-255
SG-B226 Gldn 40-10%-56-90-9-240

I have no idea where you pull the attack stat from.

You can see the 3 non modifyable stats (attack, gauge break, and knockdown) In the item and equip lists. They are above the modifyable ones.

Quick Question. Isnt the acceleration rate a % based on your acceleration speed (and therefor increasing you speed would increase your acceleration)