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I iMaTrix I
05-17-2010, 02:16 AM
Shown below is a possible method for getting the "Win Online World Cup With XX Rated Team" Achievement in a non-skill based way. It requires 8 people and a certain degree of concentration and education, but is still very easy none-the-less!

Tips
There are a few tips that are suggested in order to make this go faster;
1) Have a list of everyone's GamerTag's so you know who you are supposed to be matching up with.
2) Be in a party together so that ample communication is available
3) You SHOULD quit out of EVERY match after 5 IN-GAME MINUTES so that it registers as a game played and advances the other person.
4) Use the "assisted controls" configuration, shown below, to help when it comes to searching for your mates

Go to: Online World Cup Menu -> Settings -> Controls -> Assisted

Apart from these four tips, there's not much else you can do to help make things go smoother. So just follow the guide and you should have no problems.

Possible Method
Each person's role will be listed as P1, P2 etc, all the way up to P8, so that you can understand it better and to make it easier to assign roles if you decided to use it.

Now, for each achievement you obviously have to pick a team with a certain rating.. with this method only P1 will need to chose a team within the ratings of whatever achievement they are going for.

Step One: Getting P1 to the Semi Final & P5 to the Quarter Final

Group Stages: Part 1
P1 - P4 set up a group
P1 & P2 should come 1st/2nd respectively and advance to last 16
P3 & P4 should get ready for another group stage

At the same time;
P5 - P8 set up a group
P5 & P6 should come 1st/2nd respectively and advance to last 16
P7 & P8 should get ready for another group

P3, P4, P7 & P8 should now set up a group
P3 & P4 should come 1st/2nd respectively and advance to last 16
P7 & P8 should now wait

Last 16: Part 1 (As it stands)
We now have P1 - P6 in the last 16, who need to face off against each other, as shown;
P1 vs P2
P3 vs P4
P5 vs P6

P1, P3 & P5 should all progress (meaning they are in the quarter finals)

Quarter Finals: Part 1
We now need to set up the following so that P1 can advance;
P1 vs P3
P5 will remain waiting in the quarter finals

As it stands:
We should now have P1 in the semi finals and P5 still waiting in the quarter's
With this in place, we are ready to repeat the group stages again.

Step Two: Getting P1 to the Final

With P2 - P4 & P6 - P8 being left free, we are able to make another group

Group Stages: Part 2
P2 - P4 & P6 should set up a group (P1 & P5 unavailable due to already progressing)
P2 & P3 should come 1st/2nd respectively and advance to last 16
P4 & P6 should now wait, along with P7 & P8

Last 16: Part 2
We should now have 2 players in the last 16, matched up as shown;
P2 vs P3

P2 & P4 should win, advancing them to the quarter final and meeting up with P5 from earlier.

Quarter Final: Part 2
There should only be one match needed now;
P2 vs P5
.. in which P2 would advance, meeting P1 in the semi final

Semi-Final: Part 1
The match should be as follows;
P1 vs P2
.. in which P1 would advance leaving him in the final

Now that we have P1 in the Final, we have P2-P8 free again to work with. It is now a simple case of repeating the whole process but this time getting P2 to the final instead.
If you are struggling on how to do this, i'll repeat the process below but replacing the number to make it clearer.

Step Two (Repeated): Getting P2 to the Final

Group Stages: Part 1.1
P2 - P5 should set up a group
P2 & P3 should come 1st/2nd respectively and advance to the last 16
P4 & P5 should get ready for another group

Now, P4 - P7 should set up a group
P4 & P5 should come 1st/2nd respectively and advance to the last 16
P6 & P7 should now wait, along with P8

Last 16: Part 1.1
We now have 2 matches in the last 16 meaning we can get 1 more person to the semi finals;
P2 vs P3
P4 vs P5
P2 & P4 should advance to the quarter final where they would meet up

Quarter Final: Part 1.1 (As it stands)
P2 vs P4
P2 should advance to the semi's and wait

With P3 - P8 free again, it's a case of group stages once more.

Group Stages: Part 2.1
P3 - P6 should set up a group
P3 & P4 should come 1st/2nd respectively and advance to the last 16
P5 & P6 should get ready to create another group

P5 - P8 should set up a group
P5 & P6 should come 1st/2nd respectively and advance to the last 16
P7 & P8 will wait for now

Last 16: Part 2.1
We should now have another 2 matches in this round, as follows;
P3 vs P4
P5 vs P6
P3 & P5 should advance to the quarter final, where they would meet up

Quarter Final: Part 2.1
The match should be;
P3 vs P5
.. in which P3 would advance, meeting up with P2 who is already in the semi's

Semi Final: Part 1.1
P2 vs P3
P2 would advance here, who he would then meet in the final

Step Three: Getting P1 the Achievement
We should now have two people in the final, P1 & P2.. they would obviously match up as shown;
P1 vs P2
.. in which P1 would win and get their achievement!

That's it! The whole method!
I know it seems like a lot but once you put it into practise it'll be quite easy to pick up on. Just make sure that the group is in a party together and that you each have a list of everyone's GT's so that you know who to match up with (as mentioned in the tips).

Oh and REMEMBER
1) Quit out after 5 in-game minues
2) Use the "assisted controls" tip

Once you've done this for one person's achievement, rinse and repeat!

Credit to Flips360 & Nlkuysdf who've included important content to this method
And to SkinnyBin, who helped many others get the achievement his way!

:D

Cammy
05-17-2010, 11:39 PM
sounds REALLY confusing tbh lol , whos going to be the lucky person to be P1 lol :eek:

DmAuViIrD
05-18-2010, 12:45 AM
Wow some1 has to much time on there hands :) honestly i think it would be easier to actually play the 7 games to get the achievement on your own.

Personally ive gotten Honduras (3 star) to the final and lost on penalites to Spain, NZ (2 stars) to the semis and lost to Holland due to an OG, honestly if your skilled and patient enough (not playing the 5 stars teams until the semis) you should get this achievement on your own

and to answer your questions based on my experiences

1) Yes, as long as you quit after 5 minutes
2) Yes, as i do this all the time
3) No idea, but i think its rare to actually get the four guys playing each other in the same pool, as ive messaged other guys (as i saw there results in game) who told me they played England and Germany for their other two game when i played Mexico and India for my other two (1 of many examples)

Flips360
05-18-2010, 01:02 PM
To find each other everyone must do this.

In the online wc menu -> Settings -> Controls -> Assisted

Now the game is only searching for peoplay who are using this controls. You can also search for TwoButton, Semi-Assisted, Manual.

Thatīs the way I get my achievements, but winning using 3* team is missing^^.

SkinnyBin
05-18-2010, 02:05 PM
To find each other everyone must do this.

In the online wc menu -> Settings -> Controls -> Assisted

Now the game is only searching for peoplay who are using this controls. You can also search for TwoButton, Semi-Assisted, Manual.


This genuinely works? That would make it a doddle to match make as surely no-one online is using Two Button controls

Flips360
05-18-2010, 03:02 PM
You can also use assisted. It doesnīt matter which one you use and it works great.

SkinnyBin
05-18-2010, 03:50 PM
great find mate!

I iMaTrix I
05-18-2010, 08:06 PM
To find each other everyone must do this.

In the online wc menu -> Settings -> Controls -> Assisted

Now the game is only searching for peoplay who are using this controls. You can also search for TwoButton, Semi-Assisted, Manual.

Thatīs the way I get my achievements, but winning using 3* team is missing^^.

With that being said, you think that my original method would work? Now that you can search for people with certain button controls, P1-P8 could change to that meaning a better chance of matching up?

Like i say, i haven't got the game yet but if it works and helps some people then all is good! :)

Flips360
05-18-2010, 08:19 PM
I thnik this should work. We did it with 4 people and 8 accounts.

Nlkuysdf
05-22-2010, 08:00 PM
Shown below is a possible method for getting the "Win Online World Cup With XX Rated Team" Achievement in a non-skill based way. It requires 8 people and a certain degree of concentration and education, but is still very easy none-the-less!

Tips
There are a few tips that are suggested in order to make this go faster;
1) Have a list of everyone's GamerTag's so you know who you are supposed to be matching up with.
2) Be in a party together so that ample communication is available
3) You SHOULD quit out of EVERY match after 5 IN-GAME MINUTES so that it registers as a game played and advances the other person.
4) Use the "assisted controls" configuration, shown below, to help when it comes to searching for your mates

Go to: Online World Cup Menu -> Settings -> Controls -> Assisted

Apart from these four tips, there's not much else you can do to help make things go smoother. So just follow the guide and you should have no problems.

Possible Method
Each person's role will be listed as P1, P2 etc, all the way up to P8, so that you can understand it better and to make it easier to assign roles if you decided to use it.

Now, for each achievement you obviously have to pick a team with a certain rating.. with this method only P1 will need to chose a team within the ratings of whatever achievement they are going for.

Step One: Getting P1 to the Semi Final & P5 to the Quarter Final

Group Stages: Part 1
P1 - P4 set up a group
P1 & P2 should come 1st/2nd respectively and advance to last 16
P3 & P4 should get ready for another group stage

At the same time;
P5 - P8 set up a group
P5 & P6 should come 1st/2nd respectively and advance to last 16
P7 & P8 should get ready for another group

P3, P4, P7 & P8 should now set up a group
P3 & P4 should come 1st/2nd respectively and advance to last 16
P7 & P8 should now wait

Last 16: Part 1 (As it stands)
We now have P1 - P6 in the last 16, who need to face off against each other, as shown;
P1 vs P2
P3 vs P4
P5 vs P6

P1, P3 & P5 should all progress (meaning they are in the quarter finals)

Quarter Finals: Part 1
We now need to set up the following so that P1 can advance;
P1 vs P3
P5 will remain waiting in the quarter finals

As it stands:
We should now have P1 in the semi finals and P5 still waiting in the quarter's
With this in place, we are ready to repeat the group stages again.

Step Two: Getting P1 to the Final

With P2 - P4 & P6 - P8 being left free, we are able to make another group

Group Stages: Part 2
P2 - P4 & P6 should set up a group (P1 & P5 unavailable due to already progressing)
P2 & P3 should come 1st/2nd respectively and advance to last 16
P4 & P6 should now wait, along with P7 & P8

Last 16: Part 2
We should now have 2 players in the last 16, matched up as shown;
P2 vs P3

P2 & P4 should win, advancing them to the quarter final and meeting up with P5 from earlier.

Quarter Final: Part 2
There should only be one match needed now;
P2 vs P5
.. in which P2 would advance, meeting P1 in the semi final

Semi-Final: Part 1
The match should be as follows;
P1 vs P2
.. in which P1 would advance leaving him in the final

Now that we have P1 in the Final, we have P2-P8 free again to work with. It is now a simple case of repeating the whole process but this time getting P2 to the final instead.
If you are struggling on how to do this, i'll repeat the process below but replacing the number to make it clearer.

Step Two (Repeated): Getting P2 to the Final

Group Stages: Part 1.1
P2 - P5 should set up a group
P2 & P3 should come 1st/2nd respectively and advance to the last 16
P4 & P5 should get ready for another group

Now, P4 - P7 should set up a group
P4 & P5 should come 1st/2nd respectively and advance to the last 16
P6 & P7 should now wait, along with P8

Last 16: Part 1.1
We now have 2 matches in the last 16 meaning we can get 1 more person to the semi finals;
P2 vs P3
P4 vs P5
P2 & P4 should advance to the quarter final where they would meet up

Quarter Final: Part 1.1 (As it stands)
P2 vs P4
P2 should advance to the semi's and wait

With P3 - P8 free again, it's a case of group stages once more.

Group Stages: Part 2.1
P3 - P6 should set up a group
P3 & P4 should come 1st/2nd respectively and advance to the last 16
P5 & P6 should get ready to create another group

P5 - P8 should set up a group
P5 & P6 should come 1st/2nd respectively and advance to the last 16
P7 & P8 will wait for now

Last 16: Part 2.1
We should now have another 2 matches in this round, as follows;
P3 vs P4
P5 vs P6
P3 & P5 should advance to the quarter final, where they would meet up

Quarter Final: Part 2.1
The match should be;
P3 vs P5
.. in which P3 would advance, meeting up with P2 who is already in the semi's

Semi Final: Part 1.1
P2 vs P3
P2 would advance here, who he would then meet in the final

Step Three: Getting P1 the Achievement
We should now have two people in the final, P1 & P2.. they would obviously match up as shown;
P1 vs P2
.. in which P1 would win and get their achievement!

That's it! The whole method!
I know it seems like a lot but once you put it into practise it'll be quite easy to pick up on. Just make sure that the group is in a party together and that you each have a list of everyone's GT's so that you know who to match up with (as mentioned in the tips).

Oh and REMEMBER
1) Quit out after 5 in-game minues
2) Use the "assisted controls" tip

Once you've done this for one person's achievement, rinse and repeat!

Credit to Flips360 & Nlkuysdf who've included important content to this method
And to SkinnyBin, who helped many others get the achievement his way!

:D

Change the underlined to this and it should be good:

P2 - P4 & P6 should set up a group (P1 & P5 unavailable due to already progressing)
P2 & P3 should come 1st/2nd respectively and advance to last 16
P4 & P6 should now start another group with P7 & P8

P4 & P6 should come 1st/2nd respectively and advance to last 16

Last 16: Part 2
We should now have 4 players in the last 16, matched up as shown;
P2 vs P3
P4 vs P6

P2 & P4 should win, advancing them to the quarter final and meeting up with P5 from earlier.

I bolded and enlarged what I think should be changed/added

I iMaTrix I
05-22-2010, 08:21 PM
Change the underlined to this and it should be good:

P2 - P4 & P6 should set up a group (P1 & P5 unavailable due to already progressing)
P2 & P3 should come 1st/2nd respectively and advance to last 16
P4 & P6 should now start another group with P7 & P8

P4 & P6 should come 1st/2nd respectively and advance to last 16

Last 16: Part 2
We should now have 4 players in the last 16, matched up as shown;
P2 vs P3
P4 vs P6

P2 & P4 should win, advancing them to the quarter final and meeting up with P5 from earlier.

I bolded and enlarged what I think should be changed/added

Would we really need P4 to advance as well though?
P1 is already in the Semi's & P5 is already in the quarter's, like so;
Last 16: ?? vs ??
Quarter's: ?? vs P5
Semi's: P1 vs ??
Final: ?? vs ??

If we only got P2 & P3 through it would work out like so;
Last 16: P2 vs P3
Quarter's: P2 vs P5
Semi's: P1 vs P2
Final: P1

You get what i mean? I can't see any advantage of P4 advancing, cause we'd need him to quit out of the tournament anyways to make the groups ready to get P2 to the final

Nlkuysdf
05-23-2010, 05:47 AM
You're right. What confused me was that you wrote players 2 & 4 advance to quarter finals. so i figure 4 & 6 had to get to final 16. Forget what I mentioned and just delete where it says players 2&4 advance. It should read player 2 advances, only.

Maná
05-29-2010, 03:10 PM
Im up to help to get the achieve

CRMG
06-02-2010, 05:42 PM
Me too...

Have won it with Wales... just got to the final with CONGO!!! before losing 5-1 to Ivory Coast... losing patience a bit especially with Red Dead and Alan Wake on the shelf ready to get played! :uzi: