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Method
06-28-2010, 04:38 AM
Discuss the achievements, when they are revealed, in this thread.

mikachu93
07-22-2010, 08:00 PM
Probably jumping the gun here, but I hope we don't see too many Pro achievements. I'm going to be getting all the Pro accessories as soon as my budget allows, but I don't think it's right to require people to buy at least $300 worth of instruments for 15G. If anything, a "Beat any song on any Pro instrument" and a "100% any song with any Pro instrument" would be ideal, since I expect a lot of people to go out and buy at least the keyboard.

TwistedFate
07-22-2010, 09:18 PM
I bet we see at least 6 achievements for Pro Mode. "Finish a song in Pro-Mode on X instrument." for the 5 instruments and at least 1 100% or "Gold Star on Expert Pro Mode" achievement. Possibly a Pro-Mode Harmonies achieve, a Pro-Mode tutorials/beat trainer achieve and a complete the tour in Pro-Mode achieve. Also look forward to Pro-Mode Challenges complete with potential achieves.

I don't know if we'll get all of those, but I can pretty much gaurantee you won't be able to 1K the game without playing every instrument in Pro-mode.

HMX doesn't care about your GamerScore nearly as much as you do. And even though EA has gotten a lot less "evil" lately, they still LOVE money and I know they want you to buy the peripherals. Why go to the expense of developing and producing Pro-Mode accessories if they aren't going to try and sell them?

Firvagor
07-22-2010, 09:21 PM
I agree, especially with (supposedly?) no "special edition" with all pro instruments at launch, which would be expensive anyway. Then again I'm making assumptions based on what's being bundled and what's only available separately.

I wouldn't be surprised if they had a couple keyboard-specific achievements, too.

mikachu93
07-22-2010, 09:52 PM
HMX doesn't care about your GamerScore nearly as much as you do. And even though EA has gotten a lot less "evil" lately, they still LOVE money and I know they want you to buy the peripherals. Why go to the expense of developing and producing Pro-Mode accessories if they aren't going to try and sell them?
Harmonix has usually kept the achievements pretty, you know, achievable. Maybe two achievements per game that I will never get without some trial and error (though that's just me).

Still, I won't be surprised if they include the achievements either. Like I said, I won't be getting them right away, but I still plan on getting them all eventually. It won't matter to me in the end, but it just seems like way too much to expect for such little return.

TwistedFate
07-22-2010, 10:41 PM
Harmonix has usually kept the achievements pretty, you know, achievable.

Really? Have you forgotten that they required you to buy their guitar for the Solo Button achievement? Or maybe you overlooked the fact that they required you to buy a drum set for the drum achievement?

but it just seems like way too much to expect for such little return.

If the only value you see added is a few measly points added to a number that nobody but you cares about, then you have a perspective issue. Like I said, HMX doesn't care about your GamerScore. They care about putting about a good product that you WANT TO PLAY FOR THE JOY OF PLAYING IT, not just because it pads your ePeen.

They don't expect you to buy the instruments for the achievements, nobody would think that, because it's ridiculous to think that people will pay so much for something so meaningless. They expect you to buy them to enhance their product. The achievement is just a small reward. Remember kids, Achievements = Reward for gaming. Achievements != Reason for gaming.

mikachu93
07-23-2010, 01:12 AM
Really? Have you forgotten that they required you to buy their guitar for the Solo Button achievement? Or maybe you overlooked the fact that they required you to buy a drum set for the drum achievement?



If the only value you see added is a few measly points added to a number that nobody but you cares about, then you have a perspective issue. Like I said, HMX doesn't care about your GamerScore. They care about putting about a good product that you WANT TO PLAY FOR THE JOY OF PLAYING IT, not just because it pads your ePeen.

They don't expect you to buy the instruments for the achievements, nobody would think that, because it's ridiculous to think that people will pay so much for something so meaningless. They expect you to buy them to enhance their product. The achievement is just a small reward. Remember kids, Achievements = Reward for gaming. Achievements != Reason for gaming.
I may have phrased my last few posts incorrectly. I know what you're saying, though, and I have to agree (mostly because it's hard to argue fact).

TwistedFate
07-23-2010, 01:28 AM
I may have phrased my last few posts incorrectly. I know what you're saying, though, and I have to agree (mostly because it's hard to argue fact).

Well, I did get that you, personally, aren't doing it JUST for the achievements, but I pounced on a few places where you misspoke because it's a pet peeve of mine when people send the message that achievements are the only thing of value in a game. It's hard to talk about achievements on this site without coming across that way sometimes, though.

mikachu93
07-23-2010, 02:18 AM
Well, I did get that you, personally, aren't doing it JUST for the achievements, but I pounced on a few places where you misspoke because it's a pet peeve of mine when people send the message that achievements are the only thing of value in a game. It's hard to talk about achievements on this site without coming across that way sometimes, though.
Understandably.

Personally, I'm all about those gamer points, but being able to say that I can now play The Hardest Button to Button, Roundabout, and Rainbow in the Dark on a real guitar and a real bass (all while getting these gamer points) is probably the best part about this game.

Gamerdude5448
07-26-2010, 08:59 PM
I just wish there was one for achievement for pressing start...

PHSx2010
08-02-2010, 07:20 PM
Does anybody know typically how close to release date the acheivements are revealed? Or how have they been with past RB games. This game has really intrigued me as far as acheivements go with the new modes this year.

Vegivo
08-12-2010, 02:28 PM
Does anyone know how the site gets the achievements?Im hearing the RB3 achievement list might be fake....

SnowSHOWERS
08-12-2010, 02:36 PM
Does anyone know how the site gets the achievements?Im hearing the RB3 achievement list might be fake....

Well the x360a moderators do a lot of looking into it after receiving a tip, they sometimes wait up to a week to be certain and confirm the list so i highly doubt that.

OT: They only achievements on here that piss me off are the pro bass ones because i play bass and think i could easily get them but they are only making a pro guitar and my fingers can't strum on 4 of 6 tiny strings i need my fat bass strings to grip!

Vegivo
08-12-2010, 03:03 PM
Still some of those achievements look like DLC ones as well and I hate that i will have to buy the PRO guitar but oh well i will get it when it gets cheap :P

ponypo2001
08-12-2010, 03:17 PM
Well the x360a moderators do a lot of looking into it after receiving a tip, they sometimes wait up to a week to be certain and confirm the list so i highly doubt that.

OT: They only achievements on here that piss me off are the pro bass ones because i play bass and think i could easily get them but they are only making a pro guitar and my fingers can't strum on 4 of 6 tiny strings i need my fat bass strings to grip!

I hear you 110% mate. I'm a bass player too in real life and I'm not sure playing bass on 6 thin strings is going to cut it. If they bring out a compatable bass guitar or a lead to hook a real one up I'll be over it like flies on shit.

Must admit, the list as a whole is very poor due to it's reliance on buying DLC to max out. Doesn't affect me or lot's of other RB fans in the slightest but it will piss a lot of people off and I personally don't like the trend that's starting.

Arcanon
08-12-2010, 03:23 PM
The total comes up to 1250, and the DLC achievements come up to 250, so they're not needed for a full 1000. It's a nice bonus to those of us who have DLC and play it often, and it won't cost anything to play all the free songs. So they're really no different than other games that have DLC achievements.

I rather like this list. I hope it's real.

HeyRiles
08-12-2010, 04:13 PM
List is decidedly fake. There's no new artwork, RB2 artwork is used in a third of the achievements, there are RB1 tutorial pictures in achievements, it's literally impossible to get over 12 million points in a song, video games, by rule of Microsoft, are NOT allowed to start a game on-disc with over 1000 gamerscore, and there's no mention of the spiritual successor of the bladder of steel, which has been mentioned before by Dan Teasdale, lead designer of the game

So, yeah. Argue against me all you want and then disappear from the argument when it turns out to be fake

toops
08-12-2010, 04:36 PM
List is decidedly fake. There's no new artwork, RB2 artwork is used in a third of the achievements, there are RB1 tutorial pictures in achievements, it's literally impossible to get over 12 million points in a song, video games, by rule of Microsoft, are NOT allowed to start a game on-disc with over 1000 gamerscore, and there's no mention of the spiritual successor of the bladder of steel, which has been mentioned before by Dan Teasdale, lead designer of the game

So, yeah. Argue against me all you want and then disappear from the argument when it turns out to be fake first off, i know who you are from the rock band forums and i'm not trying to pick a fight here, i'm playing devil's advocate.
art: from what we've seen of rock band 3, there is no art, it's all your characters and the overshell, if anything the reused art (the tiger, elephant, and dlc truck driver guys) have all been staples of the series, like how there's a lego tiger in lego rock band so it's not too ridiculous to be reusing that stuff.
starting over 1000: like someone said up there, this site is really reliable when it comes to getting the achievement lists, and they're more than often not the first to put them up because they go out of the way to confirm its legitimacy. it could've been up for a while at 1000 and since they haven't gone beyond 1000 in other games microsoft knows they have a ton of dlc for the platform so they must've given to 'go ahead'
bladder ach: there's nothing directly stated in this list, but there's a few in here that easily could be, like the ones that need every spade thing. we don't know how hard those are and how long these sets are, some need 90 stars so they're up there. who knows maybe there's a spade for not failing or something
and for the 12 mil: i highly doubt that means in one song, if anything it's combined on disc scores or a set that's battle of the bands esque where the score keeps compiling through the songs, plus it's a reference to alex rigopulos.
anyway those are my counterpoints

preppypoof
08-12-2010, 04:42 PM
List is decidedly fake. There's no new artwork, RB2 artwork is used in a third of the achievements, there are RB1 tutorial pictures in achievements, it's literally impossible to get over 12 million points in a song, video games, by rule of Microsoft, are NOT allowed to start a game on-disc with over 1000 gamerscore, and there's no mention of the spiritual successor of the bladder of steel, which has been mentioned before by Dan Teasdale, lead designer of the game

So, yeah. Argue against me all you want and then disappear from the argument when it turns out to be fake

Counterpoints:

- are you insane? no new artwork? point to me ONE achievement that has no new artwork for it.
- the game does NOT have 1000 gamerscore on disc. there are 1000 on disc, and 250 which can only be obtained if you download content.
- it does not say "12 million in one song", it simply says 12 million. maybe that means 12 million career score, maybe that means you can get 12 million in one setlist, or something else. or maybe they changed the scoring system (as they said they have increased score bonuses for pro instruments), or maybe playing with 5 instruments + 2 vocal harmonists makes it possible to get 12 million points!
- you don't even know what the road challenges are. maybe one of them has a "bladder of steel"-esque requirement.

i'm not saying that the list is 100% real, but to be so sure that it's not when you have NO idea is just arrogant.

edit: darn toops beat me to it

toops
08-12-2010, 05:05 PM
edit: darn toops beat me to it haha sorry. but to clarify i think for art heyriles was talking about stock images used in the achievements pictures not the achievement pictures themselves, which are obviously new, but the things they used to make them mostly aren't

HeyRiles
08-12-2010, 05:16 PM
Yeah I was talking about how a lot of the achievements use the RB2 art (the tiger, for instance, is RB2 artwork, and therefore would be silly to be used in RB3 since all the games have got their own separate achievement artwork). I don't see any achievements in there that even alludes to any new artwork in RB3. They used the icon for Jet Setter for two achievements, even. Frankly, I would be very surprised if there wasn't an achievement icon with the new Spades feature. If you can show me an achievement with any new artwork that would be used in RB3 (like the skulls in RB2 achievements), then by all means, show me

12 million points isn't possible in a single song, since vocals won't be scored when all four other instruments are being played, and the keyboard will have a decidedly lower score than vocals - vocals always has the highest score for a band. It could be in a career, but it would have specifically stated it was in a career mode

For artwork again, I can point you to several without new artwork:
http://www.xbox360achievements.org/images/achievements/1388/UP-qIl0=.jpg
http://www.xbox360achievements.org/images/achievements/1388/UPuoMTc=.jpg
http://www.xbox360achievements.org/images/achievements/1388/UPjwOd4=.jpg
http://www.xbox360achievements.org/images/achievements/1388/UPha+Q0=.jpg
http://www.xbox360achievements.org/images/achievements/1388/UP4549I=.jpg
http://www.xbox360achievements.org/images/achievements/1388/UP-ZG0E=.jpg
http://www.xbox360achievements.org/images/achievements/1388/UPp78Lg=.jpg

And that's not even all of them, heh

Other things to consider involve why there aren't any achievements mentioning online play, such as RB1 and RB2. There's also going to be more to the game than just the small challenges - there isn't a single mention of the world tour mode anywhere, so there's no reason to even play it*

I do have an idea that it's fake, and that's why I say it's fake. There's nothing arrogant about it. In fact, it's more arrogant to believe this site is always right all the time. I always passed my tests, but then I failed a test

*EDIT: Aside from Endless Setlist III. But all the other games (LEGO included) have additional achievements to its World Tour

Garbar05
08-12-2010, 05:22 PM
The only problem I have with the DLC achievements is that some require you to have a certain song. Looks like for the full 1250 you'll have to buy "The Perfect Drug", any Queen song, any Boston song, 3 Harmonix Band songs, a few songs with Dave Grohl (depending on what the finalized RB3 setlist is) and at least 20 DLC (which I'm sure most of us have anyway so this one doesn't bother me.)

The problem I see with these is that music is based on personal taste and, (even though no one's forcing anyone to buy the DLC to get a few Gamerscore), DLC achievements for music games should have been all like the ones that let you play any DLC song, or none at all.


On a side note, how funny is it that the achievement 'Play a Real Guitar Already!' is for Pro Guitar on a White Stripes song?

Jordan0123
08-12-2010, 05:31 PM
One achievement I definitely won't have or want to have is the Dave Grohl Band achievement, I have none of his shitty bands' songs as DLC and I also deleted the Foo Fighters song I exported from Rock Band 1, so yeah, goodbye 1250. And I pray that there aren't 5 songs from his bands on disc.

ponypo2001
08-12-2010, 05:49 PM
I can pretty much promise you that list ain't fake unless it April the 1st and nobody told me. In the years I've been here, I've never known a "fake" list posted on this site ever. I'll be happy to admit if I'm wrong but I am almost certain that the person calling it fake will be the one who has to take things back.

mikachu93
08-12-2010, 05:57 PM
This is definitely not a typical Rock Band achievement list, like Riles said. There's only a handful of suspicions, but that's still a handful too many.

One achievement I definitely won't have or want to have is the Dave Grohl Band achievement, I have none of his shitty bands' songs as DLC and I also deleted the Foo Fighters song I exported from Rock Band 1, so yeah, goodbye 1250. And I pray that there aren't 5 songs from his bands on disc.
If you've exported Lego and if you plan on exporting Rock Band 2, you'll have Everlong, Breakout, Drain You, In Bloom, Go with the Flow, and Dead End Friends.

I don't know where the hate is coming from.

Der Nacho
08-12-2010, 06:20 PM
I was gonna say that Nirvana still kicks ass. Plus Them crooked Vultures has a dlc song and a song on disc. These are two bands he was just the drummer. So maybe now he can chill the hell out.

TwistedFate
08-12-2010, 06:41 PM
12 million points isn't possible in a single song,

What is the highest possible score in a single song?

and the keyboard will have a decidedly lower score than vocals

I assume you can provide proof of this.

toops
08-12-2010, 06:54 PM
What is the highest possible score in a single song?



I assume you can provide proof of this. A)with a full on expert pro band at a rounded up max maybe 5mil. there's no way you could get 12mil in one song. but the fact that there's an an achievement that says get a 1mil on one song and this one just says 12mil i assume it's career totals or something along that line.

B)it's been noted through various demos and videos. i played it multiple times at sdcc if you want my credibility.

i believe this achievement list is real but i'm just trying to explain the reasoning of a fellow hardcore fan

p.s. braid rules, nice avatar lol

preppypoof
08-12-2010, 07:19 PM
A)with a full on expert pro band at a rounded up max maybe 5mil. there's no way you could get 12mil in one song. but the fact that there's an an achievement that says get a 1mil on one song and this one just says 12mil i assume it's career totals or something along that line.

theoretical max for Let There Be Rock (Live version) is just shy of 5,000,000, and that's with all four band members hitting every single note on expert, using star power flawlessly, etc, on a 8-9 minute song. so, i HIGHLY doubt that this "12 million" achievement is meant to be on one song (especially with the other achievement already, as you said).

HOWEVER. With the addition of the keyboard, it is safe to assume that instead of having an 8X band multiplier, a 10X multiplier is now possible. Add that to the addition of vocal harmonies and I bet that there will be a song that has around a 10 million upper limit.

Dustinator
08-12-2010, 07:54 PM
List is interesting. Very different. LOLed at the Dave Grohl ones.......the DLC ones are interesting too. Nice to see hmx is including more points past 1,000

TwistedFate
08-12-2010, 07:56 PM
A)with a full on expert pro band at a rounded up max maybe 5mil. there's no way you could get 12mil in one song. but the fact that there's an an achievement that says get a 1mil on one song and this one just says 12mil i assume it's career totals or something along that line.

I don't think your wrong, but as long as there still some songs that haven't been announced, it can't be said that 12 mill is impossible in one song. There are some 20+ minute epics out there that could easily break 12 mill. (I don't think we are getting any, but they do exist) I think it means career score myself for the same reasons you do.

B)it's been noted through various demos and videos. i played it multiple times at sdcc if you want my credibility.

I don't doubt what you are saying, but I don't know you yet. Just showing up and spouting seemingly unknowable statements as if they are facts with nothing to back them up, just makes me ask questions. You say you've played it, that's good enough for now.

i believe this achievement list is real but i'm just trying to explain the reasoning of a fellow hardcore fan

As odd as some of them sound, I believe the list is real too. I believe it's real because x360a has a long standing policy of not posting the list until they are confirmed in some way. I see some things that strike me as bizarre but HMX tries to mix things up according to what fans want, and some of those look like they are trying to strike a balance between RB and GH style achievements.



HOWEVER. With the addition of the keyboard, it is safe to assume that instead of having an 8X band multiplier, a 10X multiplier is now possible. Add that to the addition of vocal harmonies and I bet that there will be a song that has around a 10 million upper limit.

Vocals are not scored when 4 other instruments are being played, 8x is still the max multiplier.

SnowSHOWERS
08-12-2010, 07:56 PM
I hear you 110% mate. I'm a bass player too in real life and I'm not sure playing bass on 6 thin strings is going to cut it. If they bring out a compatable bass guitar or a lead to hook a real one up I'll be over it like flies on shit.

Exactly how i feel. I would love it if they made a 5 string bass controller because i love the ability to use the B string and just make everything growl with my warrick thumb 5 so i'd buy the real thing if they make one for this but if feel that solely bass players are a hard audience to sell too since they are few and far between :/

HeyRiles
08-12-2010, 08:18 PM
What is the highest possible score in a single song?



I assume you can provide proof of this.

Highest possible score as of now is, I think, the Who Super Bowl S-Mashup, clocking in at 3,500,000 (http://rockbandscores.com/leader.cgi?type=SONG&sid=superbowlmedley&game=ALL&platform=ALL&instrument=BAND). I think that song is about 12 minutes long. Even with a 20-minute epic (which, really, how many of those will be on disc?), that's not nearly enough time to add an additional 9 million points to a score. You can't factor in keyboard either, because when the four instruments are added, vocals isn't scored in a full band, and on top of that, vocals almost always has the highest individual score of any song

I can provide evidence that would suggest proof, yes

http://www.rockband.com/files/rb/2010/08/roadchallenges31.jpg

Yeah it's on hard, but you would have a hard time convincing me that a keyboards song on expert would outdo 280,000 points on vocals. It would be silly to think that keys would have a larger point total (100 points per note) than guitar and drums per note

And yeah it could mean career score, but I'm pretty sure it would specify as 'career score' in the achievement, as other achievements have said in the past

TwistedFate
08-12-2010, 08:37 PM
I think that song is about 12 minutes long. Even with a 20-minute epic (which, really, how many of those will be on disc?), that's not nearly enough time to add an additional 9 million points to a score.

It can be if you realize that note density is a bigger factor than raw song length. Again, I don't think you are wrong, for now, but you are just throwing something out there as fact with a good chance that you won't be proven wrong. You are saying it's impossible, but you don't know that. It was impossible to break the sound barrier until some one did it.


I can provide evidence that would suggest proof, yes

http://www.rockband.com/files/rb/2010/08/roadchallenges31.jpg

Seriously? You are going to offer up a keyboard lite song as proof? As I said earlier, I don't doubt it, but I Love Rock & Roll is not a good proof, IMHO.

And yeah it could mean career score, but I'm pretty sure it would specify as 'career score' in the achievement, as other achievements have said in the past

Turning your logic back on you, we could say that if it was one song it would say "one song" as the other achievement in that list does.

Plus lets add the fact that it specifically says "a Rock Band 3 score" indicating that the score it is looking for covers all of RB3. Which means it does say "career" just not in those specifics words.

T-Hybrid
08-12-2010, 10:08 PM
HMX doesn't care about your GamerScore nearly as much as you do.
HMX is pushing the new Pro Mode, so it was crazy to think they wouldn't put some Pro achievements in there. Now, I'm a bit surprised that they put more than one per instrument...but at least with Pro-Keys you don't have to buy a NEW guitar controller. Just buy the bundle and BAM you've got those achievements taken care of.

HMX had similiar things when they introduced Harmonies in The Beatles. There were two achievements that required you hit EVERY SINGLE HARMONY PART in the game. Then following feedback they tweaked it for Green Day and RB3 to only require it on one song (or in this case a specific song).

My guess is that since Pro mode is new, they really want to encourage people to go out there and try it. And for those who want the achievements you hope they'll not only try it...but enjoy it enough to continue pushing on to complete songs and more complicated lessons.

As far as the 12 million point achievement, I point you to this article (http://www.rockband.com/zine/road_challenges) they posted the other day about Road Challenges. Some of them feature different challenges that you can meet in game in order to gain more points (or possibly more mulitplyer). Smart usage of these with the right players/difficulties will likely generate higher scores than possible in standard band play.

Overall it's a pretty solid achievement list. At first glance it doesn't seem that hard. The only tricky part will be getting the additional instruments/songs if you want to get 100%.

Jordan0123
08-13-2010, 12:53 AM
This is definitely not a typical Rock Band achievement list, like Riles said. There's only a handful of suspicions, but that's still a handful too many.


If you've exported Lego and if you plan on exporting Rock Band 2, you'll have Everlong, Breakout, Drain You, In Bloom, Go with the Flow, and Dead End Friends.

I don't know where the hate is coming from.

Yeah, I deleted In Bloom too, and Lego RB wasn't my game - my friend had already used the export code too, so I couldn't export, as for RB 2 I traded it in a long time ago, even if I'd have kept it and exported songs I would've deleted Drain You and Everlong same for Breakout on LRB lol. I think I did the same with The Killers from RB 1 too.
Also from my knowledge, he attempted to play drums on No One Knows and not Go with the Flow, correct me if I'm wrong though.

mikachu93
08-13-2010, 01:27 AM
Also from my knowledge, he attempted to play drums on No One Knows and not Go with the Flow, correct me if I'm wrong though.
I wouldn't know. I'm not really all that into the band myself. I'd Google it, but I'm too lazy to do it through my iPod.

All I want to know is, if this list is real, how is the game supposed to know what bands Dave Grohl has been a part of? I know for a fact the band members are not listed in the codes.

oO Triple G Oo
08-13-2010, 01:43 AM
I wouldn't know. I'm not really all that into the band myself. I'd Google it, but I'm too lazy to do it through my iPod.

All I want to know is, if this list is real, how is the game supposed to know what bands Dave Grohl has been a part of? I know for a fact the band members are not listed in the codes.It seems pretty simple, though. They can tell the game what songs do feature him, and hardwire it into the achievement codes. If they can call out a specific song like The Perfect Drug, and even still, make challenges based on specific songs, why can't they do the same for songs they know feature Dave Grohl?

EDIT: After looking at the achievement again, it clearly says "Any band that has had Dave Grohl as a member". Makes a lot more sense now, doesn't it?

T-Hybrid
08-13-2010, 01:48 AM
All I want to know is, if this list is real, how is the game supposed to know what bands Dave Grohl has been a part of? I know for a fact the band members are not listed in the codes.
Have a running in-game counter that ticks each time you play a different song from a band that Grohl is/was a member of. This would then be displayed in a tracking screen similar to those used in the Beatles and Green Day titles.

This could include the Foo Fighters, Queens of the Stone Age, Nirvana, and Them Crooked Vultures. There's three in RB1, two in RB2 and so far one in RB3. So if you've been doing the exports alone as RB has gone along you're set to go.

EDIT: After re-reading the above post, you could potentially include Tenacious D as well.

TwistedFate
08-13-2010, 01:50 AM
All I want to know is, if this list is real, how is the game supposed to know what bands Dave Grohl has been a part of? I know for a fact the band members are not listed in the codes.


Psudocode:
loop through all songs played by gamer
{
if song == band featuring Dave Grohl
counter = counter + 1
}

if counter >= 5 unlock achievement

mikachu93
08-13-2010, 02:01 AM
It seems pretty simple, though. They can tell the game what songs do feature him, and hardwire it into the achievement codes. If they can call out a specific song like The Perfect Drug, and even still, make challenges based on specific songs, why can't they do the same for songs they know feature Dave Grohl?

EDIT: After looking at the achievement again, it clearly says "Any band that has had Dave Grohl as a member". Makes a lot more sense now, doesn't it?

Have a running in-game counter that ticks each time you play a different song from a band that Grohl is/was a member of. This would then be displayed in a tracking screen similar to those used in the Beatles and Green Day titles.

This could include the Foo Fighters, Queens of the Stone Age, Nirvana, and Them Crooked Vultures. There's three in RB1, two in RB2 and so far one in RB3. So if you've been doing the exports alone as RB has gone along you're set to go.

EDIT: After re-reading the above post, you could potentially include Tenacious D as well.


Psudocode:
loop through all songs played by gamer
{
if song == band featuring Dave Grohl
counter = counter + 1
}

if counter >= 5 unlock achievement

Answers my question.

Fire Mage
08-13-2010, 08:11 PM
I really REALLY REALLY hope this list is fake.

It's horrible. Beyond horrible.

paynexkiller
08-14-2010, 09:11 PM
I really REALLY REALLY hope this list is fake.

It's horrible. Beyond horrible.
I agree with Emofag.

jyj705
08-15-2010, 03:14 AM
im just jacked that they are going passed 1000, i can get most of these

SnowSHOWERS
08-17-2010, 05:52 PM
I personally don't find this list that bad at all i really don't see what all the bitchin is about. GET OVER IT! Especially HeyRiles for doubting this site and their dedication to confirming the achievements before posting it. x360a isn't always the first site with the official list up because they want to make sure what they are posting is 100% correct so fuck off...

mikachu93
08-17-2010, 07:27 PM
I personally don't find this list that bad at all i really don't see what all the bitchin is about. GET OVER IT! Especially HeyRiles for doubting this site and their dedication to confirming the achievements before posting it. x360a isn't always the first site with the official list up because they want to make sure what they are posting is 100% correct so fuck off...
Someone sounds cranky today.

I doubted the achievement list, too. The list was questionable. The list looked suspicious. We've already discussed this to death, and there's no need to start something because you decided it's time to revive the flamefest.

hazemonster
08-25-2010, 01:18 PM
I can't believe this. Rockband finally comes up with a decent cheev list, and they taint it by requiring you to purchase hundreds of dollars in equipment to complete! Fuck pro instruments! I already own a real guitar and I enjoy playing it, but I play GH and RB for FUN because they're GAMES! And to top it off, there's no bundle available at release. I was really amped about the keyboard and some of the tracks and cheevs,but now I'm worried that if I am sucked in to buying all of the extras it will sound like I'm blowing out a candle when I fart! FUCK PRO INSTRUMENTS, LONG LIVE FAKE GUITAR!!!

mikachu93
08-25-2010, 04:06 PM
I can't believe this. Rockband finally comes up with a decent cheev list, and they taint it by requiring you to purchase hundreds of dollars in equipment to complete! Fuck pro instruments! I already own a real guitar and I enjoy playing it, but I play GH and RB for FUN because they're GAMES! And to top it off, there's no bundle available at release. I was really amped about the keyboard and some of the tracks and cheevs,but now I'm worried that if I am sucked in to buying all of the extras it will sound like I'm blowing out a candle when I fart! FUCK PRO INSTRUMENTS, LONG LIVE FAKE GUITAR!!!
"Man, screw this game. Why would I want to play with a plastic controller? Learn a real instrument already! Oh, snap, they got a real instrument now? Uh... well, damn, I already got a real guitar, so screw that. I'll play my game with a plastic controller the way it was meant to be played."

The Pro modes are there for people who have never played a real guitar before to actually play a real guitar. The Pro achievements are incentives to actually buy the instrument. If Harmonix didn't have any Pro mode achievements, they wouldn't get any money from the achievement whores. This was the smartest move they could have made.

If you're that upset, don't buy the instruments.

ponypo2001
08-25-2010, 06:13 PM
"Man, screw this game. Why would I want to play with a plastic controller? Learn a real instrument already! Oh, snap, they got a real instrument now? Uh... well, damn, I already got a real guitar, so screw that. I'll play my game with a plastic controller the way it was meant to be played."

The Pro modes are there for people who have never played a real guitar before to actually play a real guitar. The Pro achievements are incentives to actually buy the instrument. If Harmonix didn't have any Pro mode achievements, they wouldn't get any money from the achievement whores. This was the smartest move they could have made.

If you're that upset, don't buy the instruments.

Hit the nail on the head here. People moan when Harmonix innovate and they moan when they stick to formula. There is simply no way for them to win with some people. They completely win in my book by allowing both pro and standard play. They aren't forcing you to buy those instruments.

Kellwolf9E
08-26-2010, 03:15 PM
I hardly ever play Red Dead Redemption on-line. I never play Bioshock 2 on-line. Maybe I shouldn't have bought those two because they have on-line achievements......

hazemonster
08-28-2010, 02:30 AM
I hardly ever play Red Dead Redemption on-line. I never play Bioshock 2 on-line. Maybe I shouldn't have bought those two because they have on-line achievements......

Get fucked;)

hazemonster
08-28-2010, 02:39 AM
"Man, screw this game. Why would I want to play with a plastic controller? Learn a real instrument already! Oh, snap, they got a real instrument now? Uh... well, damn, I already got a real guitar, so screw that. I'll play my game with a plastic controller the way it was meant to be played."

The Pro modes are there for people who have never played a real guitar before to actually play a real guitar. The Pro achievements are incentives to actually buy the instrument. If Harmonix didn't have any Pro mode achievements, they wouldn't get any money from the achievement whores. This was the smartest move they could have made.

If you're that upset, don't buy the instruments.

People who want to learn to play real guitar should probably buy a real guitar and some lessons instead of a GAME! X-BOX is a GAMING console, not an instructional device. Also, if you think Harmonix made a smart move by charging an outragious amount of money for instruments that are required to complete the game with no release day bundle, then you should post on a forum about fuckin people for money. This is a forum about ACHIEVEMENTS on a website dedicated to ACHIEVEMENTS, and I can't stand when fools like you and Twisted fate try to trivialize them.
FUCK RB3!!!!!:rant:

mikachu93
08-28-2010, 03:22 AM
People who want to learn to play real guitar should probably buy a real guitar and some lessons instead of a GAME! X-BOX is a GAMING console, not an instructional device. Also, if you think Harmonix made a smart move by charging an outragious amount of money for instruments that are required to complete the game with no release day bundle, then you should post on a forum about fuckin people for money. This is a forum about ACHIEVEMENTS on a website dedicated to ACHIEVEMENTS, and I can't stand when fools like you and Twisted fate try to trivialize them.
FUCK RB3!!!!!:rant:
Grow up, please.

Pro instruments are nor required to comets the game. Your argument is now invalid.

The Xbox 360 is a gamig system that allows companies to release whatever games they wish, including instructional products. Your argument is now invalid.

The Squier is a real guitar, and Rock Band 3 teaches you just about everything a real guitarist needs to know. Your argument is again invalid.

Need I continue?

TwistedFate
08-28-2010, 03:47 AM
The Xbox 360 is a gamig system that allows companies to release whatever games they wish, including instructional products. Your argument is now invalid.

Weak, dude. You can do better than that. ;)

I would have gone a different direction. Such as: With the introduction of messaging, movies, media streaming, Facebook, Last.fm, Twitter, etc... XBox is no longer just a gaming console. Now his argument is invalid because you've proven his original assertion to be wrong and you've introduced the possibility of other uses in the future. Win/win.

mikachu93
08-28-2010, 04:18 AM
Weak, dude. You can do better than that. ;)

I would have gone a different direction. Such as: With the introduction of messaging, movies, media streaming, Facebook, Last.fm, Twitter, etc... XBox is no longer just a gaming console. Now his argument is invalid because you've proven his original assertion to be wrong and you've introduced the possibility of other uses in the future. Win/win.
Bleh. I'm using my iPod. It's hard enough typing on this thing as it is.

Besides. Why bother typing all that out when I know someone else would come along and say it for me. :)

waytwofast4u
08-28-2010, 12:36 PM
i dont see why everyone hates these achievements, i like having a little challenge. theres a lot of achievements but there all pretty easy. i know i'll have 1250 in this game pretty quickly just like every other rockband and guitar hero game. besides the keyboard, but im sure i'll be fine with it cuz i can play actual piano.. cant wait :D

TwistedFate
08-28-2010, 01:02 PM
i dont see why everyone hates these achievements

People hate them because of the cost of getting the Pro instruments, and see the expenditure as too much for just a few achievements. Instead of spending the money and getting a richer gaming experience, they think the only reason to get the instruments is to get achievements.

A CATSHOVEL
08-30-2010, 03:15 AM
I'm far more upset about the "Perfect Drug" achievement than the Pro achievements.

mikachu93
08-30-2010, 04:15 AM
I'm far more upset about the "Perfect Drug" achievement than the Pro achievements.
At least the song is only $2.

toops
09-03-2010, 06:28 AM
At least the song is only $2. if we're going that route, i'm sad i have to play headphones on, i never thought i'd see the day lol. anyway i'm pumped for pro mode and keys,only like 2 months left

Dr.Freudstein
09-03-2010, 07:56 AM
Im psyched about the Dave Grohl achievement. Cant wait for this game !!

toops
09-04-2010, 07:18 AM
just for confirmation on any doubters out there about alex's luggage combination:YouTube- Rock Band 3 Panel @ PAX Part VIII
he specifically says it's a career score of 12 mil

HolyMoses81
09-07-2010, 10:02 AM
I wonder that nobody brought up the HOPOcidal Maniac yet...
53596 in your Windows-calculator on HEX equals D15C!
Does it mean now to play 53596 HOPOs or hit every HOPO on the disc?

TwistedFate
09-07-2010, 12:34 PM
I wonder that nobody brought up the HOPOcidal Maniac yet...
53596 in your Windows-calculator on HEX equals D15C!
Does it mean now to play 53596 HOPOs or hit every HOPO on the disc?

It means hit 53596 HOPO's. You can play the same song over and over again to get it if you want.

HolyMoses81
09-07-2010, 02:19 PM
It means hit 53596 HOPO's. You can play the same song over and over again to get it if you want.
Thx, but I also figured out meanwhile where this comes from:

Dead Rising had the "Kill 53594 infected"-achievement (equals the population of the area Dead Rising plays in [according to the heli-pilot's comment at the beginning), Left 4 Dead topped them with the "Kill 53595 infected"-chievo and said "Hey, in OUR game you have to kill ONE more" and now RB3 tops that again!

SebastianSB
09-07-2010, 02:52 PM
Thx, but I also figured out meanwhile where this comes from:

Dead Rising had the "Kill 53594 infected"-achievement (equals the population of the area Dead Rising plays in [according to the heli-pilot's comment at the beginning), Left 4 Dead topped them with the "Kill 53595 infected"-chievo and said "Hey, in OUR game you have to kill ONE more" and now RB3 tops that again!

What annoys me is that Prototype already added one to the L4D title but RB3 ignored it. Joke broken? :(

TwistedFate
09-07-2010, 04:32 PM
Dead Rising had the "Kill 53594 infected"-achievement (equals the population of the area Dead Rising plays in

It actually starts before that. 53,594 is the population of the town in the original Dawn of the Dead.


What annoys me is that Prototype already added one to the L4D title but RB3 ignored it. Joke broken? :(

More likely a snub. L4D and RB3 are both EA products, while Prototype is Activision. With Activision publishing the only real competition to the RB franchise it seems a little too convenient to think they didn't know/forgot about the Prototype achievement.

SebastianSB
09-08-2010, 02:28 AM
More likely a snub. L4D and RB3 are both EA products, while Prototype is Activision. With Activision publishing the only real competition to the RB franchise it seems a little too convenient to think they didn't know/forgot about the Prototype achievement.

Clever bastard. :p

JedEgan
10-03-2010, 12:01 AM
So, yeah. Argue against me all you want and then disappear from the argument when it turns out to be fake

Looks like you were the only person to disappear from the "argument" when the list turned out to be true.

Que Pasa Neng19
10-03-2010, 12:19 PM
I have one question about an achievement:
Shameless Self-Promotion (http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/rock-band-3/achievement/42742-Shameless-Self-Promotion.html)15 http://www.xbox360achievements.org/images/site/gp-g.pngDownload and play three songs from a band that has Harmonix team members in it.

┐What band/s?

mikachu93
10-03-2010, 04:10 PM
I have one question about an achievement:


┐What band/s?
There will most likely be a check list in the game to tell you the bands, but a few of the bands include:

Abnormality
The Acro-Brats
Anarchy Club
Bang Camaro
Breaking Wheel
Death of the Cool
Freezepop
Honest Bob and the Factory-to-Dealer Incentives
The Konks
Lybians
Megasus
Shaimus
Speck
The Main Drag
The Mighty Mighty Bosstones
That Handsome Devil
Tribe
Vagiant (now Tijuana Sweetheart)
You Shriek

TA Sasuke
10-12-2010, 08:09 PM
I really love this list even though it has a couple Pro mode achieves which require buying additional stuff, but i was planning on buying those eventually and having 100% achievement completion isn't that big of a deal to me.

NoThru22
10-18-2010, 02:48 PM
Why am I not showing up on the Achievement Leaderboards? What do I need to do?

I think my band score counted towards the Alex's Luggage achievement because I don't have remotely close to 12 million in career score yet (I'm more obsessed with playing through my updated DLC.)

As I said in the thread I created (I didn't see the sticky, I am blind to stickies) but Fastest Feet can't be done in Pro Drums mode.

NoThru22
10-19-2010, 02:04 PM
The RBN Harmonix songs count towards the self-promotion achievement. I played one of the Main Drag songs (Dinosaur) and it shows up on the checklist now. The checklist doesn't show which songs count until you play them, however. Also, there are only four free songs listed for the free song achievement, but I don't remember which (I thought there were five so far.)

Also, for many of the goals and achievements, if you press A on the progress screen, it will take you to an automatic setlist that will complete the goal for you. If it something grand, like the HO/PO achievement, it will just take you to quickplay and let you choose songs.

NoThru22
10-20-2010, 01:18 PM
To further clarify, if you choose the Dave Grohl achievement or the Harmonix achievement, it will bring you to quickplay where it only lists the songs you have to choose. For Hamonix it listed Shaimus, The Main Drag, Bang Camaro etc. (but it was missing a lot of other Harmonix bands) and for Dave Grohl it listed almost every Nine Inch Nails song, Nirvana, almost every Queens of the Stone Age Song, the Tenacious D songs, Crooked Vultures, etc. The four free songs are Get Your Rock On, Charlene, Headphones On, and Still Alive. It left off the two recent free songs.

Once you get to the quickplay screen from the goals screen, you can further filter by song length and difficulty, so if you are going for the quickest and easiest songs to complete these achievements, you can easily pick them out (unlike, say Green Day, where you needed a list of the 20 shortest songs.)

Richie Sambuca
10-20-2010, 01:43 PM
for many of the goals and achievements, if you press A on the progress screen, it will take you to an automatic setlist that will complete the goal for you.

Now THIS I like. Thanks for all the updates, NoThru! Keep 'em coming!

NoThru22
10-21-2010, 04:00 PM
I can't figure out how to get the nailed a drum roll achievement. I played Lasso, which had the new drum roll, but maybe I need to play it in regular drums like the Fastest Feet achievement. If you choose the nailed a drum roll goal, the setlist that pops up has every song in the game and DLC, so obviously it's not going to work in older songs.

mikachu93
10-21-2010, 07:07 PM
If you choose the nailed a drum roll goal, the setlist that pops up has every song in the game and DLC, so obviously it's not going to work in older songs.
If Rock Band 2 DLC shows up in the setlist, then it should work on older songs.

NoThru22
10-21-2010, 07:19 PM
If Rock Band 2 DLC shows up in the setlist, then it should work on older songs.
Actually, certain drum and cymbal rolls now show up like sustain notes and you only have to keep tempo, not hit them perfectly. This is a new Rock Band 3 feature and is not in any older songs or DLC. I suspect that you need to do one of these rolls in regular drums mode.

NoThru22
10-22-2010, 12:05 AM
I can now confirm that the drum roll achievement needs to be done in regular drums and that the roll in Lasso will work. It needs to be one of the new rolls.

Richie Sambuca
10-22-2010, 05:42 PM
I'm confused about the Perfect Drug achievement (200 note streak). Does anyone know if it is instrument-specific, or can you get this on either guitar, bass or drums?

NoThru22
10-22-2010, 06:21 PM
I'm confused about the Perfect Drug achievement (200 note streak). Does anyone know if it is instrument-specific, or can you get this on either guitar, bass or drums?
It is not instrument specific. I got it on drums, but it was not under drum goals.

NoThru22
10-22-2010, 06:25 PM
For those of you terrible at plastic guitar like me, it seems like the 100% and 500 streak on bass can be done best with Du Hast.

Richie Sambuca
10-22-2010, 07:39 PM
It is not instrument specific. I got it on drums, but it was not under drum goals.

Cool, thanks. I know there's no way I would ever get that achievement if it were just for drums. Again, thanks for all your tips (especially in lieu of an achievement guide).

NoThru22
10-22-2010, 10:27 PM
Holy crap, I just got the triple harmony achievement in Cold As Ice on hard, singing into two mics, by accident! I was only doing it for fun. My friend got it while I was doing backup vocals for him on Du Hast (on some songs, the three parts don't run together, so you can hit two of them, while he hits another) but then we couldn't recreate it for me.

Sonic1896
10-23-2010, 06:03 AM
It is not instrument specific. I got it on drums, but it was not under drum goals.
I've gotten 700+ streak numinous times on guitar an did not unlock it.

phenixdwn
10-23-2010, 06:39 AM
who cares about the 53k ho/po... They really just said "hit every not in RB3" honestly that is really lame.

TwistedFate
10-23-2010, 01:31 PM
who cares about the 53k ho/po... They really just said "hit every not in RB3" honestly that is really lame.

It's 53K HOPO's total. You could hit the same single HOPO 53K times and get the achievement.

SebastianSB
10-23-2010, 02:09 PM
who cares about the 53k ho/po... They really just said "hit every not in RB3" honestly that is really lame.

Hit every note in RB3 is a goal built into the game, not an achievement. It's called Obsessive Compulsive.

NoThru22
10-23-2010, 09:22 PM
I've gotten 700+ streak numinous times on guitar an did not unlock it.
If it is drums only, then it should be easy as pie on medium drums.

Sonic1896
10-24-2010, 02:59 AM
There's no plat icon for beating Endless Setlist on expert.
Freaking weak.

NoThru22
10-25-2010, 02:21 AM
The NIN achievement is indeed on drums as it is a goal under drums. I was confused because I am playing pro drums and some achievements/goals stack and some don't. This one does, but still does not show up under pro drums.

You can't get Face Melter (beat 3 80's metal songs) on pro drums. I need to find it in the goals section of whatever instrument it's needed on (probably guitar.)

theshieguy
10-27-2010, 06:46 AM
The NIN achievement is indeed on drums as it is a goal under drums. I was confused because I am playing pro drums and some achievements/goals stack and some don't. This one does, but still does not show up under pro drums.

You can't get Face Melter (beat 3 80's metal songs) on pro drums. I need to find it in the goals section of whatever instrument it's needed on (probably guitar.)

Yes. Face Melter is ONLY unlockable on guitar. The 53K HOPO achievement is also ONLY unlockable by playing guitar (bass HOPOs count towards bass goals but not towards THAT achievement). The achievement description isn't completely clear on that. :p


I wanted to ask you guys this last week:

Has anyone started working on a Rock Band 3 achievement guide yet? A handful of people got the game early, but no guide was posted. I wasn't sure if one was written and it just hadn't been posted or not. If no one got around to it, I could post a temp guide Wednesday evening for everyone. Some of the achievement descriptions are not completely clear and a guide would make short work of some of these cheevos.

I made some notes about some of them and some helpful tips that might be useful to some of you. For example:

All challenges with specific custom setlists (like a "Country Custom Setlist") can be changed to meet whatever criteria you need to finish other achievements (Rock Band 3 only, DLC only, etc). The fastest way to get through the achievements would be to work on the DLC achievements in challenges...or whichever ones you want to knock out first. Either way, it's best to start with challenge mode off the bat. And players can work on the RB3 song-related cheevos when the only setlist choices include RB3 songs and random setlists.

And one note about random setlists--when you select one, the top of the screen tell you what songs have been chosen. So you can select and back out of a set until you get the song(s) you need to play for achievements.

Yeah...that's just a little example. It comes across as a bit that belongs in a Road Map, but I think you guys can get an idea of the descriptions with the above. I know that people on this board get outraged if someone works on a guide that they also worked on. But I REALLY just want to make sure that the achievement descriptions can be easily explained to everyone (a guide would help with that). I can't tell you how much time I would've saved on day one with clearer explanations than the ones the game DIDN'T tell me. :p

So if you guys think this sounds like a good idea, just post in this thread and I'll try to have it typed up by Wednesday evening. I have the Pro drums and all the other instruments except the keyboard (I'm getting that by UPS Wednesday) and the Pro guitar (waiting on the Squire next year, so that info would have to be supplied by someone that pre-ordered a Mustang). :)

Daniel55645
10-28-2010, 01:52 AM
WHAT THE FUCK IS WITH THE VOCAL SHIFTING?????!!!!!. It makes no damn sense. they never had it before until bealtes rock band. i dont understand it. is it to make you fuck up or what?

sljag146
10-29-2010, 10:41 PM
bass is due late next year if they can push it or spring of 012. they really wanted one out now but decided against it because of people wanting guitar more.

mikachu93
10-30-2010, 08:20 PM
bass is due late next year if they can push it or spring of 012. they really wanted one out now but decided against it because of people wanting guitar more.
Source, please. Last I heard, a Pro bass was nothing more than a thought on Madcatz' mind. The Squier hasn't even launched, and they wouldn't start production on a Pro bass if the Pro guitar doesn't exceed expectations.

dalton32389
10-31-2010, 01:43 PM
anyone done endless setlist with guitar? i want to do guitar but not every song on disc has guitar available.

Didi Mau
10-31-2010, 03:27 PM
anyone done endless setlist with guitar? i want to do guitar but not every song on disc has guitar available.

I just finished it on solo Guitar, and the achievement does unlock. "Imagine" still shows up in the setlist, but as you have no chart to play you just wait for it to end and then continue on to the next song.

dalton32389
10-31-2010, 09:44 PM
thanks for the info. will start it today

could i turn on no fail mode for endless setlist and walk away from the game?

Firvagor
10-31-2010, 11:23 PM
could i turn on no fail mode for endless setlist and walk away from the game?
I've read that you can, but you need to press A at the end of every song. So you can walk away, but only for minutes at a time.

Also, there's an edit button.

As an addition from the guide thread (figured this was a better place to put it):

Most Authentic Strummer:
Is anyone else having weird upstrum issues on bass?
I went to do the 100% upstrum challenge, and while playing Charlene it randomly thinks I'm downstrumming when I'm really not (the percentage upstrummed decreases on random notes). I've tried it on two guitars (RB1 wired and RB2 strat wireless) and I've had no trouble before. I've also tried holding the strumbar in different upward positions to no avail.

EDIT: I seem to be making progress by holding onto and pulling the strumbar outward and strumming up. Maybe the down sensor is really really sensitive.

EDIT2: Really weird, there seems to be this strange up/down threshold. If I hit early, it's an upstrum, otherwise it's a downstrum. I 100% the song regardless, so I'm not missing anything. Maybe the timing window is really funky and likes to mess up the note hits.
Finally got it, though. That's messed up.

zeroway21
11-05-2010, 07:39 PM
For those of you terrible at plastic guitar like me, it seems like the 100% and 500 streak on bass can be done best with Du Hast.

I got 100% guitar on Bad Romance.( DLC.)

and for Bass Up Strum, imagine.

mikachu93
11-05-2010, 11:20 PM
I got 100% guitar on Bad Romance.( DLC.)

and for Bass Up Strum, imagine.
I got both on Doll by the Foo Fighters, if we're talking DLC. It also brought me one song closer to the Dave Grohl Band achievement when I finished.

Spade422
12-01-2010, 09:10 AM
WHAT THE FUCK IS WITH THE VOCAL SHIFTING?????!!!!!. It makes no damn sense. they never had it before until bealtes rock band. i dont understand it. is it to make you fuck up or what?

vocal shifting? like the vertical vocal range on the highway? imo, i think its actually a lot easier when they have it the way they do now, since you can predict phrases when your arrow is below/higher above the actual vocal bar through the "octive lines".

now...

there are only 5 things i absolutely hate about the new vocal system:

1. you can now pause the game to get you a 5 second head start (or as long as you want, if you pause again), which can potentially make any medium singer 100% any song on expert given enough time and patience.

2. the game doesn't save your settings for mic volume and singer volume; it will always start you off with max volumes for both. its rather annoying to change it every time.

3. dropped ticks (AKA keeping an "awesome" without scoring 1000 base points on expert, or other difficulties) result in a 99%. AKA you can FC any song and potentially get 99% a lot of the time, instead of 100%.

4. the vocal track is ON THE TOP OF THE SCREEN. it hurts my neck looking up that far from my TV angle.

5. no mic sensitivity options. it works in my favor, since i can get some scores better since other people's mics "set" senstivities might give them a disadvantage, but you should really be able to adjust them for everybody's sake.

otherwise, the game is fine as far as i can tell.

TH4DJ4RV1S
12-19-2010, 07:20 AM
thanks for the info. will start it today

could i turn on no fail mode for endless setlist and walk away from the game?
you can... but i wouldnt if your playing guitar because its probably about 13-15 thousand HOPOS toward HOPO-cididal maniac

LeGrimmReaper13
12-29-2010, 02:40 AM
I play too fast and mess up my Bass streaks... :/

SFAL
02-10-2011, 10:12 PM
Last I heard, a Pro bass was nothing more than a thought on Madcatz' mind. If even that.

The Squier hasn't even launched, and they wouldn't start production on a Pro bass if the Pro guitar doesn't exceed expectations. True. Although there is a 'yes, but' to it.

Beyond marketing this sort of technology to music stores, studios, teachers and the like, out in the mainstream non-game arena. Besides any considerations of leading sales from promoting and advertising products that have known demand in existing markets of all sorts.

There is a difference between putting it (the sensors and MIDI electronics etc) in one body versus putting it on another body as far as design and manufacture goes.

There is no huge difference between reworking a Squier body versus a P Bass body.

More thinner less widely spaced strings in a higher octave. Fewer thicker more widely spaced strings in a lower octave. Seems.... trivial, doesn't it. They might as well be the same thing.

Even so, this isn't just some video game company or aftermarket peripheral supplier we're talking about after all. http://squierguitars.com/ http://www.fender.com/ (http://www.fender.com/) http://blogs.vw.com/jetta/category/2012-jetta-gli/

While I might question their sanity only offering pre-orders at Best Buy and a month exclusive at Best Buy, and wonder why there's not a bass to go along with it already, maybe they've got a good reason for all of that.

Okay, yeah, no. Whatever, it's still FMIC and really what else is there to say? They got the power!

lignimvite
02-11-2011, 03:30 PM
I really like the achievement list, all expect that stupid "Is This Fantasy?" achievement, glad they have some DLC achievements, and I hope they add more soon, getting the total achievements up to 1500.

Pollux42
02-17-2011, 03:35 AM
I'm not good enough at this game...too many other titles to play!

Kreegles
02-20-2011, 10:31 PM
Anyone know the easiest songs and instruments to get the 60 second start power achievement?

LolMunnchy
03-17-2011, 04:24 PM
WHAT THE FUCK IS WITH THE VOCAL SHIFTING?????!!!!!. It makes no damn sense. they never had it before until bealtes rock band. i dont understand it. is it to make you fuck up or what?

Are you talking about pitch control? I've noticed "auto correction" come up at the beginning of every song i've played.

I think it's there just to help those who are singing welll, but at the right pitch, and i'm sure there is something in the options to turn it off with :)

LolMunnchy
03-17-2011, 04:27 PM
Anyone know the easiest songs and instruments to get the 60 second start power achievement?

"Wanted dead or alive" and "Green grass and high tides" are both good for this, i found. I tried to do it with a couple of the on disc songs, but couldn't manage it. If not, try going online, and picking a fairly slow song. Wait for someone to unleash overdrive, then release yours as their phase is just finishing :)

StJimmy
03-19-2011, 03:28 AM
Any one help me with Millionaire Club? GT-ACrazyArabCamel

Vitamin269
06-18-2011, 08:16 PM
Why should we have to go out and buy a real guitar, and keyboards, and a new set to get a few achievements. If it was like free or something, i wouldnt mind going for them.

SnowPrincess
06-23-2011, 01:05 AM
I am great at vocals. I actually got all of the Beatles Rock Band Triple-Fabs by myself. I recorded myself singing two parts, then sang along with myself on a third mic. What I did was, I recorded the alto and tenor/soprano harmonies into monaural tracks, then mixed them, but with keeping Alto in the left speaker only, and tenor/soprano in the right speaker only. I then positioned a mic connected to XBOX 360 in front of each speaker on my computer and played the file back. I would then sing the lead melody into the third mic. 3-part harmony, with expert guitar or bass, all at once. :D

If anyone needs a vocalist, let me know. I can either record tracks for you or just connect on Live!.

Also, stupid question, but, can the PRO achievements be gotten without the PRO instruments? If not, that is an additional $300 in plastic instruments just to get a few gamer score!

Also, off-topic, I am missing Guitar Hero 2 and 3 co-op achievements for 1 million and all 5-Stars respectively, even still after how many years?! I would give anything for a patch to those games from Activision to add ONLINE co-op to get those cheevz!

My gamer tag is Sn0w Shepherd, of course, and my full score is 100% legit! I am closing in on 100% across all the games I have played so far! YAY!

hans_jv
07-09-2011, 05:49 AM
Are the final pro drum trainer sessions harder than the beatle beats?

squodge
07-09-2011, 10:00 AM
Are the final pro drum trainer sessions harder than the beatle beats?
Absolutely yes!

The advanced pro drum trainer is sick! :eek:

squodge
07-09-2011, 10:04 AM
Also, stupid question, but, can the PRO achievements be gotten without the PRO instruments? If not, that is an additional $300 in plastic instruments just to get a few gamer score!

Yes, you absolutely need Pro instruments to get the pro achievements. How would you play chords on the plastic guitars lol? For pro drums, you need at least 1 cymbal - but it's great fun to have all 3.

The cost is very low if you're an avid RB gamer. I certainly wouldn't recommend anyone buy the instruments unless they expect to play the game a lot, in which case $300 is very cheap for what the instruments are.

Calsign
07-23-2011, 04:12 AM
i could help

Bl°°dwolf
07-23-2011, 07:26 PM
Yes, you absolutely need Pro instruments to get the pro achievements. How would you play chords on the plastic guitars lol? For pro drums, you need at least 1 cymbal - but it's great fun to have all 3.

The cost is very low if you're an avid RB gamer. I certainly wouldn't recommend anyone buy the instruments unless they expect to play the game a lot, in which case $300 is very cheap for what the instruments are.

Don't forget besides having the instruments you need to have some skill, or a shitload of time to learn how to actually play the pro instruments.