Flugruger Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 Alright guys, what direction do you lot think Treyarch will take with the Veteran campaign on this one? Do you think they'll go back to World at War levels of ridiculous grenade-spamming, infinite-respawning hell, or do you think they'll turn the difficulty down like Infinity Ward did with MW2? If you ask me it's going to be tough to strike a balance between the two. As so many people complained about the infinite respawn IW took it out and it made the game so much easier that people bitched about COD getting diluted and whatnot. I have to admit it was a little too easy - I think COD2 got it just right. I think Treyarch's idea of a compromise could well be no infinite respawn but still hellish 'nade spam, haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opiate42 Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 I can deal with infinitely respawning enemies although they suck. I can't deal with the F***'n grenade spamming though....made Vet on WaW a nightmare I never finished. Finally get to that magic "squad will move up" spot only to have 10 grenades materialize out of nowhere. They can bump it up a bit from MW2 I hope, it's the only COD I've beaten on Vet and other than a few spots didn't find it all that challenging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexagon Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 Agreed^ I'd rather have infinite respawns then have the enemies shit grenades left and right. I've beaten both COD4 and MW2 on Veteran, and I went back to WAW and tried to finish it off. I started up Burn 'Em Out. So much optimism...that ended in WHAT THE FUUUUU-BOOM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i got skeels Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 hopefully the mw2 way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNIPERUPHIGH Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 WAW was hard yeah it was but it was an achievement in its self to make your way through the insane nade spamming and respawns but hey i like a challenge An i enjoyed it............it was frustrating at times but overall i was happy with its veteran difficulty I hope they get rid of the nades coming in at the rate they did but keep the difficulty the same its a challenge People feel good if you beat it not moan after youve beat it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadly Moves Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 I dont really mind infinite enemies, as long as there isnt any sniper grenade spammin. WaW was completely rediculas. But if im honest i would say, i'd like it to be just like MW2, difficulty wise. Bcos having it any harder takes all the enjoyment out for me. It starts to feel like a grind. And i hate grinding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNIPERUPHIGH Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 Grinding nooooooooooo beating the challenge treyarch set is good MW2 was shit there really was no oh my god whats gonna happen next kinda thing going on It was MW1 done bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose Knight789 Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 I really hope that the game is like MW2 and has much less computer thrown grenades like in Waw but im not sure how it will be you really never know until they come out and really talk about how the campaign is going to be do you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNIPERUPHIGH Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 ^^^^^^^^^^^ It is good to talk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayonTarget Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 Game isn't even out and people are bitching about the veteran campaign... *sigh* I know they fixed it. It should be harder than mw2 but without infinite enemy respawns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexagon Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Game isn't even out and people are bitching about the veteran campaign... *sigh* I know they fixed it. It should be harder than mw2 but without infinite enemy respawns. Meh, if you noticed in the OP's post he asks what direction will you think it will go so really just mere guesswork and speculation and nobody bitched about Black Ops campaign, just about WAW's and the like...? It's impossible to bitch about a game that's not out yet, we we're just weighing in how we think it should be. No mean to start a flame war or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atroxx70 Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Personally I think infinite spawns and grenade spam are just ways to cover up for a weak AI. I would like to see finite spawns and each enemy soldier has finite grenades. Then you make the AI more intelligent so they can fight smarter, coordinate their efforts, flank you, and only using grenades when it makes sense to. Under realistic circumstances you would never see 20 soldiers all doing nothing but lobbing grenades. I realize that's asking a lot out of the campaign of a multiplayer centric title, but in a perfect world...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburgerous Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Game isn't even out and people are bitching about the veteran campaign... *sigh* I know they fixed it. It should be harder than mw2 but without infinite enemy respawns. You mean like CoD4? CoD4 got the difficulty right, hard with really hard bits at times (fuck you Ferris wheel show down!) finite spawns, sensible grenades. Awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achievementjockey Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 I think COD4 was perfect for single player. It was incredibly hard, but still possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iBlessing 09 Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 No infinite respawns & no infinite grenades, that's all I'm asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapturous Rich Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Well Treyarch have already shown they've listened to the aches and pains caused by MW2 which isn't even their game and I'm pretty damn sure they've heard all about "Grenades At War" as some people have nicknamed WaW so they're bound to alter something from their own line of games since it'd make them pretty idiotic not to. Personally I don't care. MW2 was too easy on Veteran. WaW at least kicked my ass a few times which is what I expect from the hardest difficulty on a game. People seem to think they should just be handed these achievements... Besides, it's nothing compared to either Perfect Dark or the nightmare difficulty on Aliens vs Predator. No checkpoints? I'd rather have unlimited enemies with a good underhook throw than have to restart the entire mission every single time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSDragon Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Personally I don't care. MW2 was too easy on Veteran. WaW at least kicked my ass a few times which is what I expect from the hardest difficulty on a game. People seem to think they should just be handed these achievements... Besides, it's nothing compared to either Perfect Dark or the nightmare difficulty on Aliens vs Predator. No checkpoints? I'd rather have unlimited enemies with a good underhook throw than have to restart the entire mission every single time. I agree, I'll take the endless amounts of grenades over no checkpoints any day. Although I would appreciate more of a COD4 difficulty, relentless AI with perfect accuracy and the like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearson Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 I have beaten Cod 2 through MW2 on the Veteran difficulty and I hated WaW on Vet. I can live with infinite enemies, but please take away the grenade spam. Like DM said, it is fun for awhile, then soon after it becomes a chore and takes the fun out of it. I agree with an earlier post, I think the CoD on Vet was the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayonTarget Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 You mean like CoD4? CoD4 got the difficulty right, hard with really hard bits at times (fuck you Ferris wheel show down!) finite spawns, sensible grenades. Awesome. Haven't played cod4 but from what I've seen from it, yeah. They are using the same cod4 base for the campaign so it should have a similar difficulty. I'm kinda hoping that you can't take as much bullet damage without dying like in mw2. In cod5, 3 or 4 shots and you died. In mw2, you could accept a magazine to your head and still not need to recover health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Grif55 Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 I'd rather not have the infinite enemies. That's what made it so hard for me. The grenades would be less annoying, if you could actually move up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steamboatidk Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 modern warfare 2 was a good campaign not bad waw was messed up im still at this part where there is enemies in the cave like thing i can't see them and when i go inside they throw grenades like crazy shooting like crazy my teammates do nothing i need a modern warfare 2 partner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayonTarget Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 modern warfare 2 was a good campaign not bad waw was messed up im still at this part where there is enemies in the cave like thing i can't see them and when i go inside they throw grenades like crazy shooting like crazy my teammates do nothing i need a modern warfare 2 partner. The story of WaW so much better than MW2. WaW wasn't messed up. What the hell do you expect for Veteran - "YOU WILL NOT SURVIVE". Come on people, use your heads. It was hard, but MW2 doesn't deserve the Not Survive title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TG Wolf Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 A few less grenades would be nice but in all honesty WaW was ridiculously easy, MW1 was pretty bad and MW2 was SHIT! I'm hoping for less grenades, more difficulty. Gonna borrow WaW off a friend and finish it again on my 2nd Profile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypher_Cobra Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 I didn't have a problem with WAW on Veteran, I didn't see any more or less grenades than I did in CoD4. That said, they'll probably go for an easiest COD6 styled campaign since it appeals to the casuals more which are the bulk of the player base. Anything is better than the older CODs though, COD3 was just too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iBlessing 09 Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 Equivalent to MW2 settings (Grenades, Respawns, etc): Yes. Equivalent to MW2 storyline: No. http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/ww196/_-Blueberry-_/saving_private_ryan_hax0r.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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