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KillerBEA
11-14-2010, 11:10 AM
This guide is written for the sole use of x360a, if you wish to use this information please ask first. This guide is written by KillerBEA, Vampyre Blade and the x360a community.



Overview:
-Estimated achievement difficulty: 9/10
-Offline: 200/200 ; 12/12
-Online: 0/0 ; 0/200
-Approximate amount of time to 200: 6 hours for 150, 10-15 for 200
-Minimum number of playthroughs required: 3 once for each character, will need many more
-Number of missable achievements: 8
-Do cheat codes disable achievements? No codes
-Does difficulty affect achievements? No
-Glitchy achievements? No
-Unobtainable achievements? No
-Extra equipment needed? No

Introduction: Well Guwange is another solid shoot em up from Cave; a remake of one of their classics mind you (1999). This game is fairly difficult for points and most players may score between 40 and 130. Only the dedicated and the skilled will complete. This game will require patience and perseverance, and will be hard but this is completable. You are only guaranteed 3 achievements by playing through with each character, but 1 more is so easy its almost impossible to miss. Using arrange 360 makes this games list alot easier. NO ACHIEVEMENTS WILL UNLOCK IN TRAINGING MODE, JUST USE IT FOR PRACTICE.


Step 1: Playthrough with each character and the statue
Going from right to left you need to play with Shishin, Kosame, and Gensuke. Nothing gives a particular character an advantage so it doesn't really matter which one you go with first.
During this step you will earn:

Shishin's Technique
Kosame's Technique
Gensuke's Technique
The Great Statue
Pocket Change
With love from Guwange-sama


Step 2: Practice and get good
The remaining achievement's take a moderate to advanced level of skill. So its time to practice, practice and practice some more. You can make saves right before Guwange-sama and Amagisu so you can PRACTICE as doing this will null out the achievements. These will be frustrating but it will be worth it when you can say you completed Guwange.
During this step you will get:

Money Grubber
Cash fiend
Grind for gold
To new heights...
The subjugation of Guwange-sama
True diabolical power


Conclusion: This is a Cave Shump so you can expect nothing less then a tough achievement list and a fun game and that is what we got. Overall this game is fairly fun and easy 60 points for the average gamer or maybe a bit more but the 200 will only be possessed by fairly talented players. Good luck!

KillerBEA
11-14-2010, 11:10 AM
http://www.xbox360achievements.org/images/achievements/1553/-tPK-A==.jpgShishin' technique 10:gsicon:
Clear the game using Shishin

There are 6 stages in the game, just playthrough the game 1 time with Shishin (Far left). Playing in Arrange 360 mode will make this easier as the game will shoot bullets for you, so all you have to worry about is dodging and swinging your shikigami to block/stop bullets from hitting you.

Gensuke's and Shishin's shikigami have a more circular damage radius while Kosame's spirit deals damage to a more linear area, thus making her slightly weaker. Go with the character whose hit box you can measure the best.

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/images/achievements/1553/-PLDSQ==.jpgKosame's technique 10:gsicon:
Clear the game with Kosame

There are 6 stages in the game, just playthrough the game 1 time with Kosame (Middle). Playing in Arrange 360 mode will make this easier as the game will shoot bullets for you, so all you have to worry about is dodging and swinging your shikigami to block/stop bullets from hitting you.

*See shishin's technique for info about character selection*

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/images/achievements/1553/-RI72g==.jpgGensuke's Technique 10:gsicon:
Clear the game with Gensuke

There are 6 stages in the game, just playthrough the game 1 time with Gensuke (Far right). Playing in Arrange 360 mode will make this easier as the game will shoot bullets for you, so all you have to worry about is dodging and swinging your shikigami to block/stop bullets from hitting you.

*See shishin's technique for info about character selection*

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/images/achievements/1553/+3EhBQ==.jpgThe Great Statue 5:gsicon:
Destroy the Great Statue in Stage 3!

This can be done in any mode, carefully aim you shikigami at the correct statue to destroy it. If down correctly it will unlock right away. There is an image of where the statue is in the spoiler tag.

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5388&d=1289416757


http://www.xbox360achievements.org/images/achievements/1553/+pHZlg==.jpgMoney Grubber 10:gsicon:
Connected a 10,000 coin combo

A coin combo ends when you get hit. You will need to make it a good chunk of the way through stage 3 without getting hit very much in order to get the achievement. Playing in arrange 360 mode makes this easier as the games shoots for you also I reccomend rubber banding the right trigger, so that you don't have to hold it down yourself to keep your shikigami out. So all you have to worry about is dodging and moving your shikigami around.

This unlocked for me right after the Great statue in stage 3 and I had been hit 3 or 4 times. As long as the meter in the top left doesn't run out then your coin combo will continue. Using bombs and getting hit diminish your meter and getting hit does take away some of your coin combo.

When picking your character there isn't very much difference between the 3 but there are a few things and knowing them might help.

Gensuke's and Shishin's spirit have a more circular damage radius while Kosame's spirit deals damage to a more linear area, thus making her slightly weaker. I would say go with the character, whose hitbox you can measure best .

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/images/achievements/1553/+bbNmA==.jpgCash Fiend 20:gsicon:
Connected a 30,000 coin combo

A coin combo ends when you get hit. You will need to make it through a portion of stage 6 without getting hit very often in order to unlock the achievement. Playing in arrange 360 mode makes this easier as the games shoots for you, so all you have to worry about is dodging and moving your shikigami around.

*See Money Grubber for full details*


http://www.xbox360achievements.org/images/achievements/1553/+FY1Cw==.jpgGrind for Gold 15:gsicon:
Score 25,000,000 points

Playing in arrange 360 mode makes this alot easier; as will putting a rubber band on the right trigger to keep your shikigami out so all you have to worry about is doding and swinging the shikigami around.

*See To New Heights for more information*

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/images/achievements/1553/+cnRfw==.jpgPocket Change 15:gsicon:
Collect 1000 coins during a boss battle.

I found this really easy on stage 5's boss. Coins come out when you kill and break things as you dwindle the bosses forces and health coins will drop out; grab 1,000 of them. You can even die during the fight and get the achievement.

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/images/achievements/1553/s1.jpgWith love from Guwange-sama 10:gsicon:
Suffer a noble defeat by Guwange-sama

Guwange-sama is the second to final boss of the game so getting to him takes a little while. You won't receive this unless you get killed by Guwange-sama's 2nd form which looks like a giant baby. None of his other forms will produce the achievement.

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/images/achievements/1553/s3.jpgTo new heights... 25:gsicon:
Scored 50,000,000 points.

Dying and continuing resets your score. Playing in arrange 360 mode makes this easier as the games shoots for you, also rubber banding the right trigger will allow you to keep your shikigami out without holding down the trigger yourself. So all you have to worry about is dodging and moving your shikigami around you should get this somewhere in stage 5 or 6, depending on your coin combo and how many times you have been hit.

When you get hit; even slightly will drop your coin-combo which means your score will not increase as fast. Best way to ensure you get this achievement it is to do a nearly flawless run. This involves practice and patience but no were near as much as The subjugation of Guwange-Sama and True Diabolical Power. Just keep practicing and memorizing the different bosses patterns.


http://www.xbox360achievements.org/images/achievements/1553/s4.jpgThe subjugation of Guwange-sama 20:gsicon:
Defeated Guwange-sama without taking damage.


This is in stage 6. You must beat the final bosses 2nd form which looks like a giant baby without being hit.
*Advice from helgor; paraphrased*


Make a save right before this boss and practice this spot over and over. Learn the patterns and safe spots. As a precaution to make sure you have it down; don't make an attempt for the achievement until you can beat Guwange-sama 3 times in row without getting hit. Not only will this save you time re-playing the entire game but also allows you to focus purely on learning his patterns.

You can use bombs; but you can't finish off Guwange-sama with a bomb or it will not unlock the achievement.
Use your shikigami ALOT

Here is video Fatal x Blade made of him beating Guwange-Sama without getting hit.
YouTube - The Subjugation of Guwange Sama Achievement

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/images/achievements/1553/s2.jpgTrue Diabolocal Power! 50:gsicon:
Destroyed Amagisu's final form without taking damage.
This is in stage 6. You must defeat the final bosses final form without being hit. He can deflect bombs and takes little damage from standard attacks so this will be tough.

*Advice from helgor; paraphrased* Make a save right before this boss and practice this spot over and over. Learn the patterns and safe spots. As a precaution to make sure you have it down; don't make an attempt for the achievement until you can beat Amagisu' final form 3 times in row without getting hit. Not only will this save you time re-playing the entire game but also allows you to focus purely on learning his patterns.


Cannot use bombs at all during the fight
Continues do not matter; leading up to the boss fight
Using bombs before the boss fight does not matter
Must Destroy bosses entire form without getting hit, meaning after you kill Guwange-Sama (giant baby head monster), is when achievement starts and you mustn't get hit.

Here is a video of Fatal x Blade beating him without receiving damage:
YouTube - Guwange True Diabolical Power! Achievement

KillerBEA
11-14-2010, 11:11 AM
A special thanks to A47A47 for the Great statue image.
Huge shout out to Vampyre Blade. He made the videos and gave some seriously valuable information. Congrats on the 200 man.

amacteur
11-14-2010, 12:57 PM
How can we give you achievement pictures?

I've unlocked everything except the last one. If you want some pictures, let me know how I can give it to you ;)

FYI, there is only 6 stages, not 8.

Cheers :drunk

Zonic505
11-14-2010, 03:57 PM
I'd like to suggest that just about all the achievements (combo, score, etc.), do it on Arrange Xbox 360, as I feel that's the easiest mode due to being able to control your shikigami w/ the right analog stick, plus it's easier to make bullets slow & getting rid of them.

As for the bombs, if you're trying to get 10,000/30,000 coin combo, I'd suggest that you be VERY careful using them, as you cannot earn coins using a bomb, which'll cause your meter to drop, which might eventually go empty & thus lose your combo. I would only use them if I had the meter full and I knew there'd be enemies/a boss to refill the meter before it empties so you can refill it.

Speaking of bombs, THIS IS VITAL INFORMATION FOR THE NO DAMAGE ACHIEVEMENTS. It seems that, while you're allowed to use bombs on the final 2 forms of the last boss, YOU CANNOT USE A BOMB TO FINISH THEM OFF. It won't count.

amacteur
11-14-2010, 04:30 PM
Speaking of bombs, THIS IS VITAL INFORMATION FOR THE NO DAMAGE ACHIEVEMENTS. It seems that, while you're allowed to use bombs on the final 2 forms of the last boss, YOU CANNOT USE A BOMB TO FINISH THEM OFF. It won't count.

I second that, if you're planning to get "The subjugation of Guwange-sama" achievement, save your bombs until you reach the last boss (part 2 / looks like a baby). When facing him, use your bombs to make the battle easier, but make sure you don't finish him with a bomb but your shots/spirit.

This way, it makes it really easier ;)

KillerBEA
11-14-2010, 07:59 PM
How can we give you achievement pictures?

I've unlocked everything except the last one. If you want some pictures, let me know how I can give it to you ;)

FYI, there is only 6 stages, not 8.

Cheers :drunk
Submit them to the site through the submission board so that is can be processed and Pants can add the green border.

Changed the 8 to 6 and took out tactful bombs for the combo. Will add the other stuff mentioned but I gotta run, going to be late for work.

amacteur
11-14-2010, 08:05 PM
Submit them to the site through the submission board so that is can be processed and Pants can add the green border.

Changed the 8 to 6 and took out tactful bombs for the combo. Will add the other stuff mentioned but I gotta run, going to be late for work.

I've submitted them this afternoon, I've no idea if anybody has done it also.

For the amount of time, you can set it to 6 hours for 150G, and maybe add another 2 hours to grab the last achievement.

You can also give some more tips/details to get:



Money Grubber
Cash fiend
Grind for gold
To new heights...


Otherwise, nice work for the guide ;)

K4rn4ge
11-14-2010, 08:24 PM
I have a question regarding The subjugation of Guwange-sama achievement.
(Defeated Guwange-sama without taking damage). I know that Guwange-sama is the boss that looks like a baby's head but is it the bosses whole life bar without taking damage or just the final form when he has about half his life bar left? This game's achievement descriptions seem very ambiguous. Also, I used a bomb when he had about half health and he transformed and never got hit for the whole battle but no achievement. Can I not use a bomb as he is changing form at the halfway point in the battle? I know you can't use a bomb to deliver the final blow but I am still confused as to why I didn't get achieve. Also, can anyone confirm that if you get a game over and continue BEFORE getting to Guwange-sama, is it still possible to get this achieve or must everything be done in one continue. Answers would be much appreciated :)

Vampyre Blade
11-14-2010, 10:28 PM
It should also probably be noted, that in order to get the Amagisu achievement, it is speculated that bombs cannot be used at all during the fight.

I've been trying to do this off and on but have been unsuccessful thus far, I will post back if I manage to get the achievement.

KillerBEA
11-15-2010, 04:52 AM
I've submitted them this afternoon, I've no idea if anybody has done it also.

For the amount of time, you can set it to 6 hours for 150G, and maybe add another 2 hours to grab the last achievement.

You can also give some more tips/details to get:



Money Grubber
Cash fiend
Grind for gold
To new heights...




Otherwise, nice work for the guide ;)
Yeah they added them, now all we need is for someone to earn true diabolical power and submit the picture.

Edit: Did a minor update, I am going to go play the game a little bit try out a few things take some notes and I will be back soon.

luuwat
11-16-2010, 02:32 AM
giving a 7/10 diffculty is very generous for this game lol

unless there some loops holes i dont see how to get the full 200g,

i dont think its harder then ikuraga at all but jesus christ

Vampyre Blade
11-16-2010, 04:35 AM
You really may want to edit the estimated time, 6 hours for 150 is perfectly fine. But, then saying 8-10 for the remainder is a bit off when you think about it, because if you're attempting true diabolical achievement and expecting to get it in a measley 2-4 extra hours, you're either highly skilled or extremely lucky. Especially since it takes about 30 minutes per attempt. Meaning that you would only be attempting the achievement 8 times within your 4 hour estimate which is absurd because its undoubtedly going to take more than 8 tries.

Zonic505
11-16-2010, 05:42 AM
OH! I forgot to mention something very important. If you save a game & load it later, YOU CANNOT GET ACHIEVEMENTS. I tried that & when I tried to load it, it said "Achievements will not unlock after loading a saved game". So for those aiming for the no damage achievements, if you get hit, you gotta start ALL OVER AGAIN FROM STAGE 1.

KillerBEA
11-16-2010, 05:45 AM
giving a 7/10 diffculty is very generous for this game lol

unless there some loops holes i dont see how to get the full 200g,

i dont think its harder then ikuraga at all but jesus christ
Changed it to a 9!
You really may want to edit the estimated time, 6 hours for 150 is perfectly fine. But, then saying 8-10 for the remainder is a bit off when you think about it, because if you're attempting true diabolical achievement and expecting to get it in a measley 2-4 extra hours, you're either highly skilled or extremely lucky. Especially since it takes about 30 minutes per attempt. Meaning that you would only be attempting the achievement 8 times within your 4 hour estimate which is absurd because its undoubtedly going to take more than 8 tries. I was going off what another member said about the time but i edited it to 10-15 for 200.

If there is anything needed adding let me know. Still working on some details,

Vampyre Blade
11-16-2010, 07:54 AM
Much more reasonable, thank you. If I can ever get the true diabolical achievement I'll make a video of my replay for your guide. I've gotten so close so many times.

You may want to add in your road map section (probably in the step 1 area) that 360 arrange mode is highly recommended due to the fact that it shoots your forward weapon for you and allows for you to control your shikigami at the same time.

Also in the statue achievement section you say that it needs to be done in 360 arrange mode which isn't necessarily incorrect. But, this achievement can be done in the other modes seeing as you can control the shikigami in all modes. So, you saying that is a bit misleading.

It needs to be made clear that in order to unlock the achievement for defeating Guwange-Sama without getting hit that a bomb cannot be used to kill him. And also that for the True Diabolical achievement bombs cannot be used at all during the fight.

In the part where you say you should practice for those skill related achievements. You could probably mention how setting up a save right before the bosses with achievements related to them is a great way to practice their battles and learn their bullet patterns. Although it should be made clear that achieves do not unlock by loading saves so, when they are ready to try for the achievement they will have to start the game from stage 1.

MACdanstaface
11-16-2010, 10:56 AM
A few questions:

When you get hit, do you always hear the sound/hump? I was pretty sure I got the subjugation of the baby without getting hit (I heard nothing), but nothing poped up. I didn't use the bomb to finish him, but I used 4 in the fight. Can someone confirm you can use bombs and still get the achievement?

Also, for the cash fiend/50 mil achievements, any tricks? I'll get the 30k coins on my own eventually (my best is 27k before boss 5, and I can improve on that) - only want to get it done before stage 5 boss - but the best I've got so far is 42mil by finishing the game.
The guide says I should get it by stage 5; so I'm pretty sure that I'm missing something here.

BTW: the guide says get the 50mil stage 5 and 30k in stage 6. Is this correct?


I've seen the beginning of n.1 replay, and he actually seems to shoot most of the time, and just sweep his spirit to rack up coins. But he got 200mil+ and I just want 50. Any suggestions on a good technique?

Vampyre Blade
11-16-2010, 11:08 AM
Yes you can use bombs during that particular fight...BUT, you may notice how when you start draining his health he will sort of explode and light on fire. I'm fairly certain, but not 100% positive that if you use a bomb and the bomb causes said explosion that it voids the achievement. But like I said not for sure all I know is I used bombs and was still able to get achievement.

And, yeah its pretty obvious when you get hit, the noise is quite distinctive and your health will lower (obviously).

amacteur
11-16-2010, 12:14 PM
I'm sure I've used couple of bomb during guwange-sama fight and got the achievement. I only finished him with my regular shots/spirit.

For 30K gold achievement, I managed to get that during stage 5, and I got cash fiend achievement on stage 6.

My best score is now 87 millions (and I'm not a shmup master). It is not that hard to reach 50 millions though.

PAPIOL
11-16-2010, 02:36 PM
I'm sure I've used couple of bomb during guwange-sama fight and got the achievement. I only finished him with my regular shots/spirit.

I'm a bit confused with this... i was used 3 bombs in Guwange-sama at the beggining of fight and then i was defeated him with the normal shots and... no achievement for me :(

PS: Hello there, im newbie and non english-speaking... be gentle with me :p

amacteur
11-16-2010, 03:10 PM
BUT, you may notice how when you start draining his health he will sort of explode and light on fire. I'm fairly certain, but not 100% positive that if you use a bomb and the bomb causes said explosion that it voids the achievement.

Vampyre Blade is probably right though. I didn't pay attention to this part when trying to get the guwange-sama cheevo.

You should try again without bombing his face before he explodes and lights on fire.

This may be the only explanation for this IMO :confused:

PS: Usted puede hablar en espanol tambien :p (i'm kidding)

Catzumi
11-16-2010, 10:28 PM
I enjoy cave games but im not a pro , and it took me twenty minutes to get 115 on the game , and in one hour ill get the two others achievements for the other characters , and the statue i've miss. The arrange mode is way too easy ...

Oh and btw , you can kill the statue in arcade mode too , you can rotate the bomb by keeping the button pressed

Vampyre Blade
11-17-2010, 02:01 AM
True Diabolical Power! Achievement Unlocked...Thank God

Now that I have the achievement I can confirm a few things:

-Cannot use bombs at all during the fight
-Continues do not matter
-Using bombs before the boss fight does not matter
-Must Destroy bosses entire form without getting hit, meaning after you kill Guwange Sama (giant baby head monster), is when achievement starts and you mustn't get hit

I will make a video of my boss fight, seeing as I went ahead and saved my replay

If you would like I can also make a video for the guwange sama achievement...just tell me if you want me to do it without using bombs also...or if I should use bombs and show the easy way to defeat him with bombs

Also if you need me to I can submit my achievement pic for your guide...but I'm rather new at this so you may have to explain how.

Vampyre Blade
11-17-2010, 03:22 AM
YouTube - Guwange True Diabolical Power! Achievement

True Diabolical Achievment Video

I don't unlock the achieve during the video seeing as its my replay, but that is the boss fight I got it during. Also it not amazing I took the video with my cell phone, but it turned out alright. Had a couple close calls as you will see... Especially at about 17 seconds when the little girl moved out of my targeter and the bullets went blue for a couple seconds.

Feel free to use it in your guide if you want.
Just credit my Gamer Tag " Fatal x Blade " if you do decide to use it.

If you would like I can do the guwange sama achieve too.

MACdanstaface
11-17-2010, 09:57 AM
True Diabolical Power! Achievement Unlocked...Thank God

Now that I have the achievement I can confirm a few things:

-Cannot use bombs at all during the fight
-Continues do not matter
-Using bombs before the boss fight does not matter
-Must Destroy bosses entire form without getting hit, meaning after you kill Guwange Sama (giant baby head monster), is when achievement starts and you mustn't get hit

I will make a video of my boss fight, seeing as I went ahead and saved my replay

If you would like I can also make a video for the guwange sama achievement...just tell me if you want me to do it without using bombs also...or if I should use bombs and show the easy way to defeat him with bombs

Also if you need me to I can submit my achievement pic for your guide...but I'm rather new at this so you may have to explain how.

Can you elaborate on the "continue doesn't matter" thing? I'm assuming you don't mean the hit count resets when you continue? (which would make it way too easy).

Also, the baby boss, what is the explosion you're referring to? Is it when he gets king of pustules on his head? I beat him twice with no hit (at least, no hit sound), and no achievement - I also finished him once with the bomb by mistake...

I'll be glad to get the last 2 achievements. I might change my mind by the time I do get them, but it's not a 9/10 difficulty game (unless you count the time required as a difficulty factor)

Vampyre Blade
11-17-2010, 10:40 AM
By no continues I was just referring to when you get a game over does that factor into voiding the achievement which it doesn't. Because, somebody asked me about it over Xbox Live so I figured I would just go ahead and clarify on that in case anyone else was wondering.

Now as far as what I meant by Guwange Sama exploding, I was merely referring to how when you fight him and you knock off part of his health. He will sort of explode or light fire, and generally thats when he switches up his attack patterns. I was just theorizing that if a bomb is what causes him to light fire then the achievement is voided, similar to how if you completely destroy him with a bomb it voids the achievement. However, I have not tested this theory, so I do not gaurantee this is the reason. Just thought it seemed like a logical possibility to why some people are having trouble getting the achievement.

Worse comes to worse just don't bomb at all during guwange sama and the achievement should unlock. Believe me guwange sama is much easier to defeat without using bombs then amagisu. Plus if you plan on going for the true diabolical achievement you will have MANY oppurtunities to try for your guwange sama achievement.

As far as difficulty goes I would say:

The 130GS is a joke especially for a shmup (only because of arrange 360 mode though)

150GS requires a bit of skill and may take several attempts

Full 200GS after having acquired it, I would say is about a 8/10 for the average player, because as you said unless you factor in time. Which I would factor in time, seeing as its time you're spending learning the boss' patterns and gaining skill.

I would say to get all 200 in this game takes from 5-25 hours depending highly on player skill level and familiarity with the genre.

KillerBEA
11-17-2010, 11:52 AM
If you would like I can do the guwange sama achieve too. If you would that that would be awesome. and thank you for so much information.
To submit: post a thread here: http://www.xbox360achievements.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=125

Post should look like

True Diabolical Power!
Destroyed Amagisu's final form without taking damage.
50:gsicon:
Here you will provide a link to the colored achievement tiles location.



I'll be glad to get the last 2 achievements. I might change my mind by the time I do get them, but it's not a 9/10 difficulty game (unless you count the time required as a difficulty factor)
When it comes to skill based games such as these time should be considered yes. I think 8 is substantial. I can complete 7s if i put forth effort but 8-10s probably never gonna happen and i dont think I will ever get True diabolcial power.

Vampyre Blade
11-18-2010, 12:38 AM
The Subjugation of Guwange Sama Achievement Video, without getting damaged and without using bombs. As far as I can gather from this achievement the only way to guarantee it will unlock is by not using bombs. Although it is obtainable by using bombs also because the first time I did it I used a couple bombs. But, I would suggest only using a bomb if it looks like you're gonna take a hit, and even than it might be best to try not to damage the boss too much with the bomb. Seeing as its hard to say for sure what about using bombs can void the achievement.

Also I apalogize for the slightly poor quality video, and also for accidently cutting off most of my health bar at the bottom of the screen (I blame it on having to prop my cell phone against my cereal bowl in order to make it stay). But, you shouldn't really need to see it because it's quite obvious that my character never takes a hit seeing as the character hit noise never sounds nor does the hit animation ever happen, so yeah enjoy.

Also Once again no achievement pops during video becuase I already have the achievement. But, if you replicate what I do in the video yours should unlock.

YouTube - The Subjugation of Guwange Sama Achievement

Vampyre Blade
11-18-2010, 01:17 AM
Ok, this applies for your coin achievements and your point achievments because, I notice your guide currently needs some info on those.

At the top left corner of your screen you will notice a row of skulls. Below the skulls is your coin counter which is the number you should be paying attention to for your coin related achievements. Above the row of skulls is your point counter which is what you need to look at for your point related achievements. Ok so as you kill enemies consecutively your skulls will begin to light up. At a certain point they will start flashing gold, when this happens enemies will begin to drop coins. Also when this happens if you hover your shikigami over enemies during this time they will die and every bullet released on screen at that time will turn into coins. Which is why in the later levels you gain coins much faster because there are more enemies and bullets on screen at once. Now this is all well and good but, should you start missing enemies with your shots your skull counter will begin to drop. Should all skulls become unhilighted than your coin counter is reset. Similarly if you die your coin counter is cut in half. Also it is very important not to use bombs unless your skull row is basically maxed. Simply because you cannot increase your skull row whilst using bombs, it only drains. Not saying you can't use them, just proceed with caution.

Points are dependent directly on your coins. Obviously you gain points by killing enemies and whatnot. But, it is important to be aware that the higher your coin counter the faster you will be gaining points. Also there must be some kind of bonus points you can earn for not using a continue because I beat the game once on a seperate account with about 38million but after the end cutscene started playing I unlocked the achievement for 50 million points.

Also it should be noted that if you use a continue all your stats reset including your points.

PAPIOL
11-22-2010, 03:09 AM
Nice videos ;)
A rapid question: For these boss achievements, you must do this on arcade (or arrange) or can be done in training mode selecting the final stage?

Vampyre Blade
11-22-2010, 06:37 AM
Nice videos ;)
A rapid question: For these boss achievements, you must do this on arcade (or arrange) or can be done in training mode selecting the final stage?

Can be done in Arrange or Arcade mode though arrange is much recommended. Training mode will not unlock achievements.

luuwat
11-23-2010, 01:23 PM
that video makes it look so easy, why do the bullets come so slow? or was it like that? havented played it since it came out lol,

good stuff will try

KillerBEA
12-16-2010, 02:35 AM
Did an overhaul, added some details to the descriptions. Re-added Blades Guwange-sama achievement video (I swore I added it once before).

Did some practice last night, got just shy of 25mil and 10k coin combo

Plan on adding a few more things will I will square most of that away tonight I hope .

Just added the point value for killing the bosses and added a tip about rubber banding the right trigger to keep the shikigami out.

Getting close but not done quite yet!

fatofi
12-27-2010, 07:32 PM
Did an overhaul, added some details to the descriptions. Re-added Blades Guwange-sama achievement video (I swore I added it once before).

Did some practice last night, got just shy of 25mil and 10k coin combo

Plan on adding a few more things will I will square most of that away tonight I hope .

Just added the point value for killing the bosses and added a tip about rubber banding the right trigger to keep the shikigami out.

Getting close but not done quite yet!sorry for my english =[


i buy the game yesterday, and make 130/200 without great dificult, play with gensuke in arrange mode make the game reaaaaaaaaly easy, only "True Diabolical Power!" and "The Subjugation of Guwange-sama!" to 200/200.

I record the replay in a bit

KillerBEA
12-28-2010, 10:34 PM
No worries man understood you perfectly.

Just confirming; Gensuke is better then the others?

MACdanstaface
12-29-2010, 09:22 AM
No worries man understood you perfectly.

Just confirming; Gensuke is better then the others?

Didn't think you were still working on the guide...

For the no-hit baby achievement, there's an easy way. You can "orient" the projectiles by standing next to the head. It's just a matter of moving from left to right. It's a bit hard to explain, but it's in my xbox 360 arrange replay of Kosame on the online leaderbords - at around 87 mil.

For me Genuske is better.

I only play a few games per week, and don't think there are any particular (edit for Helg0r :) )tricks for the last boss - just got to keep at it until you get a lucky break...

Helg0r
12-29-2010, 09:23 AM
From my experience it doesn't make that much of a difference which character you choose if you play in Arrange since you will most likely have your spirit deployed the whole time and therefore have no difference in movement speed.
Gensuke's and Shishin's spirit have a more circular damage radius while Kosame's spirit deals damage to a more linear area, thus making her slightly weaker. I would say go with the character, whose hitbox you can measure best (for me that was Shishin).

Just my personal observations... :)

edit: the very last boss indeed has a pattern but it is a little bit vague. Observe the yellow balls closely and you will see that most of the time their trajectories stay roughly the same. What's random is their spin (clockwise/counter-clockwise), so basically you have to find a position where you can react to both cases. Keep at it! :)

MACdanstaface
12-29-2010, 09:55 AM
the very last boss indeed has a pattern but it is a little bit vague. Observe the yellow balls closely and you will see that most of the time their trajectories stay roughly the same. What's random is their spin (clockwise/counter-clockwise), so basically you have to find a position where you can react to both cases. Keep at it! :)

I'll give it a shot - I didn't mean the last boss was random - just meant you can't really tell where the yellow balls are going - and the random spin is a pain at times.
After I avoid the first ball, I try to move laterally in the big space between the beads at the bottom of the screen. I've got it by loading a save, so I assume I'll get it eventually if I keep at it. The 25-30 min per try is just a bit of a pain.

BTW: How did you get it? Did you grind it until you get it, or play it casually a few times a week?
EDIT: I didn't realize you got it so fast... Do you have an idea of how many times you tried before you got the achievement?

Helg0r
12-29-2010, 04:10 PM
I started to grind it but soon realized that I wouldn't get it that way if I couldn't come up with a consistent strategy. So I made a save right before the boss and played that part over and over again looking for a pattern and safe-spots. Experimentation with different characters eventually lead to Shishin as my favorite.
However, once I was able to beat the final boss without taking damage I continued to practice that part until I pulled it off three times in a row and then switched back to Arrange mode and got it on the second try. :)

Most of the time in the beginning was 'wasted' though because I didn't know about the no-bomb restriction until one of the Japanese players kindly told me, that's approximately when I started to practice from a savegame :)

I suggest you do the same and start by practicing only that part and once you got it down move on to playing casually.

MACdanstaface
12-29-2010, 05:30 PM
I started to grind it but soon realized that I wouldn't get it that way if I couldn't come up with a consistent strategy. So I made a save right before the boss and played that part over and over again looking for a pattern and safe-spots. Experimentation with different characters eventually lead to Shishin as my favorite.
However, once I was able to beat the final boss without taking damage I continued to practice that part until I pulled it off three times in a row and then switched back to Arrange mode and got it on the second try. :)

Most of the time in the beginning was 'wasted' though because I didn't know about the no-bomb restriction until one of the Japanese players kindly told me, that's approximately when I started to practice from a savegame :)

I suggest you do the same and start by practicing only that part and once you got it down move on to playing casually.

Thx - but I have to admit I feel stupid... I've been playing for this achievement more seriously since Xmas, but didn't bother with practice as much as I should have (got it once in practice and just went on to arrange mode...)
In 1 hour I can try the boss section as often as 1 month at my current rate of play. I'll post back when I get the achievement;)

KillerBEA
12-30-2010, 03:33 AM
Didn't think you were still working on the guide...


Lol its cool man. i play the game so sparatically; but when i do play i am studying the patterns trying to get better; i am practicing for the coin combo achievement. i can get to the great staue without getting hit.

Unless i discover something big i dont add anything and I usually check for anything posted a few times a week

edit: added the practice tip for the subjucation achievement and true diabolical power achievement. plus a few other things.

Anthrizacks
01-27-2011, 11:38 PM
I beat the game with Shishin and got killed my Guwange-sama.2 in the process, yet got neither achievement. o_O

Helg0r
01-28-2011, 10:35 AM
I beat the game with Shishin and got killed my Guwange-sama.2 in the process, yet got neither achievement. o_O

Have you tried using a continue on Guwange-sama? I think that should work...

Domme
01-28-2011, 08:04 PM
Gee, Amagisu sucks!
I killed him like about 7 times without getting hit - but only in practice. :/

I'm always very nervous when I face him so all I do is total bullshit. That sure is annoying. :/

The Stray
01-28-2011, 08:15 PM
Well, practice makes perfect, already got the game, but Amagisu will be a pain to get that 200 though. Also I tried that Co-Op [Local/Online] doesn't give you achievements, so tough break there.

Lymsleia
04-15-2011, 08:25 PM
The Great Statue achievement won't work for me because it never appears from the pot. Do I need to use a certain difficulty level to make it appear or play it on original mode?

The Stray
04-16-2011, 08:52 PM
The Great Statue achievement won't work for me because it never appears from the pot. Do I need to use a certain difficulty level to make it appear or play it on original mode?

Nope, there are no difficulty settings except in Practice, though you can do it in any offline mode, just shoot the 3rd statue from the bottom right precisely and you'll get it.

KaiohHokuto
05-27-2011, 05:11 AM
Ahhh dangit! I actually got the no hit Amagisu achievement, but I was on my secondary Japanese gamer tag and not my main account!! Now, I can't do it again on my main... :( Makes me not want to play it again...

KeepEmRolling
12-15-2011, 06:39 PM
I beat the game with Shishin and got killed my Guwange-sama.2 in the process, yet got neither achievement. o_O

I just picked the game up on sale, and just did the above with the same results.

When it says clear the game with a certain character, do you have to do it without continuing? I played Arcade offline mode and am confused why no achievement.

lord verh
05-02-2012, 10:38 AM
I just picked the game up on sale, and just did the above with the same results.

When it says clear the game with a certain character, do you have to do it without continuing? I played Arcade offline mode and am confused why no achievement.

You can't save the game and load a save. Maybe that's what you did?

The Stray
05-02-2012, 04:55 PM
If you save/load the game from a save state, those achievements will be locked and cannot be earned unless you play it from the beginning, although the character specific ones are real easy enough, and yes, you can still continue and earn it.