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Shaaady Souljah
05-31-2007, 05:28 PM
From an article by Jeff Passan of Yahoo! Sports. He rated based upon performance this year mostly in comparison to what they make, as well as performance since the signing of their contracts. And this is only what they make this year; a lot of them are in line to make even more next year based off of contract signings. You can read the full article for more in depth analysis of the choices.

Interesting choices... what do you all think?

C: Jason Kendall (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/5562/;_ylt=AghZBdfsB72UC2t9TmkXWpcHU84F), Oakland, $13.43 million
1B: Carlos Delgado (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/5178/;_ylt=AhpIqKlEyrEKEu4eO7YCIXAHU84F), New York Mets (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/teams/nym/;_ylt=Aijd6vCGjMMWqyxHXzoZrocHU84F), $14.5 million
2B: Craig Biggio (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/4217/;_ylt=Aj0iUS0tewVSnk8.Q08jpuIHU84F), Houston, $5.15 million
SS: Julio Lugo (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6451/;_ylt=Ao9LSAm8Y9_JBhO38epHeUYHU84F), Boston, $8.25 million
3B: Scott Rolen (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/5668/;_ylt=AuRUM6bOJ8WxnUhleVOKS_QHU84F), St. Louis, $12.31 million
OF: Garret Anderson (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/5289/;_ylt=ApKsEwJSbi3KyfAUecpT_VYHU84F), Los Angeles Angels (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/teams/laa/;_ylt=Ajz2OqdHWxqPUFcpSJan9tcHU84F), $11.6 million
OF: Bobby Abreu (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/5698/;_ylt=Ajq8btcovHxhjAvl4rRMZuwHU84F), New York Yankees (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/teams/nyy/;_ylt=AgW2p.uoJFZYPh23uchYFoIHU84F), $15 million
OF: J.D. Drew (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6117/;_ylt=AgtUfnU8W_wVbI3e9sD2t.oHU84F), Boston, $14.4 million
DH: Shea Hillenbrand (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6332/;_ylt=AqrM5h1nuTUl777hI8VrDOIHU84F), Los Angeles Angels, $6 million

SP: Carl Pavano (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/5945/;_ylt=ApssLfAxAXqGXyGby5._5y8HU84F), New York Yankees, $10 million
SP: Barry Zito (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6394/;_ylt=ApJas0ZcDAFpr0IWIxcFvzMHU84F), San Francisco, $10 million
SP: Matt Clement (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6099/;_ylt=AsBuGMtF3OxZPAis52Wst9oHU84F), Boston, $9.5 million
SP: Jeff Weaver (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6200/;_ylt=AnmyYgsbXiY1T7LNtceiJqkHU84F), Seattle, $8.33 million
SP: Mike Hampton (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/4994/;_ylt=At.V0GXhn_mRfus7KZ6isM0HU84F), Atlanta, $14.5 million
RP: Armando Benitez (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/5290/;_ylt=AtwcrUh4MZSKU9KMx5rflL0HU84F), San Francisco, $9.7 million
RP: Danys Baez (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6395/;_ylt=Ak4Xvzdfei3nOLKL4mM5iL4HU84F), Baltimore $5.67 million
RP: B.J. Ryan (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6294/;_ylt=ApYq2AxaqcwaMbTyqoSnBrUHU84F), Toronto, $7 million
RP: Scott Eyre (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/5869/;_ylt=AoylBluWX5IiRycefTMAdJgHU84F), Chicago Cubs (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/teams/chc/;_ylt=AjbiVjbwkMsJIdo7v50C04EHU84F), $3.83 million

Personally, I think it is hilarious how people like Zito have not even pitched well enough to be considered average. Let alone, perform to the standard of the biggest pitching contract in baseball...

Fonkey Monkey
05-31-2007, 08:46 PM
J.D has never been anything. why these taems consistently give him outrageous money is beyond me.

scott rolen and craig biggio shoulnt be on that list though.

AOS Puck
05-31-2007, 09:35 PM
If Zito can start getting consistent, he will be worth the money. In his 5 wins this year, he has had 3 shutouts, a 1 run game, and a 3 run game. As it stands now though, he is definitely overpaid.

I'm actually quite surprised Barry Bonds isn't on the list. He's getting like 18 million I think for this year. He's batting close to .300 but that's only because he has been getting walked alot due to his potential to hit a homerun. Granted he is looking healthier this year, but I still think he's overpaid.

alex4283
05-31-2007, 09:52 PM
people still watch baseball?

I guess it's just me because the texas rangers are the local around here.

shadow sniper
05-31-2007, 10:32 PM
wow how the hell can bj ryan be on there hes out 4 the season if this guy knew anything about the mlb bj would not be on there and well who makes the same $ as zito would be on there wells has not done a dam thing all year

Wandering Proof
05-31-2007, 11:06 PM
Any chance we can add 90% of the Yankee's roster on there?

I understand that these people are "great" at what they do, but the amounts of money they get paid has always baffled me. While it is a form of entertainment (and don't get me wrong I think other entertainers get paid far to much as well), it is just a bit out of control.

I know Shaaady will back me on this. Players should be like Tori Hunter and be willing to do whatever it takes to win, such as him taking a sizable pay cut and reworking his contract just so that they could keep some key players on the team who wouldn't fit in the Twins budget.

So I will go ahead and add to this and ask the question...

When did money become more important then a championship/winning/team play/love of the game?

Cause
05-31-2007, 11:56 PM
people still watch baseball?

I guess it's just me because the texas rangers are the local around here.
Hey im a Texas ranger fan. I'm proud to admit it.

and they forgot to add

eric gagne-1 year 6 million for a broken arm

I King Pin 0
06-01-2007, 01:49 AM
Wow, this thread completely surprised me. I thought it would be a hate thread on the Yankees. For example, 13 games behind in their division, last place in their division, has a pitcher that can "choose" when he wants to travel with his TEAM but can take his own private plane when going on away games (or just not go at all), and a stacked ass team with the biggest payroll that has no reason they can't be in first place.

Their heads are bigger than their gloves and bats.

I King Pin 0
06-01-2007, 02:04 AM
So I will go ahead and add to this and ask the question...

When did money become more important then a championship/winning/team play/love of the game?

Well, if you want to talk about money....

MLB: All overpaid team: (16 players): $179.16 mil

New York Yankees: (Top 16 paid players): $ 185.9 mil :eek:

New York Yankees: (Full team 27 players): $195.2 mil

11 players ROFL (Not the Superstars): $9.3 mil :confused:

But yet in last place.......:confused::mad::confused::mad::eek:

Shaaady Souljah
06-01-2007, 02:07 AM
So I will go ahead and add to this and ask the question...

When did money become more important then a championship/winning/team play/love of the game?

That's what I don't understand. A player will have a breakout year on a team and almost win a championship... and then decide to leave that team right as they are about to go over the edge and win it all, simply because a suckier team with more money offers them a fat contract.

David Ortiz leaving the Twins to go to the Red Sox. (The Sox were above average at best when he went there... and he got lucky and they spent a shit load of money and won.)

Alex Rodriguez, Randy Johnson, Ken Griffey & Co. leaving the Mariners for bigger contracts. Just think of how good they would've been if all of their players stayed over the years.

I will not name anymore, but it's sad that money means more than winning or playing the game...

Styze
06-01-2007, 05:42 PM
Where's Alex Rodriguez on that list??????
The bush league player he is!!!!!!!

bxbomber
06-01-2007, 06:39 PM
I am beginning to see green(envy) in this thread. Are you jealous the Yankees have the best players the game has ever seen? Are you jealous more Yankee fans go to your games then you do? Are you jealous because your teams complain the Yankees weren't scheduled for a weekend series? Are you jealous that you're in first place in the opposite league but in the same city and the Yankees get the pack page anyway?

Don't let the standings fool you. They are the best team money can buy and the results will be there in the end. Period.

Shaaady Souljah
06-01-2007, 06:49 PM
i haven't bashed the yankees once yet in this thread, but since reading your post, i can not resist...

Are you jealous the Yankees have the best players the game has ever seen?

Are you jealous that you spend 4 times more money than teams that continuously beat you every year in the playoffs, because they have team chemistry instead of a bunch of selfish all-stars? Or are you more jealous that you continue to spend loads of money every year, and have not won a title since 2000, while smaller market teams continue to straight up outperform you?

Are you jealous more Yankee fans go to your games then you do?

Are you jealous that your team has nothing but bandwagon-jumping fake fans who will leave as soon as they tank? And our teams will always have die-hard fans through thick and thin?

Don't let the standings fool you. They are the best team money can buy and the results will be there in the end. Period.

Don't let the money fool YOU. The season is already going into June (1/3 of the season is already gone!) and you are in last place. Behind the Tampa Bay Devil Rays! And you are 13.5 back of the Red Sox and falling farther by the minute.

OUCH. Owned. Game. Shady. (crowd cheers)

Frakus
06-01-2007, 06:57 PM
I figured Jason Giambi and Roger Clemens would of made the list. Clemens jsut becuase he is gettign rediculous money for this year and Giambi has such a huge contract and is not producing anymore.

bxbomber
06-01-2007, 07:14 PM
Are you jealous that you spend 4 times more money than teams that continuously beat you every year in the playoffs, because they have team chemistry instead of a bunch of selfish all-stars? Or are you more jealous that you continue to spend loads of money every year, and have not won a title since 2000, while smaller market teams continue to straight up outperform you?
Are you jealous Torii Hunter has to leave Minnesota because you can't pay him? Knowing that if it wasn't for signing Damon, he would be ours. Can't wait for Santana to hit the market.

Are you jealous that your team has nothing but bandwagon-jumping fake fans who will leave as soon as they tank? And our teams will always have die-hard fans through thick and thin?
Fake fans are Minnesota fans who got smart and joined a perennial contender, but if the Yanks tank go back to Twinkies.


Don't let the money fool YOU. The season is already going into June (1/3 of the season is already gone!) and you are in last place. Behind the Tampa Bay Devil Rays! And you are 13.5 back of the Red Sox and falling farther by the minute.
13.5 games back with 100+ games to play. Every year jealous opponents don't get tired of the same argument knowing the American League East will be looking at the back of NYY cleats when all is done.

Wandering Proof
06-01-2007, 08:24 PM
Are you jealous Torii Hunter has to leave Minnesota because you can't pay him? Knowing that if it wasn't for signing Damon, he would be ours. Can't wait for Santana to hit the market.

You obviously don't pay much attention to the league... but then again why would you, you are a Yank fan. Torii Hunter is a TEAM player. He reworked his contract and took a ~3 to 4 million dollar pay cut (can't remember the exact number off the top of my head) so that they could sign back players like Santana, and help his TEAM/FANS/CITY win a championship.


Fake fans are Minnesota fans who got smart and joined a perennial contender, but if the Yanks tank go back to Twinkies.

This doesn't even make sense, I'd call you an idiot but you've pretty much done it yourself. This is a thin and useless attempt at an argumentative point that just isn't there.

13.5 games back with 100+ games to play. Every year jealous opponents don't get tired of the same argument knowing the American League East will be looking at the back of NYY cleats when all is done.

I'm sure they will be looking at their cleats since they will be hung in a locker with a "poor me sign" and a sad face sticker above them. This photo will of course be seen across the nation in article under the headline "Yanks can't buy the championship again, Steinbrenner drowns himself in his pool of money"

Shaaady Souljah
06-01-2007, 08:34 PM
Every year jealous opponents don't get tired of the same argument knowing the American League East will be looking at the back of NYY cleats when all is done.

this doesn't change the fact that the A.L. will once again be represented by the toughest division in baseball--the A.L. Central. (For the 3rd year in a row.)

in all honesty, i wish you would take Hunter. i would feel bad for him, but then i would laugh that even more money was spent to lose again. and then we would call up another future star (Denard Span) to replace him like we always do. our farm system is one of the best in the league, whereas you have virtually no farm system. the last guy to successfully come up through your program? Derek Jeter. 12 years ago. Sad.

the rest of the "yankees" are nothing more than hired guns. who, if they do not perform, get dropped like it never happened. cough*Randy Johnson*cough.

Wandering Proof
06-01-2007, 09:08 PM
the rest of the "yankees" are nothing more than hired guns. who, if they do not perform, get dropped like it never happened. cough*Randy Johnson*cough.

You make a solid point here.. but lets also not forget that for the past 6 years good 'ol JS has thrown Joe Torre under the bus, spun the tires, and went back and forth a few times before saying they are best friends and hiring back for another season...

Ah memories...

I King Pin 0
06-01-2007, 09:27 PM
I am beginning to see green(envy) in this thread. Are you jealous the Yankees have the best players the game has ever seen? Are you jealous more Yankee fans go to your games then you do? Are you jealous because your teams complain the Yankees weren't scheduled for a weekend series? Are you jealous that you're in first place in the opposite league but in the same city and the Yankees get the pack page anyway?

Don't let the standings fool you. They are the best team money can buy and the results will be there in the end. Period.


Your points would have been GREAT.... If it was 10 god damn years ago.

Ex. Best players the game has ever seen= Yes, 10 years ago they were best.

Yankees fans go to more games than me... Yes obviously, I am only one
person, but I have season tickets.... Sorry

Yankees weren't scheduled on weekend... Who gives a crap I would much rather see any team play.

Um, I'm not in your city so last one doesn't apply.

So you need to get over yourself and your dumb ass Yankees because it is safe to say no one here is jealous of you or how much you spend because you just can't win it all.:(

I think Shady probably hit the nail on the head best....Crowd Cheers!

Defcizion
06-03-2007, 08:00 AM
Notice how there are no Brewers on that list, and yet they are doing awesome.

Shaaady Souljah
06-03-2007, 12:23 PM
Notice how there are no Brewers on that list, and yet they are doing awesome.

that's because this is the OVERpaid list. i am sure a couple brewers would be on the underpaid list (prince fielder especially), because they are outperforming their value by so much...

KewlBrettC
06-04-2007, 08:33 PM
I am a huge yankee fan, but I am aware that the Yankees are not a team, and they are just a bunch of highly paid guys. So the whole roster should be on this list because they arent playing to their potential

Shaaady Souljah
06-04-2007, 09:00 PM
I am a huge yankee fan, but I am aware that the Yankees are not a team, and they are just a bunch of highly paid guys. So the whole roster should be on this list because they arent playing to their potential

yes. finally someone who understands. if you guys were in first, and the red sox were in last... it would be the same story, but the red sox would be all over it. and you are from New York, so you are allowed to like them. it's lame when someone who has never lived in new york or has zero ties to new york, cheers for them just cuz theyre good.

p.s. — your gamertag is the greatest thing i have seen today. CLASSIC.

Wandering Proof
06-04-2007, 09:32 PM
yes. finally someone who understands. if you guys were in first, and the red sox were in last... it would be the same story, but the red sox would be all over it. and you are from New York, so you are allowed to like them. it's lame when someone who has never lived in new york or has zero ties to new york, cheers for them just cuz theyre good.

I agree... BUT... there is always the Mets...

p.s. your gamertag is the greatest thing i have seen today. CLASSIC.

I second that!

Will Metropolis
06-17-2007, 07:17 PM
If that list is for just this season (which I'm pretty sure it is), he's hitting the nail on the head. I'm a Cardinals fan and would really like to defend Scott Rolen, but he just isn't playing like a $12,000,000 player. Biggio is a fan favorite, but he's not putting up any numbers. Delgado is another favorite of mine, but he's just not getting it done this year.

Hoof Hearted25
06-18-2007, 10:28 PM
these players are getting all this money and still want more money it gets me mad when they are like i could get 12 million somewhere else when you are offering me 11 million 12 million is enough for your grand children to use when they are older

Clipse 2
06-18-2007, 10:37 PM
Can Jim Edmonds get an honorable mention? $9.5 Million for a guy thats falling apart, won't run plays out when batting, and will miss a good portion of the season due to days off, rest, and injury is freaking ignorant. I love the Cards, but I loath Jim Edmonds, he's not worth the price for what you get.

Will Metropolis
06-20-2007, 05:12 AM
Ole' Jim Edmonds' good days are behind him. He's suffering concussions and things like that from running into those walls and diving into the ground all those years. I'm a Cards fan, no doubt. Even if they can't pitch worth a donkey!

Hulking Bubba65
06-27-2007, 04:47 AM
I figured Jason Giambi and Roger Clemens would of made the list. Clemens jsut becuase he is gettign rediculous money for this year and Giambi has such a huge contract and is not producing anymore.
yea dude thats ridiculous, Clemens gets paid about a million bucks a game to do eh alright average thats ridiculous if you ask me....

rahxepheon101
07-05-2007, 03:09 AM
Why is Craig Biggio on that list. 5 mil for a good 2nd baseman is a nice deal. Besides all those years in service for them he deserves the money. I have to say that he is the only person I disagree with being on the list. Especially when he could have made more money elsewhere.

Dropkick Weasel
07-08-2007, 04:05 AM
"OF: Bobby Abreu (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/5698/;_ylt=Ajq8btcovHxhjAvl4rRMZuwHU84F), New York Yankees (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/teams/nyy/;_ylt=AgW2p.uoJFZYPh23uchYFoIHU84F), $15 million"

With the year he is having, that is being overpayed

ilski
07-08-2007, 06:54 AM
I will not name anymore, but it's sad that money means more than winning or playing the game...

You can hardly blame the players. I'm sure it isn't easy turning down tens of millions of dollars. Blame the society that allowed the player of a game to be paid millions of dollars a year.

J Lo
07-08-2007, 11:36 AM
I heard on ESPN that A-Rod has a 10 year contract with 252 million, which would break down to 25.2 million a year!! :eek:

Bombstriker
07-08-2007, 04:53 PM
Yeah and he could opt out after this year I believe so he should be getting even more money lol!

ilski
07-08-2007, 10:44 PM
I heard on ESPN that A-Rod has a 10 year contract with 252 million, which would break down to 25.2 million a year!! :eek:

Despite how utterly ridiculous this kind of money is (David Beckham is set to make $50 million a year for 5 years :eek:) when A-Rod retires he will be the HR king and stands a good chance of being in the top 3 all-time hit leaders. He will probably also be in the top 3 run leaders and RBI leaders. More than likely number 1 in most of these stats. Barry Bonds will be the HR king and in the top three if not number 1 in these categories (except hits) until A-Rod overtakes him.

spikedzombies
07-10-2007, 05:38 AM
i will admit im a huge seattle fan.

Weaver started out bad this year, but in his past 3 starts has shown why he is being paid that amount..

If you want over-paid look at Sexson and Beltre kthx.

bdg7884
07-13-2007, 12:40 AM
yes. finally someone who understands. if you guys were in first, and the red sox were in last... it would be the same story, but the red sox would be all over it. and you are from New York, so you are allowed to like them. it's lame when someone who has never lived in new york or has zero ties to new york, cheers for them just cuz theyre good.

p.s. your gamertag is the greatest thing i have seen today. CLASSIC.
This kinda pisses me off... I'm from Utah and i'm a Yankees fan. So your trying to tell me because i have no tie to New York I can't like them??? You trying to tell me I can't like any professional sprots teams besides the Jazz, because i'm from Utah? That's ridiculous! Utah has one pro team, the Jazz. We have a Triple AAA baseball team and minor league hockey team. Guess what i'm a Braves and Cubs fan also. Oh yeah a Bulls, Jazz, and 49ers fan. I grew up watching and loving these teams and guess what stuck with the 49ers and Bulls when they sucked. Just because you got lucky and have the market to have all professional sports teams in your state, doesn't mean all of us do.
I will defend the guy who keeps getting dogged. Guess what... The Yankees were in this same position last year. Maybe not as many games behind but who won the division? Yes they choked in the playoffs, but won the division. After the all-star break every year the Yankees kick it in the ass and win the division. But sometimes streaks come to an end. It happened to the Braves last year...

Dave
07-13-2007, 04:04 AM
i like how carl pavvano gets paid to not pitch, idoit injuries himself, then gets in a car accident, doesnt tell anyone, then has some other balonioa injuire! hes no good get rid of him!

Dave
07-13-2007, 04:06 AM
i also think players should be paid on what they do during the season- if the win a lot of games then the money will be good to them, if the team makes it to the playoffs they get paid more etc; i think they should start off with a small amount of money and i mean small when they get signed then they get more money if they do good

rahxepheon101
07-14-2007, 01:27 AM
haha a-rod is apparently going to be paid 30 mil a year for his next contract. Haha!

spikedzombies
07-14-2007, 03:08 AM
haha a-rod is apparently going to be paid 30 mil a year for his next contract. Haha!

and he deserves it.

he's the only person i actually think will break barry bonds home run record, at least when barry bonds breaks hank aarons home run record.

i expect a-rod to average at least a 45HR/100+RBI/20+Steal season till he's 40 lol. thats definitely worth it.

alex4283
07-14-2007, 03:41 AM
i think the entire mlb is overpaid.

Krueger
07-15-2007, 11:02 PM
Biggio does deserve to be on that list he the only player with 600 doubles, 3,000 hits, 250 homers and 400 steals, been hit the most and seven time all star, how bout Jeff Kent

DoM cAbAn
07-20-2007, 04:46 AM
I agree with Bobby Abreau, he definately didn't prove his worth throughout this season for the Yankees.

Vista
07-24-2007, 02:24 PM
Where's Alex Rodriguez on that list??????
The bush league player he is!!!!!!!

Dude alex rodriguez is the best player in baseball right now. You're probably a dumb ass red sox fan thinking o shit the yankees are gonna catch up cause they have been playing great baseball since a week before the all star break...

Sure they have a lot of money, look at you're stupid chinese friend Dice-K, friggin 50 mil just to talk!!!, He is BLOWING this year, Chieng Ming Wang has been better than him and hes not getting paid as nearly as much as Dice-K is.

MVP numbers, ONLY JULY 23-

A Rod-
Runs-94*
HR-34*
SB-10
SLG%-662*
AVG%-313

*-LEADS MLB

AJJets107
07-24-2007, 09:45 PM
I would have to say Carl Pavano.

TimmayTheTurtle
07-24-2007, 09:53 PM
they all are WAY TOO OVERPAID. every fuckin guy

Hulking Bubba65
07-25-2007, 02:21 AM
Dude alex rodriguez is the best player in baseball right now. You're probably a dumb ass red sox fan thinking o shit the yankees are gonna catch up cause they have been playing great baseball since a week before the all star break...

Sure they have a lot of money, look at you're stupid chinese friend Dice-K, friggin 50 mil just to talk!!!, He is BLOWING this year, Chieng Ming Wang has been better than him and hes not getting paid as nearly as much as Dice-K is.

MVP numbers, ONLY JULY 23-

A Rod-
Runs-94*
HR-34*
SB-10
SLG%-662*
AVG%-313

*-LEADS MLB
Yo, man his post is from the first of June before A-rod's numbers skyrocketed, paid attention next time.

AJJets107
07-26-2007, 04:27 PM
they all are WAY TOO OVERPAID. every fuckin guy I wouldn't go there. There are a couple of baseball players who are actually underpaid.

Adebisi 187
07-26-2007, 06:25 PM
Definitely need to add clemens on there at 28.1 million. Also i'm pretty sure Gil Meche who went to the royals makes over 10 mil a year and he's not worth it.

Nothing beats Carl Pavano though, well that and the Mets buying out Mo Vaughn for the red sox just to have him injured for god knows how many season.s

Adebisi 187
07-26-2007, 06:27 PM
And as far as stats go, Im pretty sure id take Pujol's over A-rod any day (yes im a red sox fan).

Pujol's has had a .330+ career BA since his rookie year, 120+ rbi's and 40+ homer's on average i believe.

And hes actually supposed to be a nice guy.

Hulking Bubba65
07-26-2007, 07:17 PM
(yes im a red sox fan).

That's exactly why.
But anyways, Alex Rodriguez is only 1 home run away from 500 career homers.Yes Pujols may have a nice career career going so far, but A-Rod has 499 home runs and is only, 30ish i think so if he keeps going at this rate, he will probably be the new home run champ and first person to 800 career homers.
(Trust me i hate Stray-Rod as much as you, but most of this is true.)

Adebisi 187
07-26-2007, 07:45 PM
well pujol's has had a better start to his career than a-rod did, even with starting at a little older age (pujol's is 5 years younger or so than him). Likewise pujol's is a lot cheaper and doesn't bring poor media to the team.

Honestly if there was one person to choose to a team i'd probably pick Vladimir Guerrero or Justin Morneau.

Hulking Bubba65
07-29-2007, 04:48 AM
well pujol's has had a better start to his career than a-rod did, even with starting at a little older age (pujol's is 5 years younger or so than him). Likewise pujol's is a lot cheaper and doesn't bring poor media to the team.

Honestly if there was one person to choose to a team i'd probably pick Vladimir Guerrero or Justin Morneau.
Yeah that's true he doesnt bring mad media or anything bad really to a team.But i was saying if i had to choose between Ster-rod (if he is ever convicted of steroids, i made that up:D) or Pujols, without cash involed i would go with Ster-rod.