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NY xVENGEANCEx
05-11-2011, 07:30 AM
I noticed a lot of people have been having issues completing some of the challenges. And by completing some of them, I mean the pain-in-the-ass "Be More Objective". Yes, they get harder as you progress through the tiers but I found out how to make them hassle-free.

From the main menu...follow this:
1. Campaign
2. Click on ANY mission
3. Set difficulty to EASY
4. Back out to the main menu
5. Play desired challenge...Voila!

This is a little bug in the game I found out after about and hour and a half of pure frustration and angst towards the developers. I was playing the second tier of the first challenge on hard because I was playing the campaign on hard. However, I was not aware that I was playing on hard because there is no difficulty selector for challenges. Very sneaky Splash Damage, very sneaky. It quickly led to me asking the question on how this "challenge" even got into the game. Let me tell you, if you beat this damned thing on hard then upload and post a video here because I had my shit down to a science and still couldn't get past the Operative part. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE! Hang on, let me rephrase that. "BE MORE OBJECTIVE" ON HARD IS COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY ABSURD. Period.

Anyways, I hope this helps for anyone who is struggling to get those pesky weapon attachments. Thanks for your time.

Tsukasa117
05-11-2011, 08:07 AM
I'll try this I hope your right because that would make my night, now to discover the mystery of the not popping Tooth and Nail Achievement 'woosh'

neverendr
05-11-2011, 08:34 AM
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you!!!

I was beating my head against the wall for the same reasons you were, and your tip fixed it for me. Thanks a bunch!

Tsukasa117
05-11-2011, 08:48 AM
Just tried it and it didn't work I'm still insta dead when I try to do the operative objective. It may have been something that's not reproducible which would make it unfortunately unreliable.

Pea Tear Gryphon
05-11-2011, 08:51 AM
I am still having trouble due to the lack of AI help at times...its like they dont even help you kill anything even why you setup the challenges like this. Having the worst time getting through the hack step of Be More Objective ** (2 star mission). I found it a little easier to get to this point but struggle once I hit this part...cant even imagine what they make you do for the 3 star! Thanks again for the tip as well though! Great find! Seems like this made the enemy AI a little easier to get through but any other tips, like what kind of setup you used for your character on the objective level before running through this? :)

neverendr
05-11-2011, 11:22 AM
I didn't change any weapons from default, I don't think you can. My loadout for campaign is a medium with an assault rifle primary w/ the ACOG scope equivalent and the "Barrett" sniper with the long range scope as secondary. When I launch challenges it resets me to an assault rifle with iron sights and a Vector looking smg.

I went about it this way - start level, use one of your reload skill points to max your ammo out. Sprint out to the first corner and let your ai fodder get ahead. When enemies show up, you can sit in cover behind a tall box on the left and lean out to the right to pick off hostiles with headshots while they shoot your ai fodder. *make certain* that once you down a hostile, put some rounds into them until they stop moving, or they'll be back up and shooting you in a few seconds. Run up, plant while they're respawning, move back to the box for cover to defend the charge. Use your frags and molotovs as much as possible since you'll be switching to engineer in a moment anyway. Kill all the bots again after you switch, then bolt to the repair spot and work on it, it may take 2 lives but your progress stays, just wait for medic instead of respawning. Once complete, headshot the bots again (seeing a pattern yet? :) ), bolt back to the console and change to operative, hide behind your cannon fodder and continue your headshot kills, then head up the stairs ahead and to your left, crouch and defend until your guys get there, stick with headshots through this whole deal. Once you wipe out the bots, plant the hack. One key point is that you CAN move a fair distance away and still hack, it just slows down but still gets done. Simply sit in cover and pop heads while your AI dudes soak up fire. Again, I'm saying you have to focus on headshots, or the enemy bots will waste your bots since the enemies have superior ai. Once you finish the hack, grab the box and haul ass for the objective. Enjoy your new smg, it's quite nice!

If you continue to have problems, I'll see if I can do a video walkthrough later on. I just updated my laptop and server to windows 7 ultimate and haven't totally figured it out yet, and I need to find drivers for my capture cards...it's something I need to do anyway, so I'm planning to do it asap anyway. I'm going to subscribe to this thread so I see your post in my email if you need a video, or you can pm me here and it'll pop up as an email on my phone, either way I'll see your post and see what I can do. Good luck with it in the meantime!

Cheers!

NyteShade
05-11-2011, 12:57 PM
I didn't find the 3-star challenges that hard the only one I had problem with was the last one and that's do to the fact that I was using the medium class, So I switched it over to heavy lay down mines and the turrent and I ran around the whole map instead of sitting in one spot where u get nades thrown at u like cod

VELVETxASSASSIN
05-11-2011, 03:15 PM
is it at all possible to create a character for each challenge or do u have to complete all challenges with 1 character to get the achievement? Using the Op's easy method with a new character seems to help alot. It seems the lower your rank is the easier the enemy A.I. is to handle.

llll epic llll
05-11-2011, 04:08 PM
is it at all possible to create a character for each challenge or do u have to complete all challenges with 1 character to get the achievement? Using the Op's easy method with a new character seems to help alot. It seems the lower your rank is the easier the enemy A.I. is to handle.

Ya I def. think it's based on your rank. I also wonder if you can use a new character for each challenge?

GDMFS0AB
05-11-2011, 04:43 PM
I don't see why they have made the AI more difficult dependent on player rank. I say rank and not skill simply because any joe can rank up.

Therefor it's getting harder but the player isn't any better at the game. Let's face it, the perks/abilities you get for ranking up are good, But most are useless.

I'm looking at you "silent running". This isn't cod.

13ip0lar
05-11-2011, 05:12 PM
Yeah just so everyone knows, it is said that challenges get harder as you rank. I'd refer you to Maka's 3 star guide, for that discussion.

NY xVENGEANCEx
05-11-2011, 08:33 PM
Okay, another update to this thread because some people seem to be having a hard time beating these.

I don't have a capture card or anything, but "neverendr" above me seems like he/she will help you guys out with that. I will explain the way I do it the best I can without video. This applies to the "Be More Objective" challenge.

First off, for my build I used a medium character. I personally think the best guns in the game are the Gerund AR and the Carb-9 SMG, so I used those for my primary and secondary weapons, respectively. Attach any unlocks you can to your guns to make them better.

1. As soon as you start, RUN to the HE charge plant and PLANT it. As soon as it has attached to the door RUN to the right for cover and help your teammates shoot at the oncoming enemies.

2. As soon as it explodes, RUN to the command post and change to an engineer. Buff your weapon damage IMMEDIATELY. You can do this while RUNNING. Make your way upstairs to the repair objective. You can go either way, left or right, because honestly, neither way is any easier than the other. When you reach the top you may have to kill a few enemies, just gun them down and then THROW DOWN A TURRET to the right of the objective FACING THE ENEMY SPAWN STAIRS. In case you were wondering, I'm pretty sure you need to be Level 5/Rank 2 to be able to use turrets. Anyways, once you've done that you shouldn't have too much trouble completing the repair objective.

3. As soon as you've completed that, jump down and switch to Operative. This is where it gets tricky because the enemy spawn is almost directly where the objective is. So try and switch quickly and GET YOUR ASS to that objective. If you don't get it the first time, just stay calm and kill some enemies before you go back in there, because running in like a mad man won't get you anywhere. Once you set up the hack and your character takes the PDA thing out GO BACK TO THE COMMAND POST AROUND THE CORNER, because you can still hack from there without taking enemy fire.

4. The next part really isn't that hard so the only tip I have is that once you've retrieved the next objective and you have to go upstairs, just take the stairs by YOUR SPAWN because you'll deal with less enemies.

I hope this helps and if there are any other questions or if you just want to play, just message me.

Pogo27
05-11-2011, 10:07 PM
Yes, the challenges do seem to get more difficult as you rank up, which I find annoying.


Obviously, as you rank up, you buy upgrades for each class. However, I tend to prefer playing as a medic, and I've invest all my upgrades in the medic class. Yet for the challenges, you're forced onto other classes (mostly engineer). And I've got no upgrades as a engineer (namely, turrets).

luke391
05-11-2011, 10:33 PM
I don't see why they have made the AI more difficult dependent on player rank. I say rank and not skill simply because any joe can rank up.

Therefor it's getting harder but the player isn't any better at the game. Let's face it, the perks/abilities you get for ranking up are good, But most are useless.

I'm looking at you "silent running". This isn't cod.

The thing that annoys me is HOW easy it is to rank up. You can honestly do challenge 3 and just STAND next to it without doing a thing and level at some point. The thing that annoyed me in campaign is that as I kept losing due to close calls it just got harder... though I couldn't do it to begin with...


@ TC:

If I can beat campaign with limited issues (only 2 problematic levels) on hard with only the AI... its possible to do these missions if you make a new character or something.

skizzle168
05-12-2011, 12:20 AM
Its def. true that challenges get harder as you rank. I couldnt understand why people were having such trouble. I breezed through them.
Than I figured out why..
The challenges were the almost the first thing I did. I played 1 resistance mission, and then the challenges, no problem.
Tried them again now that in a level 13.. Holy $hit!! Way harder!

Pogo27
05-12-2011, 12:51 AM
Yea, as I said, I wouldn't mind the challenges getting harder as you ranked if you could complete the challenges with any class. But you can't. If I were an engineer and putting all my upgrade points in to the engineer class, I'd have the upgraded turret and could place two mines, etc. and I might better be able to handle Tower Defense and Escort, for example. But that's not the case.

I'm a medic. And the challenges get tougher, but I don't have any upgrades for the classes used for the challenges, so it's pretty dumb.

Double O Slevin
05-12-2011, 01:59 AM
Honestly, I though it was all pretty easy, a couple of hiccups here and there, but simple overall. The only time I had real trouble was the final wave(s) on 3 Stars for Defense Tower, and it was because I stayed in the middle by the command post instead of running around, and putting myself in a better position. Once I did that I passed it on the first try. Either way, just keep working at it, you'll get it in no time!

EDIT: And I didn't start until I was around lvl 7... Just FYI

Quid Squid
05-12-2011, 04:05 AM
Ya I def. think it's based on your rank. I also wonder if you can use a new character for each challenge?

Just did this and beat all challenges in about an hour. Ended up level 5 when it was all done. Only abilities I added were ones given to you from the start, even when hitting rank 2 I didn't add any. Kept my guy on medium build. Didn't fail one mission.

Gun 1 was a carb 9
Gun 2 was the Tampa smg

If you already have a character that did some of the challenges the weapon unlocks DO Carry over to your new character.

For engineer missions I felt it was more of a hassle to use the turret because they would eventually get hacked and become one more thing to destroy or attack you. Just use mines.

Also on the Objectives challenge watch out, your objectives can move from the last time you played it. Mine were going all over the place.

GGDoubleG
05-12-2011, 04:39 AM
Can the challenges be played with friends as co-op?

Quid Squid
05-12-2011, 04:46 AM
Can the challenges be played with friends as co-op?

You can play them with friends but nothing will unlock. You must play solo to get the achievements and weapon unlocks

GGDoubleG
05-12-2011, 05:13 AM
You can play them with friends but nothing will unlock. You must play solo to get the achievements and weapon unlocks

Thanks dude! :)

xhunterrrr
05-12-2011, 06:22 AM
What the hell am I doing wrong?! I get destroyed on one star Be More Objective when trying to use the engineer on the second objective!

Wurtin
05-12-2011, 07:34 AM
I agree that setting the difficulty down to easy helped a bit, but I was already level 18 when I was trying these and a couple of the 3 stars were pretty difficult still.

I then made a new level 1 character, and beat all the missions in about 1.5 hours. It was so much easier as level 1, I think I died 3-4 times total over all missions and finished at level 6.

I didn't see it posted, but all of the missions need to be completed 3 star on the same character for the achievement to pop.

VELVETxASSASSIN
05-12-2011, 08:52 AM
I agree that setting the difficulty down to easy helped a bit, but I was already level 18 when I was trying these and a couple of the 3 stars were pretty difficult still.

I then made a new level 1 character, and beat all the missions in about 1.5 hours. It was so much easier as level 1, I think I died 3-4 times total over all missions and finished at level 6.

I didn't see it posted, but all of the missions need to be completed 3 star on the same character for the achievement to pop.

Same here. I also created a new character and set the diffulculty to easy n i beat BMO n TD on the 1st try. I had to replay the 3 star challenge for ED once but i beat it the next go round. definately easier with a new character.

FarmerJay
05-12-2011, 11:09 AM
switching to a lower difficulty absolutely does work. i was a level 10 and spent over 3 hours getting owned on the 2 star objective challenge. i was getting downed with like 2 shots. switched it to easy, beat both 2 and 3 star on the first try each with plenty of time to spare. i could immediately tell that i was able to take much more damage.

Necrophage33
05-12-2011, 02:17 PM
switching to a lower difficulty absolutely does work. i was a level 10 and spent over 3 hours getting owned on the 2 star objective challenge. i was getting downed with like 2 shots. switched it to easy, beat both 2 and 3 star on the first try each with plenty of time to spare. i could immediately tell that i was able to take much more damage.

Thank god if that works because I spent an hour last night trying to beat Be More Objective on 2-star difficulty and it was literally not possible. I couldn't even get close to the generator because of the unlimited respawn of enemies RIGHT NEXT TO IT. This game is so poorly designed it isn't even funny.

I love how they try to design a game that revolves around team work, yet you have to do the challenges solo and your AI teammates don't do a damn thing to help!

FarmerJay
05-12-2011, 05:27 PM
Thank god if that works because I spent an hour last night trying to beat Be More Objective on 2-star difficulty and it was literally not possible. I couldn't even get close to the generator because of the unlimited respawn of enemies RIGHT NEXT TO IT. This game is so poorly designed it isn't even funny.

I love how they try to design a game that revolves around team work, yet you have to do the challenges solo and your AI teammates don't do a damn thing to help!

I kept getting stuck at the hacking part. Everytime I would get it half way, I would be somehow instantly killed and they would always reset it before I could get back. With the difficulty lower, once you start taking damage, you can stop, take cover, kill a few baddies, and then resume when it's clear.

tkhbecker
05-12-2011, 09:21 PM
Thanks for the Info... Worked like a charm... Too bad I suck at Free Running

GDMFS0AB
05-13-2011, 02:56 PM
Just done "be more objective".


I think this method is a placebo effect, but who cares. It's working right now! Last achievement here we come.

SWAGGART
05-13-2011, 04:31 PM
Thanks for the tip

Laronvas
05-13-2011, 05:42 PM
Just some more tips for people who may like the challenge but feel cheated..

As you level up/rank up the bots you compete against due too so it becomes harder but you will be able to taylor your character to complete each challenge.

Objective map stage 3 can be done through sheer luck if the bots on your team follow you up to the hack stage but if not you get around rank 2-3-4 and spend the operative points in hack turrent...the enemy AI will often drop a turrent near your hack console. You can hack it and get a friend that way to protect you.
Also it's not really said except through luck/tip between maps but once you place a hackbox you can get away from the console some and still slowly hack it.

Tower Defense challenge can be easier simply by matching your abilities, body size, and weapons on your playstyle. I beat it finally around rank 3 with improved console, medium turrent, and heavy body with 1 heavy machine gun using drum mags for max bulllets w/o reloading to mow down waves of enemies. (Land mine the console too so you can back off it as needed.

DMichaels86
05-13-2011, 06:20 PM
This would have been handy if I didn't already 3 star all of the challenges, the first challenge is the worst..

Jdogg1415
05-13-2011, 07:17 PM
I beat all 4 and i did not get my achievements do i have to do it on solo?

Laronvas
05-13-2011, 07:47 PM
I found it a little easier to get to this point but struggle once I hit this part...cant even imagine what they make you do for the 3 star!

It's the same crap except they move the objective points directly next to the enemy bots or in the enemy bots easy access path so they're ALWAYS on you like flys to shat before you can figure out where they're coming from.

GreyTemplar
05-13-2011, 07:51 PM
I beat all 4 and i did not get my achievements do i have to do it on solo?

Yes, the achievement will not pop unless you do it Solo.

Aeternox
05-14-2011, 01:53 AM
this worked for me thanks

I CR0W I
05-14-2011, 05:09 AM
I think most of you just gave up too easily. I was a 3-star rank, medium build character when I decided to start on the challenges and they weren't even that hard.

Be More Objective is just a case of class switching as fast as possible and bum rushing the next objective before the AI gets stuck in. If you die or mess up just take an alternate route while they're distracted by the garbage friendlies. Move around and "Teabag" when doing objectives that leave you exposed to become a harder target.

Escort Duty only becomes a challenge at the end, I did it first try so it's not even that bad. Just make sure you frag out the robot whenever you spawn so you can destroy mines and knock the enemy on their arses. Kill any enemies that are getting cocky and leave the rest while you repair, watch the radar to make sure nobody is flanking round, you can move aroudn and keep the robot between you and the enemy (more viable early on)

Tower Defence was probably the hardest for me, I found the 30 second recapture timer a little harsh (probably a pain in the arse if you choose heavy build) when there's an overall timer as well, but I dealt with it.
I planted a landmine at the top of the stairs (left of CP) or in the gap to the right of the CP, then I set up a light turret back/left facing the stairs and blocking the bridge. The turret is mainly a distraction. Try to make sure you have one of each set up at all times.
Early rounds I just sniped to get through the dregs, shit only got real on wave 3-1. It was around 2-1 that I switched to the Mossberg shotgun and an SMG. The shotgun is AMAZING for when you get bum rushed and if you die you can get them off the CP and out of the way quickly.
Try to take out the heavies and medium build guys priority one (but obviously kill any lights if the opportunity presents itself). The light build guys tend to hang back and try for hit and run tactics so when they're the only ones left it's just a case of crouching at the CP and popping them one by one (eyes on the radar, they like to run in and knock you down).
Just remember to buff your damage especially for 3-1. Whenever you have one enemy left (usually light) make sure to set up a fresh mine/turret if you don't have one before killing him and ending the wave.

This one still only took about 3 tries. You guys should give Ninja Gaiden 2 a try.

DMichaels86
05-14-2011, 08:09 AM
Its always nice to find glitches that actually help instead of hurt you. My friends thank you, they couldnt get past some of the 2 star challenges HAHAHA

RealPlumpBox
05-14-2011, 12:25 PM
I cant for the life of me get the third star for tower deference. I am going nuts i can usually make it to the last wave of 2 sometimes the first of 3 . any good and cheap methods? shit i am willing to mail my damn hard drive to someone to freaking do it for me its that bad. and i also started with a new character also.

HammersMark
05-14-2011, 06:10 PM
Using this method plus starting with a level one char I got the Achieve in about an hour. Thanks for the tip as I was pulling my hair out trying to do the challenges while i was level 12+

GreyTemplar
05-14-2011, 07:00 PM
I cant for the life of me get the third star for tower deference. I am going nuts i can usually make it to the last wave of 2 sometimes the first of 3 . any good and cheap methods? shit i am willing to mail my damn hard drive to someone to freaking do it for me its that bad. and i also started with a new character also.

Underslung grenade launcher on a gerund or euston, and an smg of your choice. Heavy body.

everything is fine till 3rd set. You get knocked off the platform or killed, run back out and shoot a grenade at the CC, knocking over anyone around it, then charge up with smg taking out what you can.

Took me 3 tries after i realized there is an exit closer to the back of the CC where you can target fire with your grenade >.>

xMANNY FRE5Hx
05-15-2011, 07:06 AM
What a difference switching it to easy made. Thanks for the great tip!

Necrophage33
05-15-2011, 07:07 PM
I cant for the life of me get the third star for tower deference. I am going nuts i can usually make it to the last wave of 2 sometimes the first of 3 . any good and cheap methods? shit i am willing to mail my damn hard drive to someone to freaking do it for me its that bad. and i also started with a new character also.

I just got it without using any turrets. It was a new character so I had nothing unlocked. I didn't die at all either. Here's all I used:

Kross SMG
Red Dot Sight
Front Grip
Drum Mag

Not only is it pinpoint accurate, but with the drum mag I was easily able to take out all 3 members of a wave in one clip. Just aim for the chest/head. This gun is really accurate, so you won't have to deal with recoil. Take out all three guys in one clip, and reload after each wave. Also use the command post to refill ammo after each wave as well.

I planted a mine near the command post but no one even got close enough to set it off.

Also, don't forget to buff your damage.

RealPlumpBox
05-18-2011, 10:07 AM
@Necrophage33 I used your build with a shotgun as a secondary and useing a heavy. I got it ion my first try FINALY and only died once. Man this took for ever before I asked all you guys for help. Also thanks to Grey Templar for the advice it also helped!!!!

Dervius
05-18-2011, 11:49 AM
A friend of mine whos brand new to the game got 2 and 3 star BMO first try, after I (at level 18) was struggling like hell. After boasting for a few hours I finally managed to get BMO on two stars only to get my arse handed to me on 3. After reading this thread that gloating bastard is gettin schooled. Thanks people.