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Dark Anaconda
03-25-2012, 12:55 PM
Hey guys ,so after playing all the NG Modes + NM Mode ,i think now i am able to give a clear opinion about NG3.

In this thread we should write about the contents which NG3 really needs to be a true NG Game.

Its always interesting to hear the opinions of Veterans ,so lets get started ladies and gentlemans. I want to hear your opinions too, but please make it nice and give a comment if you already finished the game.

Story: http://www.xbox360achievements.org/forum/data:image/jpeg;base64,/9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQAAAQABAAD/2wCEAAkGBggGBQkIBwgKCQkKDRYODQwMDRoTFBAWHxwhIB8cHh 4jJzIqIyUvJR4eKzssLzM1OCw4LSo9QTw2QTI3ODUBCQoKDQwN GQ4OGTUkHiQsLDU1NTU1NTU1NjU1KSwpKTU1NTU1NTUpNTUsNi w1NSwpKSwsKTYuLjUpKSk2LCwpNv/AABEIACIAIgMBIgACEQEDEQH/xAAbAAEAAgIDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgcEBQECA//EAC0QAAEDAgMGBAcAAAAAAAAAAAEAAgMEBQYREiExQVFSgRQiY XEHEzI0Q5Hw/8QAGAEAAwEBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQFAgP/xAAfEQABAwQDAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQIDBBESQRMxMiH/2gAMAwEAAhEDEQA/ALwRYVwvNFatHjZxFrz05gnPLfuSgvNDc2uNHUsl0/UBsI7Fc+RmWN/pjNuWN/p7VdXDRUz56h4ZGwZuJWmGOLLp1OqSwc3MIA7qKYsxCbvWGGFw FHAdhz2PI3uPpyWPgnCgxRNHebrETaonZ0VNI37gj8rx09I47+ Wc5tXJNOrIbYp2oilS+WbCLynalotc17Q5rgQRmCCi7ZDkiqlE 1d+w/SYht/h6xpDmnVFMzY+J3U0/wPFVpUQV9huU1HUuEdQGEF0exssZ2ah6HiOB/at9aTFOH2362aWBrayDN9O88DxaT0ncex4BIVtIk7Lt9J0JVdM krbp6TorS22Z2J79BZ8iKXT8+ucDllCDsZ7vOz2DlccUbIImxx sDGMAa1rRkGgbgAov8ADuyS2yyzVVbC+GtuExlkjkHmjaPKxnZ oz9yVK1uip+CFG72bpYOGNG72coiJwaCIiACIiACIiAP/2Q==http://msdn.microsoft.com/dynimg/IC309562.gif

Comment
Its not better than the previous NG Games ,but who cares about the story in NG? NG is not known for a good storyline ,so don`t give a damn ladies and gentleman.

Steel on Bone/Dismemberment: http://www.xbox360achievements.org/forum/data:image/jpeg;base64,/9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQAAAQABAAD/2wCEAAkGBggGBQkIBwgKCQkKDRYODQwMDRoTFBAWHxwhIB8cHh 4jJzIqIyUvJR4eKzssLzM1OCw4LSo9QTw2QTI3ODUBCQoKDQwN GQ4OGTUkHiQsLDU1NTU1NTU1NjU1KSwpKTU1NTU1NTUpNTUsNi w1NSwpKSwsKTYuLjUpKSk2LCwpNv/AABEIACIAIgMBIgACEQEDEQH/xAAbAAEAAgIDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgcEBQECA//EAC0QAAEDAgMGBAcAAAAAAAAAAAEAAgMEBQYREiExQVFSgRQiY XEHEzI0Q5Hw/8QAGAEAAwEBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQFAgP/xAAfEQABAwQDAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQIDBBESQRMxMiH/2gAMAwEAAhEDEQA/ALwRYVwvNFatHjZxFrz05gnPLfuSgvNDc2uNHUsl0/UBsI7Fc+RmWN/pjNuWN/p7VdXDRUz56h4ZGwZuJWmGOLLp1OqSwc3MIA7qKYsxCbvWGGFw FHAdhz2PI3uPpyWPgnCgxRNHebrETaonZ0VNI37gj8rx09I47+ Wc5tXJNOrIbYp2oilS+WbCLynalotc17Q5rgQRmCCi7ZDkiqlE 1d+w/SYht/h6xpDmnVFMzY+J3U0/wPFVpUQV9huU1HUuEdQGEF0exssZ2ah6HiOB/at9aTFOH2362aWBrayDN9O88DxaT0ncex4BIVtIk7Lt9J0JVdM krbp6TorS22Z2J79BZ8iKXT8+ucDllCDsZ7vOz2DlccUbIImxx sDGMAa1rRkGgbgAov8ADuyS2yyzVVbC+GtuExlkjkHmjaPKxnZ oz9yVK1uip+CFG72bpYOGNG72coiJwaCIiACIiACIiAP/2Q==http://msdn.microsoft.com/dynimg/IC309562.gif

Comment: Ok i know we all love dismemberment but honestly the "Ugly Sound" of breaking bones is also badass don`t you think? I mean ok Steel on Bone + Dismemberment would be perfect ,but hey i think Steel on Bone isn`t that bad ,its acceptable for me now afterwards

Music and Voice Acting: http://www.xbox360achievements.org/forum/data:image/jpeg;base64,/9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQAAAQABAAD/2wCEAAkGBggGBQkIBwgKCQkKDRYODQwMDRoTFBAWHxwhIB8cHh 4jJzIqIyUvJR4eKzssLzM1OCw4LSo9QTw2QTI3ODUBCQoKDQwN GQ4OGTUkHiQsLDU1NTU1NTU1NjU1KSwpKTU1NTU1NTUpNTUsNi w1NSwpKSwsKTYuLjUpKSk2LCwpNv/AABEIACIAIgMBIgACEQEDEQH/xAAbAAEAAgIDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgcEBQECA//EAC0QAAEDAgMGBAcAAAAAAAAAAAEAAgMEBQYREiExQVFSgRQiY XEHEzI0Q5Hw/8QAGAEAAwEBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQFAgP/xAAfEQABAwQDAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQIDBBESQRMxMiH/2gAMAwEAAhEDEQA/ALwRYVwvNFatHjZxFrz05gnPLfuSgvNDc2uNHUsl0/UBsI7Fc+RmWN/pjNuWN/p7VdXDRUz56h4ZGwZuJWmGOLLp1OqSwc3MIA7qKYsxCbvWGGFw FHAdhz2PI3uPpyWPgnCgxRNHebrETaonZ0VNI37gj8rx09I47+ Wc5tXJNOrIbYp2oilS+WbCLynalotc17Q5rgQRmCCi7ZDkiqlE 1d+w/SYht/h6xpDmnVFMzY+J3U0/wPFVpUQV9huU1HUuEdQGEF0exssZ2ah6HiOB/at9aTFOH2362aWBrayDN9O88DxaT0ncex4BIVtIk7Lt9J0JVdM krbp6TorS22Z2J79BZ8iKXT8+ucDllCDsZ7vOz2DlccUbIImxx sDGMAa1rRkGgbgAov8ADuyS2yyzVVbC+GtuExlkjkHmjaPKxnZ oz9yVK1uip+CFG72bpYOGNG72coiJwaCIiACIiACIiAP/2Q==http://msdn.microsoft.com/dynimg/IC309562.gif

Comment: The Music is amazing in my opinion ,the Main Theme and the Battle themes are really good, the voice actors are fitting well. I am always playing it with japanese voices but the english voice actor is also really good.


Weapons and Ninpos: http://www.texarkanagazette.com/joe/imagesX/redX_sm.png

Comments: We really need new Weapons because its getting repetitive, but hey there are going to be 2 new Weapons ,Falcon Claws and the Sycthe as a FREE DLC. So yeah this are good news, maybe they wanted us to feel the "Katana Steel on Bonce Concept" in the first place and after some weeks of gameplay and after enjoying the Sword on Steel Concept, they will bring out new weapons...maybe thats what they are thinking.
For the Ninpo...they should bring out new Ninpos as well...i mean i can understand that they wanted to make this game with only using Katana but this doesn`t mean that you should also have 1 Ninpo...i hope they change this.

Moveset: http://www.xbox360achievements.org/forum/data:image/jpeg;base64,/9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQAAAQABAAD/2wCEAAkGBggGBQkIBwgKCQkKDRYODQwMDRoTFBAWHxwhIB8cHh 4jJzIqIyUvJR4eKzssLzM1OCw4LSo9QTw2QTI3ODUBCQoKDQwN GQ4OGTUkHiQsLDU1NTU1NTU1NjU1KSwpKTU1NTU1NTUpNTUsNi w1NSwpKSwsKTYuLjUpKSk2LCwpNv/AABEIACIAIgMBIgACEQEDEQH/xAAbAAEAAgIDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgcEBQECA//EAC0QAAEDAgMGBAcAAAAAAAAAAAEAAgMEBQYREiExQVFSgRQiY XEHEzI0Q5Hw/8QAGAEAAwEBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQFAgP/xAAfEQABAwQDAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQIDBBESQRMxMiH/2gAMAwEAAhEDEQA/ALwRYVwvNFatHjZxFrz05gnPLfuSgvNDc2uNHUsl0/UBsI7Fc+RmWN/pjNuWN/p7VdXDRUz56h4ZGwZuJWmGOLLp1OqSwc3MIA7qKYsxCbvWGGFw FHAdhz2PI3uPpyWPgnCgxRNHebrETaonZ0VNI37gj8rx09I47+ Wc5tXJNOrIbYp2oilS+WbCLynalotc17Q5rgQRmCCi7ZDkiqlE 1d+w/SYht/h6xpDmnVFMzY+J3U0/wPFVpUQV9huU1HUuEdQGEF0exssZ2ah6HiOB/at9aTFOH2362aWBrayDN9O88DxaT0ncex4BIVtIk7Lt9J0JVdM krbp6TorS22Z2J79BZ8iKXT8+ucDllCDsZ7vOz2DlccUbIImxx sDGMAa1rRkGgbgAov8ADuyS2yyzVVbC+GtuExlkjkHmjaPKxnZ oz9yVK1uip+CFG72bpYOGNG72coiJwaCIiACIiACIiAP/2Q== http://msdn.microsoft.com/dynimg/IC309562.gif

Comment: First i was like: OMG where is the big moveset like in the previous games? But if you really look all of the movesets ,you will recognize that it has pretty much the same amount of movesets like in the previous games. I made another topic especially for this ,so you can understand there what i am trying to say.

Difficulty: http://www.xbox360achievements.org/forum/data:image/jpeg;base64,/9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQAAAQABAAD/2wCEAAkGBggGBQkIBwgKCQkKDRYODQwMDRoTFBAWHxwhIB8cHh 4jJzIqIyUvJR4eKzssLzM1OCw4LSo9QTw2QTI3ODUBCQoKDQwN GQ4OGTUkHiQsLDU1NTU1NTU1NjU1KSwpKTU1NTU1NTUpNTUsNi w1NSwpKSwsKTYuLjUpKSk2LCwpNv/AABEIACIAIgMBIgACEQEDEQH/xAAbAAEAAgIDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgcEBQECA//EAC0QAAEDAgMGBAcAAAAAAAAAAAEAAgMEBQYREiExQVFSgRQiY XEHEzI0Q5Hw/8QAGAEAAwEBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQFAgP/xAAfEQABAwQDAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQIDBBESQRMxMiH/2gAMAwEAAhEDEQA/ALwRYVwvNFatHjZxFrz05gnPLfuSgvNDc2uNHUsl0/UBsI7Fc+RmWN/pjNuWN/p7VdXDRUz56h4ZGwZuJWmGOLLp1OqSwc3MIA7qKYsxCbvWGGFw FHAdhz2PI3uPpyWPgnCgxRNHebrETaonZ0VNI37gj8rx09I47+ Wc5tXJNOrIbYp2oilS+WbCLynalotc17Q5rgQRmCCi7ZDkiqlE 1d+w/SYht/h6xpDmnVFMzY+J3U0/wPFVpUQV9huU1HUuEdQGEF0exssZ2ah6HiOB/at9aTFOH2362aWBrayDN9O88DxaT0ncex4BIVtIk7Lt9J0JVdM krbp6TorS22Z2J79BZ8iKXT8+ucDllCDsZ7vOz2DlccUbIImxx sDGMAa1rRkGgbgAov8ADuyS2yyzVVbC+GtuExlkjkHmjaPKxnZ oz9yVK1uip+CFG72bpYOGNG72coiJwaCIiACIiACIiAP/2Q==http://msdn.microsoft.com/dynimg/IC309562.gif

Comment: Ok its not that hard like NG Black or NG2 NM Mode ,but with Ultimate Ninja Master Mode we will have a challenge i think, and honestly i don`t think everybody will play it or beat it , i wish there would be an achievement for this ,to prove your skills, but hey i think Ultimate Ninja Master Mode will have pretty much the same Difficulty Level like NG Black or NG2? I have faith in this.

Stages/Enemies/Boss Fights: http://www.texarkanagazette.com/joe/imagesX/redX_sm.png

Stages:

The good thing: The Level Design was ok for me.

Well...the Stages have much encounters and it looks like more of a Test of Vaor thing to me.
I think they made so much encounters because it has only 8 Stages..in the previous games you have like 13/14 Stages. Maybe they were like: Ok we will give you 8 stages but it will feel like you are going for 14 Stages.
But honestly they could have make much more

Enemies/Boss Fights:

But what i fucking hate are the lack of enemies...i mean there aren`t so much different type of enemies ,which is really fucked up...and i don`t think there would be a DLC for this, because if they bring up new enemies ,the game could be either easier or harder ,which means people who are going for achievements would be like " i am not downloading this because the game will getting harder because of new/harder enemies ,or people would be like "hey go and get the new Enemy-DLC the game is getting easier with the new enemies!" > i don`t think they would bring new enemies for the story mode....

The Boss Fights are also annoying as hell ,the first fight against Regent of the Mask was nice...but the second fight wasn`t neccessary...this was annoying..the third fight against Theodore was ok.

More Stages, more Enemies, more EPIC Badass Boss Fights would have been nice..
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Hope somebody can write something about Multiplayer and Coop ,i played them but just a few times ,so i am looking for somebody who played them a lot.

And fuck yeah i was one of those who said "Omg they destroyed NG3!! but now i am going to think a little bit different..its not that bad but...some content is just missing badly...

jackofblades
03-25-2012, 01:18 PM
and yet you was talking shit about it

Dark Anaconda
03-25-2012, 01:23 PM
Yes i talked much shit about it in the first place, thats true bro ,but i didn`t changed my opinion completly ,there are still things which i don`t like but its not that bad anymore.

I am excited about the new weapons ,wish they could bring up more.

a7x4lyf3
03-25-2012, 01:30 PM
Just a little question, I've seen you say NM alot, are you meaning Master Ninja difficulty? If so, that'd be MN lol

jackofblades
03-25-2012, 01:30 PM
Yes the Dlc weapons will be nice hoping for more then 2

Dark Anaconda
03-25-2012, 01:46 PM
Just a little question, I've seen you say NM alot, are you meaning Master Ninja difficulty? If so, that'd be MN lol


Ohh sorry XD in germany we say NM > Ninja Master Mode ,but yeah i forgot about that i mean MN ,Master Ninja Mode ,sorry my bad.

Does somebody actually know the release date of the Weapon DLC`s?

I am also excited to fight against Doku, would like to know the release date of the Boss Enemy DLC too.

I didn`t played the Multiplayer that much ,what can you guys say about that?

a7x4lyf3
03-25-2012, 02:07 PM
Ohh sorry XD in germany we say NM > Ninja Master Mode ,but yeah i forgot about that i mean MN ,Master Ninja Mode ,sorry my bad.

Does somebody actually know the release date of the Weapon DLC`s?

I am also excited to fight against Doku, would like to know the release date of the Boss Enemy DLC too.

I didn`t played the Multiplayer that much ,what can you guys say about that?Oh I didn't know that xD haha, and as for the DLC. April 3rd we get Falcon's Talon's and the submarine multiplayer map, April 17th we get Eclipse Scythe and desert multiplayer map, as for the Ninja Trials involving bosses like Doku, Alma, Zedonius, etc. No word has been said on those yet.

jackofblades
03-25-2012, 02:17 PM
As long as there no more online bassed acievements added

OZI GAMER4
03-25-2012, 03:50 PM
So just wondering after you complete Master Ninja in single player you unlock Ultimate Ninja Master Mode?

CyberEvil
03-25-2012, 04:46 PM
No. That's DLC.

The Dauntless
03-25-2012, 07:08 PM
Im not sure whether someone hacked this guys account or if there is some sort of hypntoic/subliminal message at the end of the game, BUT this game is junk!


You listed all the terrible aspects of the game then either said "But it doesnt matter" or "Actually its good".

There is a reason why everyone hates this game (except of course people that have loyalty to the developer company for some unknown reason - I mean try calling them up and saying you are a fan but cant pay for the game, see if they are understanding and help you out... or is this just one way loyalty?).

But honestly this game is a grotesque, affront to the previous games, fans and customers. Its a horrendous, embarrassing disaster. And sorry but if you think this game is good you dont know ANYTHING about games.

xTGMx INF3RNO
03-25-2012, 07:19 PM
apart from lack of everything from ng2. Its still a good game but a big step back from 2. However the grab moves from enemies are fucking ridiculous sometimes that would be my main complaint. Just add more weapons and gameplay for 2 e.g dismemberment then it would be brilliant

EDIT: Oh and bring the ninpo back..

Devolon
03-25-2012, 07:29 PM
Good thread, but I can't help but noticing that you didn't say anything about the total lack of anything to do outside combat. NG1+2 forced you to manage your items, explore a bit to find useful stuff, choose which weapon to upgrade and so on. I enjoyed managing my playthroughs, I'm sad this is gone. And it gave the games some replay value, I can't see any reason for a second NG3 story mode playthrough outside of achievements, especially since the fights are more challenging and more varied in ninja trials. I completed NG2 14 times, NGB around 8, there's just no reason whatsoever to do the same in NG3 IMO.

Dark Anaconda
03-25-2012, 07:42 PM
Im not sure whether someone hacked this guys account or if there is some sort of hypntoic/subliminal message at the end of the game, BUT this game is junk!


You listed all the terrible aspects of the game then either said "But it doesnt matter" or "Actually its good".

There is a reason why everyone hates this game (except of course people that have loyalty to the developer company for some unknown reason - I mean try calling them up and saying you are a fan but cant pay for the game, see if they are understanding and help you out... or is this just one way loyalty?).

But honestly this game is a grotesque, affront to the previous games, fans and customers. Its a horrendous, embarrassing disaster. And sorry but if you think this game is good you dont know ANYTHING about games.

Don`t get me wrong dude Ninja Gaiden is my most favourite game of all time, i could write you a book about the failure of NG3.,i was screaming out that this game is a huge disappointment ,but i am just trying to "accept" it ,even if its really hard to do that.

I waited so fucking long for this but i got disappointed, i am trying to accept it before falling in absolute madness.

Do you know what i mean?

I will enjoy it as much as i can ,and i will complete it but after that i will switch to DMC HD Collection.

Shigurui
03-25-2012, 09:47 PM
Agree with enemy variation, the current ones get old fast, and he should make ones you can actually fight properly. Those dodging bullshit grab happy Alchemists and Chimera and those OP Brutes are virtually impossible to fight without resorting to rinse and repeat running XX moves or wearing them down with the bow, Hayashi should make a fucking Archery game.

CyberEvil
03-25-2012, 09:56 PM
Agree with enemy variation, the current ones get old fast, and he should make ones you can actually fight properly. Those dodging bullshit grab happy Alchemists and Chimera and those OP Brutes are virtually impossible to fight without resorting to rinse and repeat running XX moves or wearing them down with the bow, Hayashi should make a fucking Archery game.


He did. It's called Master Ninja difficulty.