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TheThreeStooges
04-19-2012, 05:21 PM
I gotta hold the left trigger to aim then press down on the thumb stick to look through my red dot really!?!?

acurate bob
04-19-2012, 07:18 PM
just one of the many things wrong with this game, in the very short time i have played it, i already dont want it...

Demolition D
04-19-2012, 07:30 PM
Close quarters you dont need to aim{fire from hip}, medium range you only need to aim at target so you lose your Peripheral. Longer or holding down a spot or camp you need to zoom.

It's just the style and it's not for everyone. Just have to adapt to the game.

Just stick it out a little longer.

The Bum-Mobile
04-19-2012, 07:31 PM
How else would you suggest doing it? I recall Gears of War having similar mechanics...

PhantomNemesis
04-19-2012, 07:42 PM
Standard aim is firing from the hip, LT aims from the shoulder, Right Stick uses Iron Sights. Its in different stages of accuracy, it doesn't make the most sense but it works well when you see the difference between your sight and the shoulder aim.

Hammerburst in Gears 3 works the exact same way, in this case it works far better from what I've seen.

TheThreeStooges
04-19-2012, 08:15 PM
please dont get it wrong i enjoy it i think the customization is cool and up above poster yeah it will take a lot of getting use too, for me having to aim with right thumb stick is a little bit rough because u have to have quick reaction time, Hip firing accuracy is really bad when u hold down the left trigger, I was holding the left trigger down and shooting going wtf why is this guy not dying and my aiming going all over the place then i figured out u have to press down on the right thumb stick but still in my opinion poor design choice, I find it would be alot better to make the left trigger aim and zoom and for the sniper just press the right thumb stick to zoom further

Ayx
04-19-2012, 08:39 PM
You make it seem like aiming with the Right Stick is hard. Halo does it, Gears does it. Plus it's a 3rd Person shooter having a 1st person feature that only a chosen few will really use.

savok1
04-19-2012, 08:54 PM
I hated it too, Just takes some getting use to after playing bf3 and cod all this time I think

SuperJoon
04-19-2012, 09:46 PM
One reason i probably wont get this game. Cant handle the controls. By the time ive pressed to aim im dead. Pointless.

TheThreeStooges
04-19-2012, 09:58 PM
I feel the same exact way ^ up above poster

Strid
04-19-2012, 11:02 PM
That's what happens when you spend all your time in a CoD or BF game (no hate here, I enjoy me some BF and CoD4). The next Tom Clancy comes out and you think running around a map like a chicken with its head cut off is a good strategy, you know, since it works in both of those games fairly well. Want to be decent? Slow down and think.

WalterWhite
04-20-2012, 05:26 AM
I loved Rainbow Six: Vegas 1 and 2 but only played a very little bit of the Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter games and the one thing I felt about all of them is there were way too many actions assigned to each button. They felt much better suited for mouse and keyboard play. Every button on the XBOX controller has like 4 functions. Big learning curve here especially if you come from the school of Call of Duty and Battlefield, both technically and more so tactically.

Strid
04-20-2012, 07:29 AM
Actually, after spending an entire evening and night with it, I'm more inclined to agree with the OP now, though for different reasons. Networking issues completely aside, this game is atrocious.

PatrykO5
04-20-2012, 07:33 AM
I used to want this game, but not anymore.

Burnout x360a
04-20-2012, 10:39 AM
I seem to recall most (not sure if every game had it) of the TC titles having similar controls and i'm fine with it.

Although if you only play COD then you'll probably get frustrated very fast.

Gackt
04-20-2012, 03:11 PM
I gotta hold the left trigger to aim then press down on the thumb stick to look through my red dot really!?!?

Want to play a shitty fps, go play Call of Duty. Ghost Recon isn't first person so what do you want to happen when you pull the left trigger in a 3rd person tactical shooter? If it snapped into first person every time you pulled the left trigger that would be hideous.

Burnout x360a
04-20-2012, 03:15 PM
Want to play a shitty fps, go play Call of Duty. Ghost Recon isn't first person so what do you want to happen when you pull the left trigger in a 3rd person tactical shooter? If it snapped into first person every time you pulled the left trigger that would be hideous.

Some people don't understand what 'Third Person Shooter' dictates unfortunately.

TheThreeStooges
04-20-2012, 04:32 PM
@Gackt listen you aint gotta be a prick a bout it Gears of war 3 is third person and has a better Aiming and targeting system, Why make a the left trigger hip fire when you can just do that without pressing the damn button makes no sense thats all Im trying to point out, I didnt say the games sucks just said the controls are stupid, Why would you make someone hip fire by pressing a button gears of war 3 hip fire no button press just shoot left trigger pull zoom and shoot and I believe it was press right thumb stick to zoom further with the sniper...

hell even the 50 cent game had a good control set up

tankbuster
04-20-2012, 07:38 PM
One reason i probably wont get this game. Cant handle the controls. By the time ive pressed to aim im dead. Pointless.


Sounds like me, so I just shoot from the hip and run for the hills lol praying I don't get shot in the keister.

Sir Goatfather
04-20-2012, 09:48 PM
People aren't liking this game? For reasons like this? Wh... what?

IrishGorilla64
04-20-2012, 10:27 PM
I think it is a solid shooter and a breath of fresh air from the mindless FPS's

a7x4lyf3
04-20-2012, 11:58 PM
What are you talking about? You don't need to hold down left trigger to aim down sight, just click right stick without holding left trigger, your thread makes no sense anyway how can you possibly complain about this?

TheThreeStooges
04-21-2012, 12:14 AM
Learn to Read before you post

TheThreeStooges
04-21-2012, 12:16 AM
I think it is a solid shooter and a breath of fresh air from the mindless FPS's

I agree it is a breath a fresh air I just gotta get use to the controls on the Aiming, I cant wait to see what they did with the rest of the game

a7x4lyf3
04-21-2012, 01:22 AM
Learn to Read before you postI believe I read everything just fine, you're complaining about holding left trigger to aim then click right stick to go first person, you don't need to hold the left trigger...

R Miller 69
04-21-2012, 02:23 AM
The controls are fine to me. I look at the game knowing that it will only be better and from the few games I have played so far, I'm interested in getting this game now.

Turkdaballa6
04-21-2012, 03:51 PM
It soviet russia game controls dont adapt to you, you adapt to game controls.

Gageamatron
04-23-2012, 09:42 PM
I think it is a solid shooter and a breath of fresh air from the mindless FPS's

Oh god, are you being serious?

This game takes almost every boring aspect from those shooters and smashes it together in to an even more boring product.

I love third-person shooters but this is a boring, ugly, clunky mess.

djpj
04-24-2012, 01:21 PM
Everyone who thinks it's too hard to first press LT and then RS to aim for a longer range is just too fucking retarded. That's how all third persons have worked for years.

Just a tip: aim with LT for up to 10 yards, then press RS for 10+ yards. It's really not that hard, and if you're always too late with aiming and you're already dead, you're just doing something wrong, how would the other person have killed you before you even aimed? Well he's just better than you.

WalterWhite
04-24-2012, 06:48 PM
The controls are fine to me. I look at the game knowing that it will only be better and from the few games I have played so far, I'm interested in getting this game now.

Will it really be better? I bet it's the same as the beta. It releases in like five minutes, you think you're gonna be playing a way better, super polished game? No.

Gageamatron
04-25-2012, 01:33 AM
Will it really be better? I bet it's the same as the beta. It releases in like five minutes, you think you're gonna be playing a way better, super polished game? No.

With the exception of a few, betas are like demos these days. Not much can change in a month. Actually almost nothing will. This is the game people... Get used to it.

upindat
05-09-2012, 04:05 PM
this is a deal breaker for me!! not even a rent.

xTGMx INF3RNO
05-09-2012, 04:22 PM
All ghost recons have this and its a great feature IMO. Handy if you have a sniper is CQB. seriously its a simple click its not cod!

MyPetWorm
05-10-2012, 06:16 AM
All ghost recons have this and its a great feature IMO. Handy if you have a sniper is CQB. seriously its a simple click its not cod!

That is the exact reason I love it, CQB situations with a sniper.

It is amazing how the gaming world has moved over to this simplicity everyone wants. I don't have anything against those that want to mindlessly play games, it can be the most calming thing after a long day, but don't them come complain at a game that requires you to actually think.

This game isn't designed so that absolutley anyone can pick it up and play, like CoD and BF3.

xTGMx INF3RNO
05-10-2012, 01:13 PM
That is the exact reason I love it, CQB situations with a sniper.

It is amazing how the gaming world has moved over to this simplicity everyone wants. I don't have anything against those that want to mindlessly play games, it can be the most calming thing after a long day, but don't them come complain at a game that requires you to actually think.

This game isn't designed so that absolutley anyone can pick it up and play, like CoD and BF3.

Exactly. Ghost recon has always been about team and tactics. Making use of your gadgets. I remember playing graw on normal and ran in like cod i got raped but once i got used to it i loved it. I love being able to aim with the option to use scope or not. Ghost recon for me is probably the best shooter out there.

MyPetWorm
05-11-2012, 06:45 AM
Exactly. Ghost recon has always been about team and tactics. Making use of your gadgets. I remember playing graw on normal and ran in like cod i got raped but once i got used to it i loved it. I love being able to aim with the option to use scope or not. Ghost recon for me is probably the best shooter out there.

My group of achievement hunting buddies went after all the DLC co-op achievements in GRAW 2 not too long ago, and we sucked xD All played it like every other shooter, "Run around like supermen!". Of course, after dying many many times we started playing it as we should and had a fantastic time.

To those who don't like this game, if you play it like most other shooters, it DOES suck. The fun in this game is to be earnt, not just given out :P

sonicmark
05-12-2012, 11:55 AM
I gotta hold the left trigger to aim then press down on the thumb stick to look through my red dot really!?!?

I hear there's specialists that can help you with this problem, all you have to do is give them a call, unless you have a problem using a phone too, then you're screwed.

fastNcurious
05-12-2012, 06:03 PM
My group of achievement hunting buddies went after all the DLC co-op achievements in GRAW 2 not too long ago, and we sucked xD All played it like every other shooter, "Run around like supermen!". Of course, after dying many many times we started playing it as we should and had a fantastic time.


I recently borrowed and played the old GRAW games. I haven't tried the multiplayer yet as I'm trying to complete the campaigns first, and the single player is frustrating as heck. Unclear objectives sometimes, coupled with dumb as brick AI squadmates. I tell them to shoot at a target to our left, then I turn right and think I'll clean up on this side. Next thing I know, I see my squadmates all shooting where I'm shooting and the ONE dude I told my THREE squadmates to kill is still standing there out in the open with 100% health. Retarded.

I know GRFS is being developed years after the first two, but I'm a bit wary now. The AI better not be as stupid. There was a video where they said you should be able to complete the campaign without raising any alarms. If the AI messes me up while I'm trying to do that, I'm gonna be pissed.

Back on topic, pressing down on the right thumbstick to zoom in was a feature in the old GR games as well, and it sucks, at least in single player, for this reason: there is no quick way to get out of it. If you zoom in, pressing down will activate the higher zoom magnification. You need to press twice to fully zoom out. Totally unacceptable when you're suddenly being ambushed.

That said, I had no problems with the zoom in the beta mainly cuz I never used it. Lol.

MyPetWorm
05-13-2012, 07:04 AM
I recently borrowed and played the old GRAW games...___....I know GRFS is being developed years after the first two, but I'm a bit wary now. The AI better not be as stupid.

GRAW 2 came out March 2007. So the AI are over 5 years old. I often like going back to my old games, and playing them always amazes me, as it shows me how far scripting has come in such a short period of time. I played the original Call Of Duty (I think its called classic?) on arcade, and man does it suck. Overall the mechanics aren't much different, but the AI is horrible, and the way the people run...it looks so stupid xD

I'm sure Ubisoft will keep up with the times...well I hope! :p

DjBatfink
05-13-2012, 09:43 AM
That's what happens when you spend all your time in a CoD or BF game (no hate here, I enjoy me some BF and CoD4). The next Tom Clancy comes out and you think running around a map like a chicken with its head cut off is a good strategy, you know, since it works in both of those games fairly well. Want to be decent? Slow down and think.

I have agree with you.
Why people would moan about the control layout i don't know, i play alot of first & third person game's and of course the controls are going to be different, not every shooter game will be the same.
Halo and Gears are great games, the aiming just seems be natural after awhile....
And yes i find that you do have to take your time more when playing Tom Clancy games like Rainbow Six etc compared to CoD or BF.
It's just the different styles of gameplay....

JasonBlade
05-13-2012, 05:52 PM
u know what i find funny...it seems that the majority of the ppl whining & complaining about this game are cod noobs. oh well they can go back to cod for all i care...it will make gr:fs that much better. i thought the beta was pretty damn good...maybe a lot of u guys should learn how to use "controls". they worked fine for me & my friends...lol.

TheThreeStooges
05-14-2012, 07:52 PM
I can see there are a bunch of fan boys in here relax, I only stated the aiming was awkward for me I never played ghost recon and I hate call of duty, Im not use to the left trigger feeling like hip fire and the right thumb stick zoom for me its gonna take some getting use to as for the game itself its nothing special so far its a good game but I can see people spamming certain items over and over but as with most games this is no surprised since this is a beta I can see it being fixed , Would I make this a purchase yes heres why its fun and has a lot of replay value would I say is a Goty NO

McGill 83CANADA
05-15-2012, 02:07 AM
Will it really be better? I bet it's the same as the beta. It releases in like five minutes, you think you're gonna be playing a way better, super polished game? No.

I'm personally gonna wait til I buy the game b4 I judge it, but anyone who could make this comment never tried the GRAW demo. Aim 75 feet from enemy and get a headshot lol.
Or battlefield 3, etc, etc.

GrimSovereignty
05-15-2012, 02:52 AM
Hmmm I still want to get the game. I will just have to get used to it.

Maka
05-15-2012, 02:53 AM
This is Ghost Recon.

Not Call of Duty. There is no running and gunning in this game.

MyPetWorm
05-15-2012, 05:54 AM
I can see there are a bunch of fan boys in here relax, I only stated the aiming was awkward for me

O Rly?

This is Stupid!

If you put someone that has never driven a manual car before into one, the replies "This is awkard for me" and "This is stupid!" have two completly different meanings.

One blames themselves.
The other blames the task in question.

Most people here who seem to be "Fanboys" are more likely just haters of the typical Call of Duty players, who will come in here and say exactly what you said :p

Dark Link IV
05-16-2012, 09:57 PM
Haha, noobs.

PharIVIacisT
05-20-2012, 05:34 PM
how else would you suggest doing it? I recall gears of war having similar mechanics...

only for the snipe, hammerbust, and pistols.

xTGMx INF3RNO
05-20-2012, 05:40 PM
This is ghost recon. If you play on normal you will die in like 2 hits. Its realistic which makes it tactical which is why i like it. Love the drones! Also why BF3 mp kicks COD's ass.

MicroCool
05-22-2012, 05:05 AM
You need to understand that this is a tactical shooter. It's not like Gears, COD etc. if you have played Rainbow Six and the Advanced Warfighter games then there shouldn't be a problem for those players.

IS Achilles SI
05-22-2012, 07:38 AM
I gotta hold the left trigger to aim then press down on the thumb stick to look through my red dot really!?!?
I would have to completly agree with you. I've played a lot of shooters in my time first and third person, and almost always, left trigger brings up iron sights or red dot sight, utterly dissapointed in this game so far. And what's up with Guerrilla mode not set up on matchmaking, rediculous!

Da Doc
05-22-2012, 07:47 AM
I don't know what everyone is crying about. This game is amazing. The single player is very polished. The whole aiming down the sites problem the OP had has been in TCGR since GRAW2. This is like bitching that the lancer in Gears 3 has a chainsaw even though the past games have had it. If you don't like it, don't play it. Simple.

IS Achilles SI
05-22-2012, 08:16 AM
I don't know what everyone is crying about. This game is amazing. The single player is very polished. The whole aiming down the sites problem the OP had has been in TCGR since GRAW2. This is like bitching that the lancer in Gears 3 has a chainsaw even though the past games have had it. If you don't like it, don't play it. Simple.
Who gives a shit about the single player...This game is made and played for the multiplayer aspect. And your reference has no context as to what this thread is about. All shooters bring up iron sights or whatever attacthment you have equipped when you pull the left trigger and this game does not, simple as that. Garbage.

MyPetWorm
05-22-2012, 10:42 AM
Who gives a shit about the single player...This game is made and played for the multiplayer aspect.

Must be pretty blissful in your little world...

And your reference has no context as to what this thread is about. All shooters bring up iron sights or whatever attacthment you have equipped when you pull the left trigger and this game does not, simple as that. Garbage.

His reference was fully in context. All previous titles to this game were done like this, and it worked fine. They're not changing whats not broken. Don't like it? Go back to CoD, everyone wins :D

xTGMx INF3RNO
05-22-2012, 11:43 AM
Every ghost recon does this like i said. And like i said its a great little feature. You get the choice of scope of just a crosshair. Fantastic if your a scout.

Eviltoastman
05-22-2012, 02:06 PM
The company chose to use a review embargo for a reason, because they wanted to ensure poor reviews did not affect pre order sales.

When they know a game is good, they use the positive reviews before a release to help market the release. In this case the game is quite mediocre.

Some of the graphical elements of this game look like they were made for the PS2 and smoothed out for HD. Things look basic and bland. Netcode is clunky and there's a hell of a lot of lag.

Controls have not bee sorted from the GRAW games, which you never truly get used to, they are simply counter intuitive. This is nothing to do with COD or Battlefield. The controls are simply a mess as they always have been. However GRAW 1 & 2 were exceptional and so you played in spite of the control problems and it was very enjoyable too. With this mess, you cannot be so forgiving.

There's very little that I would consider redeeming about this title. GR, GR: Island Thunder, GRAW and GRAW 2 were some of my favourite games, but the series has been in decline just like Splinter Cell. I think Ubisoft a now burying themselves. They have no learned from their mistakes and this title is stuck in 2006.

I'm glad I played a friend's copy, that means when mine arrives tomorrow it can be send straight back for a full refund. Going to buy a case of Scrumpy instead.

jblank
05-22-2012, 02:16 PM
That is the exact reason I love it, CQB situations with a sniper.

It is amazing how the gaming world has moved over to this simplicity everyone wants. I don't have anything against those that want to mindlessly play games, it can be the most calming thing after a long day, but don't them come complain at a game that requires you to actually think.

This game isn't designed so that absolutley anyone can pick it up and play, like CoD and BF3.

With all due respect, that "simplicity" is not about dumbing down the game, it's about making it just feel like it should. The reason CoD and Battlefield are as popular as they are, is because of the feel and control schemes they have, which adds to the fun of the games. Complicated and needlessly complex shooters typically aren't as popular and Ghost Recon Future Soldier isn't going to be a serious competitor to either of those franchises.

xTGMx INF3RNO
05-22-2012, 02:20 PM
Theres nothing wrong with the controls. There almost the same as most other shooter games. Quit moaning

jblank
05-22-2012, 02:46 PM
I hope you aren't addressing me, I'm not moaning, just pointing out that "simple" controls aren't necessarily bad, or indicitive of an easy multiplayer experience.

xTGMx INF3RNO
05-22-2012, 02:54 PM
No i wasn't lol. The guy above.

A Medium Bear
05-22-2012, 02:55 PM
If clicking in a stick to adjust your aim is too difficult, you know you are lacking some mental capacity. I play Gears 3 competitively among other shooters and this is a very common control scheme. I believe even the sniper uses it on Halo.

I can't wait for this game! Looks amazing from what I have seen.

xTGMx INF3RNO
05-22-2012, 03:01 PM
If clicking in a stick to adjust your aim is too difficult, you know you are lacking some mental capacity. I play Gears 3 competitively among other shooters and this is a very common control scheme. I believe even the sniper uses it on Halo.

I can't wait for this game! Looks amazing from what I have seen.

How did i forget that... Gears and Halo use it! Great point made here lol.

TransonicPower
05-22-2012, 04:21 PM
How did i forget that... Gears and Halo use it! Great point made here lol.

Gears3 really uses RS to zoom on sniper (longshot) and a better accuracy for hammerburst. Then of course the snub and Boltok get a slight better zoom, but all other weapons aim with LT only.

MyPetWorm
05-22-2012, 04:39 PM
With all due respect, that "simplicity" is not about dumbing down the game, it's about making it just feel like it should. The reason CoD and Battlefield are as popular as they are, is because of the feel and control schemes they have, which adds to the fun of the games. Complicated and needlessly complex shooters typically aren't as popular and Ghost Recon Future Soldier isn't going to be a serious competitor to either of those franchises.

I never intented to say that simple controls are in games to dumb them down. Simply that simple controls are for a particular audience.

This game isn't aimed at that audience.

If I went to an Opera, I wouldn't go around the audience moaning that it is too slow and boring. Yet in essence thats whats happening here, a different type of gamer is moaning about a game not aimed at them.

I OU a Beatn
05-22-2012, 04:48 PM
I would have to completly agree with you. I've played a lot of shooters in my time first and third person, and almost always, left trigger brings up iron sights or red dot sight, utterly dissapointed in this game so far. And what's up with Guerrilla mode not set up on matchmaking, rediculous!

I have never seen a 3rd person shooter where when you press LT it brings up a red dot. Never. That's how it works in first person shooters, not third.

I really don't see why this is complicated for some people. It's a cover based, TACTICAL shooter. People act like they're trying to run around and quickly scope in when they see an enemy, which obviously isn't going to have a high success rate. The controls are fine and it works the same way a lot of other shooters, namely Gears, do. Quit running around and trying to rely on twitch based mechanics to ger a kill and it'll be a lot more enjoyable.

I can't help but chuckle when I see someone running around the map Call of Duty style...free kill, lol.

xTGMx INF3RNO
05-22-2012, 05:04 PM
I have never seen a 3rd person shooter where when you press LT it brings up a red dot. Never. That's how it works in first person shooters, not third.

I really don't see why this is complicated for some people. It's a cover based, TACTICAL shooter. People act like they're trying to run around and quickly scope in when they see an enemy, which obviously isn't going to have a high success rate. The controls are fine and it works the same way a lot of other shooters, namely Gears, do. Quit running around and trying to rely on twitch based mechanics to ger a kill and it'll be a lot more enjoyable.

I can't help but chuckle when I see someone running around the map Call of Duty style...free kill, lol.

Whats happened is people are bored of COD and have seen a new shooter is coming out and are playing it like COD which will get them nowhere.

Da Doc
05-23-2012, 12:35 AM
Who gives a shit about the single player...This game is made and played for the multiplayer aspect. And your reference has no context as to what this thread is about. All shooters bring up iron sights or whatever attacthment you have equipped when you pull the left trigger and this game does not, simple as that. Garbage.


I can't tell if you're being ignorant on purpose or really believe in the crap that comes out of your mouth.

MyPetWorm
05-23-2012, 12:37 AM
I can't tell if you're being ignorant on purpose or really believe in the crap that comes out of your mouth.

As I said earlier, everyone will be happier when these people go back to CoD ;)

Da Doc
05-23-2012, 12:41 AM
Yeah no kidding man. Everyone complaining about the game, if you don't like it, please, don't play it and stop complaining. Let me enjoy my GoTY so far.

hype
05-23-2012, 07:04 AM
seriously...? that's your complaint? the mechanic that has been in most 3rd person shooters since God knows when?

lmaoooo what a sissy.

judd90
05-23-2012, 08:29 AM
I don't find it a big problem, its good for close quarters because you can see over your shoulder.

Cooljoe
05-27-2012, 01:57 AM
I would just like to add that you can run n gun in this game like in cod and have sucesss... That is if you're good with just simply clicking a button lol on another note, I love the crouch and prone controls.

IC3 L3G3ND
05-27-2012, 02:11 AM
I wish they would slow some games down to this pace, cod is way too fast paced, i love cod/battlefield and ghost recon

Cod is too fast paced, BF is full of douchebags and i cant comment on this as its too soon.

Why play a game where it ends in 5 mins due to kill or capture limits and everyone runs around like a madman

WalterWhite
05-27-2012, 02:29 AM
I wish they would slow some games down to this pace, cod is way too fast paced, i love cod/battlefield and ghost recon

Cod is too fast paced, BF is full of douchebags and i cant comment on this as its too soon.

Why play a game where it ends in 5 mins due to kill or capture limits and everyone runs around like a madman

Absolutely agree. Call of Duty is a good game but it's like doing ten Jager Bombs in a row and jumping off of a balcony while blasting a mile of cocaine up your nose, which is fun once or twice a year but probably not so good every night. I actually found Battlefield to be relaxing, but gave up on the latest one because all of the douchbaggery and server nonsense, and for me it didn't capture the magic that BFBC2 & Vietnam did. Ghost Recon feels like 3rd person Battlefield to me, but smoother when it works. Time will tell what the community makes of it but I think it will get better. It's not built for run and gunners, atleast a dozen times so far I've been at the top of the scoreboard by a few thousand points without a single kill in the match with guys with 35-40 kills in third or fourth place.

Kunduz
05-27-2012, 03:33 AM
umh..ever played any other 3rd person recently? Since this feature been around for a long time....

Sarcasm
05-27-2012, 04:58 AM
I believe I read everything just fine, you're complaining about holding left trigger to aim then click right stick to go first person, you don't need to hold the left trigger...

Lol. I am not on the game at the moment, but I thought that you could go into 1st person by clicking :rs:.

Although, you are better off doing the :ltbut: -> :rs: as you will be fully zoomed into the exact spot you wanted to look at.

raptor_256
05-27-2012, 08:38 AM
control scheme made sense to me. aim movement is with the right stick so you press it for fine aim. simple.

considering this game is supposed to be stealth based, you have time to think and aim before taking shots - in singleplayer atleast.

if you dont like it, use LT and RB to target enemies and have your squad kill them :)

Divine Darkness
05-27-2012, 11:05 AM
It's not built for run and gunners, atleast a dozen times so far I've been at the top of the scoreboard by a few thousand points without a single kill in the match with guys with 35-40 kills in third or fourth place.

I agree with you on this. Was playing a game the other day and some CoD kid went 40-15. Got 6k xp while my friend who went 16-18 got around 10k. I play Engi and sometimes ill rush the objective since I use a field computer and can usually hack it before the other team gets there. Just rushing with no real purpose besides getting kills gets you know where real fast.

xTGMx INF3RNO
05-27-2012, 12:41 PM
Yesterday I played engineer I.got 12k xp with only 3kills. Uav n objectives

Blud
05-27-2012, 03:59 PM
I gotta hold the left trigger to aim then press down on the thumb stick to look through my red dot really!?!?

As has been said before...No.

All you have to do to scope is press down on the thumb stick.

Left trigger = shoulder aim.

Thumb stick = scope aim.