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xTGMx INF3RNO
04-21-2012, 10:00 PM
Im playing a level. Sewage plant or something where water squirts you up in the air. Im trying for gold but have noticed it luck based. The water squirts me in positions that are impossible for me to land. Anyone got any tips to try a do this other than luck!

madmankevin
04-21-2012, 10:04 PM
Are you using the Phoenix Evo? I was getting killed using that bike and switched to the Scorpion and it was a breeze.

If you're using the Scorpion, then I have this tip: do better!

xTGMx INF3RNO
04-21-2012, 10:06 PM
i tried them both the first 75% is easy the final bit where there are 4 in a row as i get there i always land in the gap i cant control it which is why im pissed its the water pushing me there!

EDIT: I dont even have a phoenix

ChickinOnaChain
04-21-2012, 10:07 PM
Im playing a level. Sewage plant or something where water squirts you up in the air. Im trying for gold but have noticed it luck based. The water squirts me in positions that are impossible for me to land. Anyone got any tips to try a do this other than luck!
Reading this makes me realize I shouldn't get this. I sucked with the demo.

The Eddmeister
04-21-2012, 10:08 PM
Reading this makes me realize I shouldn't get this. I sucked with the demo.

Haha I'm with you mate. I don't want to break anymore controllers :p

xTGMx INF3RNO
04-21-2012, 10:10 PM
Ive just given up lol. Managed silver and got super pissed! so calming down.

EDIT: These level are pretty shitty the environment makes it based on lucky sometimes. Regret my purchase.

CKK Salvation
04-21-2012, 10:35 PM
It's not luck. Watch the top guy's replay. He planned every bit of his run. There's an obvious skill difference between him and myself, but watching it made me to realize I just need to figure it out.

xTGMx INF3RNO
04-21-2012, 10:37 PM
I cant be arsed to practice lol. Medium levels can be pretty stupid and im not enjoying the game so ceebs to go hard and extreme.

Gageamatron
04-21-2012, 10:39 PM
It's not luck. Watch the top guy's replay. He planned every bit of his run. There's an obvious skill difference between him and myself, but watching it made me to realize I just need to figure it out.

Finally a sensible response.



THIS GAME IS NOT LUCK BASED.

Learn the tracks, learn the bikes and get better. I don't understand why most people are expecting to be trials Gods right off the bat.

xTGMx INF3RNO
04-21-2012, 10:47 PM
Seems it is a bit. There was a level where a platform fired me across and everytime it didnt fire me far enough the randomly after 15+ attempts it worked and i didnt do anything different.

IVIR BLOBBY
04-21-2012, 11:00 PM
Feel your pain, this level beat me earlier today, all gold in that part but that one. the water bits just mess me up they fling you in completely different ways every time, its rather hard to predict & so i just keep failing.

Bit annoying, shouldn't be so random

Benny34
04-21-2012, 11:26 PM
how can you watch replays?
lol other than that im stuck on this level but went off to play more, i dont regret my purchase im happy i bought this but i suck at this game tho.

acdougla17
04-21-2012, 11:37 PM
Seems it is a bit. There was a level where a platform fired me across and everytime it didnt fire me far enough the randomly after 15+ attempts it worked and i didnt do anything different.

You are probably talking about the track suspense, where the platform launches you across a big gap (you are up in the clouds). I guarantee you were rolling too far down the platform. You need to slow down so it launches at more of an upwards angle rather than horizontally.

I would say that Trials is 90% skill/practice/memorizing tracks and 10% luck. And by luck, I mean just making a quick reaction and managing to save a possible fault. And if you keep landing on those gaps in Sewage Plant, how about slowing down so you dont even launch over them and then just drive across them? Thats what I ended up doing in my platinum medal run.

HugTheBear
04-21-2012, 11:39 PM
how can you watch replays?
lol other than that im stuck on this level but went off to play more, i dont regret my purchase im happy i bought this but i suck at this game tho.

Not 100% sure, but I think you just go to the map leaderboards and you can watch the people's trial run.

acdougla17
04-21-2012, 11:40 PM
Not 100% sure, but I think you just go to the map leaderboards and you can watch the people's trial run.

View the leaderboards for a specific track, press "Y" on someone in the top 5000 and you can view their replay.

A ZombieTwinkie
04-21-2012, 11:50 PM
View the leaderboards for a specific track, press "Y" on someone in the top 5000 and you can view their replay.


I don't think it's just the Top 5000. I've got a run where I'm 5858 and I can watch the replay, and a friend who is at 8901 and I can watch it. Think it's 10,000 now; not like it would matter to watch 10,000 replays, haha.

Finally a sensible response.



THIS GAME IS NOT LUCK BASED.

Learn the tracks, learn the bikes and get better. I don't understand why most people are expecting to be trials Gods right off the bat.



I agree. Sure, it might seem like it, but it all comes down to knowing how fast to hit a jump, which jumps to avoid, and how to keep control of your bike. I'm no Trials Master, but I consider myself pretty good. I'm the top of the 20 or so of my friends I have who have the game.

adamrulz
04-22-2012, 12:04 AM
What direction the jets push you also depends on
How your rider is sitting. If you lean back, you flip back,
Try and hit it as level as possible and it is better.
Also for landing in the gap, you have to slow down a tad
to hot it right.

tunaleg
04-22-2012, 12:33 AM
I just got gold on this one. I had the most difficulty with the last water blast. I found you have go with a 360 flip but clearing it is pretty much luck. Keep at it, it's doable!

Benny34
04-22-2012, 01:52 AM
I just got gold on this one. I had the most difficulty with the last water blast. I found you have go with a 360 flip but clearing it is pretty much luck. Keep at it, it's doable!
how do you do a 360 flip , or do you meAan backflip lol?

xIAmAZombiex
04-22-2012, 04:26 AM
I'd say it's fair enough to say some levels are luck based. The two the OP mentioned sure took me a lot of tries to even be able to land. Take that sky catapult thing for example. I'd be in the exact same space and have the exact same positioning on my bike, but I'd only get over the jump about 25% of the time.

lord verh
04-22-2012, 09:08 AM
I'd say it's fair enough to say some levels are luck based. The two the OP mentioned sure took me a lot of tries to even be able to land. Take that sky catapult thing for example. I'd be in the exact same space and have the exact same positioning on my bike, but I'd only get over the jump about 25% of the time.


The rider has four stances but are you sure you had the same speed in both situations, if a game is not luck based but timing based it's Trials.

xTGMx INF3RNO
04-22-2012, 11:45 AM
I just spent hours getting unyielding! Was a pain!

WogDogg
04-22-2012, 08:00 PM
The first few times I played sewage plant I got annoyed for the same reasons as you, then I realised if you play the same way, the same things will happen.

It's not luck, it's just finding the right angle/speed/whatever. You need patience, not luck, it didn't even take me 5 minutes to figure out how the water jets worked and to work around them so I didn't go flying in random places.

IncensedCape
04-22-2012, 09:02 PM
I cant be arsed to practice.

Well, you're not going to get any better then are you?

CoregBlue1
04-22-2012, 09:14 PM
this game isnīt easy to complete.

its skill, not luck, based. not a bit.

tunaleg
05-05-2012, 07:27 PM
how do you do a 360 flip , or do you meAan backflip lol?

Back flip or front flip.. with whatever way the water pushes you
Did you not understand '360 flip' or are you just being an ass?

xCJW
05-05-2012, 10:46 PM
It took me ages to get gold on this one those water shoots kept messing me up it was luck based like fuck . :(

ll X ll
05-06-2012, 12:06 AM
I hate to see you play the flatline levels, though i will admit seeing a video to how the level is being done especially could really give an idea and makes it easier (for me, atleast since im used to the physics of the game alot now)

Frazerz1990
05-06-2012, 05:08 PM
I too had to practice this a couple of times before getting used to it, just slow down before the final 3 steam/water pumps and you'll be fine

ChickinOnaChain
05-06-2012, 05:41 PM
its skill, not luck, based. not a bit.
This is why I suck at it! ;)

Skilled
05-07-2012, 05:30 AM
I just failed a extreme track at the end - on the finish line >.>

498 faults I had but it crashed so annoyed right now.

Toams07
05-07-2012, 10:06 AM
I just failed a extreme track at the end - on the finish line >.>

498 faults I had but it crashed so annoyed right now.

That sucks .. bad ..

MarkoSkater
05-07-2012, 10:20 AM
for the level mentioned with the pipes just slam it in to a backflip
9/10 it works for me and i got gold ;)

Gold all the way up to death valley.

platinum can just kiss my grits tho :O

Ereaser NL
05-07-2012, 11:21 AM
The part where you come go down and then you get launched up and far and land on another pipe was the most annoying thing for me :/ Cuz I was still in the air while hitting the 2nd boost, so I flipped backwards >.<
About the 4 pipes: if you go fast enough you hit like 1 or 2.

JSunAlec
05-07-2012, 03:01 PM
You have to be EXTREMELY patient...

mr_FOS NL
05-11-2012, 08:34 AM
Some of the tracks just want you throw the controller in the TV, due to what seems to be uncontrolled mechanics/physics. But, as mentioned, it is (prob) not luck based.
Also, for whatever reason, some landings after a jump will result in a crash, allthough you land identical everytime.

FreeFool
05-11-2012, 11:27 AM
These are a mixture of skill and luck, but mostly skill, you do have to "land" on the water jets a particular way so that you are not totally out of control, having said that you can mess it up and still get a decent landing. So the luck can work both ways.

GR4V1G0R3
05-11-2012, 07:33 PM
there is an element of luck to the game i will admit that (like did you hit the stick at the exact nanosecond required, no, well you ain't making that ridiculous jump then, do the level like the noobs do....


and also occasionally when the bike just blows up on landing, but thats been there since HD, maybe before


but everything is based on rider position & speed, if they are not spot on, you've fucked the section up, start again, hence why i'm 12 seconds slower than #1 on a track that took me 38 seconds (truth is out there - flatliner)


the flow of the tracks is one thing you need to learn, but it sounds like you need to learn the majority of the game...i wasn't much different myself, like i didn't know how to do a moving bunny hop properly (required for the wreck) had to watch vids, now i can do them....but there is also the fact you can over jump, and lose all your momentum


as everyone has already said, this game is highly skill based, but mostly track knowledge 75% knowing the lines of the track, 25% skill to be able to do those lines

occasionally you will see a replay where they also had luck on their side (like the guys who ride on the rear mud guard somehow)


watch guys doing ninja runs on shit, you'll realise just how bad we normal players are (in comparison)



i think i know the exact jet that is fucking you up, i had a long time where i either landed in the 2nd pipe from the jump, or i made it past those 3, and the one that fires you up the ramp just flipped my upside down, constantly...unfortunately, i aint been on that track in ages so i cant' give any hints


it was mind bender that pissed me off, i hate changeable physics - by that i mean the direction of gravity, or whatever the fuck is constantly interfering with you on that track

Pinion13
05-12-2012, 03:51 PM
My favorite moments in this game so far are when you finally make it through the touchy ass course without crashing and you missed a gold by a second or two. FU trials. FU.

DFizzle720
05-13-2012, 03:52 AM
The sewage plant level is definitely one of the more frustrating in the game. My friends and I have been going back and forth on times for a week now. None of us WANT to play it anymore but someone keeps setting a new best time and the others can't help but torture ourselves by trying to beat it. I managed to platinum it a couple of days ago so hopefully that will stand for a while.

So far, for me, the most frustrating moment of this game has been finishing Gigatrack with only 2 faults in 7:55.192. Gold on that one is less than 6 faults in 7:55. That run was definitely followed by a rage quit. I ended up getting it a couple of days later but platinum on that one seems out of reach.

ElektroDragon
05-15-2012, 05:51 AM
You know what's total bullshit? That Gigatrack. I timed out at 30 minutes with 121 retries. Waste of 30 minutes of life. Red Lynx can burn in hell. I smashed a controller and two remotes into the ground.

DecadentBeaver
05-16-2012, 10:21 PM
I'm doing pretty bad at it myself, but enjoy the game. All my friends who have played it are posting way better times than me as well. Also, I have hardly any gold medals on the easy tracks. I really suck at this game, but I still love it.

Nevander
07-04-2012, 07:21 AM
This track is total bullshit.

When you hit the pipe after two you go over, the water always makes you flip, which usually leads to a fault. Then if you manage not to fault there, then the water at the end of the track makes you flip and fault right in front of the finish line.

What makes you not flip? Wtf??!

tugboatman
07-11-2012, 08:41 AM
i tried them both the first 75% is easy the final bit where there are 4 in a row as i get there i always land in the gap i cant control it which is why im pissed its the water pushing me there!

EDIT: I dont even have a phoenix

My tip for this bit would be, After you are forced to flip just before the bit with four water shoots in a row SLOW DOWN on the platform before and then as you get close to the 2 water jets that fire you up to the 4 in a row GUN IT I do this and clear the 4 of them almost every time.......

As people have said this game isn't luck based it just needs practice I hated this track but after a while I found a good flow and hey presto I got a run of 31.??? seconds (inside the top 1000 anyway)

Just keep practicing

Frozenghost001
07-19-2012, 02:49 AM
just keep trying. it only took me 3 hours, 3 minutes and 14 seconds to get gold (cause i timed it after like 10 minutes in.) and i regret every second doing it cause i swore there was an achievement for all gold which is the only reason why i did that...

Nevander
07-19-2012, 04:05 AM
I managed to get gold on it finally. I now have golds on ALL tracks except for some skill games and the tournaments. All gold in Extreme!

Platinum... yea about that. I'm not a trials god. :(

Skilled
07-22-2012, 11:35 AM
Yeah, I had plenty of trouble with this level. Kept at it till I had no faults and have a really good time. :p