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DMANTHESLAYR959
06-10-2012, 10:51 PM
Who else on here hates how the multiplayer is turning out? It is only like HALO in the yay it looks, what have you done 343 you making haters even though the game isn't out yet! Get rid of all the call of duty and gears of war features! They are all of something and not HALO! HALO has fans and doesn't need any other game linking into it, it is what it is and that is why we all love it so much! You better not screw it up to much because the fun is being taken away and competitive is coming into it, HALO was never a competition it has always been to make people happy and have fun while gaming! The campaign may look pretty damn awesome but the multiplayer is a huge let down! :(

DarkReign2021
06-10-2012, 11:06 PM
Really? It looks like Halo to me. The only thing that's different is the stupid camo designs that go on the weapon and armor. Otherwise it looks like the same old Halo game it's always been. I'm personally more disappointed that there's even going to be multiplayer in Halo 4. I think they should've just gone with an enormous campaign and called it a day.

Ty-Rex
06-11-2012, 12:29 AM
The only thing that's different is the stupid camo designs that go on the weapon and armor.
Dudebro, you gotta get over your camo issues. lol

But yeah, game still looks like Halo, I don't get a CoD or Gears vibe from it at all anymore. I'd say just wait until the game comes out before you write it off completely, though you strike me as the kinda cool dude who will say it's bad no matter what.

Also, you totally don't need to capitalize all the letters in "Halo".

LickableLemons7
06-11-2012, 12:44 AM
Dudebro, you gotta get over your camo issues. lol

But yeah, game still looks like Halo, I don't get a CoD or Gears vibe from it at all anymore. I'd say just wait until the game comes out before you write it off completely, though you strike me as the kinda cool dude who will say it's bad no matter what.

Also, you totally don't need to capitalize all the letters in "Halo".

Ladies and germs, we have a winner.

DMAN, I don't see how there's a Gears of War vibe that's been spewed into Halo 4. Unless you're referring to all the fancy little armor and weapon skins.
Were you at one of the Halo 4 multiplayer booths in E3, actually playing the game with your own hands? If not, don't judge if you haven't played. It's a pretty bad habit to get sucked into.
And personally, I think a dash of Call of Duty's fast paced firefights, as well as elements from other games will give Halo 4 the edge in terms of diversability. Games need to conform and change to adapt to the consumers who constantly grow and cry out for new things. If Halo had never changed its multiplayer functions since Halo 2, I'm positive that many would groan and complaing with Reach's gameplay(probably more people than there are now).

IntersecTT
06-11-2012, 12:45 AM
game looks sick to me. reach was a let down but this game will get me back to playing my favorite online series.

Dz06lt
06-11-2012, 01:30 AM
Halo will always be halo, just like CoD will always be CoD nothing to get pissed over. Besides multiplayer is multiplayer nothing more can be done to change or improve it, fundamentally its always the same no matter what title is on the cover.

kyboy
06-11-2012, 02:48 AM
i dont understand why all the hate for the camo skins? its not like its gona mess up your gameplay lol... any way, i think the multiplayer looks awesome

DarkReign2021
06-11-2012, 04:38 AM
Dudebro, you gotta get over your camo issues. lol

Never! I will take my disliking of Camo skins to the grave! Mwuhahaha!

I actually wasn't complaining about them this time. Just pointing out they the stupid skins is the only thing about H4 that gives it a GoW or CoD vibe. I'll hate on the skins sometime tomorrow when I give a damn. Too late for me to complain right now.

ZingZitang
06-11-2012, 05:24 PM
Really? It looks like Halo to me. The only thing that's different is the stupid camo designs that go on the weapon and armor. Otherwise it looks like the same old Halo game it's always been. I'm personally more disappointed that there's even going to be multiplayer in Halo 4. I think they should've just gone with an enormous campaign and called it a day.

This.

While I can understand the OP's Perspective(to an extent), I'd prefer more change then none at all.

If you want to play Halo Reach or Halo 3 then go play them. The Servers for both games are still very much Alive.

DMANTHESLAYR959
06-11-2012, 06:49 PM
You all obviously haven't seen the mlg gameplay that shows the ordanance drops when you get killing spree's and all that. That shouts out call of duty. The skins aren't so much a problem because they are made to look like HALO (yes all capitals look at your game cases)

Kaiyo
06-11-2012, 06:59 PM
The camos can be customized woth different colors like you would in any other Halo games in the exception of team modes where the game forces you in any of the 2 set color teams.

mrcrash01
06-11-2012, 07:01 PM
survival games LAYR959;5117563]You all obviously haven't seen the mlg gameplay that shows the ordanance drops when you get killing spree's and all that. That shouts out call of duty. The skins aren't so much a problem because they are made to look like HALO (yes all capitals look at your game cases)[/QUOTE]

Actually, you dont get the drops from killing sprees, they carry over from death. And they are also just weapons or speedboost ;-)
Edit: sorry for bad quote. Sucks to write on a phone...

Ty-Rex
06-11-2012, 11:32 PM
You all obviously haven't seen the mlg gameplay that shows the ordanance drops when you get killing spree's and all that. That shouts out call of duty.
What?! Something in a game looks like something from another game?! Call the editor, we've got a new frontpage headline!

HALO (yes all capitals look at your game cases)
Right, they definitely put it in all caps because that's the intended spelling. It has nothing to do with it being more eye-catching or anything. I'm guessing it's an acronym, but if that were the case, it would likely be for High Altitude, Low Opening, a type of jump first used by Naked Snake in Metal Gear Solid 3. MGS 3 was a really great game. Did you play MGS 3? Eating a snake seems really gross. I would not eat a snake, at least not a raw snake. That weird snake scar on Boss' chest was really weird too...

Anyway, it's not all caps you moron.

Vectorman953
06-12-2012, 05:05 AM
Going to have to be another one of "those guys" who says: "how about you reserve bashing the game until you play it for yourself?"
I for one hated the 'killstreaks,' but after seeing that they're merely -very- small bonuses for kills, that carry over even if you die, I changed my opinion.

Skins are cosmetic, so any complaint about them is moot. They're ugly - who cares. They won't force you to buy them, and if you feel that strongly against them A) Don't give them your money B) Headshot every dude who has got one.

Darkforce412
06-15-2012, 04:05 PM
it seems like halo to me i think it will be awesome i bet if u try it you will say dam never mind this game is great so wait till it comes out before u go all hate crazy:uzi:

KiraIchigo
06-16-2012, 07:46 PM
Idk guys, if you read about the multiplayer, it seems to have a CoD class layout :/ Not very original. Im excited for Halo 4 but Im really hoping that they don't mess up the multiplayer.

CMCX360
06-16-2012, 08:21 PM
Really? I saw the MLG multiplayer video and instantly wanted to drive over to Kirkland and offer them all my money now for the game.

PLaSmA T4rt
06-21-2012, 04:11 AM
Did u even play it? and don't judge so quickly. This is a mix of the new and the old. Just play a demo or something and if u don't like it just play CoD or something if u gonna hate

kyboy
06-25-2012, 02:46 AM
Idk guys, if you read about the multiplayer, it seems to have a CoD class layout :/ Not very original. Im excited for Halo 4 but Im really hoping that they don't mess up the multiplayer.

thats good that you can customize your loadout. they should have done that a long time ago.. im so stoked for this game!! it cant come fast enough..

gig
06-27-2012, 06:23 PM
Im excited about the campaign, the multiplayer is different looking from past halo games but not like Im not gonna buy it I still want to atleast try it before I say anything

SiLeNt Sc0pE 16
07-02-2012, 04:40 AM
I think it looks incredible. It has that Halo 3 feel to it which is great because H3 had the best multiplayer. I'm glad they brought back the BR also. The new armor abilities are not too much either like Reach. This game has serious potential to be the greatest.

kyboy
07-03-2012, 12:41 PM
im glad they made sprint standard, and still able to pick an armor ability, chose your loadout.
cant really comment on how if it looks like halo 3 gameplay, bc ive only played Reach.. maybe ill go pick it up today, after all, its only 10 bucks at gamestop. i keep hearing from every one that i need to play H3, and that halo reach was a let down.

Diamondxinferno1116
07-05-2012, 06:37 PM
I agree 100% it sucks to see creativity die! Halo is the one series that doesnt need to use ideas from another game. They tried something new with reach and it was terrible compared to the other ones. I think the last hope for the series is a remake of halo 2!!

Ty-Rex
07-06-2012, 12:31 AM
I agree 100% it sucks to see creativity die! Halo is the one series that doesnt need to use ideas from another game. They tried something new with reach and it was terrible compared to the other ones. I think the last hope for the series is a remake of halo 2!!
I can only hope you see the irony in this.

Frozenghost001
07-10-2012, 04:03 PM
You all obviously haven't seen the mlg gameplay that shows the ordanance drops when you get killing spree's and all that. That shouts out call of duty. The skins aren't so much a problem because they are made to look like HALO (yes all capitals look at your game cases)
thats only in one gametype - infinity slayer. the same old Halo gameplay with weapon spawns in fixed locations and everyone spawns with the same weapon is still present in all the other gametypes (i believe; i know regular slayer is like that).

to be honest the same, core gameplay that we all love from previous Halo games is still present but now there's more options to choose from.



and ahhh 1,000th post! haha

niko da bos
07-25-2012, 08:35 PM
to be honest the same, core gameplay that we all love from previous Halo games is still present but now there's more options to choose from.


heres what i saw in the 4-5 gameplays i watched on Halo4


teams score based on points, no longer by kills.
grenade indicators for enemy thrown grenades, friendly grenades did not appear to have an indicator. no more friendly nade spam?
ordinance drops that randomly give weapons to specific map points.
in-game rewards for getting kills such as weapons or powerups.
new skin for all the medals..
option to skip death cam and spawn right away?
x ray vision :confused:
flag carrier can now shoot while moving with the flag.
honestly... i might be one of the old timers when it comes to halo, but i dont expect them to keep making the same game each installment. i understand times change and the game evolves, but holy shit its like they kept on adding in new things until it hardly even resembled halo anymore.

and i dont need to "play the game" to see that they changed all that, its apparently obvious if you pay attention to the HUD and whats going on. thats more changes than i think anybody anticipated, i know for me it was kind of shocking.

PyreBall
08-02-2012, 04:24 AM
Who else on here hates how the multiplayer is turning out? It is only like HALO in the yay it looks, what have you done 343 you making haters even though the game isn't out yet! Get rid of all the call of duty and gears of war features! They are all of something and not HALO! HALO has fans and doesn't need any other game linking into it, it is what it is and that is why we all love it so much! You better not screw it up to much because the fun is being taken away and competitive is coming into it, HALO was never a competition it has always been to make people happy and have fun while gaming! The campaign may look pretty damn awesome but the multiplayer is a huge let down! :(
Are you fucking joking? Have you somehow been lucky enough to not meet an MLG asshat during your time on the Halo games? Because with the sizable chunk of time I've logged in these games I've met many, and Halo is life or death for them. Yes, it's a game and it's for fun, but it's also a staple at MLG meets along side of some of the shooters you've mentioned. Halo has always been as much about competition as it has fun, man.

Razor Buddha
08-02-2012, 05:44 AM
Custom classes, join games in progress, progression based ranking, weapon unlocks, weapon camos, perk system, prestige mode, spec ops, killstreaks, the list goes on.

It's painfully obvious they are trying to pull in the Call of Duty crowd. If you do not see that you are blind. If you don't comprehend that you are an idiot. I can relate to the idea that Halo cannot be the same exact game over and over I do however find it insane that they are copying a franchise that literally puts the same game out every year. People complain that CoD doesn't change at all, but nobody bitched that Halo needed drastic changes like this. From what I understood we all wanted a return to form, we wanted it to go back to what it used to be before Reach.

The sad part about all this is that Black Ops II is going to sell more copies than Halo 4 not because it has Call of Duty in the title, but because I bet money that Treyarch will drastically change the multiplayer formula in ways that either haven't been done yet or haven't been done on a grand scale and the masses will receive it well while Halo 4 looks more and more like Infinity Ward's Space Warfare.

I don't really care anymore, Reach turned me into a Call of Duty fan and 343 industries abused the little trust I gave them when they announced the game in June 2011. I don't give a shit about Halo anymore really. I'll still buy the game but they killed my hype factor for it severely. What kills me is that I'm going to play through the campaign in it's entirety before I even touch multiplayer and I know that when I finally go to Team Slayer there will be people at higher ranks than me with better weapons and equipment unlocked than I have... just like Call of Duty. It's a shame.

ronnie42
08-02-2012, 05:05 PM
Dudebro, you gotta get over your camo issues. lol

But yeah, game still looks like Halo, I don't get a CoD or Gears vibe from it at all anymore. I'd say just wait until the game comes out before you write it off completely, though you strike me as the kinda cool dude who will say it's bad no matter what.

Also, you totally don't need to capitalize all the letters in "Halo".

Nobody needs to get over the camo thing. I'm getting the limited edition for all the map packs, think the cameo's look stupid. As long as I can get all the chief armor from all previous games I'll be fine. :drunk

niko da bos
08-02-2012, 08:55 PM
What kills me is that I'm going to play through the campaign in it's entirety before I even touch multiplayer and I know that when I finally go to Team Slayer there will be people at higher ranks than me with better weapons and equipment unlocked than I have... just like Call of Duty. It's a shame.

you know what im the same exact way, every halo that has ever came out, i always play the campaign first. infact, i beat the entire thing on legendary before touching the multiplayer. this will be the first game where i will actually be at a significant disadvantage, other than not knowing the maps of course. halo has always been like that, where everybody starts the same and you WORK for better weapons. not even going to get into the new power weapon system, and how they randomly spawn making map control irrelevant..

im wondering how it will turn out, like will i need to run around with an AR default sprint class and scavenge for a BR? either way atleast i will have custom games, we have had some of the same ones since halo2 and those are still fun:)

DEG23
08-02-2012, 11:34 PM
you know what im the same exact way, every halo that has ever came out, i always play the campaign first. infact, i beat the entire thing on legendary before touching the multiplayer. this will be the first game where i will actually be at a significant disadvantage

I think i missed something but how will playing the SP first put you at a disadvantage?

OT: I find it funny that gamers always complain that games who use the same MP each year are crap but as soon as they include new features, suddenly it's not the game it should be:p

I don't give a damn, i'll play Halo 4 MP no matter if it has weapons skins or care packages, but then again i game for fun;)

Razor Buddha
08-03-2012, 02:54 AM
I think i missed something but how will playing the SP first put you at a disadvantage?

Let's say it takes you 2 days to beat campaign without touching multiplayer. That's a 2 day head start that the other part of the community (the part that doesn't care about SP) has on you. I bet money that I will be starting with an AR going against people with BRs and DMRs or even better the first day I play multiplayer. They'll have better guns, perks, amor abilities, and grenades than I will have.

The point is no one is equal anymore, guns barely spawn on the map and not even at set places. Halo was an arena shooter, now it's the same as every other tactical shooter on the market. These things take away from the game, they don't add to it.

niko da bos
08-03-2012, 05:10 PM
I think i missed something but how will playing the SP first put you at a disadvantage?

OT: I find it funny that gamers always complain that games who use the same MP each year are crap but as soon as they include new features, suddenly it's not the game it should be:p


because of the custom loadouts and such, you will unlock different abilities and weapons to put in your setup (simular to COD). they are unlocks, hence why starting late would mean most other players would already have them. also like i mentioned, the obvious would be getting used to the maps. most players just hop on MP once they get the game, i would say very few people actually beat the campaign on legendary before touching the multiplayer like i do.

changes are good, dont get me wrong. for example, most hardcore H2 fans bash halo3 for the BR spread and different things they think "made the game bad." i felt they improved everything and the game was even more enjoyable than my awesome halo2 experience. however, something like halo reach was just too much change for me. my thing is i cannot stand when games make the MP more scrub friendly, BKs should die - not get crutches.

joelrea13
08-03-2012, 05:18 PM
game looks sick to me. reach was a let down but this game will get me back to playing my favorite online series.
ODST was the real let down though wasn't it. Reach was far superior to that...at least as far as the campaign goes.

Ty-Rex
08-03-2012, 09:13 PM
my thing is i cannot stand when games make the MP more scrub friendly, BKs should die - not get crutches.
Lol, this is hilariously MLG/tryhard bad. Is someone else posting on your account?
ODST was the real let down though wasn't it. Reach was far superior to that...at least as far as the campaign goes.
I feel that way, but, man, be prepared, people really love ODST's campaign and defend it pretty vehemently. ODST's Firefight was far superior to Reach's version, though.

And yeah, I still use words I learned in 8th grade grammar. Wanna fight about it?

Joker0fLife
08-03-2012, 10:46 PM
All of the "I'm not going to play multiplayer first, so I'm going to suck" talk is pointless...NONE of that matters when you're getting put against 20,000+ other people who are doing the EXACT same thing you're doing.

And to nail the point home a little harder, you're only going to be at a disadvantage IF the packages/armor abilities aren't balanced properly. There's also the fact if you love and play Halo enough, you can be good without the higher upgrades.

I'm going to play through maybe 2 levels of the campaign on Normal with friends before I hop onto the Multiplayer. And you know what? I'm going to fucking crush everyone I see because no one is going to stop me from kicking ass on one of my favorite series of all time, even with all the new changes.

Imagine, if you will, the .gif in my sig, but with Halo. That's how it's going to be on November 6th.


And yeah, I still use words I learned in 8th grade grammar. Wanna fight about it?

How boisterous of you ;)

Razor Buddha
08-04-2012, 12:24 AM
All of the "I'm not going to play multiplayer first, so I'm going to suck" talk is pointless...NONE of that matters when you're getting put against 20,000+ other people who are doing the EXACT same thing you're doing.

And to nail the point home a little harder, you're only going to be at a disadvantage IF the packages/armor abilities aren't balanced properly. There's also the fact if you love and play Halo enough, you can be good without the higher upgrades.

I'm going to play through maybe 2 levels of the campaign on Normal with friends before I hop onto the Multiplayer. And you know what? I'm going to fucking crush everyone I see because no one is going to stop me from kicking ass on one of my favorite series of all time, even with all the new changes.

Imagine, if you will, the .gif in my sig, but with Halo. That's how it's going to be on November 6th.

Fair enough, I hadn't thought of it that way. But it still is lame that we all don't spawn with the same stuff making it truly an equal playing field. That was a core element of Halo.

DEG23
08-04-2012, 12:50 AM
Let's say it takes you 2 days to beat campaign without touching multiplayer. That's a 2 day head start that the other part of the community (the part that doesn't care about SP) has on you.

because of the custom loadouts and such, you will unlock different abilities and weapons to put in your setup (simular to COD). they are unlocks, hence why starting late would mean most other players would already have them.

I know JokerofLife already answered this but i have never played a game that had an unlock system, like COD, where i felt i was at a disadvantage. No game (that i can think of) gives 'better or more powerful' weapons as you level up.

I remember playing BF3 against people who were on a rank in the 40's and (without making sound like i am one epic gamer) i felt evenly matched and sometimes outscored them.

I can kind of understand where you are concerned though and i guess it doesn't bother me as much because i've always played MP for fun, win or lose.

Ty-Rex
08-04-2012, 05:28 AM
I'm going to fucking crush everyone I see because no one is going to stop me from kicking ass on one of my favorite series of all time, even with all the new changes.
This.

This is the best sentence posted on the Halo 4 forums on this site. On any site.

It should be the slogan of the new Mountain Dew Gamer Fuel For Halo.

Also, the rest of that post was pretty spot on so I have nothing else to say except that this post links to an image of my dog with Santa Claus. (http://i.imgur.com/9o35U.jpg)

Joker0fLife
08-04-2012, 06:44 AM
But it still is lame that we all don't spawn with the same stuff making it truly an equal playing field. That was a core element of Halo.

Truth, but all the primary starting weapons are for the most part equal (Dunno if the AR is still a starting weapon). 5 shots to the head with the DMR equates to the same amount of time it takes to get 4 bursts with the BR, which also equates to 8(?) shots with the Carbine. If you're going to be using a Carbine on a big map, it's your fault if you get worked by someone with a DMR. Granted that will only happen the first couple of matches, but that's how it is in every Halo.

The same thing applies in Reach as well. If a entire team was using Jet-Packs and you're getting worked, it's your fault that you're not switching to Jet-Packs immediately to get back at them. It's not the game's fault you're bad at strategy :p


Mountain Dew Gamer Fuel For Halo.
(http://i.imgur.com/9o35U.jpg)

That Gamer Fuel is like drinking battery acid, but dammit if it isn't the best tasting acid ever sold in a can.

Darkwormer
08-15-2012, 08:10 PM
The sad part about all this is that Black Ops II is going to sell more copies than Halo 4 not because it has Call of Duty in the title, but because I bet money that Treyarch will drastically change the multiplayer formula in ways that either haven't been done yet or haven't been done on a grand scale and the masses will receive it well while Halo 4 looks more and more like Infinity Ward's Space Warfare.


I would expect Black Ops II to sell more copies. Unlike Halo 4, it is going to be sold on MORE then one console. Since there are still people that do not have both an Xbox and PS3, there are more potential customers for Black Ops than for Halo. IF Halo sells more copies, that would be HUGE.

niko da bos
08-15-2012, 09:12 PM
Truth, but all the primary starting weapons are for the most part equal (Dunno if the AR is still a starting weapon). 5 shots to the head with the DMR equates to the same amount of time it takes to get 4 bursts with the BR, which also equates to 8(?) shots with the Carbine. If you're going to be using a Carbine on a big map, it's your fault if you get worked by someone with a DMR. Granted that will only happen the first couple of matches, but that's how it is in every Halo.
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a big part of halo was always the map control / weapon spawns, i just felt the idea of randomly dropping rockets / sniper / shotty to people is silly. halo matches always started everybody on par, then you work for better weapons. im sure the idea could work just fine, in general i've reserved my judgement on the multiplayer until i play it first hand.

Lol, this is hilariously MLG/tryhard bad. Is someone else posting on your account?


;)lol mlg tryhard would not be me. what i said holds truth though, its just my opinion but i dont like the general direction multiplayer is heading. almost every game adds in all these stealthy nub friendly features that helps bad players from getting their ass kicked. ive been back on H3 for the past month or so, and its amazing the difference. again these are just my opinions, take them how you will. but i know im not the only person who feels that way, the community from H3 -> Reach went down like over 50%.

i wont even get into the ranked situation, they totally goofed halo. rank is no longer depending on true skill or matches won, but how much time you've spent..

Joker0fLife
08-17-2012, 11:00 PM
a big part of halo was always the map control / weapon spawns, i just felt the idea of randomly dropping rockets / sniper / shotty to people is silly. halo matches always started everybody on par, then you work for better weapons. im sure the idea could work just fine, in general i've reserved my judgement on the multiplayer until i play it first hand.


i wont even get into the ranked situation, they totally goofed halo. rank is no longer depending on true skill or matches won, but how much time you've spent..

Well from what I understand, it rotates the weapons. It can still be predicted, it'll just be hard as fuck. Also, it's only in certain playlists, one that we all know is Affinity Slayer. While the weapons DO rotate, there's indicators that show the spawn of the weapons, so it's not like you don't know what's coming. If you see rockets have dropped and you don't run to pick them up, that's all on you.

From reading the Specializations information, there's going to be Ranks and Levels in Halo 4. Don't quote me though, I could be reading it wrong :p

JimCant
08-20-2012, 02:20 PM
I'm personally more disappointed that there's even going to be multiplayer in Halo 4. I think they should've just gone with an enormous campaign and called it a day.

Yea that would be the best thing ever! Except it wouldnt happen in this day an age. Too much money is involved with making a successful multiplayer game and it seems that me and you are the rare gamers who prefer campaign to multiplayers.

Now what they could have done was make an enormous campaign that was geared towards Co-Op.

You know everyone seems to buy the COD games because of the multiplayer content. I love getting them a year after (once the price drops) and playing the campaign. Great stories that are highly underrated.

niko da bos
08-20-2012, 04:00 PM
From reading the Specializations information, there's going to be Ranks and Levels in Halo 4. Don't quote me though, I could be reading it wrong :p

i saw the specializations and some of them actually look pretty awesome, not gonna lie some of the features im seeing are looking nice.

please 1-50 ranks :)

i fist brown i
08-20-2012, 07:42 PM
Who else on here hates how the multiplayer is turning out? It is only like HALO in the yay it looks, what have you done 343 you making haters even though the game isn't out yet! Get rid of all the call of duty and gears of war features! They are all of something and not HALO! HALO has fans and doesn't need any other game linking into it, it is what it is and that is why we all love it so much! You better not screw it up to much because the fun is being taken away and competitive is coming into it, HALO was never a competition it has always been to make people happy and have fun while gaming! The campaign may look pretty damn awesome but the multiplayer is a huge let down! :(

halo was never a competition??? im pretty sure it has been at almost every MLG tournament until recently...

in fact... halo is like the ONLY super competitive game...

ModernSith2010
08-20-2012, 07:53 PM
Well if what your saying is true then I'm completely screwed as 1 I'm not very good a any MP, especially halo and secondly I'm not getting the game till Christmas as I choose to buy AC3 for myself as it was out first and I thought then it would only be around a month from halo 4's release until Christmas. Too be honest with you the only reason I really play any MP is to mop up for achievements and when I'm board as I can't think of anything SP to play, Halo 4 for me is mainly for th SP and the spec ops type thing.

Robobeast76
08-24-2012, 01:57 AM
They have to do something new - if they don't people will just complain that it is Halo 2 or 3 or Reach. Then people will complain that it's too different and why can't it be like it is 2, 3 or Reach. It's the internet - no-one will be happy

Ty-Rex
08-24-2012, 04:50 AM
It's the internet - no-one will be happy
Trying to make the internet happy is the worst thing any game developer can do. Reach is a product of Bungie trying to please everyone at once which then ended up pleasing almost no one and alienated a good 50% of their playerbase within a few months of release.

The only time any developer should listen to the internet is when they do a beta. Even then, they should only take the most complained about things, and then the developer should decide how to handle the situation.

ajennice
08-24-2012, 04:58 AM
I'll be in it for 85% campaign / 15% MP. Multiplayer is only as good as your team and the opponents make it. IF both teams are on a level field, you should enjoy it no matter what. If your mates are jack offs, it doesn't matter what MP game it is, you'll lose a bit of liking on it and it will carry over.

Elit3 m0nkey
08-29-2012, 04:01 AM
Having played 3 matches of Halo 4 (it was playable at Fan Expo Canada), I definitely say that it still looks, feels, and for the most part, play like Halo. The question is whether or not you like the additions/changes they have done. I will post my opinions on some of the things I noticed while playing.

Controls: The controls for the most part remain similar to Reach with a few changes; first since sprinting is no longer an armour ability, the Left Stick is now how you sprint. Crouching has been moved to the B button and Melee is the Right Bumper. I did not find out how you switch grenades, but it is more than likely that it is one of the D-Pad buttons, since none of the other actions had their buttons changed. If you do not like this setup, than you more than likely will be able to change it to another pre-set layout as you have been able to do in past Halo games.

Armour Abilities: So the two armour abilities I tested out were the X-Ray vision thing (no idea what it is called), and the shield thing (again, no idea what it is called, but it's essentially a stripped down version of Amour Lock). And I found both to be pretty useless, the x-ray vision is rendered null thanks to the Motion Tracker, which tells you where people are when they are moving (and you almost always are in a Halo game). The shield (or Armour Lock), has significantly changed, it no longer protects you from all angles, it only works in the front; you can still be hit from the sides or back. These were the only two I managed to test, and rarely used them, though that might be because we were playing in small maps.

Weapons: So there is no need to worry about the weapons (for the most part, I'll get to that later). They all seem to balanced for the most part, and the classic Halo weapons have mostly remained unchanged. The Battle Rifle plays the same as it always has, the Assault Rifle has pretty much not changed at all and the DMR is the same as it was in Reach. Now some weapons have been tweaked a little. Once again both the Pistol and Needler have been tweaked, with the Pistol being slightly more powerful than in Reach but still not Halo CE powerful. The Needler has gone it's usual tweaks with the the needles moving slower but having around the same homing range as in Reach. The Scatter Shot seems to be a cool weapons that seems to be meant for bounce shots, other wise you can only use it in close range if you are head to head. The one thing that will take some getting used to (or changed) is how far you can throw a grenade, it has been drastically reduced, as it seems to be far more realistic than previous games. I hope this changes, because you could always get some amazing (and funny) kills this way.

Other Thoughts: One of the new additions I have noticed is that there are now damage indicators, similar (ok the exact same) as we see in Battlefield/Call of Duty. Personally I find these useless, because we could always tell if we hit someone because their shield would glow, now these just seem to be either distracting or a waste.

The Ordnance Drops seems to be quite hard to get to, as in a 60 kill Infinity Slayer, I only got them once and it didn't really matter. In longer games (such as CTF), you might get them more often, but in regular Slayer, you likely never get them more than once per game.

I still don't like the idea of loadouts, just gonna add this as I really didn't get a chance to play with them all that much.

Overall it seems that the spirit of Halo is still there, but I am not a fan of most of the additions simply because there is nothing special about them, most shooters out there do the same, and Halo is just more or less following the crowd. The exception (I think) is the Ordinance Drop, where you get to choose a new weapon, power-up and third thing that I don't remember what it is. This is much different than the killstreaks you get in, say, Call of Duty. I'll more than likely play Halo 4 a lot, but I just might not be as fond of it as Halo 3 (my favourite one to date).

xxJUSTINxx
08-29-2012, 06:46 AM
Really? It looks like Halo to me. The only thing that's different is the stupid camo designs that go on the weapon and armor. Otherwise it looks like the same old Halo game it's always been. I'm personally more disappointed that there's even going to be multiplayer in Halo 4. I think they should've just gone with an enormous campaign and called it a day.
I would actually love just singplayer. A good and very long story.

ZingZitang
08-29-2012, 06:46 PM
Controls: The controls for the most part remain similar to Reach with a few changes; first since sprinting is no longer an armour ability, the Left Stick is now how you sprint. Crouching has been moved to the B button and Melee is the Right Bumper. I did not find out how you switch grenades, but it is more than likely that it is one of the D-Pad buttons, since none of the other actions had their buttons changed. If you do not like this setup, than you more than likely will be able to change it to another pre-set layout as you have been able to do in past Halo games.
I sure hope you'll be able to Switch control schemes. Now, taking little pieces of gameplay from Other Shooters(Call of Duty) doesn't bother me, but when they go so far as to change the Default Control Scheme to also Mirror Call of Duty? Really? Seriously? Thats absolutely ridiculous.

The one thing that will take some getting used to (or changed) is how far you can throw a grenade, it has been drastically reduced, as it seems to be far more realistic than previous games. I hope this changes, because you could always get some amazing (and funny) kills this way.

This Honestly makes me very very sad. A genetically Augmented Spartan in Super Powerful Power Armor, can't throw a grenade further than a Regular Guy? That's just stupid. I don't know what it is about throwing grenades that bugs me. I know that in game you dont utilize any Aspect of your Super Soldier Abilities(Sprinting 40km/hour, lifting thousands of pounds, etc, etc. . . ) simply for Balance Reasons. But throwing a grenade like a little girl really bugs me out of all this.

niko da bos
08-29-2012, 09:51 PM
Trying to make the internet happy is the worst thing any game developer can do. Reach is a product of Bungie trying to please everyone at once which then ended up pleasing almost no one and alienated a good 50% of their playerbase within a few months of release.

The only time any developer should listen to the internet is when they do a beta. Even then, they should only take the most complained about things, and then the developer should decide how to handle the situation.

couldnt agree more


I sure hope you'll be able to Switch control schemes. Now, taking little pieces of gameplay from Other Shooters(Call of Duty) doesn't bother me, but when they go so far as to change the Default Control Scheme to also Mirror Call of Duty? Really? Seriously? Thats absolutely ridiculous.


This Honestly makes me very very sad. A genetically Augmented Spartan in Super Powerful Power Armor, can't throw a grenade further than a Regular Guy? That's just stupid. I don't know what it is about throwing grenades that bugs me. I know that in game you dont utilize any Aspect of your Super Soldier Abilities(Sprinting 40km/hour, lifting thousands of pounds, etc, etc. . . ) simply for Balance Reasons. But throwing a grenade like a little girl really bugs me out of all this.

that bit scared me as well when i read m0nkeys post, with that control scheme it almost directly mirrors call of duty and such. but we have always had a variety of configs to choose from, so i wouldnt worry too much. i remember on reach i was mad that i had to switch to "recon" and even then my nade switch changed to X.

didnt hear anything about this before, or even notice it on the gameplay i saw for that matter. i really hope its temporary and goes back to the original grenade 'arc' or wtv you would call that.

Joker0fLife
08-29-2012, 11:04 PM
and the shield thing (again, no idea what it is called, but it's essentially a stripped down version of Amour Lock). The shield has significantly changed, it no longer protects you from all angles, it only works in the front; you can still be hit from the sides or back. These were the only two I managed to test, and rarely used them, though that might be because we were playing in small maps.

I know you said you played on small maps, but did you play on Longbow or see any gameplay on Longbow? I ask because I have a question about the Light Shield, which is, when you get rammed from a vehicle while using it, do you:



Slide across the ground and take no damage?
Slide across the ground and take some damage/it breaks?
Hold your ground and take no damage, causing the vehicle to blow?
Hold your ground and it breaks?
It does nothing and you get splattered?
Can you jump with it?

DEG23
08-29-2012, 11:26 PM
Trying to make the internet happy is the worst thing any game developer can do. Reach is a product of Bungie trying to please everyone at once which then ended up pleasing almost no one and alienated a good 50% of their playerbase within a few months of release.

The only time any developer should listen to the internet is when they do a beta. Even then, they should only take the most complained about things, and then the developer should decide how to handle the situation.

I see where you are coming from but with other game developers i am grateful they try and please the internet. IMO there is nothing worse then having a community complain about a feature in a game only to see it return in the sequel.

I don't know much about the halo playerbase over the years but i spent more time playing Reach MP than 3 & ODST combined so again, IMO, i welcome the developer trying to please the internet community.

Elit3 m0nkey
08-30-2012, 04:02 AM
I know you said you played on small maps, but did you play on Longbow or see any gameplay on Longbow? I ask because I have a question about the Light Shield, which is, when you get rammed from a vehicle while using it, do you:



Slide across the ground and take no damage?
Slide across the ground and take some damage/it breaks?
Hold your ground and take no damage, causing the vehicle to blow?
Hold your ground and it breaks?
It does nothing and you get splattered?
Can you jump with it?


Unfortunately I have no idea what happens. Longbow was the only map I didn't play. My best guess is that at slow speed you will be unharmed while at high speed the vehicle will be able to destroy the shield and run yo over. That's only a guess though.

Blink
08-30-2012, 05:48 PM
I think it looks alright. It can't be any worse than Reach, think of it that way...

theNomad
09-03-2012, 01:51 PM
im glad they made sprint standard, and still able to pick an armor ability, chose your loadout.
cant really comment on how if it looks like halo 3 gameplay, bc ive only played Reach.. maybe ill go pick it up today, after all, its only 10 bucks at gamestop. i keep hearing from every one that i need to play H3, and that halo reach was a let down.

Agree on the sprint my only real choice ability wise (even if sometimes it was just to run to a pickup before someone else got it), its one thing Reach did well and its why I find going back to the earlier games hard because they seem slightly pedestrian.

MixMaker1
09-03-2012, 06:03 PM
Agree on the sprint my only real choice ability wise (even if sometimes it was just to run to a pickup before someone else got it), its one thing Reach did well and its why I find going back to the earlier games hard because they seem slightly pedestrian.
The problem with Reach's sprint (and I used with Sprint 99% of the time) was that it would allow you - to prolong and/or run away from Firefights. This slowed down the pace on an already slower experience and frustrated a lot of people.

In Halo 4, if you get shot while sprinting you will slow down and be a sitting duck. In Reach, you could run away from fire when getting hit.

Halo 4 did a HUGE favor in this.

Vectorman953
09-03-2012, 06:37 PM
I was feeling all optimistic until I saw the changes to CTF and Oddball.

Being able to use the pistol while holding the flag presents two possible problems.
1) the pistol is a decent matchup to the other weapons - this means that a good player being the flag carrier can run through the entire team without the "protect the flag carrier" idea that I like/love about the game type.
2) the pistol is a weak weapon only used in this last case scenario and it's not really going to help you anyway.

Automatically picking up the flag, and no way to drop it?
I dont know about all of you, but I've played with some real idiots. Even with the competent players in the CTF playlist, most are just in it for kills and don't even want to touch the flag. Imagine dealing with one of these people if they accidentally get the flag.



The passing mechanic for the oddball is just going to take an interesting game, and ruin it. A few players are going to get really really good at long/bounce passing, and it's going to be impossible to counter.

HaloHalo
01-22-2014, 01:31 PM
What?! Something in a game looks like something from another game?! Call the editor, we've got a new frontpage headline!


Right, they definitely put it in all caps because that's the intended spelling. It has nothing to do with it being more eye-catching or anything. I'm guessing it's an acronym, but if that were the case, it would likely be for High Altitude, Low Opening, a type of jump first used by Naked Snake in Metal Gear Solid 3. MGS 3 was a really great game. Did you play MGS 3? Eating a snake seems really gross. I would not eat a snake, at least not a raw snake. That weird snake scar on Boss' chest was really weird too...

Anyway, it's not all caps you moron.

Aha no need to rage on this unsuspecting poster,neckbeard.

It's his opinion to write HALO how ever he wants, you tell people to get over weapon skins and you can't even get over the font in which people write a video game in *rolls eyes* I'm never posting here again and i wont read your idiotic nonsensical reply that will undoubtedly be filled with "owns" or "burns" aha have fun being a virgin the rest of your life.Your attitude on the topic of a video game on the internet really speaks volumes for the state of your virginity

TVthePunisher
01-22-2014, 09:02 PM
Aha no need to rage on this unsuspecting poster,neckbeard.

It's his opinion to write HALO how ever he wants, you tell people to get over weapon skins and you can't even get over the font in which people write a video game in *rolls eyes* I'm never posting here again and i wont read your idiotic nonsensical reply that will undoubtedly be filled with "owns" or "burns" aha have fun being a virgin the rest of your life.Your attitude on the topic of a video game on the internet really speaks volumes for the state of your virginity

I love that argument: "a video game on the internet", because apparently having discussions in regards to something using the internet is SILLY. Especially if it's a video game, oh my GAH!

First off, you're misinterpreting Ty's post here. The person he quoted was being a bit snarky by saying the following:

HALO (yes all capitals look at your game cases)

He's pointing out something that is completely irrelevant. He's making it seem like you HAVE to type "Halo" in all capitals when, like YOU said, the words can be written any way one damn well pleases. However, THAT GUY insisted that people better type out "Halo" in all CAPS otherwise you're an ignorant fuck!

So you went after the wrong guy buddy, Ty was simply stating in response to that ignorant comment on how to type the word "Halo". Just as an FYI, roughly 90% of video game cases have the title in all capitals. Yet you don't see people going around saying CALL OF DUTY, BATMAN: ARKHAM ASYLUM, ASSASSIN'S CREED: BROTHERHOOD, ALAN WAKE, DEAD RISING...nah. People usually capitalize the first letter, like you should and leave it like that.

Secondly, you quoted someone from over a year ago...and the only reason I'm here is because after you posted what you did, you PM'd him like some idjit. As if this really bothered you enough to go about first making your pointless little rant in response to him and then, messaging him to say he's a virgin. It's hilarious, it really is.

Everything about what you said suggest to me that you're no older than 16 and if you are, you're just a "casual" that loves to talk shit and act tough for no reason other than to be a punk. It's funny, this is your "only post" you claim...are you in fact the original person who wrote what Ty quoted? Why would you make an account just to bitch in a thread and then, bitch at him in PM's? Him having no life? You wasted more time than he probably did originally posting in response to that guy!

Bravo!

Edit: As for me? I've got time to spare, so I felt like ranting! Plenty of life out of these 2 minutes it took me to type this up! =) and I've had plenty of sex....oh my yes.

Mapmakermaster
02-07-2014, 11:51 PM
I 1v1 with my bestie every week. We still only play in Halo 3. Frankly, it was the last Halo game to play like a Halo game.

Hishoa
02-14-2014, 03:03 AM
I'm never posting here again

The hell? You literally registered just to say this? I don't think it's Ty's supposed virginity we need to worry about here. ;)

halomike927
02-25-2014, 04:29 PM
The hell? You literally registered just to say this? I don't think it's Ty's supposed virginity we need to worry about here. ;)

lol I found that pretty funny as well.

Rymt
03-04-2014, 04:48 AM
You're not alone at all. It's missing some core thing that the original Halo games used to have. Doesn't have the soul the older ones used to.

Pokenut
03-24-2014, 05:29 AM
Halo 4 multiplayer is my least favorite in the series. The art style, weird sounds in gametypes and lack of any feeling of playing a Halo game is just sad. Hopefully they can turn it around, but I'm not sure that will happen. And most of the armor looks like it came from the Power Rangers series.