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Stormy2k
06-21-2012, 10:59 AM
The article was posted today on this site regarding 'Free-to-Play' games:

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-12093-The-Future-of-the-Industry-is-Free-to-Play--Says-EA.html

What are your thoughts?

Im totally not in favour of this route. Im all for downloading a full game rather than going to a shop down the line (if the prices are matched and the game is released on the same day), but I don't want to get a game for free next gen, like, lets say Mass Effect 4 for example and then I have to pay for the characters in your squad or some missions using your own money which by time you are done you may as well of paid for a full game.

Im sure they would do a download for free and pay for certain content or pay 20 and you get most of the game with other extras locked until you pay or maybe just a buy outright option for full price. Well I hope.

Thats what put me of some arcade games where you download them and it says if your want this weapon/character or skin, you must purchase it. Excuse me, I just brought the game, don't take the piss.

Why can't they just let people buy a full game straight from a console, why break a game up into sections, if EA does that and other Publishers, I may think twice with some titles over others published or made by them.

Just stick with DLC!

Skilled
06-21-2012, 11:25 AM
If they make it free then they get more traffic and can place ads in the free section. My guess.

I for one don't like the idea, one time fee for a full game is my preferred way.

CHIRUNO99
06-21-2012, 12:05 PM
I think it's a brilliant business model as you get the chance to try a game for absolutely free. You can play as little or as much as you'd like without it ever being an issue with value. Micro-transactions are great for this as well since anyone who invests a considerable amount of time into a game will want to have more content to use. It's how Valve use Team Fortress 2 to give the players a good game to play and sell back 'side-grades' and HATS!!!1 along with other games selling just cosmetic items.

Dungeons and Dragons Online does this really well allowing players to buy passes to dungeons for their friends.

However it has it's bad sides, when players can buy power for the sake of winning and being better.

It really comes down to how the F2P model is being implemented. If you can play the majority of the game as much and for as much as you'd like then it's good, and if people aren't running around and buying the best equipment and being the most powerful then it can be a really fun experience.

fallout frank
06-21-2012, 12:23 PM
Past efforts have proven that free to play games are not that good (my opinion), I can't think of a single free to play game that I actually want to play.

They want to do it because they can put less effort into a game and still have people fork out 10x the value of the game in micro transactions to have the best shit and an advantage in the game. The fact is micro transactions make more money than any game if it is done well, using Fifa and its ultimate team as an example, I remember EA saying that they expect to make over $100 million from ultimate team 2012.

Now I know Fifa is not free to play but it is the micro transactions that they are interested in, and im willing to bet that the only reason EA are so interested in doing this is because of the success of ultimate team.

ZedChuva
06-21-2012, 02:35 PM
You download the game for free.

You start up the game for free.

You begin playing, and "If you want to move out of this room, give us $5"

You walk out of the room, and "If you want a weapon, give us $5"

You start playing, and "If you wish to access the next area, give us $5"

You enter next area...

You get my point. That $60 game, will end up costing $140 in the long run, and companies like EA make MORE money, cause they're saving on physical media and packaging.

Screw this idea, but really, I don't care. They do it, and I'm out of gaming. Same with DRM. Do it, and I'm out. Saves me a chunk of change.

AmbaLaBamba
06-21-2012, 02:41 PM
That $60 game, will end up costing $140 in the long run, and companies like EA make MORE money, cause they're saving on physical media and packaging.

Screw this idea, but really, I don't care. They do it, and I'm out of gaming. Same with DRM. Do it, and I'm out. Saves me a chunk of change.

This, if it happens I'm backing down. I don't want to be forking over even more money for things I could get for a single price now.

Chaz Of Sparta
06-21-2012, 02:44 PM
You download the game for free.

You start up the game for free.

You begin playing, and "If you want to move out of this room, give us $5"

You walk out of the room, and "If you want a weapon, give us $5"

You start playing, and "If you wish to access the next area, give us $5"

You enter next area...

You get my point. That $60 game, will end up costing $140 in the long run, and companies like EA make MORE money, cause they're saving on physical media and packaging.

Screw this idea, but really, I don't care. They do it, and I'm out of gaming. Same with DRM. Do it, and I'm out. Saves me a chunk of change.

Exactly. This just seems like another way for companies to make tons of more money with hardly any effort.

sleepydumbdude
06-21-2012, 04:10 PM
I like Free2play games. I think in the years that I have played them the all together I have spent less than 20 dollars in all of them combined. One of them was like 10 dollars in Maple Story back when it first came out. I did put like 80 hours into that grindfest but enjoyed doing it in the 3 months I played. I like some of them have referral options like if you sign up for something else that is free or go watch some commercials then you get in game currency to buy stuff.
I just hate that some of them start out good and they don't seem to improve very much and by the time they do then most the old userbase has got bored and left.

Gackt
06-21-2012, 04:12 PM
Free to play = pay to win. It's not a good direction for games at all.

Nevander
06-21-2012, 05:13 PM
Free-to-play is so dumb. I like it the way it is. I want to buy the game and own all the content which is on the disc that I purchase. I'm also against on-disc locked content. That needs to stop as well.

WipeoutBoy1
06-21-2012, 06:23 PM
If that happens il retire from gaming.

ExtremeRugburn
06-21-2012, 07:07 PM
Im not a fan of free to play. Even with an increase in free to play games I dont see the old model being completely trashed. Their will still be plenty of games that we can buy at a flat rate.

Opiate42
06-21-2012, 08:27 PM
Free to play = pay to win. It's not a good direction for games at all.

Completely agree.

Addictions-wise I don't see free-to-play with microtransactions as any different than gambling. Walk into a casino for some easy fun, walk out with a 4th mortgage and someone stole your wallet.

One more hold'em hand...one more turn at Farmville... then the credit card bill comes in. That's called a hangover.

Metabolic XBA
06-21-2012, 08:42 PM
I like Free2play games. I think in the years that I have played them the all together I have spent less than 20 dollars in all of them combined. One of them was like 10 dollars in Maple Story back when it first came out. I did put like 80 hours into that grindfest but enjoyed doing it in the 3 months I played. I like some of them have referral options like if you sign up for something else that is free or go watch some commercials then you get in game currency to buy stuff.
I just hate that some of them start out good and they don't seem to improve very much and by the time they do then most the old userbase has got bored and left.

But I bet you haven't spent nearly as much time playing them as full retail games, right?

I personally think this is a horrible idea for gamers, obviously a great idea for publishers otherwise EA wouldn't be backing it. I'm not one of those Ea haters who boycott them for this reason or that, I recognize that they are a business and a business needs to make money. The fact that they are backing this just re-affirms for me that to get the full and complete experience out of their games it's gonna cost us a lot more then retail prices right now, if not why bother?

EmporerDragon
06-22-2012, 04:37 AM
Free to play = pay to win. It's not a good direction for games at all.

Not always. I look at Team Fortress 2 as Free to Play done right. Practically everything that can be bought can be found in-game (And those that can't can be easily traded for), and with two exceptions, all weapons are sidegrades, allowing a person with just the default vanilla weapons to be able to compete with someone who has them all.