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Metabolic XBA
06-29-2012, 08:56 PM
I just read an article over at IGN.com about the biggest problems of the PS3. This part stood out...


A couple years ago, Sony unleashed PlayStation.Blog.Share (http://share.blog.us.playstation.com/), a forum where users could post things that would improve the PlayStation experience. The "most popular" threads haven't changed much since the platformed launched.
http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2012/06/blogshare-610x817.jpg (http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/24/previewpreview?p=463979&preview=true)


I'm not going to beat the dead horse of cross-game chat (the PS3 can't do it because of the way it was built (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/118/1189293p1.html)), I know PlayStation Plus automatically syncs subscribers' Trophies, and LittleBigPlanet 2 does allow separate PSN log-ins. But, let's be honest: this stuff should be standard for all users in every game. When designing the PlayStation 3, it's like Sony got way ahead of itself and skipped these simple steps and chose to include "Printer Settings" instead.


I should be able to play with you on your PS3 and earn a Trophy on both our accounts. Your PSN profile should be the start screen of your PlayStation experience -- a constant reminder of what you've accomplished, who your friends are, and the greater online world. Right now, most of the people I know play their Xbox 360s over their PlayStation 3s because they think "that's where my friends are." The clunky problems above are just the tip of the iceberg as to why people are making that choice.


In a way, the PlayStation.Blog.Share has backfired. Initially started to give users a voice, the site now stands as a monument to how unable Sony is to iterate on its hardware. Not only have the items above been at the top of the list forever, an IGN article two years ago (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/118/1189293p1.html) endorsed a number of suggestions on the Share site and only two of them them have come true (PS2 games, new avatars). Re-reading the article, many of the items from above pop-up and are joined by similarly cumbersome items like the inability to charge PS3 controllers in standby mode and delete Trophies at zero percent.


Why advertise what the system can't do but fans want?

Now is it me or does that just sound like they are describing everything the 360 can do? I've had both consoles since their respective launches but never really enjoyed gaming on the PS3, initially because of the lack of an achievement system when I had already become invested in it on my 360, but also because of constant huge firmware installations and such. The final nail in the PS3's coffin for me came when I excitedly rushed home to play MGS4 only to wait over an hour while it installed (also it was naff so that didn't help). Until I saw all of the above laid out though it never really occurred to me just how many basic functions we take for granted on the 360.

Anyone else own a PS3 but barely uses it?

ChickinOnaChain
06-29-2012, 09:02 PM
I've never had one or wanted one. Just the name...Playstation...sounds weak. (that's the best, least offensive word I could come up with)

Vigor
06-29-2012, 09:07 PM
At least the name makes more sense than Xbox, this generation doesn't even look like the X shape anymore and 360.. shouldn't the Xbox be a circle by now or does the 360 stand for recycling or loophole or..

xXxDave69prxXx
06-29-2012, 09:09 PM
I've never had one or wanted one. Just the name...Playstation...sounds weak. (that's the best, least offensive word I could come up with)
I GOT LONG TIME PLAY 1 AND THEN PLAY 2 AND WHEN I GOING TO BUY THE PLAY 3 I SAY LET ME EXPIRENCE THE XBOX360 AND BRO IM NOT GOIN BACK TO PLAYSTATION, (XBOX360 RULE) THE BEST:locked

ChickinOnaChain
06-29-2012, 09:10 PM
At least the name makes more sense than Xbox, this generation doesn't even look like the X shape anymore and 360.. shouldn't the Xbox be a circle by now or does the 360 stand for recycling or loophole or..
I'm not crazy about "Xbox" either. That's why I usually call it "360".

Sarsage
06-29-2012, 09:11 PM
I have a PS3, but it's just been collecting dust since I played Heavy Rain.

Metabolic XBA
06-29-2012, 09:15 PM
I'm not crazy about "Xbox" either. That's why I usually call it "360".

This got me thinking where the name actually came from...


In 1998 four engineers from Microsoft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft)'s DirectX (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectX) team, Kevin Bachus, Seamus Blackley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seamus_Blackley), Ted Hase and DirectX team leader Otto Berkes, disassembled some Dell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell) laptop (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laptop) computers to construct a prototype (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prototype) Microsoft Windows (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows)-based video game console (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_console). The team hoped to create a console to compete with the Sony (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony)'s upcoming PlayStation 2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_2), which was luring game developers away from the Windows platform (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computing_platform). The team approached Ed Fries (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Fries), the leader of Microsoft's game publishing business at the time, and pitched their "DirectX Box" console based on the DirectX graphics technology developed by Berkes' team. Fries decided to support the team's idea of creating a Windows DirectX based console.[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox#cite_note-seattletimes_20110525-4)[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox#cite_note-seattletimes_20110524-5)
During development, the original DirectX box name was shortened to Xbox.

Microsoft's marketing department did not like the Xbox name, and suggested many alternatives. During focus testing, the Xbox name was left on the list of possible names to demonstrate how unpopular the Xbox name would be with consumers. However, consumer testing revealed that Xbox was preferred by far over the other suggested names and "Xbox" became the official name of the product Backfire much? lol

Rums
06-29-2012, 09:24 PM
They're both amazing systems. Sony has Home, which could be the coolest thing ever, if it wasn't filled with 10yr olds.

ChickinOnaChain
06-29-2012, 09:24 PM
Funny that the team didn't like the name! I wonder what the other choices were?

AmbaLaBamba
06-29-2012, 09:29 PM
They're both good in their own ways; I play one console for one reason and the other for other reasons. It's really that simple.

DOOKH8R
06-29-2012, 09:36 PM
I have never liked the PS3 controller.

bigbear2face
06-29-2012, 09:47 PM
I have never liked the PS3 controller.

Originally I hated the first Xbox (not the 360) because of that enormous, behemoth like controller at first release. The second gen controllers weren't bad as far as their size but they still had those stupid ass white and black buttons.

Then I hated the ps3 controller because it felt...small. Its basically the same as the ps2 controller but it just feels insubstantial in my hands.

Honestly, the ps2 and 360 controllers are the best I've ever gamed with going all the way back to the intellivision.


To answer one of the OPs questions (sort of): I no longer own a ps3 but I did have a original release 80GB ps3. I've mentioned many a time on these forums how many hardware problems I had with that poorly engineered POS. Combine that with the piss poor customer support I got from Sony and it will be a very long time before I give another one of their products a chance.

mrj3d
06-29-2012, 10:44 PM
I've had both for a few years now. While I would say the I mainly play my 360, I'm happy to own a PS3 and would not get rid of it. I enjoy the exclusives it has, and I'm not afraid to get the PS3 version of a game if it is significantly better than the 360 version. I do prefer the xbox overall, it definitely sees more game time.

NoctisXZ
06-30-2012, 12:26 AM
It does seem a little odd that most of those things weren't included at launch but I'm sure if they could have they would have. But wasn't there a lot of design mistakes when creating the PS3? It created a lot of limitation for the system from my understanding.

I really do believe that come the next generation of consoles Sony is going to overtake Microsoft. Learning from their mistakes and adding more in-depth persistent profiles/achievements I don't see how they can't with the direction that Microsoft seems to be going in. Although people are extremely stubborn when it comes to things like this.. often resistant to switching consoles even if it does offer a better GAMING experience.

Fixing/Adding the things in that list they have would be a huge step for them for starters. They already have much better/diverse exclusive titles..

One thing that would really give them an edge is backwards compatibility. I don't even know if it's possible but being able to play old PS1 and PS2 games along with PS3 games on the PS4 would be a godsend. I'm starting to veer off topic now and just mention things I'd like to see now but really who wouldn't?

Though sadly I've heard a rumor that the system won't be backwards compatible do to certain system design.. hopefully it's wrong, because it would be a huge oversight on Sony's part if it was.

The next cycle will be extremely interesting to watch unfold at the least. Microsoft's current direction has become off putting to me honestly. I don't care about the Kinect and don't think it's going to change anything no matter how much it's tweaked and I certainly don't care about the extra, non-gaming, features it has/will offer. Though I don't mind them at all.

All Sony has to do is fix somethings and I'll most likely switch. They're already doing some neat things from what I've heard. Offering free games if you're a member.. non-shitty games at that. Even if they did start charging maybe $5-$10 for the service I really wouldn't mind if they still offered things like that.

gturner83
06-30-2012, 02:02 AM
PS3 has a few good games, but I returned mine because it became an overpriced blu ray player... XBOX forever

Wildmn34
06-30-2012, 02:33 AM
The only reaso I have not considered a Playstation seriously, and this is the honest to god truth. I can't stand that controller. It doesn't feel right in my hand at all.

CONKER1182
06-30-2012, 02:42 AM
Some things are better on PS3 some things are better on Xbox 360. I play PS3 for Sony exclusives and Xbox 360 for all games.

hydrosugar
06-30-2012, 03:03 AM
I have never liked the PS3 controller.

That's my main gripe with it. Even the lack of cross game chat doesn't bother me. But they feel so small and brittle, even for me who has smallish hands.

Wildmn34
06-30-2012, 03:05 AM
That's my main gripe with it. Even the lack of cross game chat doesn't bother me. But they feel so small and brittle, even for me who has smallish hands.

That is almost my exact thought too.

CONKER1182
06-30-2012, 03:10 AM
That's my main gripe with it. Even the lack of cross game chat doesn't bother me. But they feel so small and brittle, even for me who has smallish hands.

Like Sony can`t come up with a better controller than the Xbox 360 controller.

iheardUrip1
06-30-2012, 03:37 AM
They're both good in their own ways; I play one console for one reason and the other for other reasons. It's really that simple.

Pretty much agree. Although I do slightly lean towards the PS3 in favouritism.

runswithscissors
06-30-2012, 07:13 AM
Now is it me or does that just sound like they are describing everything the 360 can do?

Exactly what I was thinking. All ps3 people can come up with is blueray player/free online/better name. The name thing is getting a bit desperate. I do agree playstation sounds better but thats hardly a reason to choose a different system... and I always thought it was because the original one was in the shape of a X. I hated the original one by the way

And no I have never had a ps3, that is what I originally wanted but was way too expensive, I had a ps1/ps2 before that

Treisio
06-30-2012, 07:58 AM
The only thing the PS3 has over Xbox is its Blu-ray player. Other than that, it's more of a console to be played by yourself and not with friends. I can't even play Xbox without being able to talk to one of my buddies.

CHIRUNO99
06-30-2012, 08:02 AM
I have a PS3 but I've been barely using it. I only play on it when I have a friend or two around and we usually just play something silly. I do agree that I take the Xbox360 features for granted since they've helped making on-line console gaming so much easier than the PS3, Wii and sometimes PC.

And on that list:
Feature 1 was announced at E3 a year ago and they still haven't delivered, still it's not that bad since a certain company still doesn't know how to count to 3 and we've been waiting a few years now.

Feature 2 is actually happening now, you can get PS2 emulations on the PS3, but the only problem is they cost a bomb and it's ridiculous. It's actually cheaper to get a PS2.

Feature 3 is actually on the PS3, however it's a part of PSN+ which is silly idea imho. Automatic Updates should be available for everyone regardless.

iBuzz7S
06-30-2012, 09:19 AM
I have never liked the PS3 controller.
Then you're going to love this!

http://cdn.cnet.com.au/story_media/339339224/sony-ps-move-steering-wheel.jpg

Can't remember which video it was on YouTube, but Sony fans were ecstatic of the design. They even labelled it as innovative. Funny how when Kinect is said to be innovative, automatically the argument becomes "they copied the PS Eye Camera" but heaven forbid you say that the PS Move Steering Wheel is a shitty clone of Nintendo's Wii Racing Wheel. Somehow that comment sparks some rage.

I own a PS3 and a Vita. I bought my PS3 late last year because of the pending release of Jak and Daxter. I was more reluctant to buy a PS3 because I found a white one. Since I have bought it, I will say with no lie that I have not played it for more than 30 hours. I didn't even end up buying Jak and Daxter because I lost interest after seeing what it looked like with my own eyes. I have Uncharted 3 and I don't even play that because I feel that it's overrated.

Though I have to say, those HD collections are a great excuse for owning a PS3. At least Sony do bother making 'em while Microsoft continue to give us shit.

The Vita on the other hand, I regret buying it. Bought it on release and maybe played it for 27-40 hours in total. I use it more for the Unit 13 demo than anything else, even though I have Rayman Origins in it. I am actually waiting on jailbreaking it so I can run homebrew and all that other fancy stuff.

I just feel that the Xbox 360 gives me what I need. The PS3 could do the same, but as quoted above, I don't like the controller. It hasn't changed in design since the PS1. It also lacks the small things like not being able to queue items to your console from Sony's website, installing games AFTER downloading them.....

360 - all gaming needd
PS3 - exclusives
Vita - I dunno why I got one... maybe because I am a sheep? :p

otaking live
06-30-2012, 09:44 AM
I've got one. And damn is it dusty!

Mutalus
06-30-2012, 09:57 AM
Ever since i got an xbox 360 my playstation 3 has been used for blu-rays only. Here playstation 3 games have ridiculous prices compared to xbox 360 games. I am still keeping an eye out for price drops on the good exclusives, but at the moment its simply buy one ps3 exclusive or 2-3 xbox 360 games for the same amount of money.

xKRAIZEEMANx
06-30-2012, 10:34 AM
Never owned a PS3, nor do I have any intentions of ever getting one. Also, everyone I know and game with has a 360, so....

theNomad
06-30-2012, 10:42 AM
I have a PS3, but it's just been collecting dust since I played Heavy Rain.

Quantic Dream the team behind 'Heavy Rain', have another title coming 'Beyond' that looks totally awesome. Other than 'Halo 4' it was the highlight of the whole show.

Burnout x360a
06-30-2012, 10:43 AM
Then you're going to love this!

http://cdn.cnet.com.au/story_media/339339224/sony-ps-move-steering-wheel.jpg



http://i.imgur.com/RmUyc.gif

Seriously though, I prefer the 360 myself but I don't really care what people game on as long as they aren't being "fanboys" and arguing needlessly.

hydrosugar
06-30-2012, 10:44 AM
Then you're going to love this!

http://cdn.cnet.com.au/story_media/339339224/sony-ps-move-steering-wheel.jpg



That thing is hideous. Not just impractical like the PS3 controller, but an aesthetic mess.

cjdavies
06-30-2012, 12:20 PM
Good thing about the PS3 is it can play Blu-rays, yand you can play online for free (I think).

Only use my 360 (can't even say Xbox) for playing games online and offline and watching DVD's (current player is broke), I don't chat, don't use Netflix (don't have much choice anyway), facebook and twitter that is what the laptop is for.

ChromiumDragon
06-30-2012, 12:23 PM
I've never believed the story of the PS3 not being capable of cross-game chat. People had been asking for cross-game chat for years. If the system wasn't capable of cross-game chat, why didn't Sony just say so in the first place? Why did they allow their customers to hold out hope for a feature they supposedly never knew would come? I think they're simply waiting until the PS4 and just claimed that the PS3 wasn't capable of cross-game chat just so people would stop asking.

The PS3 originally had full hardware-based backwards compatability. That was removed to get the costs of the PS3 down in favor of software-based compatability, which was also eventually removed. They *could* put it back in, but they're choosing not to. With that being said, I'd be willing to bet that PS2's backwards compatability would get used about as often as Linux was used when that was available (not counting hackers and the whole Geohot debacle that led to the PS3 eventually being fully cracked).

One thing I do like about the PS3's messaging system is that when you get a message, the subject also appears in the notification. A lot of people use this as a workaround to send short messages by simply typing what they need in the subject line. If the message is short enough (Yes/no messsages, abbreviated words, etc.), there's sometimes no need to even actually open the message at all.

I also like friend requests where you can actually put a message in the request itself, rather than having to send a separate message.

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That all being said, I'm in the "Own PS3 but barely use it" camp. I was actually given an x-box by a friend of mine (before anyone asks....we've known each other for over 20 years and it's not unusual for us to give each other things we're not using any more. He upgraded to a newer model). As an exclusive PS3 player, I gave the x-box to my son to use at the time. Now that he's older and we have the same taste in games, it's cheaper to buy games for only one system. Since he plays with friends on the X-Box, and I actually like the ability to play my own music in games, we decided to stick to the X-Box. My PS3 is only used for exclusives, Blu-Ray, and occasionally playing PS3 with my godchild who is a dedicated PS3 fangirl and a bit of a techie. (She's one of those people who uses her console as her entire media hub, has it set up to do all sorts of things, and refuses to "start over" on a new console).

iBuzz7S
06-30-2012, 12:46 PM
One thing I do like about the PS3's messaging system is that when you get a message, the subject also appears in the notification.
It also saves sent messages, which is something that a fair few Xbox 360 users have wanted for quite some time.

Ugh, I really need to sort out my cable situation with the HD PVR so I can use both consoles whenever I like and not have to fiddle with cables whenever I want to switch. I really do miss using the PS3.

Skorpion XBA
06-30-2012, 01:08 PM
That's my main gripe with it. Even the lack of cross game chat doesn't bother me. But they feel so small and brittle, even for me who has smallish hands.

When I first played the 360, the controller was the first thing that grabbed me. It felt like the controller was made to fit my hands.

Burnout x360a
06-30-2012, 01:17 PM
That's my main gripe with it. Even the lack of cross game chat doesn't bother me. But they feel so small and brittle, even for me who has smallish hands.

I have to agree, never had a problem/noticed it because the PS1 and PS2 were the controllers I was used to but after playing 360 and getting used to the controller, going back feels extremely weird. The analogues feel strangely placed (despite using them for years) and the whole thing just feels light and small.

I think the 360 controller is well designed ergonomically, it's got a nice weight (don't know if the wired is lighter) and it fits the hand very well. I don't think i've ever found it uncomfortable.

bigbear2face
06-30-2012, 01:27 PM
I have to agree, never had a problem/noticed it because the PS1 and PS2 were the controllers I was used to but after playing 360 and getting used to the controller, going back feels extremely weird. The analogues feel strangely placed (despite using them for years) and the whole thing just feels light and small.

I think the 360 controller is well designed ergonomically, it's got a nice weight (don't know if the wired is lighter) and it fits the hand very well. I don't think i've ever found it uncomfortable.


The thing is that the ps3 controller is smaller and significantly lighter then the ps1/ps2 controllers. So without even getting used to the 360 controller the ps3 controller felt small and fragile to me. Then after getting used to the 360 controller it feels even smaller.

hydrosugar
06-30-2012, 01:33 PM
I have to agree, never had a problem/noticed it because the PS1 and PS2 were the controllers I was used to but after playing 360 and getting used to the controller, going back feels extremely weird. The analogues feel strangely placed (despite using them for years) and the whole thing just feels light and small.

I think the 360 controller is well designed ergonomically, it's got a nice weight (don't know if the wired is lighter) and it fits the hand very well. I don't think i've ever found it uncomfortable.

Yeah I grew up with the PS1/PS2. My hands are smallish now, but they were obviously those of a child when I was younger. But they're not now, and the PS3 controller just feels unsatisfying. At least I only have to use it when i go to a friends house.

Metabolic XBA
06-30-2012, 03:43 PM
Definitely agree with the controller issue too, it's just so...tiny...and the first gen's lack of vibration was like being taken back to the 90's.

Starkweather
06-30-2012, 04:14 PM
I like my PS3 for exclusives, Blu-Rays and believe or not, my browser can actually stream TV episodes or even a movie i let it load a little while. I bought it initially for Heavy Rain and haven't regretted it since.

Although my biggest annoyance's is no cross game chat and game/psn updates or downloads, 2gb for example can sometimes take 5 hours on my PS3 whilst only 20-30 mins if that on 360. Both wired connections so no excuse.

SilentStrike011
06-30-2012, 04:34 PM
PS3 has a few good games, but I returned mine because it became an overpriced blu ray player... XBOX forever

This is why I never bought one. If I wanted a blu ray player, I'd buy a blu ray player for less money than a PS3.

I don't know why people are so upset by the xbox being called xbox. Who cares what it's called or why it's called that? It's just a name.

xXxDave69prxXx
06-30-2012, 04:36 PM
WHERE THE NAME (XBOX) COME FROM!!!!!
History

In 1998 four engineers from Microsoft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft)'s DirectX (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectX) team, Kevin Bachus, Seamus Blackley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seamus_Blackley), Ted Hase and DirectX team leader Otto Berkes, disassembled some Dell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell) laptop (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laptop) computers to construct a prototype (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prototype) Microsoft Windows (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows)-based video game console (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_console). The team hoped to create a console to compete with the Sony (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony)'s upcoming PlayStation 2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_2), which was luring game developers away from the Windows platform (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computing_platform). The team approached Ed Fries (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Fries), the leader of Microsoft's game publishing business at the time, and pitched their "DirectX Box" console based on the DirectX graphics technology developed by Berkes' team. Fries decided to support the team's idea of creating a Windows DirectX based console.[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox#cite_note-seattletimes_20110525-4)[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox#cite_note-seattletimes_20110524-5)
During development, the original DirectX box name was shortened to Xbox. Microsoft's marketing department did not like the Xbox name, and suggested many alternatives. During focus testing, the Xbox name was left on the list of possible names to demonstrate how unpopular the Xbox name would be with consumers. However, consumer testing revealed that Xbox was preferred by far over the other suggested names and "Xbox" became the official name of the product.[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox#cite_note-gamasutra_2009-08-14-6)
The Xbox was Microsoft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft)'s first video game console after collaborating with Sega (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega) to port Windows CE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows_CE) to the Dreamcast (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreamcast) console. Microsoft repeatedly delayed the console, which was first mentioned publicly in late 1999 during interviews with Microsoft's then-CEO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CEO) Bill Gates (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Gates). Gates stated that a gaming/multimedia device was essential for multimedia convergence in the new times.[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox#cite_note-7) When Bill Gates unveiled the Xbox at the Game Developers Conference in 2000, audiences were impressed by the console's technology. At the time of Gates' announcement, Sega's Dreamcast sales were diminishing and Sony's PlayStation 2 was just going on sale in Japan.[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox#cite_note-xboxtimeline1-8)
Due to the immense popularity of gaming consoles in Japan, Microsoft delayed the release of the XBOX in Europe to focus on the Japanese video game market . Although delayed, the European release proved to be more successful than the launch of the XBOX in Japan.

Some of Microsoft's plans proved effective. In preparation for its launch, Microsoft acquired Bungie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bungie) and used Halo: Combat Evolved (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo:_Combat_Evolved) as its launch title. At the time, GoldenEye 007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GoldenEye_007_%281997_video_game%29) for the Nintendo 64 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_64) had been one of the few hit FPS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-person_shooter) games to appear on a console, some of other ones being Perfect Dark (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_Dark) and Medal of Honor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medal_of_Honor). Halo: Combat Evolved proved a good application to drive the Xbox's sales.[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox#cite_note-xboxtimeline1-8) In 2002, Microsoft made the second place slot in consoles sold in North America.
Popular launch games (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Launch_game) for the console included Dead or Alive 3 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_or_Alive_3), Amped: Freestyle Snowboarding (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amped:_Freestyle_Snowboarding), Halo: Combat Evolved (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo:_Combat_Evolved), Fuzion Frenzy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzion_Frenzy), Project Gotham Racing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Gotham_Racing) and Jet Set Radio Future (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_Set_Radio_Future).

iBuzz7S
06-30-2012, 05:11 PM
WHERE THE NAME (XBOX) COME FROM!!!!!

We...kinda...knew...

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/forum/showpost.php?p=5151923&postcount=7

:p

Spock
06-30-2012, 06:22 PM
I did own a PS3 for about half a year. My biggest problem was that none of my friends had one, but even if they did we wouldn't be able to talk and play different games. My second biggest problem was the trophy unlock delay. :p

I don't think the PS3 is any worse overall, it's just missing some useful features, like how the Xbox is also missing some. I wouldn't mind having a PS3 to play some of Sony's amazing exclusives. God, I love those exclusives.

WalterWhite
06-30-2012, 06:26 PM
I had a PS3 about a year after it released. I had the 60 Gb version that was backwards compatable. The biggest thing that sticks out in my mind about that big black box is the constant influx of system and game updates, it was beyond annoying. There were nights I intended to play and that thing took all night to update, it was intrusive.

As far as hating the PS3 controller, I'm with everyone on that. It's good for one thing, playing Pro Skater and being nostalgic. It was a great design in it's time but I find it hard to believe I'll ever like a controller more than I do the 360's.

As far as the PS3 doubling as a Blu-Ray player, that argument doesn't hold up for me anymore. If you're into movies and building a collection you'll just buy a Blu-Ray player. They don't cost three or four hundred dollars like they did a few years back, you can find a decent one for eighty to a hundred bucks any day of the week now. They all have ethernet ports now too unlike when they first released, rendering many players useless.

Of the three consoles this generation the one thing that's true about the PS3 is that is has the most unrealized potential of them all. It's a shame that powerhouse will likely never be utilized to it's full degree. Too late in the game now really. Also after the Playstation network debacle and getting emails about my account being tampered with years after I had gotten rid of the thing left a bad taste I'll never forget.

StillTIPPIN187
06-30-2012, 07:11 PM
Those things are very much things that are wrong the the PS3..

its still a far better made machine the the current xbox.. and can produce wayyy better graphics than the current xbox, if its not actually running a port of a game from xbox.. Which is another problem the PS3 only users have to endure, 90 percent of the games they play are developed on Xbox first and then they get the shitty buggy ports on their console..

Look at Uncharted.. even the first game from 2007 looks better than nearly any Xbox game.. That right there tells you something.. The PS3 is a powerful and amazing machine.. it will never be tapped into like it should because the current Xbox is holding it back.. Sony and its first party developers are the only ones that use the PS3 to its full potential.

MS has the UI of the Xbox down.. But can't do hardware for shit. Sony has the hardware of the PS3 down.. but can't do shit for UI or other features in the UI..

Floorkiller
06-30-2012, 08:20 PM
I have both, and enjoy both...but I prefer my Xbox. P
I like the PS3's menu screen better (Then the current 360 one anyway), and the graphics are amazing. I don't play online or chat much so that doesn't bother me, but I can see how it would bother most ppl. I have +, and the freebies are great, even if they really are just rentals.

These are my 2 biggest gripes (And really, only gripes) are

1. The Controller, like everyone has said- When playing Arkham Asylum, I thought I was going to break it while fighting, it's flimsy. Also the size (like many have said) It's too small for my hands. Also when playing AA I had to prop it against my body to do some of the combos, it just doesn't fit right.

The biggest negative, and one that will keep me from buying too many games in the future, is how the games install on the HD. My 360 has a 250GB HD. Right now, I have nearly 400 games on disc, over 50 arcade games, 6 or so games on demand, and DLC for nearly every game I own. I still have 40GB free. My PS3 has a 320GB HD. I have 77 games on disc, 8 full game downloads, 2 arcade games, DLC for maybe 1/2 of the games and the equivelant of 4 games on demand (My PSN "rentals"). With significantly less stuff, I have just 4GB free. Keep in mind I have another 3 full game downloads (That I own)I can't fit on the HD.
All games ON DISC take up HD space. I have a bunch that take up between 5-9GB EACH. Games on disc should not take up HD space outside of saves, IMO. That said, at least the PS3 runs on a basic laptop HD, so It's easy enough to upgrade if one is so inclined.

I lik my PS3, I love my 360 :D

Metabolic XBA
06-30-2012, 10:40 PM
its still a far better made machine the the current xbox.. and can produce wayyy better graphics than the current xbox, if its not actually running a port of a game from xbox.. Which is another problem the PS3 only users have to endure, 90 percent of the games they play are developed on Xbox first and then they get the shitty buggy ports on their console..

I think this is more Sony's fault than being held back by the Xbox, I have seen multiple developers over the years say that the PS3 is just so damn hard to develop for. Even now a couple have already come out and said that the next-gen xbox dev kits they are working with are far easier to use than the next-gen PS or the Wii U ones. Sony and first party publishers get the most out of the system because they have no other choice, they have to take the hard road.

Barad
06-30-2012, 10:44 PM
Most of my friends actually own a PS3..so if I want to play soemthing i'll go round theirs instead of wasting money on one myself..

FFFreak1129
07-02-2012, 04:22 AM
I want to get a PS3. There are alot of exclusives I want to play on it. Even still the 360 would be my main console because my friends on it.

magikod
07-02-2012, 04:31 AM
PS1 ruled, but after that Xbox all the way.

hydrosugar
07-02-2012, 04:43 AM
PS1 ruled, but after that Xbox all the way.

PS2 was far better than the original xbox. Only now have the roles reversed.

Jamieeeee
07-02-2012, 06:35 AM
Never owned a ps3 so xbox

StillTIPPIN187
07-02-2012, 06:55 AM
I want to get a PS3. There are alot of exclusives I want to play on it. Even still the 360 would be my main console because my friends on it.

Do it! You wont regret it.. If you can find one cheap.. and then only get exclusives.. It will be a nice change of pace from the 2 generic pew pew pew games MS puts out.. (i love Halo, but you get what i mean)

and yes, the Xbox can and very much should still be your main console..

PS1 ruled, but after that Xbox all the way.

Nope.. PS1 and PS2 ruled.. Xbox ruled this gen. IMO.. and Most others as well.

PS2 was far better than the original xbox. Only now have the roles reversed.

better as far as what? games? yes thats the only thing.

But, as far as power and performance and things that made the console stand out and be unique.. the OG XBOX wins.

Xbox was far more powerful than the PS2 and put out better graphics for games that were developed on it (Ahem, the PS3 this gen).. the Xbox had a built in Hard Drive, Ethernet Port for XBL, 4 Controller ports built in.. While the PS2 still used 30 dollar memory cards (if you played alot you would need 3 or 4) and only could take 2 controllers unless you bought a adapter and if you wanted to play online (on the Original "PlayStation 2") you had to buy that network adapter (the Slim "PS2" had it built in) Plus, you could rip music to the OG xbox which i thought was pretty damn niffty to use and had it hooked up to my stereo.

But you are still right.. Things have reversed..

PS3 is now the more powerful console.. and it is Sony who has now included things in their console that MS sells separately.. its pretty funny how they switched.. and its now the Xbox that get all the games (well they did get all the games at first then gen, but now PS3 and Xbox get the same games 99 percent of the time.. But xbox still gets 90 percent of its games developed primarily on its hardware while PS3 gets the port)

hydrosugar
07-02-2012, 07:13 AM
better as far as what? games? yes thats the only thing.

But, as far as power and performance and things that made the console stand out and be unique.. the OG XBOX wins.

Xbox was far more powerful than the PS2 and put out better graphics for games that were developed on it (Ahem, the PS3 this gen).. the Xbox had a built in Hard Drive, Ethernet Port for XBL, 4 Controller ports built in.. While the PS2 still used 30 dollar memory cards (if you played alot you would need 3 or 4) and only could take 2 controllers unless you bought a adapter and if you wanted to play online (on the Original "PlayStation 2") you had to buy that network adapter (the Slim "PS2" had it built in) Plus, you could rip music to the OG xbox which i thought was pretty damn niffty to use and had it hooked up to my stereo.

But you are still right.. Things have reversed..

PS3 is now the more powerful console.. and it is Sony who has now included things in their console that MS sells separately.. its pretty funny how they switched.. and its now the Xbox that get all the games (well they did get all the games at first then gen, but now PS3 and Xbox get the same games 99 percent of the time.. But xbox still gets 90 percent of its games developed primarily on its hardware while PS3 gets the port)

Well clearly. But simplicity for lack of a better word is what sells consoles. Which is why in sales at least PS2 >>>>> Xbox and 360 > PS3. (Though the latter doesn't apply in Japan.) And having better games is by far the most important thing for a console. I still think that now, but even so it was definitely the case in gen 6 before most of this "entertainment" crap started getting added to consoles.

Gamerdude5448
07-02-2012, 08:05 AM
They're both amazing systems. Sony has Home, which could be the coolest thing ever, if it wasn't filled with 10yr olds.

Agreed. But Home isn't enough for me.

Aiden95
07-02-2012, 08:08 AM
i own both and i probabloy like the ps3 more. dont get me wrong im not a fanboy or anything but i prefer the games on the ps3. resistance and uncharted are by far my favourite but i still love to play gears and halo. it just comes down to personal preference

Burnout x360a
07-02-2012, 08:12 AM
PS2 was far better than the original xbox. Only now have the roles reversed.

Successful yes but not better hardware wise, it was actually the weakest out of the Xbox and GameCube but because of the huge following the PS1 had, it sold a shit ton.

Metabolic XBA
07-02-2012, 12:23 PM
PS2 was far better than the original xbox. Only now have the roles reversed.

I have to disagree a little here, based on the reasons Tippin already pointed out. Mainly though it was the advent of XBL that killed the PS2 for me. Yeah I loved playing split-screen Timesplitters with friends but back in the days of having 28" tube tv's it was like playing on a laptop screen sitting 10 feet away, but having that easy to use online architecture built in and being able to play with my friends anytime/place was amazing at the time, we could even still chat. It stopped playing with friends having to be scheduled around when I could get a ride out to them or vice versa. I never was a PC gamer so all that was new to me.

I never got rid of my PS2 because it still had some of the best games around at the time but as far as a full on gaming experience went it was Xbox all the way for me.

warrenpaul
07-02-2012, 04:22 PM
Ive had both, prefer 360 but thats just me, prefer the gamerscore rather than the trophies aswell for some reason

Iceskater101
07-02-2012, 04:30 PM
I love my 360. It plays DVD's, I can go on facebook from it and of course I love the games. I have never wanted to own a PS3 just because they are very expensive and no one really gave me a good enough reason to want to buy one. If anything I would go out and get a wii.

Rafie
07-03-2012, 02:03 PM
Those things are very much things that are wrong the the PS3..

its still a far better made machine the the current xbox.. and can produce wayyy better graphics than the current xbox, if its not actually running a port of a game from xbox.. Which is another problem the PS3 only users have to endure, 90 percent of the games they play are developed on Xbox first and then they get the shitty buggy ports on their console..

Look at Uncharted.. even the first game from 2007 looks better than nearly any Xbox game.. That right there tells you something.. The PS3 is a powerful and amazing machine.. it will never be tapped into like it should because the current Xbox is holding it back.. Sony and its first party developers are the only ones that use the PS3 to its full potential.

MS has the UI of the Xbox down.. But can't do hardware for shit. Sony has the hardware of the PS3 down.. but can't do shit for UI or other features in the UI..

Very well said. A post that isn't biased and stated some facts. Now I can objectively incorporate that and base my own assertions using the template that you have layed down, Tippin'.

Although I like the trophy system better than the achievement...I still play a bit more on the 360 more recently than the PS3. I do still show my PS3 love though. No matter what anyone in the 360 community says, PS3 has way better exclusives and that's the bottom line. 360 is fantastic for all of the obvious reasons most here have already iterated.

CoregBlue1
07-03-2012, 02:27 PM
well i got a ps3 because i am a JRPG fan and PS3 has plenty of them exclusive.

let alone games like Bleach and one piece in september. i think the trophie system is better too.

i play every other game on my xbox because i have more friends playing games together with me there than on ps3.

raptassassin
07-03-2012, 07:03 PM
I just returned to gaming on the 360 after 2 red rings of deaths since launch. its been over a few years since i owned one but i just recently picked up at 360 slim & also got live & i have to say i like having the best of both worlds. Real gamers game on all systems. fanboys or as i like to call them failboys are just broke teens & tweens who can only afford one system. The rest are just HATERS

niko da bos
07-03-2012, 07:14 PM
At least the name makes more sense than Xbox, this generation doesn't even look like the X shape anymore and 360.. shouldn't the Xbox be a circle by now or does the 360 stand for recycling or loophole or..

ahh good point, i forgot my old box used to be black with that huge green X on the middle! also that was when we had the wired controllers, lol or maybe they did sell wireless back then?

i personally stopped using my playstation around when the PS2 came out, there were several factors that made me switch. the main reason being i had friends who wanted me to try halo, and i emmediately fell in love with the controller. i cant even use the PS controller now, it just seems like im going back in time to a nintendo controller or something.

Opiate42
07-03-2012, 07:21 PM
The only reaso I have not considered a Playstation seriously, and this is the honest to god truth. I can't stand that controller. It doesn't feel right in my hand at all.

I play a PS2 or PS3 for more than an hour and my bear paws start cramping up. Fucking things are awful. They just feel wrong.

raptassassin
07-03-2012, 07:27 PM
Lmao at people hateing a system over the controllers. i've been using both controllers for awhile now. & i really feel no differents. next thing u failboys are gonna h8t on

Wildmn34
07-03-2012, 07:35 PM
I just returned to gaming on the 360 after 2 red rings of deaths since launch. its been over a few years since i owned one but i just recently picked up at 360 slim & also got live & i have to say i like having the best of both worlds. Real gamers game on all systems. fanboys or as i like to call them failboys are just broke teens & tweens who can only afford one system. The rest are just HATERS

You are trying really hard to make friends here aren't you? So, by your logic only people that spend money for every system are "real" gamers? That may be one of the most asinine comments I have ever read.

Why would I buy a PS3 when I don't like some of the stuff that it does/doesn't do, or I don't like the controller? Sorry, just because you spend money for every system doesn't make you a gamer. But, evidently it does affect your spelling and name calling ability.

Lmao at people hateing a system over the controllers. i've been using both controllers for awhile now. & i really feel no differents. next thing u failboys are gonna h8t on

Way to add to a discussion by calling people names. You're a class act. Keep it up.

Free spelling lesson for you too, it's difference not differents

Gareth Dent
07-03-2012, 07:53 PM
This is just a hate thread, the fact the OP starts to harp on how the PS3 hasn't evolved well proves this point. It needs to be locked. The majority will always go towards 360 but if this very thread was on the ps3 sister site (PS3T) i guarantee majority would go towards PS3.

PS3 has the ergonomic controller which is pretty much an xbox pad so stop harping on that one issue.
Peace.

Metabolic XBA
07-03-2012, 08:49 PM
This is just a hate thread, the fact the OP starts to harp on how the PS3 hasn't evolved well proves this point. It needs to be locked. The majority will always go towards 360 but if this very thread was on the ps3 sister site (PS3T) i guarantee majority would go towards PS3.

Please, in your infinite wisdom, show me where I EVER harped on about the lack of evolution on the PS3? Like my OP said I saw that article and thought it was interesting that the top rated requests for changes to PS3 are things the 360 can do. A list compiled by PS3 users no less. Then I gave my reasons for why I don't game on my PS3 and asked for other views. How is that a hate thread?

I made three other replies after, that said I found the controllers too small after getting used to the 360 ones, explained why I switched to xbox over the PS2 and how I think the reason for developers porting 360 versions to PS3 is because the dev kits are harder to work with, something that is pretty much common knowledge.

PS3 has the ergonomic controller which is pretty much an xbox pad so stop harping on that one issue.
Peace.http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2016/2301803225_2c81027b6a_z.jpg

Yeah, they are 'pretty much' the same...other than it being around a third smaller, which is why people don't like it. An opinion they are entitled to voice.

Gareth Dent
07-04-2012, 09:52 AM
http://www.gearzap.com/media/catalog/product/p/s/ps3-controller-2.jpg

Burnout x360a
07-04-2012, 10:07 AM
http://www.gearzap.com/media/catalog/product/p/s/ps3-controller-2.jpg

What is that meant to illustrate?

Gareth Dent
07-04-2012, 04:24 PM
He obviously did not understand when i said that playstation 3 has the ergonomic controller which is basically a 360 controller anyway so saying you refuse to play the PS3 based on the controller is a little pathetic when for an extra 10 you could erase that issue.

Metabolic XBA
07-04-2012, 05:28 PM
He obviously did not understand when i said that playstation 3 has the ergonomic controller which is basically a 360 controller anyway so saying you refuse to play the PS3 based on the controller is a little pathetic when for an extra 10 you could erase that issue.

Well you didn't exactly explain you were talking about a separate third party peripheral did you? And posting just a picture with no further explanation isn't exactly helpful either. I never said I didn't play my PS3 because of the controller, I just said I found it too small, if you were referencing me again there please take a minute to read what I say before you preach at me. If it wasn't directed at me, then fair enough, no worries.

CHIRUNO99
07-04-2012, 06:05 PM
I like the standard PS3 controller, only because I had a PS1 many moons ago with a dual shock. It was like a whole new way to play at the time then just 4 face buttons and 2 shoulder buttons.

Of course they're pretty brittle, and the main problem I had was my fingers kept slipping off of the trigger buttons, but Playstation Move is probably the best way to play imho. I'd say it's better than Kinect only because it's an option to most games whereas Kinect the only game you have a choice to use it in or not is Dragon's Lair.

VitaminAmy
07-04-2012, 06:36 PM
I have a PS3 and Xbox... I use the Xbox a lot more. The PS3 mostly collects dust. I have more friends on Xbox and it's way more social. If I spend too much time on PS3, I get bored and miss my friends.

MadRush14
07-04-2012, 11:25 PM
Yes I barely use my PlayStation 3. If the 360 had blu-ray and the Uncharted and Killzone games, then I would have no use for my PS3.

xI WARFARE
07-05-2012, 08:10 AM
I just view the PS3 as a DVD player. That's all it is to me.

Burnout x360a
07-05-2012, 08:13 AM
whereas Kinect the only game you have a choice to use it in or not is Dragon's Lair.

Not true, there are more games that have a choice to use it or not.

StayonTarget
07-05-2012, 06:16 PM
That sounds about right. If I had one complaint with the xbox, it's how damn slow the dashboard is.

Burnout x360a
07-05-2012, 06:19 PM
That sounds about right. If I had one complaint with the xbox, it's how damn slow the dashboard is.

Is the PS3 faster? I've never had any experience with it.

The dashboard can be slow though that's true, especially just trying to open the guide to go to the friends list. The white 'NXE' themed dash was the best in my experience.

The Produca
07-05-2012, 06:22 PM
I don't like the PS3 shape and I hear their free online multiplayer is crap. I feel like I'm getting my 45$ worth of live for a year.

biggred0020
07-05-2012, 06:25 PM
still like my 360..

CHIRUNO99
07-05-2012, 06:40 PM
Not true, there are more games that have a choice to use it or not.
I'm unaware of most of these, I only know of Burnout Crash and Joyride which have two separate versions and some games which use it as a feature like Forza 4, Mass Effect 3 etc. I should have went into detail with that. I specifically meant games where you can play the entire game form start to finish with either a pad or kinect.

Oh and Child of Eden, I forgot about that game where it IS an option.

I still stand on the opinion that most PS3 games that it as an option with the exception of The Fight, The Shoot, Start The Party, Funky Lab Rat and Tumble (Really good game imho) otherwise where Move support is not enabled whatsoever.

Floorkiller
07-05-2012, 06:42 PM
I don't like the PS3 shape and I hear their free online multiplayer is crap. I feel like I'm getting my 45$ worth of live for a year.

I've never noticed any difference between PS3's online and 360's (Though my experience in both is somewhat limited)

xVivaLaGrant
07-05-2012, 06:47 PM
I think I was like most people...
Started with the ps1, moved onto the ps2.
At this point my friend bought an xbox360, So he got me hooked on gow1 when it very first came out..
So tried playing the ps3 and completely lost my vote so I straight turned away and picked up the "360"

Never looked back :P

Metabolic XBA
07-05-2012, 08:21 PM
Is the PS3 faster? I've never had any experience with it.

The dashboard can be slow though that's true, especially just trying to open the guide to go to the friends list. The white 'NXE' themed dash was the best in my experience.

It's a little faster yeah, it's a lot more minimalistic than the dashboard and less cluttered.

CuddlyREDRUM
07-06-2012, 06:27 AM
Playstation Plus is killing Live Gold right now, I vote with my wallet so lemme smack you with PS3.

H2O
07-06-2012, 07:43 AM
Playstation Plus is killing Live Gold right now,

In what way?

_________

I started my gaming with machines like the Amiga 500 & NES. I was very young then though so didn't properly get into gaming till the SNES.

Then i had a N64, & playstation. Skipped the gamecube as i was losing interest in Nintendo by that point. Next it was an Xbox with a PS2 as a secondary console then this gen i've only had a 360 and my trusty PC. O, and a Wii that saw almost no use before being given away. I'd only consider a PS3 now as a second console for their exclusives and there's little point in that as i'm already short on time to play the games i've got.


Ignoring 3rd party kit the current 360 controller is far more comfortable than the playstation one for me. I'd go so far as to say it's the best controller i've ever used.

Other than that the other big draw for me is the cross game party chat. I spend hours using that to talk to my friends so it must save me a fortune on phone bills!

The Sea Trout
07-06-2012, 08:14 AM
Its weird with me, I play my 360 more but I defo prefer the PS3. I think this is because more of my friends play 360 so naturally I game wiht them.

Anyone who has issues with PS3 controller should pick up the EA Sports Comfort pack, it really helped me a lot.

End of the day they are both great consoles and im glad I own both.

Broodjekipkorn
07-06-2012, 08:22 AM
I like my Xbox 360. I used to play PS1 and PS2 before this console, and when the PS3 came out, I chose the Xbox 360. I have to say, I'm happy with my choice. Since then, I always buy Xbox 360 (having my third at this moment).

I also like to have a PS3 though. I think they have some nice exclusives. But I didnt bought one because I think they're expensive. And besides that, the controller is SMALL. When you're used to your Xbox 360 controller, that thing is way to small..

CHIRUNO99
07-06-2012, 08:30 AM
In what way?
From my experience:
- Free games forever (1 year licences actually, although some games don't expire, also I hope you like HDD space)
- Exclusive Discounts (Actually sometimes the discounts are barely noticeable)
- A shiny plus icon, one for the XMB and even two for your Home avatar (except your friends probably don't use home, at the time now I'd say they're nuts, of course a few years ago it was literally barren with barely any decent content)
- Automatic Updates and Automatic Trophy Syncing (Make this a feature for everyone Sony, don't be jerks)
- Early beta access, Early access to demos and full games
- More free content like avatars and themes (Pot Luck)

To be honest PSN+ is only worth it if you play with the toys they give you before they expire and if you use your PS3 atleast once a month. It can become a waste just like XBL Gold if you don't use it.

NoctisXZ
07-06-2012, 08:51 AM
Everyone knows that the Wii is where it's at. I laugh at all you lowly dogs and your inferior consoles! .. seriously though, who cares which console is better! Do anyone of you really need the validation? Each has their drawbacks and perks...

I wanted to address something though. When I was reading the thread I came across someone saying something about the Xbox being easier to develop for.. while I can't say that's outright false I do recall reading up before on some of the ways Microsoft handles business.

Like when it comes to Arcade titles developers are all but forced to launch on the Xbox first.. I'm pretty sure I read something about that somewhere. If the mood strikes me I'll try to find the source.

Who knows though. Maybe it doesn't really have to do with how hard it is to develop on the PS3 but that Microsoft is strong arming developers onto making games for their console first or run the risk of being blocked.. something like that.

CHIRUNO99
07-06-2012, 08:56 AM
The Fairest Comparison
http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/rr69/saturn118/vi-MQzPZX.png

JeppeBoy
07-06-2012, 05:49 PM
I prefer Xbox 360 over PS3, but I still like PS3.
I haven't got a PS3 though, I want to get it for some exclusive games.
The controller for Xbox 360 is definitely better, it works perfect for people with large hands (like me).

Metabolic XBA
07-07-2012, 07:29 PM
I wanted to address something though. When I was reading the thread I came across someone saying something about the Xbox being easier to develop for.. while I can't say that's outright false I do recall reading up before on some of the ways Microsoft handles business.

Like when it comes to Arcade titles developers are all but forced to launch on the Xbox first.. I'm pretty sure I read something about that somewhere. If the mood strikes me I'll try to find the source.

It's not false, everything I said in that post was taken from articles I have read. When I say easier to develop for I mean coding and programming, what you said about the Arcade titles seems more like a distribution thing that a development one. Here is an article from way back in 2009

http://news.cnet.com/sony-ps3-is-hard-to-develop-for-on-purpose/

A direct quote from Kaz Hirai in that article

"We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that (developers) want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so then the question is, what do you do for the rest of the nine-and-a-half years?"
--Kaz Hirai, CEO, Sony Computer EntertainmentAnd two more recent articles

http://www.lazygamer.net/ps3/the-next-playstation-will-be-easier-to-develop-for/

http://www.lazygamer.net/xbox-360/kingdoms-of-amalur-was-significantly-easier-to-develop-on-the-xbox-360/

This is the article I mentioned about dev's saying the next gen xbox is already the easiest to develop for

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/01/the-next-generation-according-to-game-developers

I found one article about MS forcing arcade devs to use Windows 8 but it didn't mention if they are forcing people to release on their platform first.

http://panicgamer.com/News-detail/microsoft-forcing-developers-use-windows-8-pc-versions-xbla-titles/

KrazyBonesSales
07-07-2012, 09:08 PM
My Biggest issue with the PS3 is backwards compatibility, i still have tons of ps2 games, but a broken ps2, and i dont feel like buying another one

TyrannoSpank
07-07-2012, 09:17 PM
Im surprised at some of the things PS3 cant do o.o.

Still also surprised im an Xbox fan tho too. I grew up on PS lol. I still love it, but i wouldnt buy a PS3, or even next gens anymore now that i have been on Xbox and worked on gamescore and gotten use to it. Although i still call X, Square lol.

There was something Playstation did a long time ago that i really disliked em for, i cant remember tho.

NoctisXZ
07-08-2012, 12:41 AM
It's not false, everything I said in that post was taken from articles I have read. When I say easier to develop for I mean coding and programming, what you said about the Arcade titles seems more like a distribution thing that a development one. Here is an article from way back in 2009

http://news.cnet.com/sony-ps3-is-hard-to-develop-for-on-purpose/

A direct quote from Kaz Hirai in that article

And two more recent articles

http://www.lazygamer.net/ps3/the-next-playstation-will-be-easier-to-develop-for/

http://www.lazygamer.net/xbox-360/kingdoms-of-amalur-was-significantly-easier-to-develop-on-the-xbox-360/

This is the article I mentioned about dev's saying the next gen xbox is already the easiest to develop for

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/01/the-next-generation-according-to-game-developers

I found one article about MS forcing arcade devs to use Windows 8 but it didn't mention if they are forcing people to release on their platform first.

http://panicgamer.com/News-detail/microsoft-forcing-developers-use-windows-8-pc-versions-xbla-titles/
Thanks for the extra information. It's greatly appreciated.. I kine or figured it was the truth though. The PS3 is kind of a mess in some aspects...

I wish I could find my source. I remember reading something about it before but I can't remember where.. oh well.

Metabolic XBA
07-08-2012, 12:46 AM
Thanks for the extra information. It's greatly appreciated.. I kine or figured it was the truth though. The PS3 is kind of a mess in some aspects...

I wish I could find my source. I remember reading something about it before but I can't remember where.. oh well.

No worries, probably should have done that the first time around but I was at work when I posted before and they use like a 4 year old version of IE that can't run half the websites around these days.

the real a 0bsolete
07-08-2012, 01:52 AM
first off ps2 beat the original xbox by a mile. the first xbox was shit.

but the 360 takes the cake this gen :)

XxBeastlyxX
07-15-2012, 11:20 PM
Hey I got my 360 about 2 months ago. Its a solid console. I still prefer my ps3 though... Its sad that people say the controller is that bad, that they dont play it because the ps3 has so much to offer in their variety of games. I personally bought a "power a" controller, which was shaped as a 360 controller. Ya the 360 has a better online experience, but they lack in exclusives. PS3 won this gen, but the 360 is still fun. If you don't have a ps3, you are missing out big time.

xw F4T4L1TY wx
07-15-2012, 11:26 PM
They both have their pros and cons. PS3 is free, but Xbox has more gamers and a more secure network. If you're worried about payin $50/yr for countless hours of entertainment, go with PS3... But Xbox dominates!

XxBeastlyxX
07-15-2012, 11:45 PM
the xbox does not dominate. The ps3 is slightly better because of the games. And the ps3 got hacked once. They both make mistakes. Like how half of the launch 360's broke lol. Thats why they sold so many, people had to buy 2 or 3 of them.

tehapoc
07-15-2012, 11:57 PM
the xbox does not dominate. The ps3 is slightly better because of the games. And the ps3 got hacked once. They both make mistakes. Like how half of the launch 360's broke lol. Thats why they sold so many, people had to buy 2 or 3 of them.

Launch PS3s had plenty of flaws as well. Especially with overheating. Some versions didn't even have backwards compatibility.

XxBeastlyxX
07-16-2012, 12:01 AM
ya I know I was just trying to prove my point that both consoles have flaws. Most people on this forum just ignore the 360's flaws and make the ps3 look bad.

Gackt
07-16-2012, 12:04 AM
the xbox does not dominate. The ps3 is slightly better because of the games. And the ps3 got hacked once. They both make mistakes. Like how half of the launch 360's broke lol. Thats why they sold so many, people had to buy 2 or 3 of them.

Sony has been hacked 10 times. Ill take an easy to replace hardware issue over piss poor network security any day.

ya I know I was just trying to prove my point that both consoles have flaws. Most people on this forum just ignore the 360's flaws and make the ps3 look bad.

It's an XBOX forum...what exactly did you expect? Playstation has their share of fanboys too.

XxBeastlyxX
07-16-2012, 12:27 AM
10 times? It was only hacked badly once. And I know this is a xbox forum, doesn't mean everyone were going to be idiots on here.

DEG23
07-16-2012, 12:44 AM
10 times? It was only hacked badly once. And I know this is a xbox forum, doesn't mean everyone were going to be idiots on here.

I know you are new here but you must understand that coming to an Xbox site and complaining it is full of xbox fanboys is likely to cause others to attack you. Most people on this site are will admit that the PS3 does have its strengths but even they won't take you serious if you resort to calling them fanboys or idiots.

Gackt
07-16-2012, 12:50 AM
10 times? It was only hacked badly once. And I know this is a xbox forum, doesn't mean everyone were going to be idiots on here.

http://oznews.tv/tech/2011/05/26/so-how-many-times-has-sony-been-hacked-now-try-ten/