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Unamortized
10-01-2012, 04:16 AM
Anyone planning on watching the debates through Xbox live for the Avatar item?

You have to admit it is an interesting way to get people involved in politics.

ReverendSID
10-01-2012, 04:28 AM
I'd answer, except I have no clue what you're talking about. Link please?

EDIT: Nevermind, found it. Answer, probably not.

Ty-Rex
10-01-2012, 05:11 AM
Since the OP didn't post anything about this, here's a pic of the armor and a brief summary.

http://i.imgur.com/ipXyd.png

"Xbox Live Rewards members who watch at least three of the four upcoming debates on their Xbox 360s will receive for free the Halo 4 Warrior Avatar Armor for their Xbox Live Avatar to wear. Gamers do not even have to watch the whole debate just 30 minutes or more."Source and full article here. (http://www.gamenguide.com/articles/3555/20120930/presidential-election-2012-watch-debates-xbox-live-halo-4-obama-romney-results.htm)

This is easily the strangest Halo tie-in yet.

Next logical step is unique in-game armor depending on whether you vote for Obama or Romney in November.

CHIRUNO99
10-01-2012, 07:41 AM
I don't agree with offering an incentive to try and get people into Politics, especially children since they can't vote until they're adults. It's easier to read up on non-biased sources about your available candidates to get an idea about who you will be voting for.

Also I'm British so I doubt I can take part anyway and it won't even matter to me if I do. I also don't really like the armour. It's mostly since it's kind of gold, and I'm not a fan of gold.

Kaiyo
10-01-2012, 07:50 AM
Oh yeah strangest way of obtaining Halo armor.

Veedrock
10-01-2012, 07:57 AM
I'm pretty sure this is less "get people involved in politics" and more "use Xbox for more than gaming." Microsoft is still experimenting with live streaming on Xbox, this is likely an attempt to further test or legitimize it. You guys don't have to be so paranoid of everything.

iBuzz7S
10-01-2012, 08:14 AM
Beggars can't be choosers.

:)

I'm more than happy to sign in with my US account and leave it on for 30 minutes while I play Borderlands on the PC, or maybe even switch over to 'video 2/component' on my TV and see what's been happening on PSN lately.

xydz
10-01-2012, 12:47 PM
Beggars can't be choosers.

:)

I'm more than happy to sign in with my US account and leave it on for 30 minutes while I play Borderlands on the PC, or maybe even switch over to 'video 2/component' on my TV and see what's been happening on PSN lately.

wait.. i need a US account?
Damn Being australian!

iBuzz7S
10-01-2012, 12:57 PM
wait.. i need a US account?
Damn Being australian!
Well I didn't see the promo with my AU or UK accounts, but it was 'right there' on the dashboard when I signed into US account.

Just make a new profile. :p

RBmaster9345
10-01-2012, 01:43 PM
Its only an avatar item so its not nearly worth it. My current Red Helmet from the Reach collection is working just fine atm.

The Elite Elite
10-01-2012, 01:59 PM
I wasn't going to waste time watching those two say the same crap they always do before, and this isn't going to change my mind.

Warfighter1000
10-01-2012, 03:47 PM
I'm extremely into politics so yes, I will watch all of them.

Vectorman953
10-01-2012, 04:23 PM
I probably won't be able to watch the debates given my work schedule, but I don't think it matters much anyway.
I'm normally a collectibles-fiend, but I've never really cared about Avatar Items at all (unless they're avatar-awards, which seem like sub-achievements). It's like, once I've found something I want my avatar to wear, why bother trying to expand a closet I'll never use?

Also, this promotion seems strange to me. The exact type of people that wouldn't be watching the debates UNLESS they got a xbox360 avatar armor out of it are exactly the type of people that I don't feel comfortable with voting. Not that everyone isn't entitled to their own opinion - but if you are swayed by a piece of digital content...

BloodGodAlucard
10-01-2012, 04:39 PM
I hate this promotion even more than the bullshit Facebook and Twitter ones for other games. I couldn't care less about politics. And I hear so much of this crap when I visit my parents (my dad watches this junk all day) that I really truly hate it. The only thing worse than listening to the news is when he watches Nascar. I can physically feel my IQ dropping while being in the same room. It wouldn't be so bad if he didn't watch all of the biased crap like Fox News, etc. So as cool as the armor looks, I will be passing on this. I did consider pulling it up on my console and then changing the source to watch TV or browse YouTube on my computer until it's over. But I don't want to give them any views on this stuff. And I especially don't want to encourage them to put this junk on the console in the future.

Microsoft have been doing weird advertising lately on the dashboard. I've been seeing ads for games that I can't play since they're PC exclusive. Diablo 3 and World of Warcraft come to mind instantly. Now they're pushing the debates/election.

Ty-Rex
10-01-2012, 06:36 PM
Also, this promotion seems strange to me. The exact type of people that wouldn't be watching the debates UNLESS they got a xbox360 avatar armor out of it are exactly the type of people that I don't feel comfortable with voting. Not that everyone isn't entitled to their own opinion - but if you are swayed by a piece of digital content...
It's like you reached into my head and posted exactly what I was thinking.

Like you said, voting is supposed to be a privilege, not something that should need to be incentivized.

It's weird that so many people, who live in the US, don't care about the debates too. Even if you don't care much about politics, the debates themselves tend to be pretty entertaining.

ZingZitang
10-01-2012, 06:37 PM
It's easier to read up on non-biased sources about your available candidates to get an idea about who you will be voting for.


In America, there are no Non-Biased Sources.

Even Microsoft/Xbox is extremely liberal and Pro-Obama. Sometimes it actually makes me want to turn my Xbox off.

Probably not the Reaction they're hoping for.

LickableLemons7
10-01-2012, 07:17 PM
This promotion has so many things wrong with it. I don't want to watch a single second of the debates on my Xbox. I like to use my Xbox for entertainment purposes, not for bashing my head in with more political strife. I get more than enough of it when I walk around my neighborhood. People in my area are taking things too seriously. It is a pretty serious subject, but I hate hearing "WE GOTTA GET THAT MONKEY OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE RIGHT FUCKING NOW!" or "ROMNEY DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK HE'S SAYING!" Nobody is backing themselves up after saying such trash, the people saying those things are trying to hype up some of the 18 year olds who are deciding who to vote for.
I can't wait for November 6th so I can just hole myself in my house and play Halo 4 with some old friends. I won't be getting this avatar item.

Also, I wonder how long it'll take until it'll be available for purchase on the avatar marketplace for 400msp. 1 month? 2?

DarkReign2021
10-01-2012, 07:27 PM
Since the OP didn't post anything about this, here's a pic of the armor and a brief summary.

http://i.imgur.com/ipXyd.png

Source and full article here. (http://www.gamenguide.com/articles/3555/20120930/presidential-election-2012-watch-debates-xbox-live-halo-4-obama-romney-results.htm)

This is easily the strangest Halo tie-in yet.

Next logical step is unique in-game armor depending on whether you vote for Obama or Romney in November.

lol. That's one way to ensure Obama never gets back into office. Offer people that vote Romney an awesome set of armor and people that vote Obama get something crappy or nothing at all. Can only imagine what kind of pull it might have toward putting an Independent in office when it comes right down to it.

Veedrock
10-01-2012, 07:30 PM
lol. That's one way to ensure Obama never gets back into office. Offer people that vote Romney an awesome set of armor and people that vote Obama get something crappy or nothing at all. Can only imagine what kind of pull it might have toward putting an Independent in office when it comes right down to it.

Take a step back. There's no way to place a legitimate vote through your Xbox, and there's no chance in hell there ever will be; even if there was, offering incentives (bribing) for votes is illegal. Basically it would never happen, so there's no reason to imagine it.

The very most they can do is a poll, but because it's completely irrelevant to anything it doesn't matter which you choose, may as well pick the one with the better incentive.

ZingZitang
10-01-2012, 07:43 PM
lol. That's one way to ensure Obama never gets back into office. Offer people that vote Romney an awesome set of armor and people that vote Obama get something crappy or nothing at all.Except for the Fact that Microsoft is completely Pro-Obama. Next time you turn your Gamebox on, Pay attention to how Biased all the Ads and images and "Rock the Vote" is towards Obama.
even if there was, offering incentives (bribing) for votes is illegal. Except Obama has been bribing people with free phones and other incentives since his first campaign run. Not to mention his Creation of ACORN and all that.

YorkusRex
10-01-2012, 08:41 PM
I need to see all the candidates' gamerscores and game histories before I can make an informed decision on election day.

Also: free(ish) avatar swag! I'll go for it.

The Elite Elite
10-01-2012, 09:05 PM
In America, there are no Non-Biased Sources.

Indeed.


Even Microsoft/Xbox is extremely liberal and Pro-Obama. Sometimes it actually makes me want to turn my Xbox off.

Probably not the Reaction they're hoping for.

Agreed. I turn on my Xbox to get away from things like politics. I wish Microsoft would stop shoving it in my face every time I sign into Live now. And since we're on this subject, can we please stop with these stupid get-out-the-vote campaigns? No, it is not your duty as a citizen to vote. It's your duty to inform yourself on the issues and people you are voting on if you are going to vote. We want informed voters, not ignorant voters who have been told that it doesn't matter how they vote, they just need to vote. :mad:

N7 Shadow
10-01-2012, 09:32 PM
I'll stick with my Master Chief Avatar Armor. :cool: I might have done it if it was in-game armor (Just to have.).

ReverendSID
10-02-2012, 01:20 AM
The only reason I'd even think about doing it is because it's Gold Warrior armor, and the Gamestop pre-order vote is heavily swayed toward the Arctic BR skin instead of the Green Warrior Armor. For those with no clue what I'm talking about, a LINK (http://www.halo4vote.com/)

And yes, I'm perfectly aware of how sad a reason that is to consider this. The fact is I highly doubt I could sit through even half an hour of one of those debates. It's more likely I'd start it up, turn my TV off, and go do something else for 3 hours and forget all about it. And then I'd forget about it completely the other 3 days. The "debates" are nothing but canned answers, things they've already said, and sections of their stump speeches and are in no way entertaining or informative.

Wasulu
10-02-2012, 01:51 AM
that is exactly the same thing most people will be doing i remember back when the live lab came out, the one that tested your pings and you would get those avatar props. well i did that left it on and when about doing something else. i fing politics very boring.

xXmyxxmastaXx
10-02-2012, 03:46 AM
In America, there are no Non-Biased Sources.

Even Microsoft/Xbox is extremely liberal and Pro-Obama. Sometimes it actually makes me want to turn my Xbox off.

Probably not the Reaction they're hoping for.

Sony is Conservative and Pro-Willard. you could always get a PS3 i hear they are 1% friendly, but its whites only, and you cant be gay

Ty-Rex
10-02-2012, 06:25 AM
Take a step back. There's no way to place a legitimate vote through your Xbox, and there's no chance in hell there ever will be; even if there was, offering incentives (bribing) for votes is illegal. Basically it would never happen, so there's no reason to imagine it.

The very most they can do is a poll, but because it's completely irrelevant to anything it doesn't matter which you choose, may as well pick the one with the better incentive.
It's... it's almost like he was making joke!

Also, I'm really liking hearing everyone's shitty political opinion in this thread on a video game forum. Please, continue to share, we all really care a lot.

That was sarcasm. Please talk about video games.

theNomad
10-02-2012, 07:14 AM
I did noticed ms let borderlands 2 have gun avatar items (they're listed as toy guns, but they're still guns) wonder if they'll allow halo fans to get full avatar weapons, instead of just grav hammers and energy swords.

CyberPunch83
10-02-2012, 02:25 PM
How much is Microsoft going to charge non-US gamers for the same armor? Halo has no reason to be tied to a US election, or any election for that matter. If they can't make it available to everyone at once, they shouldn't bother.

Emfulz
10-02-2012, 07:15 PM
I'll be tuning in. I seen this on Joystiq and am psyched to get a Halo Avatar for free.

xXmyxxmastaXx
10-02-2012, 07:20 PM
Master Commander in Chief 2012

Scheebs221
10-02-2012, 08:30 PM
Wow this is the first I'm seeing of this and its pretty dumb...I will not be watching

Kaiyo
10-04-2012, 02:28 AM
I'll still get my avatar armor even if i leave my tv and xbox 360 on the bunch of debates even if they're laggy.

CovertDog
10-04-2012, 09:20 PM
I tried to find away to allow this discussion to continue and have it just involve the avatar outfit, but next to racism, politics is the most discriminatory issue in the world. If your a liberal your a bleeding heart and if your covseritive your a redneck. Completely untrue generlizations that divided and what keeps anything from being done to improve the lifes of the citizens of any nation.

See? I can't even close the thread without given an opinion on it. :p Si that's why political conversations are not allowed on the site.