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PerpetualHeaven
01-29-2008, 01:42 AM
An Ars Technica (http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2008/01/27/mole-80gb-ps3-dead-120-160gb-with-dual-shock-3-incoming) "mole" reports that the 80GB PS3 is indeed out (http://www.joystiq.com/2008/01/24/best-buy-closing-out-80gb-ps3/) and will be replaced by a 120- or 160GB PS3 with a DualShock 3 controller at the same price point ($499). Beyond the extra gigglebytes and the rumbling controller (http://www.joystiq.com/tag/dualshock3/), the "mole" had nothing else to add; questions regarding backwards compatibility, USB ports and other such incidentals will have to wait for another day.

CVG (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=180653) spoke with Sony Europe which dismissed the story as "rumour and speculation." Sony America gave us a similar response, minus the British "u." A Sony America spokesperson said, "As you know, we don't comment on rumor or speculation." For those keeping track, the emergence of a new PS3 model would be the fifth, sixth, fourth *mumble* SKU ... actually, we've lost count.

Source: http://www.joystiq.com/2008/01/28/rumor-120-160-gb-ps3-with-rumble-in-the-pipe/

There you go. The 80GB is probably going to be replaced by one of these. It'll just be a bigger HDD is all. So this probably does mean they're prepping for that "video marketplace" DFILL was talking about.

Sanction
01-29-2008, 02:24 AM
Sony is so retarded. It's very funny to watch though. Every year they come out with 2 new skus.

It's pathetic, really.

jaferris
01-29-2008, 03:07 AM
seems cool the dual shock 3 is pretty neet love the vibration for resistance and ut3
strange how they releasing models with bigger hdd space as the owner can replace the one allready in there system
i dont dare do it 2 mine yet lol

Jdm
01-29-2008, 08:49 AM
Here's a piece of my own news as well.

80GB PS3 Not Dying, But Being Reborn Bigger? (http://kotaku.com/349559/80gb-ps3-not-dying-but-being-reborn-bigger)

http://kotaku.com/assets/resources/2008/01/PSwide.jpg

Ars Technica's Opposable Thumbs has a Sony mole who has filled them in on some potentially juicy gossip. According to the insider, Sony will not be dropping their 80GB PS3 (http://kotaku.com/index.php?refId=348241) to abandon a two-model retail approach, but instead upgrading said higher tier model to better differentiate the products. In this scenario, the 80GB PS3 will see a bump to either 120GB or 160GB and include a Dual-Shock 3 controller—but still run $499.

Feel free to comb over the source text with a fine-toothed comb:Sony is, in fact, phasing out the 80GB PS3. Sony is going to stay with the two-SKU approach though, and the prices look to stay the same....The Spiderman 3 pack-in will disappear as well once the 80GB unit is gone. In order to maintain a similar value proposition to the 80GB/Spiderman 3 bundle, I expect to see a storage increase to 120 or 160GB at the same price point, plus the new Dual-Shock 3 controller...Hopefully this doesn't imply that Sony is evolving to a strategy without movie/game bundles with their consoles (which we'd doubt) . Because when Sony was generous enough to allow customers to install their own hard drives, it would seem like a waste to only use hard drives to differentiate their PS3 products (I mean, what's one rumble controller, really?).

And for those who don't know, Ars publications are highly respected in the technology industry. So that's why you'll see the internet taking this one pretty seriously.

http://kotaku.com/349559/80gb-ps3-not-dying-but-being-reborn-bigger

W. Samuel Jones III
01-29-2008, 03:09 PM
It will be interesting to see what the price will be on the $120 model.

I have a 60GB and unless you plan to download a ton of videos and music there doesn't seem a need to upgrade to 120GB.

CAMOUFLAGEiPOD
01-29-2008, 03:29 PM
It will be interesting to see what the price will be on the $120 model.

I have a 60GB and unless you plan to download a ton of videos and music there doesn't seem a need to upgrade to 120GB.


Same here W. Samuel, I have the 60gb and I don't see the need to upgrade at all, they should of left this SKU alone, if you have several PS or PS2 games it's the best one to get.

Bax x360a
01-29-2008, 09:52 PM
I've got a 40gb and can't see myself using that, let alone a 120gb. I like to keep the hardrive organised by deleting demos after I played them, so I don't see the need of a bigger hardrive...

PerpetualHeaven
01-30-2008, 04:42 AM
I'm going to upgrade to a 80GB because the 40GB only has 2 USBs. This means that Rock Band = no playable without USB hub. So I'm just going with the 80GB. Hopefully they'll add more features to the 120-160GB then just larger space.

twelve
01-30-2008, 04:23 PM
Sony is so retarded. It's very funny to watch though. Every year they come out with 2 new skus.

It's pathetic, really.
60GB, 20GB, 80GB, 40GB, 120/160GB. 5 SKUs

Premium, Core, Elite, Pro, Arcade. 5 SKUs.

What's pathetic about that?

W. Samuel Jones III
01-30-2008, 05:35 PM
60GB, 20GB, 80GB, 40GB, 120/160GB. 5 SKUs

Premium, Core, Elite, Pro, Arcade. 5 SKUs.

What's pathetic about that?

Thats a good point, but you have to expect some 360 fanboyism on a 360 achievement site.:woop:

SegaSaturnSNK
01-30-2008, 05:35 PM
60GB, 20GB, 80GB, 40GB, 120/160GB. 5 SKUs

Premium, Core, Elite, Pro, Arcade. 5 SKUs.

What's pathetic about that?

I was going to say that haha. Just an angry 360 fanboy I'm guessing? Sony is as worst as Microsoft so people, please don't jump to conclusions.

Bax x360a
01-30-2008, 07:10 PM
I'm going to upgrade to a 80GB because the 40GB only has 2 USBs. This means that Rock Band = no playable without USB hub. So I'm just going with the 80GB. Hopefully they'll add more features to the 120-160GB then just larger space.
Surely it would be easier to just get it for the 360, plus you'll get achievements aswell? Unless you've already got the 360 version. But if thats the case, surely its pointless having two copies of an expensive game! To conclude, get the 360 version :p

PerpetualHeaven
01-30-2008, 07:32 PM
Surely it would be easier to just get it for the 360, plus you'll get achievements aswell? Unless you've already got the 360 version. But if thats the case, surely its pointless having two copies of an expensive game! To conclude, get the 360 version :p

No, the wireless guitar was one of the biggest reasons I got it for the PS3. Plus, I fear that my 360 might break down at any point since I don't have one of the newer falcon chip 360s with new heat sink + thermal compound. I'm just actually going to buy a USB hub. I don't mind the achievements anymore. I've broken away from that grip they had on me.

Jdm
01-31-2008, 03:39 AM
SCEE Scuttles PlayStation 3 120GB That No One's Announced Yet (http://kotaku.com/350285/scee-scuttles-playstation-3-120gb-that-no-ones-announced-yet)

http://kotaku.com/assets/resources/2008/01/ps3_120gb_scee.jpg

With the 80GB model of the PlayStation 3 looking less and less likely to continue, following Best Buy's plans to drop the configuration (http://kotaku.com/348819/best-buy-says-playstation-3-80gb-is-on-its-way-out-%5Bupdate%5D) and a telling "no comment" from Sony Computer Entertainment America, what will fans of large gigabyte counts do? Turn to the rumored 120GB model (http://kotaku.com/348819/best-buy-says-playstation-3-80gb-is-on-its-way-out-%5Bupdate%5D) of the PS3, hinted at by retail employees to us and Ars Technica, we suppose. The new model, says Ars, will come with a DualShock 3 packed in and feature plenty of porn storage.

But who's not getting it, according to Sony Computer Entertainment Europe? The UK! SCEE tells GamesIndustry.biz that it does "not currently have any plans to release a 120GB PlayStation 3 in the UK", which is PR speak for "Please wait for us to finish approving our press release on the matter."

http://kotaku.com/350285/scee-scuttles-playstation-3-120gb-that-no-ones-announced-yet

twelve
01-31-2008, 09:09 PM
No, the wireless guitar was one of the biggest reasons I got it for the PS3. Plus, I fear that my 360 might break down at any point since I don't have one of the newer falcon chip 360s with new heat sink + thermal compound. I'm just actually going to buy a USB hub. I don't mind the achievements anymore. I've broken away from that grip they had on me.
Me too, which is why I'm Burning out around Paradise City on PS3. That was harder than quitting smoking.

I still like the achievements but don't care so much about the Gamerscore, most PS3 games have things to "achieve", such as the awards in Burnout Paradise (which are exactly the same as the 360 Achievements).

I still love my 360 too but I prefer my PS3. Which makes it odd that I visit here as much as I do. I prefer PS3 and no longer care about gamerscore, it's very odd that I continue to come here as much as I do.

Bax x360a
01-31-2008, 10:21 PM
I've lost caring abut achievements aswell since playing Ratchet and Clank, Its brought me back to playing games just for fun. Oh and JDM, does the PS3 version of Rockband have a wireless guitar and the 360 version not then? I didn't know...

CAMOUFLAGEiPOD
02-01-2008, 01:01 AM
I've lost caring abut achievements aswell since playing Ratchet and Clank, Its brought me back to playing games just for fun. Oh and JDM, does the PS3 version of Rockband have a wireless guitar and the 360 version not then? I didn't know...

Oh Hell Yea, the PS3 guitar is wireless Bax.:rock

Jdm
02-01-2008, 01:07 AM
Oh Hell Yea, the PS3 guitar is wireless Bax.:rock

Sad for us 360 owners.:(

twelve
02-01-2008, 02:56 AM
Sad for us 360 owners.:(
Does the 360 version of Rockband not work with the wireless Les Paul from GH3?

If it doesn't then I wont bother waiting for the UK release and I'll import the whole thing for PS3. I was only waiting in the hope I could buy a stand alone version for 360 and use the Les Paul.

BlaZiN cdn
02-01-2008, 05:57 AM
I think it's pretty stupid of sony to come out with a new PS3 every 6 months, they should have just stuck with the 20GB and 60GB models, and just sell bigger hard drives.

PerpetualHeaven
02-01-2008, 07:26 AM
Does the 360 version of Rockband not work with the wireless Les Paul from GH3?

If it doesn't then I wont bother waiting for the UK release and I'll import the whole thing for PS3. I was only waiting in the hope I could buy a stand alone version for 360 and use the Les Paul.

Twelve, once you've used the Fender guitar, you'll never ever say I would want the Les Paul. I'm hoping you haven't used it because if you're saying this after playing with it, then you're psychotic! ;):eek:

Also in terms of achievements, most PS3 games have unlockables anyways. Everyday shooter I've been playing quite a bit since it has so many things to unlock. I'm sure once the trophies come out, I'll just have to buy based on preference. Right now, there aren't any titles in particular I'm buying that are multi-platform (excluding GTAIV).

Bax x360a
02-01-2008, 11:00 AM
Twelve, once you've used the Fender guitar, you'll never ever say I would want the Les Paul. I'm hoping you haven't used it because if you're saying this after playing with it, then you're psychotic! ;):eek:

Also in terms of achievements, most PS3 games have unlockables anyways. Everyday shooter I've been playing quite a bit since it has so many things to unlock. I'm sure once the trophies come out, I'll just have to buy based on preference. Right now, there aren't any titles in particular I'm buying that are multi-platform (excluding GTAIV).
Interesting to see what this Everyday Shooter and Flow games are about. I really want to test them out before buying seeing you say their good, but most PSN games don't have demos; lame!! Thats one big advantage the 360 has over the PS3.

PerpetualHeaven
02-01-2008, 02:52 PM
Interesting to see what this Everyday Shooter and Flow games are about. I really want to test them out before buying seeing you say their good, but most PSN games don't have demos; lame!! Thats one big advantage the 360 has over the PS3.

Look it up on IGN and watch the gameplay video. Basically, Everyday shooter is like a cel-shaded geometry wars concept (little dot and you shoot with the right stick at other monsters). The difficulty is not there, but the game is extremely artistic and the music/sound is FANTASTIC. That's the entire purpose of the game. It revolves around guitar sounds first of all. As you kill other things, they make little guitar sounds that go perfectly with the music. You cause a chain combo and it makes a different sound. It has an excellent chain system that makes the game rhythmically addicting.

It's not the kind of game where I can sit for hours and hours playing it, but it's something that I've always came back to and played for 30 minutes or so and had a blast.

twelve
02-01-2008, 09:33 PM
Twelve, once you've used the Fender guitar, you'll never ever say I would want the Les Paul. I'm hoping you haven't used it because if you're saying this after playing with it, then you're psychotic! ;):eek:
Rock band hasn't even got a date here so I've never even seen a rock band fender. I love the Les Paul tho so I was gonna just use that if it works. I'm not bothered about drums or vocals.

PerpetualHeaven
02-02-2008, 03:38 AM
Rock band hasn't even got a date here so I've never even seen a rock band fender. I love the Les Paul tho so I was gonna just use that if it works. I'm not bothered about drums or vocals.

Soak it all in...

http://gameinvasion.comcast.net/assets/04/01/05/01/04/asset-43066.jpg

antnie
02-02-2008, 03:42 AM
They have too many system types, finally they got rumble, and who honestly needs 120-160 Gb hard drive. That is bigger than my computers hard drive. My 20 gb 360 still has 10 GB and i have videos and other things.

twelve
02-02-2008, 03:45 AM
Soak it all in...

http://gameinvasion.comcast.net/assets/04/01/05/01/04/asset-43066.jpg
Yeah I know it looks good. But I haven't really heard a whole lot of good about it.

Sanction
02-02-2008, 03:53 AM
60GB, 20GB, 80GB, 40GB, 120/160GB. 5 SKUs

Premium, Core, Elite, Pro, Arcade. 5 SKUs.

What's pathetic about that?

Premium = Pro

Core = Arcade

There is no difference between those 2 systems.

Why can't Sony just come out with an add-on HDD like MS did? Buy one console and just upgrade the HDD as you please...

PerpetualHeaven
02-02-2008, 03:54 AM
They have too many system types, finally they got rumble, and who honestly needs 120-160 Gb hard drive. That is bigger than my computers hard drive. My 20 gb 360 still has 10 GB and i have videos and other things.

Man... if you have Red Kawa file server, you wouldn't say that. I've been importing so many movies onto my PS3. I can import HD movies also and that's takes up a lot of space. Plus, the more space you have the less you have to delete. I constantly delete on my 360 and I have yet to delete anything on my PS3.

Yeah I know it looks good. But I haven't really heard a whole lot of good about it.

I think the largest issue for everyone is the strum. The strum does not click whatsoever. You push it down and it doesn't feel like it registered anything. I personally like it, but it provokes people to strum up and down as opposed to down only.

DFILL450
02-02-2008, 05:24 AM
Man... if you have Red Kawa file server, you wouldn't say that. I've been importing so many movies onto my PS3. I can import HD movies also and that's takes up a lot of space. Plus, the more space you have the less you have to delete. I constantly delete on my 360 and I have yet to delete anything on my PS3.

Whats this Red Kawa file server you speak of?

I'm probably gonna buy another PS3 once this comes out. For the Dualshock 3, maybe a white one, larger hard drive, and so I can get a warranty on it.

twelve
02-02-2008, 06:11 AM
Premium = Pro

Core = Arcade

There is no difference between those 2 systems.

Why can't Sony just come out with an add-on HDD like MS did? Buy one console and just upgrade the HDD as you please...
If you're going to go the Pro = Premium route then:

60GB = 80GB = 120GB/160GB
20GB = 40GB

Premium = Pro
Core = Arcade
Elite

Therefore Sony has 2 SKUs, MS has 3.

Also Sony have no reason to offer an overpriced HDD add-on because you can upgrade the HDD yourself. The reason they keep making these SKUs is to try and find the sweet spot that makes people buy them outside of Europe (because in case you havent noticed we buy anything Sony shove our way).

PerpetualHeaven
02-02-2008, 01:04 PM
Whats this Red Kawa file server you speak of?

I'm probably gonna buy another PS3 once this comes out. For the Dualshock 3, maybe a white one, larger hard drive, and so I can get a warranty on it.

Go to http://www.redkawa.com and scroll to the bottom. You'll see something called the Red Kawa File Server. Basically, you set up a directory that your PS3 will be able to access. You go on your PS3, type in your IP Address and an additional code into the URL. Once that has been done, you'll have access to your computers files but you'll only be able to download from the directory you gave the PS3 access too. The downloads from the PC to the PS3 generally take around 1-2 minutes for 700MB-1GB files. It's the initial download that's the longest (when you download the movie to your PC).

If you're going to go the Pro = Premium route then:

60GB = 80GB = 120GB/160GB
20GB = 40GB

Premium = Pro
Core = Arcade
Elite

Therefore Sony has 2 SKUs, MS has 3.

Also Sony have no reason to offer an overpriced HDD add-on because you can upgrade the HDD yourself. The reason they keep making these SKUs is to try and find the sweet spot that makes people buy them outside of Europe (because in case you havent noticed we buy anything Sony shove our way).

Don't forget the Halo console. They were selling those for the longest time.

twelve
02-02-2008, 09:46 PM
Don't forget the Halo console. They were selling those for the longest time.
How very true I forgot all about that one.

Sanction
02-03-2008, 02:50 AM
If you're going to go the Pro = Premium route then:

60GB = 80GB = 120GB/160GB
20GB = 40GB

Premium = Pro
Core = Arcade
Elite

Therefore Sony has 2 SKUs, MS has 3.

Also Sony have no reason to offer an overpriced HDD add-on because you can upgrade the HDD yourself. The reason they keep making these SKUs is to try and find the sweet spot that makes people buy them outside of Europe (because in case you havent noticed we buy anything Sony shove our way).

What does that mean, exactly? That you buy shitty hardware?

And the 40GB doesn't have back compatibility, so you can't say it's equal to one that DOES. So they each have 3 skus, but Sony still fails because they came out with 6 skus in less than 2 years. MS came out with 5 in less than 3 years. Also, each PS3 doesn't come with the same features, unlike the 360 where you can upgrade as you please. NO, the 20GB PS3 doesn't have WiFi or flash card readers, yet the 40GB does have WiFi, but no flash readers. And the 20GB and 60GB aren't even being manufactured anymore, unlike ALL the 360's.

PerpetualHeaven
02-03-2008, 07:54 AM
What does that mean, exactly? That you buy shitty hardware?

And the 40GB doesn't have back compatibility, so you can't say it's equal to one that DOES. So they each have 3 skus, but Sony still fails because they came out with 6 skus in less than 2 years. MS came out with 5 in less than 3 years. Also, each PS3 doesn't come with the same features, unlike the 360 where you can upgrade as you please. NO, the 20GB PS3 doesn't have WiFi or flash card readers, yet the 40GB does have WiFi, but no flash readers. And the 20GB and 60GB aren't even being manufactured anymore, unlike ALL the 360's.

The 40GB does have BC but it's strictly PS1. The PS2 BC on the 80GB is software emulated but unfortunately that's shit. I can't speak highly of the 360s BC. It's fairly crap itself. The 60GB boasted incredible BC capabilities. They removed the PS2 hardware though for cost reasons they said.

You know the 20GB isn't being made anymore, so why would you refer to it? There's a reason why they stopped production on the 20GB. It lacked a lot of features. When you go from the 40 to the 60, you get more ports, larger harddrive, and a mediocre PS2 BC. Both come equip with PS1 BC, WiFi, and HDMI out of the box. Did this other company start doing that.. Microsoft I think it was?

They still have the same amount which is 2. Microsoft on the other hand has 4 XBOX 360s being sold at the moment: Arcade, Premium, Halo, and Elite. When someone goes to buy a 360, they can choose from 4. PS3 folks choose from 2. And so what if they come out with more SKUs? They have shown a nice progressive improvement with a downscale of $100.00 in price. I can't see a problem with that at all. Only problem I may see is that the 60GB BC was phenomenal and the 80GBs is shit. But I didn't buy a PS3 to play PS2 games. I own a PS2 which by the way is the same one I've had since 2003 (linked to the apparent shitty "sony" products).

Also, Sony shitty products? The PS3 failure rate is deadly low. The 360s at one point was 33%. There should have been total recalls of all 360s instead they lied and claimed 8 or so percent and didn't lose billions. I think your fanboyism has skewed your information. I would like to know anyone who is on their 4th PS3 because frankly, I don't know of any. But I know plenty of people with 4+ 360s. And when I say plenty, I don't mean a handful.. I mean a lot.

Refer to this thread:
http://www.xbox360achievements.org/forum/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=483

Only 30% of the people have not had a broken 360. By the way, poor Covert bought a brand new 360 console and had RROD out of the box. That's quality ;) It's also quality when we had to make a graveyard thread.

By the way, Sony also produces some of the best televisions in the world. Their current televisions are widely considered some of the best. They don't produce shitty hardware at all. Their MP3 players are also really good. They have an incredible track record in the electronic world. I don't even know how you could say Sony products are shitty. Do you just hate Sony for the sake of hating them and just feed off your knowledge on Sony or lack thereof?

Do you just come down here to bash the PS3? If anything, you're showing your blatant fanboyism and ignorance. Unfortunately, I just see a massive lop-sidedness. You may not see it because you're all gung-ho for Microsoft. That's your decision but I can't see the point of you constantly bashing the PS3 at all especially for only have 2 SKUS being sold. Your argument is purely revolved around something that's insignificant. Who cares if they've made that many. The point is how many is being sold which is half of what Microsoft is selling. The point is constant improvement in SKUs and making sure that customers are getting their moneys worth.

Who can complain about a 40-80GB increase in HDD while retaining a similar price? I just can't see a point in complaining about that. Who would complain about an iPod Touch going from 8GB to 16GB while retaining the same price? No one would complain. Increased total product quality while maintaining price. Well, then again it is a Sony product and you have been bashing the PS3, so I could rationalize that you would complain over something that's actually good. [/rant]

CAMOUFLAGEiPOD
02-04-2008, 05:57 AM
Good points made there Perpetual Heaven. ^^^^And one of the longest posts I ever read.;).
I don't know why people hate on the PS3, with the new games coming out that are getting alot better, who cares what system you play them on. I like Microsoft, they have many great games for the 360. I also have had alot of problems with 360 hardware, and pcs running MS os's. I wouldnt bash it to no end. I also have had and still own Sony digital cameras, radios, TV's, camcorders, walkman, mp3 player, and most have performed flawlessly. I did have a boombox that wouldnt read disks after about 3 years, and thats about it. The track record I personally have had with Sony, made me get a PS3, and I play it as much as my 360.
Alls I know is I like gaming, and I'll play on whatever system has the goods.

twelve
02-06-2008, 11:14 AM
Good points made there Perpetual Heaven. ^^^^And one of the longest posts I ever read.;).
I don't know why people hate on the PS3, with the new games coming out that are getting alot better, who cares what system you play them on.
The clue's in the name
www.xbox360achievements.org
That explains here at least. Generally when people hate on something with no good reason it's down to jealousy.

X monkfish69 X
02-06-2008, 09:07 PM
Who cares about who has the most SKU's ? Does it mean that MS has a bigger cock that Sony ? At the end of the day consumers buy what they want to buy. If they dont like it, then people either hold onto their cash or they make a purchase and hope to get the best out of their product before a better version of it is released.

Personally, I made the choice of the 60gig PS3 cause I have some PS2 games still and wanted to be able to play them should I get the urge. I also wanted to have the extra space and for a measly 50 more I got all that and an extra controller and two games.
That's what swayed my choice, no-one forced me into it and I'm more than happy with what I have.

Am I pissed off with MS and Sony for all of the rumours that something else bigger and better is just around the corner ? No ! It's progression ! Companies are always looking to make more money. It's what happens.

Deal with it !

X monkfish69 X
02-06-2008, 09:13 PM
Soak it all in...

http://gameinvasion.comcast.net/assets/04/01/05/01/04/asset-43066.jpg

Is it me or does that guitar have 10 buttons on the 'neck-thing' ?

((I'm not very technical when it comes to things mcusical...))

Bax x360a
02-06-2008, 09:17 PM
Only 30% of the people have not had a broken 360. By the way, poor Covert bought a brand new 360 console and had RROD out of the box. That's quality ;) It's also quality when we had to make a graveyard thread. [/rant]
RROD out of the box :eek: That is some bullshit right there! I would have been so pissed...
I totally agree with you about Sony making quality products, everything I've bought from them seems solid and has had a long product life.

Generally when people hate on something with no good reason it's down to jealousy.
So, so true. One of the best posts I've read in a long time. For anyone saying the PS3 sucks, it really dosen't... Uncharted and Ratchet and Clank are terrific games, plus it has a Blu Ray player; so how can that suck?

Who cares about who has the most SKU's ? Does it mean that MS has a bigger cock that Sony?
LOL! So funny. More SKU's = a wider choice for the consumer, which can't be a bad thing thinking about it? Its only annoying when you've bought a product and they release something considerably better in a short amount of time, now that annoys me!

X monkfish69 X
02-06-2008, 09:30 PM
Yes, it's annoying, but it is part of life. All things are superceded by something better than the one that went before....
Toothpaste, washing powder, cars, lightbulbs games consoles...... it's a fucking long list ! lol

The only thing that I can think of that hasn't been made better (cause it's perfection squared) is..... Cillit Bang !

Bax x360a
02-06-2008, 10:12 PM
YouTube - Cillit Bang - Hardcore Mix
Barry Scott, legend :p This remix is hilarious.

X monkfish69 X
02-06-2008, 11:00 PM
Lol, saw that ages ago. Still funny and always will be !

PerpetualHeaven
02-07-2008, 01:37 AM
LOL! So funny. More SKU's = a wider choice for the consumer, which can't be a bad thing thinking about it? Its only annoying when you've bought a product and they release something considerably better in a short amount of time, now that annoys me!

Sounds good on paper but it isn't. Okay so we have the puke green one, the black one with a bigger HDD, the white one that comes with an HDD, and the small one that's basically useless since you'll have to buy an HDD anyways. I wish they would make more colours for 360s though. I would so get a blue or red one.

I wish they sold the 60GB still. I should have bought that but oh well. I need a TV with a lot of inputs so I can hook up all my consoles at once.

twelve
02-07-2008, 08:30 AM
LOL! So funny. More SKU's = a wider choice for the consumer, which can't be a bad thing thinking about it? Its only annoying when you've bought a product and they release something considerably better in a short amount of time, now that annoys me!
The problem is that too many SKUs in such a short period of time is confusing for consumers. Especially when features are changed too (such as dropping BC), or having different models for different regions. For people like us that visit message boards and blogs we tend to know where the models stand but for parents buying a present it just melts their brains and they end up buying a wii.

The xbox 360 has been more spaced out with its SKUs but the changes have been so minimal that it doesnt really confuse anyone. The only real difference is the Core/Arcade which lacks a hard drive. The rest are pretty much equal for features.

Bax x360a
02-07-2008, 10:32 AM
Sounds good on paper but it isn't. Okay so we have the puke green one, the black one with a bigger HDD, the white one that comes with an HDD, and the small one that's basically useless since you'll have to buy an HDD anyways. I wish they would make more colours for 360s though. I would so get a blue or red one.

I wish they sold the 60GB still. I should have bought that but oh well. I need a TV with a lot of inputs so I can hook up all my consoles at once.
You can buy different skins for the 360 mate, from places such as Ebay. They'll void your warranty but if its out of date already, then its worth giving them a shot.

The problem is that too many SKUs in such a short period of time is confusing for consumers. Especially when features are changed too (such as dropping BC), or having different models for different regions. For people like us that visit message boards and blogs we tend to know where the models stand but for parents buying a present it just melts their brains and they end up buying a wii.

The xbox 360 has been more spaced out with its SKUs but the changes have been so minimal that it doesnt really confuse anyone. The only real difference is the Core/Arcade which lacks a hard drive. The rest are pretty much equal for features.
Very true, I can definitely see it being confusing for the average person just wishing to buy a console. I think your right that they just choose a Wii aswell, because c'mon, it only has one SKU right? Not exactly a hard decision when thinking about buying a Wii. The only thing you've got to stay away from then is buying the rubbish party games.

twelve
02-07-2008, 10:43 AM
The only thing you've got to stay away from then is buying the rubbish party games.
lol that can be difficult at times seeing as there are so many of them.

The only mini game compilation that's forgiveable is WiiPlay and that's only because it comes with an additional Wiimote.

Bax x360a
02-07-2008, 10:57 AM
lol that can be difficult at times seeing as there are so many of them.

The only mini game compilation that's forgiveable is WiiPlay and that's only because it comes with an additional Wiimote.
Exactly, theres way, way too many lame ass party games on the wii.

PerpetualHeaven
02-07-2008, 01:17 PM
You can buy different skins for the 360 mate, from places such as Ebay. They'll void your warranty but if its out of date already, then its worth giving them a shot.

I've had a skin and it's just not the same. I would also never customize my 360 unfortunately. I don't see how anyone could do it. I would not want to spend $80.00+ to repair. That's a game and a half.

twelve
02-07-2008, 03:51 PM
I've had a skin and it's just not the same. I would also never customize my 360 unfortunately. I don't see how anyone could do it. I would not want to spend $80.00+ to repair. That's a game and a half.
Heh. My latest 360 is not having its warranty broken purely as I've learnt from 4 RRoD.

My first 360 had its warranty broken so I could put a clear case on. Once I had opened it I also decided to flash the DVD Drive (naughty, naughty), that explains the massive amount of games on my Gamercard in case anyone has ever looked. Anyway I used my 360 a hell of a lot more after that, but about 6 months later I got my first RRoD. I sent it to a 3rd party company who repaired it for 50 (cost of a game). It worked for a further month before RRoD again, I got in contact with the repair company who refunded my 50 (so currently haven't spent a penny).

I was going to buy a new core system and use my HDD but I found some cheap motherboards on ebay so spent 80 on that (down 30 now but saving a ton of money not buying many games). Shortly after this MS announced the 3 year warranty for 360's, I kicked myself for ever voiding it. The new motherboard lasted about 8 months before the RRoD hit it. At this point the X-Clamp replacement had been discovered, I did this and to my surprise it worked. i got another 2 weeks out of it before the 4th and final RRoD. At this point I swore not to buy another 360 until the Zephyr motherboard came out (luckily the Halo 3 consoles with Zephyr motherboards came out a few weeks later).

In the end my GF bought me my current 360 for xmas. I am not voiding the warranty this time around and am appreciating my games a lot more because I'm buying them all.

The dead 360 is what I use for practicing case mods with now :p