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o0EVIL0o x360a
04-17-2008, 03:34 PM
So, having read the pages of discussion here, the rule seems to be:

If you play through the campaign on realistic (and have a check mark against every scene) but the achievement doesn't unlock, go back and play through any scene you haven't played as Knight before (on realistic).

For those of you who play through the entire campaign as Knight and don't get the achievement...I can't help. Anyone in this position who finds a strategy that works, share it here.


:whs That's exactly my thoughts. Please only post if you've already beaten the game as Knight but didn't get the achievement for FSP, and then managed to unlock it later. We don't need people to post that they had no problems, or played a scene as knight, or shot Gabe or anything like that. If someone wants to post here and actually help, post something we don't know yet!! ;)

TheKillerFreak
04-17-2008, 05:41 PM
Stoopid Game.

I've completed it as Knight on normal with a friend, him hosting, and then on realistic with me hosting.

He got Freedom Shall Prevail, I didn't.

I went back and played the final checkpoint on my own, and didn't get the achievement.

Then I joined someone's game on the convention centre level, and carried on playing till after the monorail bomb.

Then I started a split screen game with another profile, and played as Knight with my profile again. Completed the first act.

None of these worked.


This is REALLY simple stuff for them to code. It's not like we've been bending the rules or anything.

Can't believe this sort of thing gets through QA.

Especially after there was a similar problem with the first Vegas game.

It's a staggering level of incompetence.

Rant over.

Anyone got any ideas? I guess my main remaining options are to play through the whole campaign AGAIN as Knight, and play through the campaign AGAIN on singleplayer.

aaaaaaaaaaargh.

You say it's easy to code this, when it's not.
The first Vegas had a similar problem where if you played Normal before realistic, the game wouldn't stay on the realistic difficulty. So it was near impossible to even get the achievement.
A similar thing has happened again, that's all.

AVFC A1EX
04-17-2008, 08:07 PM
How I Got This Was I Read a Post saying to do last 3 Acts As Knight, But There Was No Matches Found So i Asked a Friend To Host But They Had Not Completed It Yet So i Finished Nevada Desert And Estate And Got the Achiebement Some Point Then

D3adcell86
04-17-2008, 09:37 PM
I played through on single player and it didn't unlock for me. I joined a game online and played the first scene and then it unlocked, so thats weird. It unlocked just not the way it should.

DJzero
04-17-2008, 11:22 PM
Add me to the list...

I have a checkmark on solo AND coop for every scene, but still no achievement. *sigh* C'mon, patch!

nomishood
04-18-2008, 11:06 AM
You say it's easy to code this, when it's not.
The first Vegas had a similar problem where if you played Normal before realistic, the game wouldn't stay on the realistic difficulty. So it was near impossible to even get the achievement.
A similar thing has happened again, that's all.

It IS easy to code this sort of thing, in relation to the other parts of the game, e.g. the new physics, bullet penetration and AI routines.

Also, the fact that the original Vegas game had a similar problem is not an excuse for it happening again. In my eyes, that makes it even more incompetent. It's not like the developers were blindsided.

All the achievement code has to do is make a check to see if all levels have been completed on Realistic, and if they have, unlock the achievement.

If you take a look at Halo 3 and COD4 you'll see no problems with unlocking achievements for beating the game on the hardest setting.

It's not difficult to get right. I'm guessing they rushed it through QA to get it out before GTA4. It worked, because I bought the game, and I wouldn't have if it had been released at the same time as GTA4.

nomishood
04-18-2008, 11:47 AM
Can someone clarify something for me?

When people are saying that they've unlocked the achievement by first completing it on realistic as the host, then joining someone else's game as Knight and completing any scenes they hadn't done, do they mean completing any scenes they hadn't done on Realistic or just hadn't done on any difficulty.

i.e. I've completed the whole game as Bishop on realistic and Knight on normal. I've only done two acts as Knight on Realistic. Is it worth me playing through the whole game as Knight on Realistc?

Mukor
04-18-2008, 12:01 PM
i.e. I've completed the whole game as Bishop on realistic and Knight on normal. I've only done two acts as Knight on Realistic. Is it worth me playing through the whole game as Knight on Realistc?

For me, I only tried beating a scene I hadn't done as Knight on Realistic and it worked.

I don't know how your having completed as Knight on normal will affect things.
In the in-game rewards menu, do you have the ribbon for That Wasn't So Hard (beating one scene as Knight), or is that space empty? If it's empty, that seems to be an indication that beating a new scene as Knight should work.

Did you beat the two acts on Realistic as Knight before or after you beat Realistic as Bishop? If it's before, beating a scene as Knight on Realistic that you haven't already might do it.

If it's after, I'd say it's not looking good for you. Of course, if you're trying to get any other achievements anyway (XP-related ones, for example), it can't hurt to play through the rest of the campaign as Knight and see if you luck out getting FSP to unlock.

beerwolfe
04-19-2008, 01:36 AM
I'm another victiim...

Finished the story mode in single player and realistic, and no achieve...

Very sad, I think I'll take a nap.

Bravo
04-19-2008, 06:09 PM
I was always the host, I played most in single player myself and the some missions with a friend and had no problems getting it. and if it matters I started out playing in realistic mode

porkstein
04-21-2008, 09:02 AM
now i think ive got it

played throu whole thing on solo, no ach

played a bit of coop (1st four scenes as knight) before, this may have mucked it

anyway, how it happens there doesn;t seem to be much pattern, but what matter is fixin it

so i tried first scene as knight, no ach

tried the 5 th scene, which i hadnt done as knight, did it as knight, it popped up as i finished it

this explains y convention center works - if youve done ten scenes to get the knight achs then youll need to do the 11th whcih ids convention scene 1

if you've done the whole game as knight you should have got it, thou many people haven;t, and im sure they've tried killing gabe themselves on the last scene, so maybe try a scene as bishop that yoou havnt done (perhaps the last scene). btw really am sorry to say but a patch is pretty unlikely. i am still thinking of how to soleve the VGA EvIl's problem thou

also, my rank reset on this when i was 200 000 xp 2nd lietenant, lost all xp and aces (and weapons and armour) really pissed me off. So i searched it and if you start the game with the guide up / sign in as it starts up it might reset OR if you turn the xbox off when changing apperarencer it resets

hope thsi helps for people who do (PFC ach) or dont want their rank reset

nomishood
04-21-2008, 09:19 AM
I think the crux of it is, if you complete the game on realistic before beating it on normal, you've got a much better chance of unlocking the achievement.

Likewise, if you complete it on realistic before you've completed every scene with Knight, you can go back and compete a scene with Knight and it should unlock the achievement.

However, if you've completed the game completely with Knight, and completely on realistic, and you still don't have the achievement, you're screwed. Like me.

Deadly Moves
04-21-2008, 02:55 PM
Ok so i've completed it 3 different ways on realistic now and still no achievement :mad:

1st time - Me and my bro completed it doing system link. I hosted some and so did he
2nd time - My bro hosted a splitscreen, so ive done every scene as Knight
3rd time - Just finished it completely on my own and still no achievement :mad:

Now its really pi**ing me off! :mad:
C'mon! sort it out Ubisoft... please?

Santa
04-21-2008, 04:03 PM
I want the 75 i have been owed, i've gone through it so much, so if i get to 925/1000 i will come to your house Ubisoft.

Jammy6
04-21-2008, 07:51 PM
I've done every level apart from 1 as Bishop, do this mean i have to complete it all again is Knight.

nomishood
04-21-2008, 08:01 PM
Well, I just completed the whole game on realistic in one sitting.

Still no achievement.

I can't help but feel that this is now one of the top 5 all-time stitch-ups I've ever been exposed to.

adefalco
04-21-2008, 11:42 PM
after beating it on realistic and not getting the achievement try joining a coop game on any difficulty than realistic. if all your boxes are checked it should pop after you complete any 1 act. thats how i got it

hope this helps

Deadly Moves
04-22-2008, 12:45 AM
after beating it on realistic and not getting the achievement try joining a coop game on any difficulty than realistic. if all your boxes are checked it should pop after you complete any 1 act. thats how i got it

hope this helps
When XBL is back to normal i'll give that a go... But im not getting my hopes up

ImmortalLeoman
04-22-2008, 03:29 PM
I got the achievement.... after I re-did a level as player two.:mad:

aCzarX
04-22-2008, 10:22 PM
I beat the whole game on realistic , solo ( Like you should have to , its way to easy Co , op) and i got the 75 point no problem.

I think this is a great glitch and teach all those who cheat co op a leason =)

ImmortalLeoman
04-22-2008, 11:21 PM
I think this is a great glitch and teach all those who cheat co op a leason =)

Do tell us how playing the game with someone else is cheating?

Raider
04-23-2008, 03:09 AM
I did mine solo, in one sitting and got the achievement. Try that.

JonHu
04-23-2008, 05:32 AM
However, if you've completed the game completely with Knight, and completely on realistic, and you still don't have the achievement, you're screwed. Like me.

I'm in the same boat.

I finished the game on Casual by myself, so I could know the story.

Then my friend, who never payed, hosted and I was Knight. He got it... I didn't. I have tried joining Realistic Co-op games on XBL. I have also done some solo rounds offline. Yes, all Realistic checkboxes are checked... even Showdown. I also shot the guy at the end.

mjpartyboy
04-23-2008, 02:15 PM
all Realistic checkboxes are checked... even Showdown. I also shot the guy at the end.
My friend matches all this and didn't get it either after completing Realistic as Knight. I got it after completing my own campaign and during that time I joined a friend's as Knight and they joined mine at the end.

twotonkoala
04-23-2008, 06:31 PM
I beat the whole game on realistic , solo ( Like you should have to , its way to easy Co , op) and i got the 75 point no problem.

I think this is a great glitch and teach all those who cheat co op a leason =)

I did the entire story on Realistic, by myself, and did not get the achievement.

Inform yourself before you make too many posts looking like a flat out prick.











P.S. Has anyone gotten it after the patch? They said it would pop right after loading your profile, no such luck for me.

EDIT: Literally seconds after posting this, I got it. I completed the first scene in single player after downloading the patch, and it popped. Give it a try just going through pic de pyranees on realistic, should pop shortly after the room where Gabe screws up and just starts shooting.

JonHu
04-23-2008, 06:52 PM
EDIT: Literally seconds after posting this, I got it. I completed the first scene in single player after downloading the patch, and it popped. Give it a try just going through pic de pyranees on realistic, should pop shortly after the room where Gabe screws up and just starts shooting.

I can confirm this. Just finish Act 1 - Scene 1 and you get it.

nomishood
04-23-2008, 07:09 PM
Sweet. I'll try this later. Hope it works. Then I can stop whining and be a man about the whole thing.

Deadly Moves
04-23-2008, 07:21 PM
I can confirm this. Just finish Act 1 - Scene 1 and you get it. and i can double comfirm it...
Thats exactly what i did and the achievement unlocked :woop: Finaly

INSANEKID13
04-23-2008, 08:53 PM
this thread can be closed down now that they fixed this and the other issues with this game

nomishood
04-23-2008, 09:11 PM
Yep, I can 100% confirm that downloading the update and then playing through the first scene unlocks this achievement.

Hats off to them for fixing this - I honestly didn't think they ever would.

DChiarelli
04-24-2008, 01:13 AM
i beat the story on realistic on the first playthrough and got my achievement...im lucky i guess

DChiarelli
04-24-2008, 01:14 AM
i beat it with my girlfriend and got my achievement but she didnt get hers...i felt bad that i got mine but she didnt get hers...

DChiarelli
04-24-2008, 01:14 AM
i beat it with my girlfriend and got my achievement but she didnt get hers...i felt bad that i got mine but she didnt get hers...
she didnt really care tho

XxBlueSpade2xX
04-27-2008, 05:30 AM
i beat it on my own, the ach. unlocked right away. but i have heard that coop is glitched, but then again i beat the coop t hunts on realistic and got the ach. so i really dont know

n1n3t33nd3lta
05-08-2008, 12:30 PM
just finished it last night and got the achievement. I swear to god the chopper at the end can suck my left testicle. Anyway, i had no problems out of it glitching up.

Parkerktm
05-09-2008, 03:35 AM
Can this be locked? This is a old issue that does not occur anymore thanks to a successful update

buck wyyld
05-15-2008, 07:24 AM
Patch or no patch--I beat this bastardo down in 3 days flat for 75 points all from solo. Some of it was tough, too, so I'm fairly proud of it. Now if only COD4 had co-op...:uzi:

tython
05-17-2008, 07:36 PM
I cleared the Terror Hunt on Realistic, but did not get the achievement, suggestions?

Tenacious C DSM
08-19-2008, 09:04 AM
i know this is an old thread but its where the achievement guide says to go for these problems.

I have beaten the game on realistic in single player, no co-op locally or on live, and the achievement didnt come up. I actually did the last act before completing the second to last act as the part where you have no team does my head in and thought that was the problem but from the sounds of it it isnt. I dont have access to live at the min as im moving house.

so my question is, is there any way of getting round the glitch without downloading the patch for someone who did the whole thing on relistic in single player and doesnt have access to co-op on live? its a rental and ive spent ages extra on it to complete realistic only for it not to pop up! thanks

D34DL0CK 119
08-22-2008, 10:12 AM
I got the "Freedom shall prevail" achievement first try through.

I had been playing the scenes with my cousin alternatively to get the CO-OP achievements by playing as knight as well as finishing it on Realistic.

I finished it but the achievement thing didn't come up, so I looked through all my missions and there was one randomly not on realistic even though I had played through the whole thing in one go. Maybe it didn't register or something.

Anyways, I did that mission again and I got it, I hope this helps...

getwarmer
09-12-2008, 08:22 PM
i went through the game alone on normal? i think. then went back through and did all but the solo mission alone and co oped the solo parts and got the achievement.

miniMasterDE
09-17-2008, 12:54 PM
I went through the game with a mix of Singleplayer, Coop (Host) and Coop (2nd player). I finished the game while being the second player in Coop and didn't get it (but the host did). Then we re-did the last mission with me as host and I got it.
Must be a glitch with being 2nd player in coop.

shotyMCshotster
09-19-2008, 06:40 PM
i played the game with my xbox not connected to the internet and played with my buddy via ethernet cable. we played through the whole game it kicked me off for some reason on rooftops didnt think anything of it. well at the end we beat it he got it i didnt. well i knew why so i played as bishop though, and completed it on realistic now would that be the problem. i have done all the things people have said. should i be connected to the internet. last time i updated was june before deployed to iraq well anyways please help thanks

HittingRug
04-18-2009, 01:58 PM
I think doing it on co-op is when the majority of the problem lies. nah man its not co-op. i did it completely solo and had never connected to xbox live and never played and co-op at all and i still didn't get it. i got the new patch thing for the game that was ment to fix the glitch and then did the first scene on realistic and it unlocked.

its definatly not the co-op that causes it. sadly its just the game :(

AgEnT STARZz
04-18-2009, 08:08 PM
nah man its not co-op. i did it completely solo and had never connected to xbox live and never played and co-op at all and i still didn't get it. i got the new patch thing for the game that was ment to fix the glitch and then did the first scene on realistic and it unlocked.

its definatly not the co-op that causes it. sadly its just the game :(

way to revive a 7month dead topic lol

GrumpierGrunt
06-05-2009, 02:14 AM
so can you get the achievement in co op?

Mr Burgerz
06-06-2009, 11:18 PM
Got my achievement easy post-patch, my last realistic was South Hall as it happens.

PMILL69
06-12-2009, 01:19 PM
no problems got all achievements on my first try

BackSpace07
10-13-2009, 03:01 AM
so there are no more problems? it's patched? I just want to know before I try it.

ejbadger
11-21-2009, 07:15 PM
Didn't get mine today. Kind of disappointed after finally getting through it!

NinjaHotPocket
12-22-2009, 11:26 PM
lol most people dont get the achievements because you need to play through every CHECKPOINT not just the level

Kamakazi Pear
02-19-2010, 08:05 PM
Guys, I found a way that personally fixed this glitch for me..

So I completed all of Realistic a year ago and didn't get Freedom Shall Prevail.

I got the game back last week, and planned on playing through Realistic with a mate. I played the first mission up until about half way through, where the Ambush checkpoint began, and it popped. So try that out if the achieve never popped for you, it worked for me.

BeJeckle
02-23-2010, 11:53 PM
Guys, I found a way that personally fixed this glitch for me..

So I completed all of Realistic a year ago and didn't get Freedom Shall Prevail.

I got the game back last week, and planned on playing through Realistic with a mate. I played the first mission up until about half way through, where the Ambush checkpoint began, and it popped. So try that out if the achieve never popped for you, it worked for me.

Were you playing as Bishop or Knight when it popped?

Kamakazi Pear
02-24-2010, 05:40 PM
Were you playing as Bishop or Knight when it popped?

I think Bishop, I was hosting, so whoever you are if you are the main player.

drkltus1
03-26-2010, 07:02 PM
i had no problem played half by myself an d the other half online but did it like a year between each other and it popped right after the cutscene

boldyno1
06-05-2010, 08:39 AM
I got itn yesterday and heres how.

I had got a lot of the online 6 player acheevs out the way but was also doig the story mode as well.

I didnt do any of the co-op missions left them to after i had fully completed the game, popped with no problems

Then i done the 5 and 10 scene ones and they seemed to pop up earlier than expected.:Bounce:

CLOUD STR1FE
07-08-2010, 07:46 AM
I got it. I went through the entire game by myself though. No co op.

McGoogles
07-16-2010, 10:31 PM
I started from the very beginning to the end by myself on realistic and the achievement popped when expected.

No co-op for me. I'm too good for it. ;)

stricken404
06-25-2011, 08:52 PM
How the heck have all you people beat Nevada Desert on REALISTIC!? You would think they would have decreased the terrorist density because you are SOLO but NOOOOOOOOO.... If anyone can give me any tips that aren't douchebag answers I would appreciate it. (Sorry for the late post, got the game on release but it just sat on a shelf gathering dust)

DarkMellie
07-01-2012, 02:09 PM
I know what you mean Stricken! I'd stopped playing 6 monthss ago on that level because it was so frustrating but then a friend joined me tonight and we smashed it in five minutes.

Freedom cheevo didn't pop though, but then I notice I haven't got the cheevo for completing the convention centre which is impossible as I had to play through it... and interestingly, when ai went back via scene-selection, two of the four scenes in that level show no completion... so I'm hoping tomorrow night to do those two and get my 75G!