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Jfiles
05-08-2008, 11:07 PM
Hi, you might know me as LEGOslayer from planetrenders.net. If you've used a render for a sig, you've probably been to my site. I'm almost always open to do render requests so I guess this can be an impromptu request thread as well.

Sadly I'm one of those online artsy types, but hey, at least I know what I'm doing. I've used GIMP since summer '06 and not to brag(though it is fun to) but I've been told both at my sites and some big time GIMPing sites(gimptalk.com anyone?) that I'm not too bad with sigs either. About 9/10 of these don't involve games, but I might as well post them anyway.

RENDER GALLERY: http://planetrenders.net/renders/thumbnails.php?album=lastupby&uid=37607

Oh, and if you want to try and get into rendering, I'm your man.

Anyways, here are some of my sigs. From newest to oldest.

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/LEGOslayer2/grawbw.png(made a diff version for SOTF)
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/LEGOslayer2/keiraknightley3.png
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/LEGOslayer2/contrast4.png
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/LEGOslayer2/contrast.png
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/LEGOslayer2/takeflight.png
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/LEGOslayer2/animer.png
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/LEGOslayer2/marathonsig4.png
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/LEGOslayer2/seanpaul2.png
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/LEGOslayer2/whitey2.png
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/LEGOslayer2/whitey.png
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/LEGOslayer2/wonder4.png
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/LEGOslayer2/wonder3-1.png
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/LEGOslayer2/stormsig.png
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/LEGOslayer2/pattern6.png
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/LEGOslayer2/pondering.png
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/LEGOslayer2/gal.png

The stuff after that is mostly crap, if you wanna see just copy/paste the url from one of my sigs and go check my photobucket. And feel free to PM me here or at PR.

Otisbum
05-08-2008, 11:12 PM
Text will be a big thing to improve on, but some of these are quite good. Borders also tend to make sigs look better.

I half expected to see Jimi Hendrix in that last one, with the psychedelic colors and what not.

Jfiles
05-08-2008, 11:19 PM
Not to argue(or act out of turn) but the text thing is a sorta signature style I use, and believe me, from experience, not having a border makes the sig look much better, borders tend to contrast the colors(otherwise we couldn't see the border) and make the image look constricted. The only sigs that I think need a border are Pop-Out sigs, which unless properly done, don't look all that well anyways. I take this sig stuff seriously(maybe too much) so not to undermine your authority as design staff or anything, but just my explanation to why I do those things(and maybe a tip or two as well.) Thanks for commenting.

Otisbum
05-08-2008, 11:21 PM
For the record, I've got no authority on the subject, just giving suggestions. ;)
And I see what you're saying. Love what you did with your name on the eyepiece for SOTF.

Jfiles
05-08-2008, 11:26 PM
Its all good, I was just saying, 10 posts to 2000+, as a mod on a site with 250000 plus, Ive dealt with some egos before, glad to see you aren't one of them. If you(or anyone else) wants, I can send you a .psd file(which is a sig broken down into layers) and if you have the latest GIMP(2.4 I think) I could help you through the creative process. I also have a tutorial at deviantart, which could help too.

Otisbum
05-08-2008, 11:28 PM
No worries.
I wouldn't mind checking out your DA tutorial, thanks. Just post the link and I'll try it out.

Ashz0r
05-08-2008, 11:34 PM
I like the use of the 3d abstract you blend it well.

On topic of borders, I border alot of my sigs out of lazyness and alot of mine are pop out sigs. I agree with you on the fact that the border can make the contents stand out or look weird especialy the font because it seems the font normaly has to match your border or it looks strange. Nice work though keep it up.

Been experimenting with other solutions to using borders and one is to not border the sig but put a pattern behind it (like a floral wallpaper or crosshatch pattern) then border around the pattern.

Jfiles
05-08-2008, 11:35 PM
http://legoslayer.deviantart.com/art/Pattern-Tutorial-75691967

I have another one(extremely basic) and a few old sigs and crap.

Jfiles
05-08-2008, 11:41 PM
soz for DP but to answer Ash, you would have to tie me down and force me to use a border quite honestly, and again, not to offend, but TBH I didn't want to say here since I'm still new but its kinda considered a n00b technique to use borders in sigs unless it plays a significant role in the sig(such as it is interconnected to the image itself) and honestly, I know one person who has ever been able to do that properly.

Otisbum
05-09-2008, 12:11 AM
Thanks, I've started working on one. It's looking great so far, and I'll have it done later.

Jfiles
05-09-2008, 12:15 AM
can't wait to see it

Deadly Moves
05-09-2008, 12:36 AM
Not to argue(or act out of turn) but the text thing is a sorta signature style I use, and believe me, from experience, not having a border makes the sig look much better, borders tend to contrast the colors(otherwise we couldn't see the border) and make the image look constricted. The only sigs that I think need a border are Pop-Out sigs, which unless properly done, don't look all that well anyways. I take this sig stuff seriously(maybe too much) so not to undermine your authority as design staff or anything, but just my explanation to why I do those things(and maybe a tip or two as well.) Thanks for commenting.
I kinda agree with you about the boarder making a sig pop out, but...
I also think a sig without a boarder can look unfinished

Really nice work though...

EDIT: How come you dont use one of your sigs in your sig?

Otisbum
05-09-2008, 12:37 AM
Had a few extra minutes:
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/9527/tutep5.png

I really like how it turned out, thanks again for introducing me to some of these different techniques. I'm still very new to Gimp.

EDIT: And I added a little flair to the text using a weird brush I made a week ago. Used the Displace tool in the same way for that.

MEA7HOOK
05-09-2008, 01:03 AM
Hey man - welcome to the site. Just wanted to say thanks for the renders. It seems like every one I'm into from planetrenders has your tag on it. Nice sigs also - I like seeing the black and white ones compared to the color/contrasted ones.

WadeoV2
05-09-2008, 01:15 AM
LEGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOslayerrrrr.

You may remember me from PlanetRenders. I was a former regular member on that site.

Original username was xWadeoOox.

Was in Team Replay and was called tR'Wadeo then when it changed to Avant Garde or something, I changed to aV.Wade.. but then I just decided to leave the site randomly.

Yeah, you may/may not remember me.

Anyways, sexy signatures, sir. I'm pretty sure you will help out alot on this site with the knowledge you have behind you.

Jfiles
05-09-2008, 03:18 AM
@deadly moves, a good sig is never finished *winks* and I've only posted on the forums for about 3 days, I'll add it when i get around to it.

@otis, VERY GOOD for a first try, a few tips would be to not use text too openly, and the faded text thing got old a while ago, and try to blend the C4D in more with the render(a soft eraser tool is good for that), really good.

@mea7hook, glad to see someone recognizes me

@wadeo, the name rings a bell....a really tiny almost unnoticeable bell, but a bell nonetheless. as for AG, we kicked their ass in a sig battle a few weeks ago(before I took a week off for GTA4)

As for the border argument, I will use what I call the hippie explanation. Art is a portrayal of life, and life has no borders, so when you see a character or effect being cut off by a border, it looks almost as if the whole world that the sig portrays is cutoff and constricted to that small space, without a border, it leaves more for the imagination and it is easier for the eyes to extend the border mentally, since there are no walls to hold it back. So maybe it looks more professional, but less artistic, and especially in a sig involving a game, where the world is made up anyways, a border closes a path that the game has been trying to open, so when you think about it, borders actually hurt the sig's creative possibilities, and we all know the sigs that get the most attention are the most creative.

Otisbum
05-09-2008, 11:08 AM
I'll keep working at it. ;)

Might be a good time to revive my own Gallery thread.

Skillet
05-09-2008, 11:56 AM
I've used a few of your renders in my signatures. Good quality.

I suck at rendering, personally.

Your signatures are pretty impressive for Gimp work. Probably the best ones I've ever seen.

Though they seem to lack depth. Some of them also have really wierd lighting.

As for borders, don't you think it's better to hide the art's end with a border rathern than having the stop be so blatant?

Honestly, if you go from an artistic stand point, your argument is backwards. The border acts in the same way as a picture frame. It draws your eyes to the image and also keeps your eyes focused there.

But to each his own.

Oh, and your text sucks. I know my own isn't pretty but... damn.

Deadly Moves
05-09-2008, 01:23 PM
As for the border argument, I will use what I call the hippie explanation. Art is a portrayal of life, and life has no borders, so when you see a character or effect being cut off by a border, it looks almost as if the whole world that the sig portrays is cutoff and constricted to that small space, without a border, it leaves more for the imagination and it is easier for the eyes to extend the border mentally, since there are no walls to hold it back. So maybe it looks more professional, but less artistic, and especially in a sig involving a game, where the world is made up anyways, a border closes a path that the game has been trying to open, so when you think about it, borders actually hurt the sig's creative possibilities, and we all know the sigs that get the most attention are the most creative.
I understand what your saying...
But then again you could argue that lifes boarders are our common laws.. yes you have to freedom to go out and stab someone, but then again most of us knows that its wrong.
Or even physics.. we are restricted in what we can do by the laws of physics

Plus you can make a boarder part of the actual artwork. therefore making a boarder also a piece of art ;)

Jfiles
05-09-2008, 04:00 PM
Well, anyways, I don't like borders, not gonna use them, it all good. And the text thing, I quit using the tiny faded text about a year and a half ago, and for a while I didn't use it at all, now I use this text because it adds to the art what empty space takes away and it looks much better than without it. Honestly I hate text altogether but the people that do this stuff professionally like this style I have so go with what works I guess.

ThunderStorm101
05-09-2008, 05:50 PM
ive used a few of your renders and there always great so cheers for that


Nive sigs for GIMP pretty impresive

Gumby™
05-10-2008, 02:44 AM
Really nice signatures.
Not a big fan of the contrast one, though.
Glad to see another GIMPer around here.