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Pootcrum
09-02-2008, 07:38 AM
I found this whilst checking out GamespotAU:

http://au.gamespot.com/features/6196976/index.html?tag=topslot;thumb;1

Very interesting article on the way in which Australians are getting slaughtered when it comes to retail pricing of games compared particularly to the US and Japan (Asia in general).

Most of us Aussie gamers would already be well aware of this problem, along with the ridiculous difference in release dates at times (for example, is Rock Band even out in Australia yet? Bullshit considering the upcoming release of Rock Band 2 in the US). I personally wont pay more than $80 for a new release unless it is a special edition release. JB Hifi usually have most new release titles at $79 for a short time after release before they get bumped up to the $110 mark again and thats the time to buy. If there werent inherent risks with buying from somewhere like PlayAsia I would do that more often than going down to my local.

Anyway, discuss all you Aussie (and non-Aussie) gamers out there.

MrDudeMan
09-02-2008, 07:50 AM
That's bullshit. I'm a non-Aussie, but I'll fly over there and help you start something on fire to get your point across, if you want.

Wargasm
09-02-2008, 07:53 AM
wow thats rediculous if i lived there i would raise hell

Eternal
09-02-2008, 08:12 AM
Yeah, which is the sole reason why I don't have that many games when compared to a lot of you US and UK residents. I mean, seriously, GTA4 is $114 in most shops (JB has it for $99).

aussiestatic
09-02-2008, 08:18 AM
Games have always been this expensive. Even going back to the sega and dreamcast and nintendo days. 99 dollars is a price ive become used to paying.

EB games kicks ass for games and itsd where i get most of mine. They usually price match games that are 99 dollars to around 79 if you ask nicely.

Besides, if you buy a game for 99 dollars at EB and trade it in they will usually give you back 40 dollars meaning you only really paid 50 in the first place.

exo-apollo
09-02-2008, 08:30 AM
Yes we get boned in the prices department. I get all my new releases from JB Hi fi though, most of theirs are 79

vI Starlight Iv
09-02-2008, 09:38 AM
whats the exchange rate?

Segnius
09-02-2008, 11:24 AM
Why is it that you don't want to buy anything from Play Asia?

EvilestBean
09-02-2008, 11:31 AM
Thats bad, they should do something about that.

Frazerc83
09-02-2008, 11:44 AM
I'm an Aussie aswell and that just bit the hand...... you bit the hand xbox you bit the hand :L

AllThePenguins
09-02-2008, 11:52 AM
The exchange rate is about 2.2 AU$ to 1GBP so if a game is $100 then it would be about 45 which is only about 5 more than we pay but if you buy a lot of games then it all adds up, I thought that we had it bad over here.

It's probably all down to tax, in the US the tax is different within the different states but averages out to around 7%, In Australia they have a goods tax of 10% (so they are getting screwed somewhere on the price) but over here (UK) we have a standard tax of 17.5%. Stupid government :(

vI Starlight Iv
09-02-2008, 12:02 PM
well not that much difference but wtf rock band isnt out

Pootcrum
09-02-2008, 12:29 PM
@Fawkes: Yeh its crap that Rock Band has taken so long. I have gotten to the point now with rythmic games that I dont really want more plastic pieces of crap in my lounge so I dont care. But the gap is just not called for.

@Segnius: I dont have anything against play asia at all, I got my Halo3 headset from them for quite cheap. But I like having the ability to easily go back to a retailer if there is a problem. When the retailer is in Hong Kong its not so easy. If games continue to be so much cheaper online then I will probably begin getting more from them.

Xterm1n8or
09-02-2008, 12:33 PM
Something you have to think about is the average annual salarys of American's, Britain's and Australian's.

The average American male earns $35,000 american dollars per year. The average British male earns $40,000 american dollars per year. Whereas the average Australian male earns the equivalent of $50,000 american dollars per year.


Let's get more detailed.

Average earnings per week:
British male - $769 US
Australian male - $962 US
American male - $673 US

Ok. RRP of most games:
Britain: $90 US
Australia: $100 US
America: $60 US

Amount of games the average male can buy with their weekly income:
Britain: 769/90 = 8.54 games p/week
Australia : 962/100 = 9.62 games p/week
America : 673/60 = 11.21 games p/week

So in fact Britain should be complaining too!

Pashos
09-02-2008, 12:41 PM
To the above post: yeah they make more than the U.S and U.K but its not like they are getting anything more out of their games. It's the same game that I could get here and you could get in the U.K only more expensive.

vI Starlight Iv
09-02-2008, 12:45 PM
Something you have to think about is the average annual salarys of American's, Britain's and Australian's.

The average American male earns $35,000 american dollars per year. The average British male earns $40,000 american dollars per year. Whereas the average Australian male earns the equivalent of $50,000 american dollars per year.

Looking at that it's easy to see the price of games is actually pretty fair. You may think they are expensive compared to in the US, but they are actually the same kind of price when you take into account the difference of annual incomes. ;)

You are paying the same kinda ratio of your annual salary for the game as your American counterparts do. Simple.

thats bollocks same game same price

Xterm1n8or
09-02-2008, 01:12 PM
Ok but if games were cheaper for them, they would still be earning the same amount per week, and therefore could buy 12 or 15 games per week when the UK still can only buy 8.5 with their money, see my logic?

exo-apollo
09-02-2008, 01:15 PM
Something you have to think about is the average annual salarys of American's, Britain's and Australian's.

The average American male earns $35,000 american dollars per year. The average British male earns $40,000 american dollars per year. Whereas the average Australian male earns the equivalent of $50,000 american dollars per year.


Let's get more detailed.

Average earnings per week:
British male - $769 US
Australian male - $962 US
American male - $673 US



Average age of the gamer in Australia is 21. Most people that are 21 aren't earning that much a week. Most of the people that I know that buy videogames also study 4 days a week at uni, work the other three days in the week and earn around $180 a week. Not to mention the cost of having your own place is so high here.

But I agree when you say that British people get ripped too. It seems like they do as well.

nt0
09-02-2008, 04:47 PM
New games mostly end up round 100 USD here in Sweden... Ouch.


Thank god for Region-free NTSC titles.

xENVxGAMERSKREW
09-02-2008, 08:09 PM
Something you have to think about is the average annual salarys of American's, Britain's and Australian's.

The average American male earns $35,000 american dollars per year. The average British male earns $40,000 american dollars per year. Whereas the average Australian male earns the equivalent of $50,000 american dollars per year.


Let's get more detailed.

Average earnings per week:
British male - $769 US
Australian male - $962 US
American male - $673 US

Ok. RRP of most games:
Britain: $90 US
Australia: $100 US
America: $60 US

Amount of games the average male can buy with their weekly income:
Britain: 769/90 = 8.54 games p/week
Australia : 962/100 = 9.62 games p/week
America : 673/60 = 11.21 games p/week

So in fact Britain should be complaining too! Wow, Didnt know all that, but thats messed up hopefully they dont rise it up here, like the movie prices they keep rising and rising.

JJBDude
09-02-2008, 09:43 PM
I've known for years Australians get it bad, it sucks hard for you and I wish for things to get brighter in the future for you all. :(

TheColdWolf
09-02-2008, 10:02 PM
Very interesting didn't know other countries cared about the price of games from the neighboring countries.

dakisbac
09-03-2008, 01:10 AM
Well, that sucks.

You can always move :)

_DaNnY_
09-03-2008, 02:17 AM
With the logical reasoning of average salary vs price of game because of economy that means xbox 360 games in india should sell for about $5 as they earn fuck all there. =/ Hah, but seriously...

In truth as I was told in my Sociology class, the average salary in the UK at the moment is 24,000 which is around $48,000 USD.

That's the average mind you and it's at that number because a hell of alot of people earn crap money (around 7,000 - 16,000 a year) and the rich earn riduculous sums of money and so it's bumped up the average; I can tell you the average person for sure isn't earning 24k, with a degree your expected to start on around 20k at age 20-24, if your unlucky and depending on industry it could be 19k or you may even start on that 24k mark but as the education system in england is a piece of shit (apart from the fact it's FREE until university - YAY!) we are experiencing a general social breakdown consisting of insecurity, extreme feminism and economic supression which leads to millions of people living on the poverty line, life in britain isnt a sweet one and most of us with brain cells wish we were never born here. (If you live in Britain, think your smart and don't see a problem with it *unfortunately there are people like this* then your probably very dumb.

So yeah as the UK government is paying various other governments in the world to keep it's world reputation sparkling clean by spreading false propganda, telling the foreigners we're smart, that we're good at Science and ICT etc I think it's important people outside the UK actually know what this shithole is really like from the truthful mouth of a citizen who's lived and traversed it their entire life.)

Wthout any dash of racialism however and nothing but direct truthness from the general psyche of your average british citizen a major reason why the british are seen as racist is because they get mad when the foreigners come here to earn money for a few months horde it all up and take it back to their country so they have some extreme spending power back in their homeland - this is unfair as stolen jobs damage our internal economy (that money is leaving our country) as the cost of living is so high here that we need the money which seems alot to these foreigners just to survive. (yeah we dont get any beautiful spending power lol)

Anyway yeah sorry that I went off topic, I guess it's relative in a way but yeah though in an ideal world we would all pay the same amount of money for our games it's not gonna happen is it; we're talking business and a reason to overcharge a specific area for games could be deliberate or undeliberate; however as a developing country i'm aware Australia is often overlooked by the media and entertainment industries; probably something to do with profit margins...

It's 03:17 :| peace :)

PS: I'm seeing most UK games selling for US $70-$80 brand new, some titles are $60 and I've seen Ninja Gaiden II for $40 (very cheap)

Rutawitz
09-03-2008, 02:25 AM
that sucks

AlphaXGamerXDad
09-03-2008, 02:50 AM
I just read that Australia has odd immigration laws making it easier for men to leave the country. The whole article was about women outnumbering men in Oz. Could be related, since most gamers are male.

At least you have all the worlds most venomous creatures. Oh yeah, and real sharks.

kantizuni
09-03-2008, 02:56 AM
feminism ..... leads to millions of people living on the poverty line.

True that, friend. ;)

exo-apollo
09-03-2008, 03:25 AM
Well, that sucks.

You can always move :)

True, how much do games cost in Denmark?

Pootcrum
09-03-2008, 03:38 AM
At least you have all the worlds most venomous creatures. Oh yeah, and real sharks.

"Sharks, jellyfish, swimming knives, there all in there.... " -Dylan Moran

The argument apparently goes that because we have all this space in Australia and not many people that it costs more to move products around our country. But the point made in the article that I think struck me the most, something I hadnt thought about until then, was that our Aussie dollar is now running pretty much on par for the most part with the US dollar. I hate economics and never really understood it so I dont care whether its because the US dollar is weak or the Aussie dollar is strong, or both, it stands to reason that we should be paying close to what folks in the US pay for games. Granted there needs to be an added extra for shipping over to Australia but really that should be it. All the extra crap we must be paying for in taxes and such, where is it going?

Well it surely isnt going in to ensuring that we get what everyone else gets on time, its not even the same content at times. Like Dark Sector for example, we apparently cannot handle the violence and gore that US residents can handle so our consumer commission demanded that we get a softened version of the game, with no disembowling, no screaming victims, almost no gore whatsoever, yet still rate it MA. Bullshit. Whilst the good old New Zealanders next door get the full blood and guts. Luckily we are in the same region so people buy from the kiwis. Surely they see the twisted logic here.

Anyway, back to my BELOW THE POVERTY LINE scholarship paid PhD work.

aussie_warrior117
09-03-2008, 06:48 AM
Yeh Aussies have always been getting the bad end of the stick. We aren't seen as a dominant figure in the gaming world (even though the perecentage of all people connected to Live who have a 360 is over 60%) we still have to pay absurd prices. As well as the fuel crisis and the price of necessities skyrocketing and with the high interest rates (that are starting to slowly fall down) obviously make buying our fave games a bit harder.

Eternal
09-03-2008, 06:55 AM
Yeah interest rates and the fuel prices.

Like Dark Sector for example, we apparently cannot handle the violence and gore that US residents can handle so our consumer commission demanded that we get a softened version of the game, with no disembowling, no screaming victims, almost no gore whatsoever, yet still rate it MA.

GTA4 is a censored version. Fallout 3 wasn't going to be released, but not will be with a lot of censoring. Dark Sector is a censored version. I'm willing to bet my left shoe that Deep Space will be a censored version as well.

spinflux
09-03-2008, 07:08 AM
.. however as a developing country i'm aware Australia is often overlooked by the media and entertainment industries..

Developing country? ouch!.. oh and you left out the part about your government spending millions on your track cycling program so that you can win lots of fancy gold medals :)

If it werent for the fact that shipping costs so much I'd buy pretty much all my games from play-asia, since all the big retailers here seem to be about 20-30 dollars more expensive most of the time

Eternal
09-03-2008, 07:13 AM
Yeah. Unless you're going to buy a bunchload of games from Play-Asia, it'll be too expensive.

aussiestatic
09-04-2008, 04:31 AM
I bought dark sector online from new zealand and I didnt find it to be very violent but the 110 price tag was a bit expensive.