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Conversation Between BiggD and LickableLemons7
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  1. BiggD
    06-18-2014 11:08 PM
    BiggD
    Eh, I'll probably hold off on it entirely. It never sparked much interest for me.

    I could see that complaint. It would make the ending - specially destroying the station - seem utterly pointless and nonsensical if Jensen is back. He's a great protagonist, but devs need to learn how to let-go from time to time (like 343 did with Cortana ). Oh well, I'm sure whatever comes next for Deus Ex will be a while since Edios just finished up with Thief last year. I'll be looking forward to it! And I now understand why you consider DX your favorite 7th gen game. It was a great experience.

    I'll look out for it. Still pumped for that game and hope we see it in late 2015!
  2. LickableLemons7
    06-18-2014 12:05 PM
    LickableLemons7
    So a DX series inspired by Mass Effect styled choices sounds intriguing but I'm more bothered by Adam Jensen potentially making a return as a protagonist, if he does that'll ruin the meaning of the multiple choice ending for those who played HR. They can't pull an Invisible War and just merge the endings from HR like it was done with the first game.

    Also, a closed doors 20-30 minute gameplay demo for The Phantom Pain was shown to a few select journalists at E3 last week. The demo will be broadcast on the Japanese Kojima Station tomorrow for the general public. So you'll get a taste for what an actual MGS game should be, not that icky Ground Zeroes.
  3. LickableLemons7
    06-18-2014 12:04 PM
    LickableLemons7
    I rented Murdered from Redbox. It's a good rental with a decent story but it had too many collectibles and the game constantly stuttered (360 version). I was watching Maka's collectibles guide and the X1 version looked like it performed ok but the framerate is always dropping on the 360 version. I'd say 7/10 for a rental and a very easy completion but I wouldn't recommend buying it.

    The DXU trilogy doesn't really surprise me because when early concepts were originally discussed this was mentioned: "The concept behind Deus Ex: Universe is to create an ongoing, expanding and connected game world built across a generation of core games. It’s a commitment on our part to deliver meaningful content that expands the franchise on a regular basis and to deliver a deep conspiracy that will span several connected Deus Ex games, creating a more immersive and richer experience than ever before."
  4. BiggD
    06-18-2014 02:10 AM
    BiggD
    And the loading screens! The Director's Cut couldn't be installed to the hard drive, so going between the Hengsha districts was so, so, so irritating. But I do agree sometimes getting lost allowed me to explore a little alley or some NPCs I wouldn't otherwise have met.

    How was that game overall? I didn't hear much about it, really. Sucks there's no in-game map. You'd think that should be a staple in open-world games. In terms of Deus Ex: Universe, I don't think they'll be any meaningless collectibles. The e-books, although I don't think ANYONE could find all 29 without a guide, served as a nice supplement to Darrow's background/influence.

    The article you posted todays about Universe perhaps being broken down into a trilogy kinda bothers me I feel as though it'll somehow "cheapen" the (no pun intended) universe/story.
  5. LickableLemons7
    06-16-2014 10:43 PM
    LickableLemons7
    But I say Universe should be even bigger than HR and that we should be able to visit more areas around a cyberpunk globe! As long as there is a decent amount of interesting side quests and game time isn't artificially padded out by hunting down meaningless collectibles.
  6. LickableLemons7
    06-16-2014 10:42 PM
    LickableLemons7
    From what I've heard, Invisible War merged all endings of the first game so each ending has an impact. But if the next game takes place after HR and before DX I doubt that each ending to HR can be merged, ha.

    Yeah, I remember getting lost in Hengsha too with all that verticality and jumping around the rooftops and whatnot. At least the game had a map so getting lost wasn't too big of a deal. And getting lost made me feel more immersed in the game's environment.

    I was playing some Murdered: Soul Suspect the other day and while there wasn't much to do in Salem (and it was a fairly small area to walk around) I still got lost because there was no in-game map! Hunting for collectibles became even more of a chore than it should've been. Every game with a mini-sandbox or full on open world should include a map so you can orient yourself.
  7. BiggD
    06-16-2014 02:55 PM
    BiggD
    I'll try to look into it!

    That's an interesting way to look at it. Start the next game without really having it's foundation built on HR's ending, that way it's a mystery. Ahhh, I just hope for the next game…the cities are easier to traverse. I can't tell you how many times I got lost while in Hengsha.
  8. LickableLemons7
    06-16-2014 01:40 PM
    LickableLemons7
    Yep, I'd recommend that you play the first game. I picked it up off of Steam. Bob Page is the main antagonist.

    http://store.steampowered.com/app/6910/

    I also bought Invisible War on Steam but I decided later that I wanted a hard copy so I also found it for the original Xbox. Haven't played either version yet, ha ha. I might as well look for The Conspiracy on PS2 too.

    The "canonical" ending to HR isn't very clear to me but I'd say destroying Panchea fits the most as characters like Taggert and Sarif aren't present in the first game. But HR and the first game are 25 years apart (storywise), so anything could happen. Each game in the series has had a different protagonist so far. As long as the next game doesn't give a clear answer to the ending from a previous game I'll be happy and my mind can continue to wander.
  9. BiggD
    06-16-2014 03:14 AM
    BiggD
    I totally get that.

    It's funny, I haven't played a game like this in a long time. One that makes me think about reality in such a way…cause I've been thinking about it all day (as lame as that sounds). Neither ending seems morally right. Destroying Panchea delays the inevitable, Taggert's leaves the Illuminati in power, Sarrif's hides the truth and shifts the blame, and Darrow's seems cowardly. Ugh. I'm glad I played this game, dude. It was great. I'd venture it houses one of the best and thought-provoking endings for a video game!

    Did you play the original Deus Ex? I know I'll never bother with it, but people said it's 1572x better and that the Bob Page guy from the credits is the main baddie.

    I wonder what Deus Ex: Universe could be about is HR was a prequel? Surely Jensen wouldn't be the protagonist because there's no sense of which ending was canon?
  10. LickableLemons7
    06-16-2014 02:11 AM
    LickableLemons7
    I ultimately want progress but everyone has a different definition of what is actual progression. The way humans interact with technology has changed greatly in the last 20 years, and in another 20 things can probably be very different from the way they are now. You see three year olds begging their parents for the tablet/phone to play games on when you go grocery shopping. People are starting to walk around with Google Glass...and they're being discriminated against.

    If I was in Jensen's shoes I would've just destroyed Panchea, although the other three choices had decent reasoning. I'm just glad I live in a time where I don't have the power to make such a decision.

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