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jgahagan 08-28-2010 01:09 PM

Achievement Discussion
 
Yeah, the other threads were pre-list discussions so I thought I'd start one where we actually have the list to talk about...

Looks the same as Fallout 3 tbh, with the exception of the hardcore achievement. Not necessarily a bad thing but...

xbfrittsox360 08-28-2010 01:40 PM

Looks a little more challenging in my opinion. Also more time consuming, having to deal out 10,000 damage for a variety of weapons. But then again, 10,000 might not be as much as it sounds if you're dealing out a few hundred to kill someone.

This may sound like a stupid question, but what is an "unarmed weapon"? I mean they have energy weapons, guns, explosives, melee weapons, etc. But this is another category we need to deal out 10,000 damage points for. I'm unclear what they are.

True I Skill 08-28-2010 01:43 PM

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/g.../achievements/

The link for anyone that wants the list.

I just read through.
they seem pretty annoying. I was fine with the Fallout3 acheivments. But with these the do 10k points of damage, Or healing with X item sounds a bitch. I went through fallout3 without even eating any food! Hopfully it carries over to your other playthrough's. Hopfully 10k points of damage isnt as much as it seems.

Edit:
Bfrittsox it sounds like they made a mistake and maybe Mean Unarmed? So just with your fists.

esio gk 08-28-2010 01:52 PM

This list is similar to Fallout 3. It may not seem like it, but I think it will require at least 2 or 3 playthroughs - I'm talking about 'Deal 10000 damage with'. It will be impossible to max out one character, so I will probably be doing 2 playthroughs: evil, long range weapon, Rambo-type character and good, unarmed, sneaky one.

Hardcore achievement is great, I can't wait.

I wonder about snowglobes. What are they? Are they like bobbleheads in F3? How many of them are in the game?

There is achievement for recruiting all companions - does this mean there is no karma requirement for recruiting them, or maybe it means that we will have to go from bad karma to good?

There are few achievements for playing games - high luck will come in handy.

There are 20 achievements for completing quests - I wonder how many main quests and how many side quests are there. I hope there are many side quests, I loved side quests in F3.

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This may sound like a stupid question, but what is an "unarmed weapon"? I mean they have energy weapons, guns, explosives, melee weapons, etc. But this is another category we need to deal out 10,000 damage points for. I'm unclear what they are.
In Fallout 3 unarmed weapons are: your fists, Brass Knuckles, Spiked Knuckles, Deathclaw Gauntlet and Power Fist (and unique versions of them).

Quote:

I went through fallout3 without even eating any food!
I'm not sure, but I think Hardcore mode requires you to eat and drink.

Deadly Moves 08-28-2010 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by xbfrittsox360 (Post 3450192)
Looks a little more challenging in my opinion. Also more time consuming, having to deal out 10,000 damage for a variety of weapons. But then again, 10,000 might not be as much as it sounds if you're dealing out a few hundred to kill someone.

This may sound like a stupid question, but what is an "unarmed weapon"? I mean they have energy weapons, guns, explosives, melee weapons, etc. But this is another category we need to deal out 10,000 damage points for. I'm unclear what they are.

An unarmed weapon is your 'fists'

Looks like a good list. Only one i dont like is the Hardcore acheev. I like the idea of Hardcore mode for the diehard fans. but there shouldnt be an acheev for it IMO

cazx27 08-28-2010 01:55 PM

True skill it says get banned from all the strips casinos not banned from strip clubs

Pearson 08-28-2010 02:18 PM

"The Globe Trotter" achievement sounds like the "Vault-Tec C.E.O." achievement where you collect all of the bobbleheads, I wonder if the snow globes serve the same purpose as the bobbleheads.

True I Skill 08-28-2010 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cazx27 (Post 3450216)
True skill it says get banned from all the strips casinos not banned from strip clubs

LOL.
I Fail at reading.
I guess no strip clubs then :(
I still think there should be nudity tho.

jgahagan 08-28-2010 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by esio gk (Post 3450212)
There is achievement for recruiting all companions - does this mean there is no karma requirement for recruiting them, or maybe it means that we will have to go from bad karma to good?

I would have thought that it will count across multiple playthroughs but I swear I remember reading somewhere that Karma isn't going to be in New Vegas so it wouldn't matter? Someone correct me if I'm wrong though.

esio gk 08-28-2010 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jgahagan (Post 3450476)
I would have thought that it will count across multiple playthroughs but I swear I remember reading somewhere that Karma isn't going to be in New Vegas so it wouldn't matter? Someone correct me if I'm wrong though.

There is Karma system and there is Reputation system in New Vegas. Reputation Affects how towns and factions react to you. Karma affects how people react, but it has much smaller effect than it had in F3. At least so I've read in one of the previews.

jgahagan 08-28-2010 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by esio gk (Post 3450565)
There is Karma system and there is Reputation system in New Vegas. Reputation Affects how towns and factions react to you. Karma affects how people react, but it has much smaller effect than it had in F3. At least so I've read in one of the previews.

Ah, that was probably what I read then, that it didn't play a bigger part. Just got a tad mixed up, 'tis all.

Pixo 08-28-2010 05:33 PM

I have to say this isn't as bad as I thought it would be. The only achievments that'll take a while are the 10000 damage ones... especially the Melee and Unarmed ones. Other than that these achievements seem pretty fun. I'm just happy we don't have to kill all the NPCs for an achievement.

Frobozz34 08-28-2010 06:57 PM

the only one i'm worried about is Recruit all companions as i never even found the dog in fallout 3. For hardcore i will just create a second game so i wont have to worry about the other achievements and try to get through the game as quickly as possible

Judge Bergan 08-28-2010 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pearson (Post 3450249)
"The Globe Trotter" achievement sounds like the "Vault-Tec C.E.O." achievement where you collect all of the bobbleheads, I wonder if the snow globes serve the same purpose as the bobbleheads.

It was confirmed a few months ago that Snowglobes are the collectibles instead of Bobbleheads this time around :)

KAG1092 08-29-2010 12:23 PM

I don't think these achievements where you have to deal 10k damage will be a hassle. I can easily spend 50+ hours on a single save in Fallout 3 and not get bored, and I'm pretty sure I'll be dealing out well over 10k damage while doing that. Melee might be a bit harder, but that could always be fun as well.

Also, gambling! YAY! =3

SpursGam3r6o9 08-29-2010 09:23 PM

the achievemnts are nice but who cares if they are good or bad because either way new vegas will be amazing!!!

Xylon Uxkid 08-30-2010 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by KAG1092 (Post 3452822)
I don't think these achievements where you have to deal 10k damage will be a hassle. I can easily spend 50+ hours on a single save in Fallout 3 and not get bored, and I'm pretty sure I'll be dealing out well over 10k damage while doing that. Melee might be a bit harder, but that could always be fun as well.

Also, gambling! YAY! =3

Agree with you, for me 10k is not that much considering the size of this game and all hours you can spend on it.

H2O 08-31-2010 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Deadly Moves (Post 3450215)
An unarmed weapon is your 'fists'

Only one i dont like is the Hardcore acheev. I like the idea of Hardcore mode for the diehard fans. but there shouldnt be an acheev for it IMO

lol.

I'm the exact opposite. The Hardcore one is the only one that i think they HAD to include.

They are called achievements after all. So it should really require skill and effort to get them.

Barad 08-31-2010 12:36 PM

yhh this list is quite like fallout 3, hardcore mode should be interesting..can't wait!

Val 08-31-2010 08:28 PM

These look about right, i actually enjoyed going out and exploring everything in F3, so "Master of the Mojave" seems like good fun. "The boss" really dosen't worry me, since Fallout is such a big game and it gives you xp for just about everything you do, i don't see it as something that someone needs to grind viciously for. As for 10k weapon damage..well now i have a reason to pick up unarmed weapons. Good times.

Reaper Xan 08-31-2010 10:54 PM

it will be a good challange... :biglaugh

Pieville 09-01-2010 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by SpursGam3r6o9 (Post 3454005)
the achievemnts are nice but who cares if they are good or bad because either way new vegas will be amazing!!!

I agree with that, honestly I could care less for achievements. To me they're just a bonus, I only care about playing this amazing orgasmic game!
FO:NV FTW!!! :woop:

cotton eyed jak 09-01-2010 10:02 AM

Yea, don't think they will be too bad, just the hardcore mode and globetrotter will be my worst :)

Jellybean468 09-01-2010 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by cotton eyed jak (Post 3462894)
Yea, don't think they will be too bad, just the hardcore mode and globetrotter will be my worst :)

Really? I'm not looking forward to 10,000 damage with your fists :3

Harry Lloyd 09-01-2010 02:30 PM

Indeed, that achievement is ultra dumb. I think I used my fists like 5 times in Fallout 3, if not less.

I really like achievements that take a long time to get, but only those that come naturally during the course of the game. Everyone will use guns, energy weapons, computers, lockpicks, and even melee weapons are often useful when we're sneaking.

I hope there'll be the Chinese Stealth Suit in the game, bcause that's the only way this achievement might get easier. Maybe we'll get a power fist or something too.


Hardcore will be very interesing, because it doesn't affect AI difficulty. I'll save that for my second playthrough once I know every main quest, so that I don't have to be annoyed that much by this mode.

esio gk 09-01-2010 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jellybean468 (Post 3463036)
Really? I'm not looking forward to 10,000 damage with your fists :3

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harry Lloyd (Post 3463379)
Indeed, that achievement is ultra dumb. I think I used my fists like 5 times in Fallout 3, if not less.

Actually, your fists do not count as Unarmed Weapon. Only Steel and Spiked Knuckles, Power Fist and Deathclaw Gaulntlet do.

Jellybean468 09-01-2010 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by esio gk (Post 3463808)
Actually, your fists do not count as Unarmed Weapon. Only Steel and Spiked Knuckles, Power Fist and Deathclaw Gaulntlet do.

And Brass Knuckles. Sorry, had to point that out :3

Reaper Xan 09-01-2010 11:07 PM

:( too much time for 1000/1000... :Bounce:

Jellybean468 09-01-2010 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper Xan (Post 3465036)
:( too much time for 1000/1000... :Bounce:

But a good challenge :biglaugh

Reaper Xan 09-02-2010 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jellybean468 (Post 3465179)
But a good challenge :biglaugh

:biglaugh YEAH!!! :p


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