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Trikke 10-23-2010 06:19 AM

Difficulty Rating
 
Similar to x360a's sister site, ps3trophies.org, I am creating this poll thread.

I already made another poll (see Dead Space: Ignition) and the feedback was very positive.

Personally, I think we should use these polls more and more for all kind of games spread across x360a.
The reason for this is simple: it is not because I find a game difficult, that it is also difficult for you.
One can be good and shooters and bad at racing games, while someone else may be the opposite.

I believe an author of an achievement guide should put the difficulty rating based upon others people's experiences rather than his own.

Your opinion does matter!

NOTE: once you voted, you can't change it anymore! Each vote is anonymous.



Voting Guidelines
  1. Do not vote unless you have played the game.
  2. Do not vote until you have dedicated a substantial amount of time towards the game.
  3. Do not vote based solely on the descriptions from the achievement list.
  4. A time consuming game does not necessarily mean a difficult game so vote accordingly.
  5. Vote with honesty and integrity.

Unr3quit3d 10-23-2010 06:51 AM

To my knowledge, no one on XBL is yet to get 1000G
So I'm going to have to say 9/10
The campaign itself is not that difficult (On Hard, can't say for God Hard)
But the Challenges are an absolute killer (Secret Achievement 50G)
I've been stuck on Challenge 6 for a solid 7+ hours to no avail
Good luck to anyone going for completion,
I tip my hat to anyone who succeeds haha

sepulturas666 10-23-2010 08:33 AM

Another vote for 9/10. It's perfect example how one achievement can bump overall difficulty rating a lot (like NGII-Master Ninja one).
People are stuck at challenge 4 or 6 for days. I watched video of Shinji Mikami, who was playing one tactical challenge. Even he died lol. :)

Rather easy 950G, but for 1k you probably will break few controllers. Good luck for all completionists here. :p

edit: lol someone voted with 5. Let's hope he say why.

Frostyks 10-23-2010 10:20 AM

Another vote for 9. Those challenges are hard as hell.

Mr Magic 10-23-2010 08:16 PM

9 just because of challenge 6. Anyone who votes under 9 obviously hasn't started the sixth challenge. So if you haven't don't even vote, until you see for your self how hard it is.

demi 10-24-2010 04:41 AM

I'd vote a solid 7. Just because one challenge is hard doesnt mean suddenly all the achievements are difficult. You can replay mission on Casual to cleanup. And Hard mode isn't as tough as it would make it seem. You can cheat the no-death one by Continuing. I would rate everything aside the challenges a 5. The Challenges are worth an additional 2 points as it is.

Mr Magic 10-24-2010 06:17 AM

The poll is to vote on the difficulty of obtaining 1000 gamerscore in the game. If you want, go make another poll for voting on 950. The last 50 point achievement alone puts this game in the 8-10 range in difficulty for completing the entire game. It doesn't matter if it's one achievement or twenty.

demi 10-24-2010 07:10 AM

u mad bra? 7/10 is still decently difficult. It's just not a 9.

Aara123 10-24-2010 01:57 PM

Damn, looking at this thread makes me want to get this game for the PS3 so not to ruin my percentages...

Barad 10-24-2010 03:33 PM

To get a 1000G, my guess is 8/10 - pretty tough!

DOPE BOI 10-24-2010 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sepulturas666 (Post 3650399)
Another vote for 9/10. It's perfect example how one achievement can bump overall difficulty rating a lot (like NGII-Master Ninja one).
People are stuck at challenge 4 or 6 for days. I watched video of Shinji Mikami, who was playing one tactical challenge. Even he died lol. :)

Rather easy 950G, but for 1k you probably will break few controllers. Good luck for all completionists here. :p

edit: lol someone voted with 5. Let's hope he say why.

I was the first one to vote 5. The reason I did this is because for the overall 950 that seemed like a fair number for a average of most gamers. The gamers who are pretty experienced with this sort of game will find it to be a 2-3, as for less I bumped it up a little.

Now I didnt factor in the tactical challenge because the OP is using this to determine on his guide and or road-map. Now some gamers might look at that and assume that the game as a whole is a 9-10 and pass on the game, when that is simply not the case. Now if someone is a completionist then that 9-10 rating would matter.

So if the OP is going to use this in the guide or road-map, he should mention its a easy 950 and a difficult 1000

Sparkle Emotion 10-24-2010 08:21 PM

This game is not so hard :) I got 1250 on Ninja Gaiden 2 and have beaten Master ninja without ninpo ;)

DOPE BOI 10-24-2010 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparkle Emotion (Post 3656299)
This game is not so hard :) I got 1250 on Ninja Gaiden 2 and have beaten Master ninja without ninpo ;)

Do you have a 1000 in this game?

Trikke 10-24-2010 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DOPE BOI (Post 3656280)
Now I didnt factor in the tactical challenge because the OP is using this to determine on his guide and or road-map. Now some gamers might look at that and assume that the game as a whole is a 9-10 and pass on the game, when that is simply not the case. Now if someone is a completionist then that 9-10 rating would matter.

So if the OP is going to use this in the guide or road-map, he should mention its a easy 950 and a difficult 1000

True. If the game would be rated 9/10, many people might indeed skip this title. I know I did on a few titles already, because of the difficulty setting.
That's why it's best, IMO, to make a balanced average based upon everyone's "feel" of the game.
There's one guy who voted 1/10 on this one. Either he really is a god at this game and thus won't mind to share with us what this last (secret) achievement is. Or, he's just making this poll a joke, which is sad as it will influence the rating somehow.
Now, the more votes we get, the better idea about the difficulty.

True. I already thought of informing future gamers about the more or less "ease" to attain the 950G, but that 1k'ing the game will be rather challenging. Some people will be satisfied with "only" 95% completion :drunk

DOPE BOI 10-24-2010 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trikke (Post 3656400)
True. If the game would be rated 9/10, many people might indeed skip this title. I know I did on a few titles already, because of the difficulty setting.
That's why it's best, IMO, to make a balanced average based upon everyone's "feel" of the game.
There's one guy who voted 1/10 on this one. Either he really is a god at this game and thus won't mind to share with us what this last (secret) achievement is. Or, he's just making this poll a joke, which is sad as it will influence the rating somehow.
Now, the more votes we get, the better idea about the difficulty.

True. I already thought of informing future gamers about the more or less "ease" to attain the 950G, but that 1k'ing the game will be rather challenging. Some people will be satisfied with "only" 95% completion :drunk

Im one of those people who are satisfied with getting 95%, sometimes I rather give up, then to tarnish how I feel about a title because of some ungodly achievement. I love getting achievements but I wont let them frustrate me, if I feel it is a challenge and that I can do it without breaking controllers then yea, im down.

Im am also 30 with a wife and children, I own every console and with all the great games there is to play I dont want to spend too much time on just one achievement, because I have higher responsibilities at home.

I do believe some people already have 1ked this. Congrats to them as that is a 1000 to be proud of.

Mr Magic 10-24-2010 10:13 PM

I've seen plenty of road maps that state 20 hours for 900G and 50 for 1000G. This game is a perfect example, probably a 4 or 5 difficulty rating for 950G. But for the full 1000G it has to be 8-10. I don't see how it's a 7 when no one on these forums has 1000G in it.

zero87 10-24-2010 11:50 PM

The campain is not that hard, I'll say is around 6, but the hardest part of the game, definitly is challenge 6, is a solid 11, the best so far that i get is to round 4, and it was an instant kill for me...., anyone past this?

demi 10-25-2010 12:18 AM

I made it to Wave 5 and almost killed 1 Bogey... watch this space, I will do it for sure. I can get up to Wave 5 easily I just need to have the right setup.

NemesisTheory 10-26-2010 05:52 PM

I voted a 9 (for 100% completion), the final challenges are really hard compared to the rest of the game.

Tufty 10-26-2010 07:33 PM

Has this ever been done before? If not then great idea Trikke. It's best to get an opinion from the community as opposed to a single opinion.

Trikke 10-26-2010 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tufty (Post 3664494)
Has this ever been done before? If not then great idea Trikke. It's best to get an opinion from the community as opposed to a single opinion.

I tried it once on the Dead Space: Ignition guide, and the people's reactions were very positive, but I "stole" that idea from ps3trophies.org, x360a's sister site.

I've always liked their voting poll. Thought I might try it here as well.

demi 10-26-2010 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Magic (Post 3656819)
I've seen plenty of road maps that state 20 hours for 900G and 50 for 1000G. This game is a perfect example, probably a 4 or 5 difficulty rating for 950G. But for the full 1000G it has to be 8-10. I don't see how it's a 7 when no one on these forums has 1000G in it.

Hey Mr Magic.

7/10

u mad?

Monkie of Doom 10-26-2010 10:50 PM

Yeah, this is a 7/10 in difficulty.

JuSt BLaZe 10-27-2010 04:26 PM

I'd say 8/10. Yeah the Challenge-Mode really kicks your ass.

Siegfried 10-28-2010 04:49 AM

I'm completely in favor of these pools, way better than a one person rating for the game.

Breaking down the note I would say that:

Campaign on hard, every other achievement, finish it without any deaths - 5/10. It's a pretty easy game that can be mastered without any trouble.

Challenge 1-5 are fun, will require a bit of practice, but overall, nothing too hard, took me a bunch of tries to get past number 4, 2 and 3 I passed first try... it's not hard, I would bump the note to a 6/10 maybe.

Now, Challenge 6 is the monster in this game. I can't get past wave 3 yet and pretty much 70% of my tries I die on wave 2. If you want just the gs, it's an easy and quick 950/1000. If you want to complete the game, consider this game an 8/10, 9/10 or even 10/10 depending on how good you are in games like that. That last challenge will make you work for this achievement.

Heckaton11 10-29-2010 04:38 AM

9 for difficulty. Wuda been a 10 if God Hard achievement was put in there.

ExtremeRugburn 10-30-2010 05:59 PM

I completed my first playthrough on Hard last night, but im not going to vote until after I have played through the challenges. From what I have read those can be a bitch and voting without experiencing those wouldnt do this poll justice. As it stands I would give this game a 6, again thats without experiencing the challenge stages.

*EDIT*
Ok I have played the first 5 challenges. With the guide in place challenges 1-3 & 5 WERE CAKE. Challenge 4 gave me a little trouble on wave 2 at the beginning until I got the timing of the LFE and grenades down. Now the first 4 waves go by like clockwork, but I failed 15 attempts of wave 5 last night. I cant seem to survive very long after I kill the intial rocket romanov and a few Ninja RI's. It is definately beatable though. I would say a difficulty increase from 6 to 8 is warranted. Once I beat this and experience challenge 6 then I will set my vote in stone.

reinachii 11-01-2010 10:09 PM

play through on hard and 950g - 4/10. tactical challenges 9-10/10?

Tramonto 12-14-2010 09:52 AM

I'd say 6/10 for 950, 9 or 10/10 fot 1000Gs. I think challenge 6 is one of the most difficult things I've done in videogames, and I managed to get 1000Gs in Ninja Gaiden 2 without throwing my controller at the screen...

Kitsune666 12-31-2010 06:35 AM

I'd have to agree. the Game is pretty easy (minus few spots) but the challenges take the cake for the most ridiculous achievement. Especially since your comrades die so quickly, and its only you on the field surrounded by commie robots..... now if we could have Burns backing you up... I'd say we'd have a fair fight.


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