List of Songs Helpful For Getting the 'HOPO-cidal Maniac' Achievement (WiP)
Please note this is work in progress. I do have a lot of DLC, and I'll add any songs I come across, but I can't remember every song with a lot of HO/POs, so rather than ranting at me to fix this, please just help me by informing me politely.
What is the HOPO-Cidal Maniac Achievement?
This achievement worth 25 gamerscore is for hitting a whopping 53,596 Hammer-ons and Pulloffs. You must not strum them for them to count, and it must be on guitar. Obviously this is a lot of work, but you can cut down some of your time by playing these songs, which have moderate to heavy use of HOPOs.
If a song is green like this, it is fairly easy even for players of lower skill.
If a song is orange like this, it means that a skilled player shouldn't break a sweat but if you are new to this game you may have trouble.
If a song is red like this, it means that you should take caution with these songs if you are an average player as they are difficult to even pass.
Everybody Wants to Rule the World
Break on Through (To the Other Side)
In The Meantime
Saturday's Alright For Fighting
Something Bigger, Something Brighter
Rainbow in the Dark
Before I Forget
25 or 6 to 4
Jerry Was a Race Car Driver
Laid to Rest (160msp)
Less Talk More Rokk (80msp)
The Metal (160msp)
Inside the Fire (160msp)
Hallowed Be Thy Name (160msp)
Love Spreads (160msp)
Guns of Summer (160msp)
Satch boogie (160msp)
Joker and the Thief (160msp)
Tha Shnizit (160msp)
Caprici Di Diablo (160msp)
Rude Mood (160msp)
Hanger 18 (160msp)
China Cat Sunflower (160msp)
My Last Words (160msp)
My Name is Jonas (160msp)
Blue Sky (160msp)
The Way that it Shows (160msp)
Synchronicity II (160msp)
Tuesday's Gone (160msp)
Are You Dead Yet (160msp)
Waking the Demon (160msp)
Nightmare (A7X) (160msp)
Another Way to Die (160msp)
Aesthetics of Hate (160msp)
The Entertainer (160msp)
Sweet Home Alabama (160msp)
She's always a Woman (160msp)
Through the Fire and the Flames (160msp)
Check My Brain (160msp)
Made of Scars (160msp)
Burn It To the Ground (160msp)
Walk (Pantera) (160msp)
Even Flow (160msp)
Do You Feel Like We Do (160msp)
Rattlesnake Shake (bordering on Red) (160msp)
Unholy Confessions (160msp)
Welcome to the Family (160msp)
Two Weeks (160msp)
The Trooper (160msp)
Giddy on Up (160msp)
Writing on the Walls (160msp)
Spirit in the Sky
RB2 Free 20
Prequel to the Sequel
Like a Fool
I Wanna Be Your Man
Ashes to Fire
Green Grass and High Tides
Flirtin' With Disaster
Timmy and the Lords of the Underworld
Lego Rock Band
Rock Band Network (Price)
Push Push (Lady Lightning) (80msp)
Persistence of Vision (80msp)
Modern Mathematics (80msp)
Guitars Sucks (160msp)
Betty and Me (160msp)
Special Effects (80msp)
We Collide (beginners may need no-fail for the intro) (160msp)
Dogs can Grow Beards All Over (160msp)
A Christmas Rock Medley (80msp)
Cameleon Carneval (160msp)
Veil of Illumination (Part 1) (160msp)
Veil of Illumination (Part 2) (160msp)
For The Love of God (160msp)
Henchman Ride (160msp)
"The Metal" and "Bulletproof" are good ones to.
Yeah "The Metal", "Inside the Fire", and "Woman"
I'm not sure how much effort it would take, but it would be cool if you could add the song length to HOPO ratio for songs. I think "Hallowed Be Thy Name (Live)" by Iron Maiden has quite a few.
Thanks for the suggestion guys, added them to the list. I haven't got time to work on it now, because I'm off to school in a few, but I'll get to work on adding ratios. I assume this is the kind of thing you mean...
GGaHT with a ratio of 11 (length) to about 8 (lots of hammer-ons in both of it's epic solos). I'd write it like this
Just play the game... got like 45 k atm and havent even focused on the cheevie.
Llama by Phish
Rainbow in the Dark by Dio
Bang Camaro - Push Push (Lady Lightning) 80 points
Tons of HOPOs, pretty easy to play on hard, and can be used for "Shameless Self-Promotion" cheeve.
Love spreads - DLC
Persistence of vision - RBN
Prequel to the Sequel - 20 FREE DLC
Tripolette - RBN
Guns of Summer - DLC
Satch boogie - DLC
Laceration - RBN
Does using the tiny buttons to play hopo in solos count as "not strumming"?
DLC Hysteria by Muse 160msp. A lot of HOPO's in this song, especially on bass. I would venture to guess somewhere around 800 notes.
Hysteria on bass would be good, but it's under guitar goals so as far as I'm aware it can only be done on guitar. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Also, I have no clue if hammer-ons count if you use the solo buttons, I'm gonna research it and let you know.
As for the average ratio, it would be quite difficult to do if I have to count every hammer-on in a song because some of these songs I may not actually own, so how would i count it if I don't own it?
Have added all the suggestions above to this list.
Another good song for the achievment is "Joker and the thief." If your a skilled expert player then its a good pick, but it could be a challange at the first playthrough or two.
Some more songs for guitar are:
RB2 Bodhisattva - Steely Dan
RB2 Pain Killer - Judas Preist
DLC YYZ - Rush
Added the last three suggestions, and also added a colour code system to the list which ranks them on difficulty. See OP for details. Also can someone inform me what Laceration is like on guitar? I don't have that song myself.
Here are a couple other good ones, I'll use your color system too!
Modern Mathematics - Terrorhorse RBN
Tha Shiznit - Snoop Dogg
if you are really good (were talking like best of the best) and want to get this fast:
- Caprici Di Diablo (DLC - Yngwie Malmsteen's Rising Force)
- Rude Mood (DLC - Stevie Ray Vaughn)
- Hangar 18 (DLC - Megadeth)
i recommend no fail for any of these
Random things to add from my experience with the achievement; I got 20,000 HOPO's from doing all the individual guitar goals and the Endless Setlist III, so you may as well do them first if you're a completionist. The achievement itself is actually very easy to get if you decide to grind the songs, playing a strong HOPO-based chart can get you the achievement in under six hours if you start from scratch and under 3.5 hours if you get the other guitar goals done before grinding. I relate it to the 10,000 scratches/5,000 crossfades in DJ Hero, it's a lot less daunting than it sounds.
Added caprici, rude and hanger 18 to the list, and I also played levitate by I mother earth (metal pack exclusive) and that had quite a lot of hammer-ons in it, not too hard to play either though not as easy as Tears for Fears.
Alabama getaway from RB2 has quite a few also and its very easy and quite short.
This list REALLY needs total song length and total possible HOPO's, otherwise it's just a bunch of speculation as far as I'm concerned.
Personally, I'm just going to play them all (that I have) and see how close I am by then.
Rock Band 3 Disc Songs:
Break On Through (To the Otherside): 152, 2:29
In the Meantime: 196 HOPOs, 5:05
Crosstown Traffic: 165 HOPOs, 2:27
Something Bigger, Something Brighter: 717 HOPOs, 5:19
Inside the Fire: ~ 530 - 550, 3:50
Hallowed Be Thy Name: ~850, 7:52
song: everybody wants to rule the world
song length: 251 seconds
possible HOPOs on expert: 312
average HOPOs hit per second: 1.243
song: break on through to the other side
song length: 147 seconds
possible HOPOs on expert: 151
average HOPOs hit per second: 1.027
song: in the meantime
song length: 298 seconds
possible HOPOs on expert: 191
average HOPOs hit per second: 0.641
song: crosstown traffic
song length: 146 seconds
possible HOPOs on expert: 157
average HOPOs hit per second: 1.075
song: saturday night's alright for fighting
song length: 305 seconds
possible HOPOs on expert: need link for guitar chart
average HOPOs hit per second: need link for guitar chart
song: something bigger, something brighter
song length: 315
possible HOPOs on expert: 671
average HOPOs hit per second: 2.130
song length: 578 seconds
possible HOPOs on expert: 1169
average HOPOs hit per second: 2.022
song length: 212 seconds
possible HOPOs on expert: 226
average HOPOs hit per second: 1.066
song: rainbow in the dark
song length: 255 seconds
possible HOPOs on expert: 683
average HOPOs hit per second: 2.678
- this was manually counted, so there may be SLIGHT errors
- i did not base time on the in game information, so it might be slightly off
- just because an average HOPO p/s count is higher does not mean its a better song for the achievement.
Firstly, thanks to the guys who have started to work on the ratios for these songs. I appreciate it greatly ;)
I will work on these myself, but obviously it's gonna take some work. I'm not going to be adding adding any more songs to the list until I can get on top of adding the ratios so give it some time. Any help in this will be appreciated. Speaking of which, can anyone help me with the ratios for 'Modern Mathmatics' and 'Tha Shnizit' as I do not own either of those songs? Thanks in advance.
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