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Method 06-15-2011 08:05 PM

Official Bitching Thread
 
Apparently this game needs one. Post your gripes and complaints in this thread. Users that make new threads to bitch will have their threads deleted and be punished. Enjoy complaining :)

UltimateTT66 06-15-2011 08:17 PM

super slow load times...

gazmaster1 06-15-2011 08:44 PM

people who moan the game is dated....thats the whole point but there is one genuine issue I have and that is the slow texture loading after re-loading a game, only a small gripe.

Gackt 06-15-2011 09:12 PM

Not much to say about this game. The loading is slow and game is not very fun. Don't waste your money.

Capt_Ron CFH 01 06-15-2011 09:16 PM

Not enough sharks!
My BoS edition comic even had smart sharks in it.

The load times are the worst thing and if you're not dying evey 5 mins you don't have to worry about them that much.

DeanBriggz 06-15-2011 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gazmaster1 (Post 4297097)
people who moan the game is dated....thats the whole point.

So DNF being a throwback from the 90s or 'dated' is a good excuse for it to be a low quality, badly put together excuse for a video game? Doom 3 could've pulled the same crap - but they didn't. And because of that the game received a pretty impressive reception.

I do wish to see a sequel to DNF in the future though, and hopefully it'll be all Gearbox's work.

As for the topic.. quite a few things bothered me; long loading screens, two weapon limit, very linear gameplay, very bad level design in some parts and no jet-pack in SP. Seems like a fairly easy 1000g though, if I can get around to doing Insane :).

gazmaster1 06-15-2011 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeanBriggz (Post 4297185)
So DNF being a throwback from the 90s or 'dated' is a good excuse for it to be a low quality, badly put together excuse for a video game? Doom 3 could've pulled the same crap - but they didn't. And because of that the game recieved a pretty impressive reception.

I do wish to see a sequel to DNF in the future though, and hopefully it'll be all Gearbox's work.

As for the topic.. quite a few things bothered me; long loading screens, two weapon limit, very linear gameplay and very bad level design in some parts. Seems like a fairly easy 1000g though, if I can get around to doing Insane :).

there are plenty of low quality of games which are fun to play, im not saying this is a revolution just that it is different, in a way inspired by late 90's FPS gaming and I have found memory's of that particular era. Thus I like the game.

H4mstergeddon 06-15-2011 09:25 PM

Slowpoke
 
The loading times are like 1 min long even thou you install on hard drive.

and yes, the comic had sharks (Syntethically mutated attack robot terrorist SHARKS) where are they ?

but worth the 90 i spent for BoS ed. ABSO-FUCKIN-LUTELY

DarkReign2021 06-15-2011 10:35 PM

Worst part of DNF? The people that sit here and complain about how horrible this game is. After my time spent with the Single Player and Multiplayer components, I can safely say that no matter how dated this game is, it's still 10x more enjoyable than any of these "record selling" Call of Duty games that the whole industry has gone stupid over. (Have fun paying $60 for the same game you get every year. I'll be enjoying my Duke Nukem and looking forward to DLC and sequels.)

hype 06-15-2011 11:36 PM

i don't really have any gripes other than the loading times. i came in this knowing what to expect for many reasons...

1. i've played the other Duke Nukem games, so i know how cumbersome certain shit can be at a point.

2. i didn't expect it to be like "OMFG, nu shewterszsz, mum plx plox can i hasz??!!...gunna b teh gr8tis gayme of teh summersz!!" as some people apparently did.

3. i knew it was more primarily for nostalgic/humor purposes (much like Eat Lead) than an actual serious shooter (i.e. Call of Duty, Halo, etc.)

people are bitching about the most ridiculous shit in video games. i mean if you've followed ANYTHING about this game within the past few fucking years, you'd know it LOOKS average quality for a fucking reason. it wasn't MEANT to be "mindfucking gotdamn greatest 1080p quality you've ever seen with your shitty eyeballs!!!", yet a nostalgic feel/look reminiscent of the previous Nukem games.

i mean seriously folks...get a fucking grip. if u want uber 2160p graphics, go the fuck outside for a while & get a glimpse of things that actually fucking exist, like PEOPLE & BUILDINGS. 3D enough for u?

as far as everything else, it still feels like the older Nukem games to me, even the fucked up controls, which i DIDN'T expect, but oh well. no me importa. this is what they make GameFly for. if u feel like u wasted $60 on it because u just absolutely fuckin had to have it at launch...tough shit. maybe next time you'll wait for a review, rent it or try other venues before opting to be the very first one of your geek fucking friends to have a game so u can look cool saying u have it...

*edit i'm also guessing 90% of the whiny babies will be age ranged 13-17, maybe 18...so they won't even understand what Nukem's all about & probably bought it/had their mother buy it because other people were talking about it. pretty sure most of the people (notice i said MOST, not ALL) aged 24+ will appreciate it for what it's worth so far, if they in fact enjoyed other Nukem titles.

DOA_Rose 06-16-2011 12:00 AM

rediculous load times, 2-weapon limit, terrible physics in minigames, enemies do WAY too much damage half the time ( maybe I just suck, idk... ), no jet pack, no achievements if cheats are on ( seriously devs, don't make me choose between achievements and FUN )

XVANQU1SHEDX 06-16-2011 01:11 AM

This game takes forever to load and after 12 years of work i think they could have made it a bit....how do i say.....smoother. The game was a massive disappointment at first but after my second play through i started to like it a bit more

Killbomb 06-16-2011 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DOA_Rose (Post 4297510)
rediculous load times, 2-weapon limit, terrible physics in minigames, enemies do WAY too much damage half the time ( maybe I just suck, idk... ), no jet pack, no achievements if cheats are on ( seriously devs, don't make me choose between achievements and FUN )

Why should the devs allow you to get achievements while using cheats? It defeats the whole purpose of them. Then again, maybe you'd like every game to just have 1 achievement worth 1000G for pressing start at the main menu.

nappster187 06-16-2011 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killbomb (Post 4297761)
maybe you'd like every game to just have 1 achievement worth 1000G for pressing start at the main menu.

awesome idea ;)

xtreme2252 06-16-2011 04:07 AM

Queen Bitch. Worst boss design ever. You have to throw grenades on bouncy things, which take 4 seconds to reach her, and then detonate, then shoot her with rockets. Sounds simple enough, BUT-- she's invincible when she attacks, and she can attack as many times as and any time she wants, so you pretty much have to cross your fingers and hope the game even gives you a chance to stun her with the grenades. Then at the end, you have to kill octopus' with your secondary firearm, whatever you brought along since they don't provide you with any non-expolosive weaponry at the boss fight, and you have to be careful after killing one and shooting rockets that one doesn't spawn in and throw it back at you

BurningStickMan 06-16-2011 05:22 AM

Complaints:

1) The 360 port. Urf. What happened there?

2) Duke needs to do more cardio. Sure he bench 600, but he can't run more that a few feet without getting winded.

JuSt BLaZe 06-16-2011 10:50 AM

Graphics, loading times & most of all Octabrains on Insane.

EliteShadowMan 06-16-2011 12:50 PM

Laggy multiplayer unless if your the host, and the horrific loading times.

D00mM4r1n3 06-16-2011 03:16 PM

The enemies take too many shots to kill on Easy mode. There's a review out there where the reviewer says that's "faithful" to the old-school FPS games (Doom, Quake, Duke3d), but it isn't. The old school games you could kill an enemy with a single shotgun blast to the head or 3-4 shots with a pistol. I'll just wait for the PC version to hit the bargain bin and go through it with cheats rather than waste time trying to get achievements on the 360.

EliteShadowMan 06-16-2011 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D00mM4r1n3 (Post 4298704)
The enemies take too many shots to kill on Easy mode. There's a review out there where the reviewer says that's "faithful" to the old-school FPS games (Doom, Quake, Duke3d), but it isn't. The old school games you could kill an enemy with a single shotgun blast to the head or 3-4 shots with a pistol. I'll just wait for the PC version to hit the bargain bin and go through it with cheats rather than waste time trying to get achievements on the 360.

but it's simple achievements, so i don't see where your getting at there. I have 520 in the game and i'm not even done with my first playthrough. If you really can't beat the game on easy then you truly do suck at the game.

jamie1000013 06-16-2011 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hype (Post 4297470)
i don't really have any gripes other than the loading times. i came in this knowing what to expect for many reasons...

1. i've played the other Duke Nukem games, so i know how cumbersome certain shit can be at a point.

2. i didn't expect it to be like "OMFG, nu shewterszsz, mum plx plox can i hasz??!!...gunna b teh gr8tis gayme of teh summersz!!" as some people apparently did.

3. i knew it was more primarily for nostalgic/humor purposes (much like Eat Lead) than an actual serious shooter (i.e. Call of Duty, Halo, etc.)

people are bitching about the most ridiculous shit in video games. i mean if you've followed ANYTHING about this game within the past few fucking years, you'd know it LOOKS average quality for a fucking reason. it wasn't MEANT to be "mindfucking gotdamn greatest 1080p quality you've ever seen with your shitty eyeballs!!!", yet a nostalgic feel/look reminiscent of the previous Nukem games.

i mean seriously folks...get a fucking grip. if u want uber 2160p graphics, go the fuck outside for a while & get a glimpse of things that actually fucking exist, like PEOPLE & BUILDINGS. 3D enough for u?

as far as everything else, it still feels like the older Nukem games to me, even the fucked up controls, which i DIDN'T expect, but oh well. no me importa. this is what they make GameFly for. if u feel like u wasted $60 on it because u just absolutely fuckin had to have it at launch...tough shit. maybe next time you'll wait for a review, rent it or try other venues before opting to be the very first one of your geek fucking friends to have a game so u can look cool saying u have it...

*edit i'm also guessing 90% of the whiny babies will be age ranged 13-17, maybe 18...so they won't even understand what Nukem's all about & probably bought it/had their mother buy it because other people were talking about it. pretty sure most of the people (notice i said MOST, not ALL) aged 24+ will appreciate it for what it's worth so far, if they in fact enjoyed other Nukem titles.

>i came in this knowing what to expect for many reasons...

Hype he came.

Joking aside I'll be picking this up ASAP anything will be less boring then L.A Noire. I just want a game to pass the time for Skyrim or any other big game coming out this year.

Nitnoid 06-16-2011 07:55 PM

Let me start by saying I am 49 years and played the orginal Wolfenstein series, Doom and all the addons and Duke 3d. I played a lot of the single player and even did the modem to modem deathmatches. The ONE glaring problem with Duke Forever is its linearity. The old games had level design but this game follows along the 'modern' shooter line. They missed the mark by doing that. I'm not very far into the game since I also bought Alice and am having more fun with that game than Duke, unfortunately.

I can deal with load times and poor graphics, but this ain't Duke, except for the one liners...

Destro 06-16-2011 08:08 PM

So far only did SP so ill talk later for the MP but this game is EXACTLY what i was expecting of a DUKE exept the insane long loading time(they should have work on that) and maybe the 2 weapon thing(especially since there is an achievement for carrying the pistol all the SP)

But the one liner, the humour, exactly is duke style, im having so much fun with this, i dont understand people say its bad graphic, sure it aint Crysis but its not ugly either, as for the levels and straight forward, yeah it is, but i dont think we needed to get to the old keycard system. Even Duke make a joke about keycard.

Thing is folks, is that you need to see this game as it is, a good humor ride all the way with a lot of fun, not some crazy big game you have been waiting for years.

I don't get all the buzz around Duke 3d, sure it was a lot of fun, but it had nothing so special back then exept a jet pack, graphic where average at best, not much of a story, what made the gun fun was the humor and one line of the Duke, and its still the case here.

If only they could have fix the loading time, i tought it would be in the demo but fix in the complete game

bigbear2face 06-16-2011 11:06 PM

Been watching my brother play it on the PC. I also had recently been watching him play Half-Life 2.

If I knew absolutetly nothing about either game and someone were to say "Tell which one was released this week and which one was released SEVEN YEARS AGO" my answer would be that DNF was the seven year old game...Of course this isn't a very fair comparison since Half-Life 2, despite being seven years old, is still the greatest FPS game ever made.

DNF's game physics look very bad, the graphics are borderline last generation and there is absolutely no innovation. Part of what made Duke Nukem 3D so great was that it was one of the first FPS games to actually let you aim up and down, one of first FPS games to let you jump, one of the first FPS games to let you interact with the environment and it was one of the first video games of any kind to have R-rated dialogue. DNF pretty much just poorly copies various elements featured in every other shooter out there. Not only is the dialogue no longer shocking but they pretty much just rehashed all the old one-liners without coming up with some new ones.

To sit there and excuse the game and developers for this by saying things like "its supposed to be retro" is nothing more then fanboyism (did I just make up a word?) at its worst. Other people say "what did you expect?" Well, I didn't expect the game to be the best thing since sliced bread but I did expect a quality product that is at least up to the current gaming industry standards. Duke Nukem Forever simply is not.

In the end one conclusion can be made: Bulletstorm is the game that Duke Nukem Forever should have been.

shadowrowin 06-17-2011 01:34 AM

I think that the amount of time it took for this game to come out jaded alot of people. Is it the best FPS ever? No. Is it fun? Yes. It wasn't suppost to be the best ever. It has been 13 years since Duke came to a game. Considering the project was ust being thrown about for 12 years before Gearbox got it, I'd say it's pretty damn good, and introduces a new generation to Duke.

That's what the game is. It is Duke. Slow load times? Eh, not as bad as other games load times. Bad controls? Handled fine to me. Other games have much worse control. Bad AI? Not as bad as other games.

The game was not everything under the sun, but it was enjoyable, and I will be replaying it even after I get all the achievements.

AltruismIsDead 06-17-2011 05:23 AM

When the demo came out I really hated it. I mean the very beginning I thought was awesome, then you played the desert stage, which I thought was just terrible at the time.

But how my brother summed it up:

"Hey, I am just happy they actually are FINALLY releasing it"

I was anticipated it with mixed emotions, on one hand I have always been a MASSIVE Duke fan, when I bought a computer originally just for this game alone. I had made maps for Duke 3D, "total conversions/mods" did programming for it, hell I still know a lot of people from the original Duke Nukem 3D community that are still making original Duke 3D maps and mods, and doing stuff with the source code (eDuke) At one point I even played against some of the 3DRealms staff in Dukematches and had people call long distances over their 14.4 modems just to battle me back in the day.

But now getting back to Duke Nukem Forever. After finally playing the full game, I can't understand why these people are bitching. I don't see anything wrong with the graphics, of course I am not running into walls and staring at the textures and counting the pixels.

The story is funny, Dukes one-liners are great, all the interactive stuff you can do is awesome, not to mention the tee-tee's!

While being a huge Duke 3D fan, DNF doesn't quite have all the original charm of it, I still think it's a solid game.

But after talking to my brother and seeing his point, all these new gamers who are into the CoD series, and all these "realistic" FPS games just really aren't into these types of run and gun shoot em up games.

I've come to agree with my brother after playing the full game, AT LEAST THEY RELEASED IT. So it doesn't bother me that people don't enjoy it, MW3 is coming out soon so if they aren't happy with this they can return to playing the same old same old.

xXxDArKtOrNxXx 06-17-2011 05:40 AM

Disappointment: not enough boo bees!!

The game is great though, I'm going to sound like a hipster here but as a 17 year old I'd rather something like this than omg helllipoopter again no not a tacticakcnuke!!!1!! I was so happy when I got hAnded the game case that I actually ran out of the store, now I am trying to find a legit version of duke nukem for my pc

Tenlo 06-17-2011 08:38 AM

I'm glad I'm not the only one whose actually enjoying this game. I think its one of those things that you either love or hate,but I have to admit I'm disappointed in all the reviews out there. When you look at the average user given score for DNF its quite high (TA has 3.9, X360a has 77%) and yet every reviewer is giving it 50 and below.

What gives? I was hoping that the X360A review would be an light in the dark, but I couldn't disagree with it more. Some glaring mistakes is saying that interacting with objects does nothing and doesn't mention they actually help your health bar and also putting the blame on Gearbox when they didn't even make the game, it was mainly made by 3D Realms and later TripTych studios.

Another thing a lot of people havent realised is that the game will look dated, it was finished in 2009, but due to the legal wrangles between 3D Realms and 2K it couldn't be released, if you don't believe me when you finish the game check the developers timeline in the extras section.

Aye the game has bad loading times and isn't pretty, but neither is Deadly Premonition and I always hear people raving about that game. I'm not suprised the PR guy got pissed off with the reviews, so am I. At least i can comfort myself with the fact that although the pros are being unnecessarily harsh, the community are realising what a fun game it really is!

York82 06-17-2011 04:08 PM

Tbh insane difficulty is such a piece of donkeyshit! Even CoD on veteran is more fun and fair.....
Im at the parth with the car in the middle on Lady Killer: Part 2 where you have to fight those aliens + beserker pigs. After killing many of them, somehow 2 pigs manage to kill me within 2 secs lol thx
Aiming with the shotty while getting hit isnt that cool :(
Is there any trick on this part? I got full ego but the pigs just hit too much.
Playing on easy and collecting items was pretty fun (even with that shit looking grpahic), but getting smashed by such ugly pixes over and over again is just a waste of time.

Hoborg 06-17-2011 05:18 PM

It's so bad and extremely hard I'm trading it in. With a measly score of <200. I don't care though, I look forward Alice instead.


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