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RexDarr 10-18-2011 10:17 PM

E-String Note Problems
 
I'm using a Danelectro Dano Pro guitar and for what ever reason every time I play notes on the low E string it's flat by a half note (for you non-guitar players that's one fret). Anyone else having this problem? Any way to resolve it?

ejbadger 10-19-2011 01:39 AM

tune it down that half note?

RexDarr 10-19-2011 03:56 AM

I would have to tune it up but when I actually tune through a normal tuner (I have both a BOSS chromatic hand-held tuner & a BOSS TU-3 pedal tuner) and both say it's perfectly tuned to E.
If I was to tune it half a step up the string would break. There's a lot of tension on that string right now.

KvnRnld 10-19-2011 04:59 AM

I'm having the same problem. Could it be due to our guitars being shorter scale than a LP? I don't know much about these things. :)

KvnRnld 10-19-2011 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ejbadger (Post 4600588)
tune it down that half note?


In order to do this you would have to tune it to the games tuner (it makes you do this before you can proceed to the song,) then pause and tune down before playing every time. Obviously there's a problem, as I saw that someone on my buddy list also had this game, so I asked if he had any problems with the "top" (really the bottom ;)) string. He said he was going through the same thing. Is a patch now necessary?

ItsTimmah 10-19-2011 05:22 AM

Plug your guitar into your chromatic tuner and make sure that when you play fretted notes that your getting the right pitch. You might need to adjust the truss rod if your not getting correct pitches. If that is the case i suggest you take it to a repair shop if you don't have experience adjusting it.

KvnRnld 10-19-2011 05:38 AM

It's starting to look like it's a problem w/ the game. I would suggest against costly repairs for now.

BadAssNipples 10-19-2011 01:55 PM

When you tune your guitar check the tuning when you hold the 12th fret, if it's right on E as well then your guitar should be fine. That way you will know if it's the game or not.

karmamachine 10-19-2011 02:36 PM

i had E string problems with the guitar a owned previous to getting the game (while using it in the game), but with the les paul junior that came with the game i've not had any problems yet

if its a game issue they will probably release a patch for other guitars... but you should try adjusting the truss rod in the neck or changing strings in the mean time... also as someone else stated if the 12th fret isn't an E when the open string is E then your probably screwed with that guitar

also use the game tuner and not an external tuner as the game is tuned to it

KvnRnld 10-19-2011 02:39 PM

Checked both of my guitars as you suggested, and they are dead-on. Do you know if scale length could possibly make a difference?

KvnRnld 10-19-2011 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by karmamachine (Post 4602132)
with the les paul junior that came with the game i've not had any problems yet

LPs tend to have a longer scale, this game was obviously designed w/ those in mind, as that's the pack-in they chose. that's why I'm wondering if that could be the issue. As for the in-game tuner, the game won't let you start a song unless you are in tune with it, but it seems to be pretty accurate anyways. I double checked w/ a chromatic tuner and it was pretty much spot-on.

KvnRnld 10-19-2011 03:33 PM

I called the customer support # on the booklet and informed them of the problem that I've been having and they said that it was the first they'd heard of it. I would suggest that anyone else having this problem call them as well. The problem for me is pretty much isolated to the 3 or 4 lower notes on low E . This is making it close to impossible to play Ducks as a majority seem to be on the 3rd fret @ the beginning.

rcscruff 10-19-2011 05:24 PM

Do you have any fret buzz on that string? It could be related to it picking up harmonics from the higher frets that the string is buzzing against.

KvnRnld 10-19-2011 05:59 PM

I'm using 2 Hagstroms a Super Swede and a F300. No fret buzz on either. both have a 25.5 neck scale. I guess I had it backwards because after some research I've learned that a LP jr. has a 24.75 scale, I was under the impression that all LPs were 27". I have no Idea whether the scale could make a difference within the game, as I really don't know much about that, but It's the only thing I can think of after trying pretty much everything else. If somebody in the know could verify if this could be the problem or not please let me know. If I had access to a different guitar I could test it out, but both my guitars are the same scale.

This problem has made playing "Vaseline" a living hell! lol.

rcscruff 10-19-2011 06:30 PM

I'm stumped as to why you are having problems. I played for about 2 hours with no problems. I don't see why scale should have any effect at all. I used a LP last night which has the 24.75" scale. I'll give my strat (25.5") a try tonight and check in later.

KvnRnld 10-19-2011 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcscruff (Post 4602851)
I'm stumped as to why you are having problems. I played for about 2 hours with no problems. I don't see why scale should have any effect at all. I used a LP last night which has the 24.75" scale. I'll give my strat (25.5") a try tonight and check in later.


Cool, thanks!

Tarento 10-19-2011 07:16 PM

Hey, I just tuned down my E string a little bit, and it's working like a BEAUTY. The best thing is that Rocksmith still senses it as perfectly in tune.

KvnRnld 10-19-2011 08:10 PM

I just di the same thing. Tuned it down just a tad after the tuner portion, and it seems to work fine now. Thanks for the tip.

RexDarr 10-20-2011 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KvnRnld (Post 4603181)
I just di the same thing. Tuned it down just a tad after the tuner portion, and it seems to work fine now. Thanks for the tip.

How much did you tune down?

DingoAce10 10-20-2011 02:08 PM

Just played the game for the first time last night and noticed the exact same thing. Thought it was me!
I am a newb (been only playing for about 3 months) so half of the stuff you guys are saying is greek to me (27'' scale vs 24.75...), but am interested in the fix that was talked about (tuning down the E string). Was it just trial and error?
When the game works I like it a lot and can see how it would benefit me. Not sure about you more experienced players though.
Hope they patch it soon, but if a simple tuning hack works I am ok with that for now.

rcscruff 10-20-2011 02:12 PM

No problem with the strat and 25.5 scale. Based on the number of people jumping into this thread, its apparently not an isolated problem, but I suspect it is not related to the scale of the guitar.

KvnRnld 10-20-2011 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RexDarr (Post 4603935)
How much did you tune down?


just barely, but I also switched the coil tap to a sifferent position @ the same time so that could have helped too.

DingoAce10 10-20-2011 03:17 PM

Found this post over on GameSpot.com. Some guys seem to think that it is an intonation issue with individual guitars. btw didn't know what that meant till I saw the youtube video "How to intonate your guitar". Seems plausible and I can almost guarantee that my guitar is off. Going to try to fix it up tonight:
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/puzzle/r...topics%3Btitle

karmamachine 10-20-2011 03:27 PM

i unlocked the tetris type mini game (super slider?) and everything is fine except it doesn't pickup any slides from the E string... i can't move the Red blocks at all... the rest are fine... its pretty frustrating since i can't get a decent score without moving the red blocks

Kamen Rider 10-20-2011 04:14 PM

I'm having same issue on the Low E. I know I am going to get laughed at for this, but I am using the Power Gig guitar. I'm not sure whether its an isolated issue or not, I don't think it is. It's making it hard to play any songs, and since I don't have an external tuner, its really bothersome.

The last thing I want is to learn to play the wrong way because of an issue like this.

JoeK00l 10-20-2011 08:49 PM

No issues at all
 
Neither on of my Les Paul's or my Fender seem to have this issue...

evilmikehoo 10-21-2011 01:55 PM

I have this same issue with the E string. Drop D is really bad and I gotta strike the E several times in order to get it to fire in the duck hunt game. Also, in the riff challenge, the A sometimes won't register unless I play the D!! Very disappointing, especially when ya combine the latency issue, the setlist....and the price!!

KvnRnld 10-21-2011 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DingoAce10 (Post 4605620)
Found this post over on GameSpot.com. Some guys seem to think that it is an intonation issue with individual guitars.


Isn't checking that the note matches @ the 12th fret basically checking the intonation?

KvnRnld 10-21-2011 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilmikehoo (Post 4608709)
I have this same issue with the E string. Drop D is really bad and I gotta strike the E several times in order to get it to fire in the duck hunt game. Also, in the riff challenge, the A sometimes won't register unless I play the D!! Very disappointing, especially when ya combine the latency issue, the setlist....and the price!!



Anyone experiencing this problem PLEASE call the customer support number on the back of the booklet! The more they hear about this, the closer we will get to finding out the actual cause, and maybe get a patch. I have the problem somewhat solved on my guitar that's tuned to standard by tuning down the low e slightly after the tuner accepts it, but drop-d is hell and I'm stuck @ the part where 2 or 3 of the songs are in drop-d because of this issue.

ItsTimmah 10-21-2011 11:06 PM

I had this issue before, but just retuned with my chromatic tuner. During gameplay i noticed that when i went from drop d back to standard tuning using the in game tuner that it did a pretty sloppy job. So i don't trust the in game tuner anymore, I'll always tune with my chromatic and let the in game tuner "verify" that i'm in tune. As long as your tuner is set to 440Hz you should be fine.
Also most guitars come standard with .09-.42 gauge strings. I'm guessing that some of you might use thicker gauge strings on your guitars and never had your guitar properly setup for those. Thicker strings = more tension on the neck, which can cause you to be out of pitch as you go down the neck. Also thicker strings could cause some fret buzz on your low E if the guitar wasn't designed for it (might need to file some frets down).


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