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Drucifer82 11-25-2011 08:06 AM

Robin Challenge Guide (Videos)
 
Here it is at long last! Robin's challenge guide! Before we get to the vids I have a few notes about Robin's gameplay.

Robin (at least in my own experience) seems to have problems with triple counters. Every time I've tried to manage one I've had a 10% success rate. I also discovered (after recording his combat challenges) that you can use his quickfire Snap Flash (:ltbut:+:bbut:)in lieu of a counter (:ybut:). I recorded myself playing Joker's Carnival with him and did it in that video around the 5:38 marker and right at the end of the vid.

With Robin's Lost City map, you will have a far greater rate of success on the Fire Extinguisher medal if you take out the two enemies with thermal scanners first.

I'm personally not a fan of the Freight Train map. I struggle with seeing who I'm targeting in the side scroller format. Some seem to like it, though.


Just like Nightwing, Robin has extra maps and they are listed in their respective categories. You will find them in the Downloaded Maps section of the game.


Moves List:

There are standard attacks for all characters (such as Special Combo Takedown) so this will only apply to moves specific to Robin.

Special Combo Staff Sweep: :xbut:+:abut:
Special Combo Knockdown Throw: :bbut:+:abut:
Combo Shuriken: Tap :ltbut:
Quickfire Explosive Gel: :ltbut:+:xbut:
Quickfire Zip Kick: :ltbut:+:ybut:
Quickfire Snap Flash: :ltbut:+:bbut:
Quickfire Bullet Shield: :rtbut:+:rtbut:



COMBAT CHALLENGES


Challenge 1 - Blind Justice




Challenge 2 - Survival of the Fittest



Challenge 3 - Rooftop Rumble



Challenge 4 - Hell's Gate



Challenge 5 - Funhouse Brawl



Challenge 6 - Prison Riot



Challenge 7 - Blind Justice EXTREME



Challenge 8 - Survival of the Fittest EXTREME



Challenge 9 - Rooftop Rumble EXTREME



Challenge 10 - Hell's Gate EXTREME



Challenge 11 - Funhouse Brawl EXTREME



Challenge 12 - Prison Riot EXTREME



Challenge 13 - Freight Train




PREDATOR CHALLENGES


Challenge 1 - Meltdown Mayhem




Challenge 2 - Police Brutality



Challenge 3 - Natural Selection



Challenge 4 - End Of The Line



Challenge 5 - Lost City



Challenge 6 - Top Of The World



Challenge 7 - Meltdown Mayhem EXTREME



Challenge 8 - Police Brutality EXTREME



Challenge 9 - Natural Selection EXTREME



Challenge 10 - End Of The Line EXTREME



Challenge 11 - Lost City EXTREME



Challenge 12 - Top Of The World EXTREME



Challenge 13 - Black Mask



BONUS VIDEO

Joker's Carnival




My times are always improving. If anyone is interested in watching my speed runs, they may do so HERE.

Drucifer82 11-25-2011 08:07 AM

Robin's campaigns are probably the biggest nuisance of his gameplay. These took me the longest to complete of everything.

Also like Nightwing, Robin has 13 campaigns.



CAMPAIGN CHALLENGES


Campaign 1 - Search and Destroy




Campaign 2 - Street Justice



Campaign 3 - Offensive Maneuvers



Campaign 4 - City Invader



Campaign 5 - Midnight Assault



Campaign 6 - Hostile Takeover



Campaign 7 - Double Jeopardy



Campaign 8 - Ruthless Vengeance



Campaign 9 - Combat Expert



Campaign 10 - Predator Expert



Campaign 11 - Combat Master



Campaign 12 - Predator Master



Campaign 13 - Black Mask Campaign


Celestial Being 11-25-2011 04:13 PM

The predator maps helped out while i was doing the campaign challenges. thanks a lot. finally got a 1250G on this game.

danksch 11-27-2011 07:50 PM

Robin's gameplay is giving me a headache...I'm coming from Nightwing right now, and Robin is SO inferior. No ranged effectiveness whatsoever.

Drucifer82 11-27-2011 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by danksch (Post 4719490)
Robin's gameplay is giving me a headache...I'm coming from Nightwing right now, and Robin is SO inferior. No ranged effectiveness whatsoever.

I was playing a lot with Nightwing before playing Robin, too and it was kind of a headache, but having adjusted I can say that while Robin doesn't quite have all the perks Nightwing does he's still a pretty good character.

I took first place with him on TOTW Extreme the other day and have significantly reduced the completion times on a lot of his pred maps. I'll be doing vid updates when possible.

Karumph 11-28-2011 11:53 PM

I started playing as Robin after finishing Catwoman's medals, so he was a godsend compared to her. You're saying Nightwing plays Predator mode better than Robin? Now I'm looking forward to finishing up my last achievements. Thanks again for your guides.

Drucifer82 11-29-2011 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Karumph (Post 4722591)
I started playing as Robin after finishing Catwoman's medals, so he was a godsend compared to her. You're saying Nightwing plays Predator mode better than Robin? Now I'm looking forward to finishing up my last achievements. Thanks again for your guides.

I can't necessarily say that one is better than the other. I can say after playing so many hours as Nightwing I had trouble adjusting to Robin.

I am going to have to update this guide because I have significantly reduced my run times on a lot of his maps.

LordOdadjian 11-29-2011 01:29 AM

Hey Drucifer, as always, thanks for all your guides. They've been extremely helpful for me. Right now I'm only one Catwoman campaign challenge away from getting 1140/1140 in the game (not counting Calendar Man or DLC).

I love completing games but at the same time I've went through tons of grief trying to get these Catwoman medals. How would you say the difficulty of the Robin/Nightwing challenges compares with Catwoman's challenges? Would you say that going through Catwoman's challenges is a good preparation and would maybe make Robin and Nightwing a breeze for me?

If they are still godly difficult then I'll probably just stay away for now, take a break from Arkham, and wait for a price drop.

Drucifer82 11-29-2011 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by LordOdadjian (Post 4722782)
Hey Drucifer, as always, thanks for all your guides. They've been extremely helpful for me. Right now I'm only one Catwoman campaign challenge away from getting 1140/1140 in the game (not counting Calendar Man or DLC).

I love completing games but at the same time I've went through tons of grief trying to get these Catwoman medals. How would you say the difficulty of the Robin/Nightwing challenges compares with Catwoman's challenges? Would you say that going through Catwoman's challenges is a good preparation and would maybe make Robin and Nightwing a breeze for me?

If they are still godly difficult then I'll probably just stay away for now, take a break from Arkham, and wait for a price drop.


I had far less trouble with Nightwing and Robin, though I have yet to go back and refine my techniques with Catwoman like I did with Robin and Nightwing. I'm sure there are simpler ways of doing her challenges.

To answer your question, I would go ahead and purchase Nightwing and Robin as you will likely be able to complete their challenges far easier than Catwoman's. Nightwing is an interesting hybrid of her speed and Batman's strength, whereas Robin is extremely similar to Batman though unique enough to be his own character.

LordOdadjian 11-30-2011 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Drucifer82 (Post 4723222)
I had far less trouble with Nightwing and Robin, though I have yet to go back and refine my techniques with Catwoman like I did with Robin and Nightwing. I'm sure there are simpler ways of doing her challenges.

To answer your question, I would go ahead and purchase Nightwing and Robin as you will likely be able to complete their challenges far easier than Catwoman's. Nightwing is an interesting hybrid of her speed and Batman's strength, whereas Robin is extremely similar to Batman though unique enough to be his own character.

Thanks for the post. I bought both DLC bundles yesterday and I've been very impressed. It's so refreshing to see how differently both characters play when compared to Catwoman and Batman. A couple of things I love about the DLC:

1) 4 new trophies
2) You can select animated/cartoonish skins for both Nightwin and Robin in challenge mode!
3) Robin has a smoke pellet and Nightwing has a disruptor. God yes! That should make challenges a ton easier than Catwoman. =p

LordOdadjian 12-01-2011 02:07 AM

I have two questions about the DLC:

How do I use Robin's snap flash? I equip it but there's no option to use it in predator mode. Even the LT+B quick fire doesn't seem to do anything.

And how does Nightwing's detective vision work?

VyperJMc 12-01-2011 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by LordOdadjian (Post 4727888)
I have two questions about the DLC:

How do I use Robin's snap flash? I equip it but there's no option to use it in predator mode. Even the LT+B quick fire doesn't seem to do anything.

And how does Nightwing's detective vision work?

Robin's Snap Flash is a little explosive you can plant on enemies & detonate whenever you want. You can sneak up & plant it on their backs or while they're stunned on the ground by hitting :ltbut: + :rtbut: when locked on.

Nightwing's detective vision is pretty much bare bones... you can just see enemies & it has a little radar in the upper right corner that shows when enemies are close (pretty useless).

LordOdadjian 12-01-2011 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by VyperJMc (Post 4727928)
Robin's Snap Flash is a little explosive you can plant on enemies & detonate whenever you want. You can sneak up & plant it on their backs or while they're stunned on the ground by hitting :ltbut: + :rtbut: when locked on.

Nightwing's detective vision is pretty much bare bones... you can just see enemies & it has a little radar in the upper right corner that shows when enemies are close (pretty useless).

Thanks!

So Snap Flash can only be used on an enemy? That explains why there was never an option to use it when I tried it - I was trying out all the gadgets in a quiet corner.

VyperJMc 12-01-2011 03:28 AM

lol, yeah, gotta put it directly on an enemy.

*pictures Robin in a dark corner playing with his "gadgets"*

Drucifer82 12-01-2011 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by LordOdadjian (Post 4727968)
Thanks!

So Snap Flash can only be used on an enemy? That explains why there was never an option to use it when I tried it - I was trying out all the gadgets in a quiet corner.

If you sneak up to an enemy, you can plant it on them with :ltbut:+:rtbut: or you can quickfire plant it on someone when in a tight spot with :ltbut:+:bbut: (see my End of the Line Extreme vid). It can be detonated with :ltbut:+:rbbut: or :ltbut:+:bbut:.

LordOdadjian 12-02-2011 02:15 AM

Thanks for the replies.

So, are you allowed to plant snap flashes on dead enemies?

Drucifer82 12-02-2011 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by LordOdadjian (Post 4730191)
Thanks for the replies.

So, are you allowed to plant snap flashes on dead enemies?

No, you can't plant Snap Flashes on unconscious enemies. You can, however, make them unconscious after you plant one. ;)

LordOdadjian 12-02-2011 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Drucifer82 (Post 4730249)
No, you can't plant Snap Flashes on unconscious enemies. You can, however, make them unconscious after you plant one. ;)

Lol, I'm having so much trouble trying to Snap Flash the three guys on End of the Line Extreme.

I quit to the main menu and loaded up the campaign menu for Robin. I wanted to scout the campaign challenges that had EOTL Extreme. Thankfully, the two campaigns that have them let you use free medal modifiers.

Woot! So I only have to get that medal once. Now to actually pull it off, heheh.

Drucifer82 12-02-2011 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by LordOdadjian (Post 4730264)
Lol, I'm having so much trouble trying to Snap Flash the three guys on End of the Line Extreme.

I quit to the main menu and loaded up the campaign menu for Robin. I wanted to scout the campaign challenges that had EOTL Extreme. Thankfully, the two campaigns that have them let you use free medal modifiers.

Woot! So I only have to get that medal once. Now to actually pull it off, heheh.

Plant it on the jammer guy then take him out. When the others come to check on him detonate the Snap Flash.

LordOdadjian 12-02-2011 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Drucifer82 (Post 4730363)
Plant it on the jammer guy then take him out. When the others come to check on him detonate the Snap Flash.

I know I know, I looked at your video and tried that method seven-ten times in a row. I just get really unlucky. I follow your exact same route. I travel among the gargoyles until I'm right above the sniper in the alcove. Then I drop down to the train car after the jammer-thug has dropped down off the train car. I wait on the train car until he's moved a bit, and then I drop down off the train car, plant a snap flash on him, go through the tiny tunnel and wait for him to appear on the other side. I throw a smoke pellet from a distance just like in your video, go in and beatdown, and run back to the tiny tunnel.

It just wouldn't work and I wanted to rage. Sometimes I get shot and sometimes I don't (while running away after killing the henchman with a beat down). Sometimes one henchman notices a guy's dead and sometimes nobody does. And when one henchman does notice one guy is dead, sometimes no one follows him, and sometimes only one person follows him. The game seems broken at times to me. I understand they probably thought it was clever to have the A.I. be spontaneous, but if you have a medal like this you need to program the henchmen to be way more predictable. It was so frustrating performing the steps in the above paragraph over and over and over and over again and never getting the result I wanted (which was, quite simply, having three or more henchmen investigating the dead body with the snap flash).

I finally got it to work though and ended up getting the three medals. Phew.

Drucifer82 12-02-2011 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordOdadjian (Post 4730373)
I know I know, I looked at your video and tried that method seven-ten times in a row.

An alternative method (which can be seen in my Predator Master campaign vid) is to plant it and follow him to the floor grates, then do a takedown.

McGoogles 12-05-2011 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drucifer82 (Post 4730380)
An alternative method (which can be seen in my Predator Master campaign vid) is to plant it and follow him to the floor grates, then do a takedown.

That's exactly what I did. Then after that I detonated the Snap-Flash and performed a beatdown on the sniper in the tower/window.

Anyways, once again, thanks for the videos. It definitely helped me for some of the bothersome Predator challenges that involved Explosive Gel (Natural Selection, Police Brutality). I probably would've never figured out how to efficiently plant the Explosive Gel in the appropriate places and detonate it at the correct time.

My last achievement for this game now is Story Teller.

Note: I had lots of trouble with Meltdown Mayhem (Extreme). I have absolutely no idea why. Everytime I followed your method in the video something terrible happened. Performing a double-ledge-takedown was the challenge holding me back; it's tough to perform it when it's a very small map and there is almost always an enemy on the ground that spots you.

Drucifer82 12-05-2011 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McGoogles (Post 4736248)

Note: I had lots of trouble with Meltdown Mayhem (Extreme). I have absolutely no idea why. Everytime I followed your method in the video something terrible happened. Performing a double-ledge-takedown was the challenge holding me back; it's tough to perform it when it's a very small map and there is almost always an enemy on the ground that spots you.


The easiest way to do it, that I've found is to immediately backtrack to the first vantage point once you take the sniper down, so long as all the enemies are on the other side of the middle structure, you should be able to get a double ledge takedown when the armored guy and his friend check on the sniper.

You can see what I mean here. How you want to finish it from there is up to you.


BiggD 05-19-2013 05:10 AM

Thanks for the videos! They helped me a ton on Robin's Extreme Predator maps!


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