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DROGTURIST 05-03-2012 11:18 AM

Fucking gold medals.
 
Honestly. What were they thinking with this crap? I just spent like 20 minutes playing the Sled Race over and over so I could get the right buffs from the Inner Board. Finally have my 6x multiplier that won't drop if I get hit and I load up the first level. I kill everything and get the 6x going very fast, and I pick up as much gold as the greedy, bastard AI will let me pick up without them hogging it or standing in the way.

I ended up with LESS of a score than when I just did a 5x multiplier run with no Inner Board upgrades! What the fuck? What the fuck!

My point is, can someone who's further along post some tangible tips on this crap before I fly to wherever Lionhead is and slap somebody?

DROGTURIST 05-03-2012 12:19 PM

Is this game kidding me? I finally met the requirement for gold throughout the level and all I needed was the push from killing the boss...which of course meant that the boss did not drop a single coin whatsoever and I was like 1000 short. God damn it!

XxStuartxX 1990 05-03-2012 12:29 PM

Honestly I'm pretty sure the medals are glitched or something, since I got 39k on Dark Bowerstone (37K required for gold), and I still only have a silver medal floating above level select:confused:.

And I recently checked the leaderboards, and non of the top ten players have the achievement for all gold medals, I know its only been out a day but there is usually atleast a few people who blitz it and complete it crazy quick.

DROGTURIST 05-03-2012 12:33 PM

That's weird about your Bowerstone medal but the reason no one has the achievement is because The Cloud level is still locked. But, yeah, I think you're right in that there's some weird glitching going on here. The rest of the game is joke-easy and obviously meant to be playable by the whole family, so why are the gold medals so ruthlessly harsh and furiously competetive? It doesn't gel with the rest of the game.

Anyway, I found ways to make getting the gold likelier, but it still all boils down to stupid luck.

- Play on Challenging for a few extra coins. Doesn't seem to be much but it's something.
- Make all your AI characters gun/magic users to keep them away from the loot.
- I feel like either getting permanent invisibility (meaning enemies don't attack you when you run ahead of your gun users) or 6X doesn't matter, but you need one of the two. Both probably guarantees the gold.

Even with that, I just failed a gold by 70 coins. 70 fucking coins, because an AI player randomly got those coins from the boss and I didn't. This is such a stupid achievement.

erico360 05-03-2012 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by XxStuartxX 1990 (Post 5048596)
Honestly I'm pretty sure the medals are glitched or something, since I got 39k on Dark Bowerstone (37K required for gold), and I still only have a silver medal floating above level select:confused:.

And I recently checked the leaderboards, and non of the top ten players have the achievement for all gold medals, I know its only been out a day but there is usually atleast a few people who blitz it and complete it crazy quick.

all levels mean the cloud to which is not available yet.

Anyone tried with 4 controllers?

erico360 05-03-2012 01:30 PM

ok sorry for double post but i found a great tip I have 3 characters with no abilites and i don't roll for abilities for them this gives you more kill coins and bosses take longer so more hit coins.

DROGTURIST 05-03-2012 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by erico360 (Post 5048669)
ok sorry for double post but i found a great tip I have 3 characters with no abilites and i don't roll for abilities for them this gives you more kill coins and bosses take longer so more hit coins.

That's a good idea but it kinda requires you to know it before you start the game... The best setup is to have 3 unleveled gun/magic guys. The problem with your AI buddies isn't that they kill the enemies, but the fact that their melee weapons means they're right on the money when it drops and they end up stealing it.

I'm just going to drop this and wait for someone to come up with a good method or for Lionhead to notice that something's just wrong with the gold medals.

erico360 05-03-2012 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DROGTURIST (Post 5048937)
That's a good idea but it kinda requires you to know it before you start the game... The best setup is to have 3 unleveled gun/magic guys. The problem with your AI buddies isn't that they kill the enemies, but the fact that their melee weapons means they're right on the money when it drops and they end up stealing it.

I'm just going to drop this and wait for someone to come up with a good method or for Lionhead to notice that something's just wrong with the gold medals.

it works really well with me and now im in a gold streak with 5 tosses everytime I get the good abilities every time.

DROGTURIST 05-03-2012 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by erico360 (Post 5048942)
it works really well with me and now im in a gold streak with 5 tosses everytime I get the good abilities every time.

That's nice but you know that's just luck though. Fuck luck achievements.

erico360 05-03-2012 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DROGTURIST (Post 5048966)
That's nice but you know that's just luck though. Fuck luck achievements.

last fable arcade was all about luck

Mr Yac 05-03-2012 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by erico360 (Post 5049000)
last fable arcade was all about luck

but that one was a gambling game, not quite the same comparrison

xhunterrrr 05-03-2012 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DROGTURIST (Post 5048937)
That's a good idea but it kinda requires you to know it before you start the game... The best setup is to have 3 unleveled gun/magic guys. The problem with your AI buddies isn't that they kill the enemies, but the fact that their melee weapons means they're right on the money when it drops and they end up stealing it.

I'm just going to drop this and wait for someone to come up with a good method or for Lionhead to notice that something's just wrong with the gold medals.

You can always reset your characters if you aren't that far with them.

Also, which character would you recommend when going for gold?

IC3 L3G3ND 05-03-2012 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by xhunterrrr (Post 5049041)
You can always reset your characters if you aren't that far with them.

Also, which character would you recommend when going for gold?

I recommend garth, high fire rate when maxxed out, plent of damage and easy to avoid being hit, i racked up 3 times the gold requirement on a few levels now

x Jameooooooooo 05-03-2012 07:13 PM

i cant get the hobbs caves gold :/

IC3 L3G3ND 05-03-2012 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by x Jameooooooooo (Post 5049177)
i cant get the hobbs caves gold :/

Im sure you get like 15k gold for that level if you go the mine cart way

DROGTURIST 05-03-2012 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by IC3 L3G3ND (Post 5049117)
I recommend garth, high fire rate when maxxed out, plent of damage and easy to avoid being hit, i racked up 3 times the gold requirement on a few levels now

Can you post your exact method and help us out, though? I can't even get gold on level 1! Three times I've been 500-70 coins off now and I'm getting sick of trying...but people are posting they're getting DOUBLE the requirement and I'm like WTF :confused:

tripleb2k 05-03-2012 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DROGTURIST (Post 5049191)
Can you post your exact method and help us out, though? I can't even get gold on level 1! Three times I've been 500-70 coins off now and I'm getting sick of trying...but people are posting they're getting DOUBLE the requirement and I'm like WTF :confused:

1) are you using a fully leveled character and using the inter tiles (gold magnet, etc)?
2) are you allies lower levels than you?
3) are you rolling away and keeping your multiplier up?

you've probably considered those 3 options but that's the key. I'm having difficulty too getting some of the later levels but if you can use a maxed character, it will go along way! smash boxes, hit enemies than pick up their coins. no real tricks, just patience and a little luck at first.

xhunterrrr 05-03-2012 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by IC3 L3G3ND (Post 5049117)
I recommend garth, high fire rate when maxxed out, plent of damage and easy to avoid being hit, i racked up 3 times the gold requirement on a few levels now

Garth it is! Thanks!

What do you make your AI characters to help keep them from picking up a lot of coins?

DROGTURIST 05-03-2012 07:31 PM

Yes to all except 2; my allies are not lower level but they're all gun/magic users. My idea is that they can help me kill, as I don't need to kill everything to keep the multiplier up, and them being ranged means they're not close enough to steal the money from me.

Can I reset specific characters? I like my maxed Hero.

IC3 L3G3ND 05-03-2012 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DROGTURIST (Post 5049191)
Can you post your exact method and help us out, though? I can't even get gold on level 1! Three times I've been 500-70 coins off now and I'm getting sick of trying...but people are posting they're getting DOUBLE the requirement and I'm like WTF :confused:

Easy way is play the first level and go for as much gold as possible, after this you should have 3-4 Dice Roll.

You should also have a maxxed out character
You should roll and get some inner board perks
Mainly your looking to not lose you Multiplier if hit and +1 to the multiplier max
Others that will help is the gold automatically coming to you and also being invisible if you miss out on not losing multiplies

I use Garth as main so i rarely get hit anyway.

I use 3 AI characters who do not have any upgrades or at least not many

I recommend going with the boss route on every level except Hobbe Cave as im sure you get more if you finish first which is very easy to do

Also make sure to open all chest and shoot all barrels/presents that provide more gold coins

You should have4-5 dice after every level once you have done your first gold so getting the right stuff on the inner board should be relatively guaranteed

DROGTURIST 05-03-2012 07:38 PM

Thanks guys, but I just don't get it. This isn't my first rodeo in a multiplier/score-based game so, of course, I'm keeping my multiplier up and picking up everything I possibly can, but my best score is still 70 coins short of gold. What piece am I missing to get something insane like double the required score?

I think one of my gun guys is basically maxed out so I could make a run with my gun guy and my 3 least-leveled characters to see if that helps, but I'm thinking something's still missing for me.

IC3 L3G3ND 05-03-2012 07:40 PM

Just for reassurance at least 2 people have maxxed the game now over on TA

IC3 L3G3ND 05-03-2012 07:44 PM

Also you might wanna look at editing your first post and changing the name of the thread, this is a family game and some people might not like to see profanity, although i don't mind it but it's just a thought

DROGTURIST 05-03-2012 07:47 PM

How about difficulty, guys? I'm using challenging but neither of you mentioned it, are you doing normal to make maintaining the multiplier easier?

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Originally Posted by IC3 L3G3ND (Post 5049223)
Also you might wanna look at editing your first post and changing the name of the thread, this is a family game and some people might not like to see profanity, although i don't mind it but it's just a thought

I see where you're coming from but this is pretty much an adult forum. I'd edit if we were on Xbox.com or something where it's more likely that there are kids.

IC3 L3G3ND 05-03-2012 07:53 PM

I have been doing it on normal, some levels don't leave much room for error but others are just busting gold out.

Does challenging even make a difference to the amount of gold?

DROGTURIST 05-03-2012 07:57 PM

I feel like it makes a very minor difference. Like maybe you'll get 1000 more per level. I might be wrong though.

DROGTURIST 05-03-2012 08:11 PM

Yes! Your tips of using a ranged character is what was missing! I have no idea why, but I'm just making several thousand less per stage using Hero even though I'm all up in the enemies face and grabbing every single coin that drops. This time, I used Reaver and three other ranged characters and I got 5000 over the gold limit without even trying.

It's so weird... Getting the 6X going with Reaver took almost twice as long as getting it with Hero, but I'm still finishing level 1 with much more money than I got with Hero. That doesn't make any sense! I'd have 6X by the first bunch of hobbes with Hero, with Reaver it took several mobs longer before I had it, but yeah, I still got the gold with ease. I could even tell from just the coins on the level; it was visibly much more than what would drop when I used Hero. Oh well, I guess I'll just use Reaver now!

tripleb2k 05-03-2012 08:52 PM

Going for kills rather than the coins they drop also helps! You'll earn more by getting kills rather than run into the middle of a fight and pick up coins. I did that for a bit and quickly realized it wasn't paying off.

DROGTURIST 05-03-2012 09:15 PM

Yep, standing back with Garth and killing everything, then going for the gold and not caring if half of it fades away, seems to be the method. I figured out why that doesn't work with a melee character; they can't really instakill! Your AI guys get a few hits in and that confuses the game as to which character's money buff should be active for the kill. Wrecking everything with Garth means more money drops and it means less if you miss a few.

Also, know what's incredibly annoying? Having a guaranteed gold but losing it because one of your AI buddies refused to enter that little circle thing that takes you to the minigame or the boss. I even tried physically pushing his stupid ass into the circle but he just would not go there until my multiplier had dropped to 2x. It's easier to pull the golds off now, but this is still an annoying and stupid achievement!

erico360 05-03-2012 09:19 PM

need the last 3 still. going to to them tommorow this is an easy achievement.


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