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a7x4lyf3 06-06-2012 12:47 AM

Was Ninja Gaiden 3 just a beta or something?
 
Apparently Ninja Gaiden 3 Razor's Edge for the Wii-U, has 6 weapons, 3 types of Ninpo, limb dismemberment, and a new character progression level where you can actually upgrade the strength of your hp? Wtf did Team Ninja do, make us pay 60 dollars for for a friggin beta of a game that's not even going to be on Xbox? The only way this will be even near acceptable is if they add all of this content onto Ninja Gaiden 3 as DLC, which is not gonna happen, so I love how Team Ninja just basically kicked their Xbox 360 and Ps3 fans right in the face...

lll Ryu lll 06-06-2012 01:42 AM

progression level,3 ninpos ? i guess the trials are gonna be easy for them

Foxhound300 06-06-2012 11:30 AM

You know, people probably had the exact same reaction to Ninja Gaiden Black, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, and Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2. This is what Team Ninja has always done, they're like Capcom except they actually wait more than six months to release their "enhanced editions."

Shadow MC 06-06-2012 02:26 PM

Disappointing, but I can't say I'm surprised. It strains the mind that they didn't include all those things as standard let alone offer it as dlc. Also, it does seem as though they did treat NG3 as a beta, listened to all the complaints like lack of weapons, ninpo etc, and then put together a final version for new customers. It's most likely down to profit but it does feel like I'm being treated like a guinea pig for a game to be tested on rather than a valued customer for whom quality should be ensured at the outset.

Surely it would have been easy to determine that people would want more weapons, ninpo and character customisation than what is currently being offered. This leads me to wonder what the hell they are thinking by treating long-term fans of the franchise like this.

There probably was a similar reaction to the previous enhanced Ninja Gaiden games however, those games were still very good even without any enhancements. The quality of NG3 is, however, not as good as its predecessors so more effort should have been put into the game to make up for any of the shortfalls. In my eyes the improvements being made on NG3 for the Wii is disproportionate to the improvements made on past Ninja Gaiden games.

a7x4lyf3 06-08-2012 12:05 AM

Thing that makes me angry is they could easily give Ninja Gaiden 3 a Title Update and make it exactly as Razor's Edge if not at least what Razor's Edge has and the dismemberment, but we all know they're not going to do it...

Foxhound300 06-08-2012 08:49 AM

"Easily" might be overstating it a little. Dismemberment alone would take completely redoing the work with the modeling to give Ryu new animations and give the enemies animations as well for the removal of their limbs, plus new attacks for them to do once they've lost those limbs, and then new dialogue for all the enemies from them reacting to losing their limbs.

Plus they would need to increase the difficulty because lost limbs=OTs being activatable all the time=clearing rooms much faster. Not to mention a complete revamp of the Ninpo system due to the addition of new Ninpos. That's a lot to fit into one patch, and the limb part is anything but easy.

a7x4lyf3 06-08-2012 10:47 PM

Ok well you're right, it may not be very easy, I suppose I just said that out of anger cause I feel incredibly cheated especially since I bought the collector's edition... Feels like I spent 100 dollars on an unfinished game, but the fact of the matter is that they could still make this happen for us, but the other fact is that they are not going too... Because they have completely just said "Ninja Gaiden 3 for xbox and ps3? Lol, fuck that game, we're done with it."

Foxhound300 06-09-2012 04:16 PM

Did you have this same reaction when both Sigma games were released? Especially 2, which was a glitchy and poorly coded mess even after they patched it until almost a year later? (how many of us remember having to play it offline in version 1.0 mode due to the gamebreaking error?) Suddenly these PS3 owners get three new characters, new weapons, new bosses, and more balanced gameplay, while we're left floating in the wind.

a7x4lyf3 06-10-2012 06:05 AM

That's the thing though, Ninja Gaiden 2 for the xbox 360 was just so enjoyable, I had no complaints. Gameplay was fun, there really weren't all that many glitches, the game was good and needed nothing added onto it except co-op would have been nice but besides that I wasn't bothered with sigmas release. 3 however needs some serious work with the bosses lag attacking so you can't stun them, the enemies teleporting out of your izuna drop, we had to freakin pay for our 2 extra weapons and still there's only 3 of them total, only 1 ninpo that can't even kill enemies on master ninja when a lvl 3 void in 2 would clear a whole fucking group in it's path no matter the difficulty, and this really didn't bug me much of course but the limb dismemberment is absent and now present in the same game but for a different console, to top it all off they didn't even give us Dragon's claw and tiger's fang/ Blade of the archfiend. The problem here is when sigma 2 was released there were tiny things it had we didn't, that's fine. The difference here? Razor's Edge has EVERYTHING we don't for the price of a standard game. You see why this is such a big deal now?

Foxhound300 06-10-2012 03:44 PM

Oh I've always seen why this is a big deal. I'm just saying that it's not surprising that it's happening.

a7x4lyf3 06-10-2012 04:20 PM

I'm only surprised about the fact that the Wii-U version is now going to be miles better than the xbox and ps3... I'm surprised that Hayashi chose to cherish Nintendo this time around instead of Sony. I just hope that sometime in the future they title update it... I don't wanna go out and buy a wii-u just to fully enjoy a game I should have been able to 3 months ago. Also the fact that the Ninja Gaiden's no longer have multiple developers and it's just hayashi responsible for them now is no longer an excuse to not give xbox and ps3 the same treatment, Itagaki always made the xbox version and hayashi ps3 and both games were different in ways, but now it's only Hayashi so I don't get why he'd wanna make one game different from the other if you kind of understand what I'm trying to say here even though I explained it very poorly, maybe he just had a change of heart but this is the worst possible time to do so... lol

Foxhound300 06-10-2012 11:43 PM

I'd assume that it's not like it was a big plot where he decided to support the WiiU. it's possible that he updated it base on all the negative press. You may want them to update the game for xbox/ps but the fact is that such a complete title overhaul would call for at least 30 dollars to update. And no one is willing to pay that much for a C+ action game.

OmegaFlip 07-19-2012 09:46 PM

I second Foxhound, there's always going to be a better version, if not an upgraded version of Ninja Gaiden.

Anyways, I've been looking at WiiU's pre-order games and the average price tag is $99 -_-

DOA_Rose 08-28-2012 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by OmegaFlip (Post 5187888)
I second Foxhound, there's always going to be a better version, if not an upgraded version of Ninja Gaiden.

Anyways, I've been looking at WiiU's pre-order games and the average price tag is $99 -_-

I seriously doubt Wii U games will cost more than the usual $60....

OT, Namco Bandai did the same thing with Tales of Vesperia too. Always bugs me when game companies try to make us buy 12 copies of the same game ( and the same goes for DVD/Blu-Ray movies )...

QCteamkill 08-30-2012 02:57 PM

Can't really blame them for trying.

But in this case, NG3 is no Lord of the rings.

AdaWong 09-26-2012 04:43 PM

I hope that Team Ninja at least intends to do an update for the game. Worst case scenario, maybe a new game like NGRE. Though Nintendo owns that version now, we might have to wait for Ninja Gaiden 4.

Snowed 09-26-2012 08:02 PM

Um Nintendo doesn't own Razor's Edge.

The Koffin Kat 10-14-2012 06:26 PM

Maybe they'll make a Sigma for PS3 and the Xbox. Hopefully...

Darkshadowman 10-27-2012 09:14 PM

Wtf
 
you piss ass "team ninja" bastard wtf are you thinking we 360/ps3 fans have been asking u to make new weapons for so long now but u give it too the damn nintendo?? have u fuking lost it its bad enuff i couldnt get my damn vigoorian flails now we cant have those either like i spent 60 dollars on ng3 and it sucked im a huge fan of 1 and 2 but 3 is garbage u dissapointd alot of people u should just kept your ideas youre more like team rookie i coulda craped out a beta game so congratulations douchebags

Dark Anaconda 10-28-2012 12:56 PM

That what happens when you fire the Original Creator ,the legendary Tomunobu Itagaki....


Team Ninja made a good job with Dead or Alive 5 ,because they listened to the fans this time.

With NG3 they didn`t listened to the fans, look at this:

http://n4g.com/news/1090586/team-nin...nja-gaiden-iii


Team Ninja you made a mistake with not listening to the Ninja Gaiden Fans...but you even dissapoint us more with making Razors Edge only for Nintendo...thats so fucking stupid.

You could have made a Sigma Edition of this game for all 3 consoles.

The reason why they probably didnt`t release it on Xbox360 and PS3 is, because most of the people are dissappointed and maybe they didn`t sell so much copies as they expected...

Nintendo Players don`t know about Ninja Gaiden 3 so they couldn`t be dissappointed ( i mean they couldn`t play it before) , maybe thats why they released it for Nintendo.

They were probably like: " Ok we dissappointed XBox360 and PS3 players but we can suprise Nintendo players with this awesome game (Razors Edge), they would buy it because we learned from our mistakes and made a better version of this game"

I don`t know man...i just know that i am pretty pissed off that XBox360 and PS3 Players don`t get anything but the beta Version of this game.

xCRIMINALMINDSx 11-07-2012 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a7x4lyf3 (Post 5108228)
Apparently Ninja Gaiden 3 Razor's Edge for the Wii-U, has 6 weapons, 3 types of Ninpo, limb dismemberment, and a new character progression level where you can actually upgrade the strength of your hp? Wtf did Team Ninja do, make us pay 60 dollars for for a friggin beta of a game that's not even going to be on Xbox? The only way this will be even near acceptable is if they add all of this content onto Ninja Gaiden 3 as DLC, which is not gonna happen, so I love how Team Ninja just basically kicked their Xbox 360 and Ps3 fans right in the face...

I was gutted when i played 3 such a waste i only played the demo but i see wht other people had put turned me rite off

Kallindril 12-16-2012 09:58 AM

Calling the 360/PS3 version of NG3 a beta test is being charitable. The Wii U version of NG3 Razor's Edge actually looks quite good, but I'm not buying a Wii U just for that, that's ridiculous.

If they put out a NG3 Sigma version for the 360 that looks like Razor's Edge, with a GOOD fighting system, Ayane, an upgrade system, multiple weapons, delimbing, OTs and UTs, and ditches the stupid QTEs (or at least has WAY less of them), I'd get that. If it doesn't hit my complete checklist that's OK but that's the kind of upgrade it would take.

I'm not going to keep myself from enjoying a NG3 on the 360 just out of spite about the original release. But I will definitely be more cautious about any future NG series release, and wait for it to be released to see how it plays first before getting it. They missed badly with the original NG3 release. I had some doubts which is why I didn't pre-order the Collector's edition, but it wasn't even worth getting the normal one. Halfway through the game, I turned on Hero mode not because it was difficult but because I just wanted to finish with it as fast as possible and never look at it again.

Dark Anaconda 12-22-2012 06:06 PM

Now Razors Edge will also have Kasumi , look at that:



I would be realy pissed off, if they don`t make a Sigma Edition for the PS3 and Xbox360.

Jennifer Aniston 12-22-2012 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Anaconda (Post 5475616)
Now Razors Edge will also have Kasumi

No waay..... I love Kasumi.
They definitely need a Sigma edition for 360/ps3.

PimplyPete 02-11-2013 11:22 AM

This may be old news, but Razor's Edge will be released on the 360/PS3 this April.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/...to-360-and-ps3

I'm really glad I didn't get NG3 when it came out.

Nighthawk1024 02-17-2013 09:30 PM

I wonder if there's going to be a new separate list of achievements like how batman had two different ones when they released the game of the year edition.

Dark Anaconda 03-08-2013 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nighthawk1024 (Post 5582986)
I wonder if there's going to be a new separate list of achievements like how batman had two different ones when they released the game of the year edition.


Yeah i want to know that too, 1240G`s doesn`t look that good, i want something with like 1250G`s.

There are 30 more trials ,so maybe we can get more achievements in Razor`s Edge.


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