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chasedabigbase 07-15-2012 07:45 PM

Foxiest of the hounds
 
Does tripping mines or panacea people turning hostile block off getting the achievement at the end? I tripped one emp on my current playthrough but all there was near by was a camera and nothing went hostile, and last playthrough I never got caught but I did walk through a laser wire but it only alerted the guards not hostiled them, guess it was still bad, what about explosive mines? And finally can I just run through panchea, it was a bitch trying to sneak by them all especially on the catwalk (I did manage it though)

Satyr 07-29-2012 01:26 PM

If you don't trigger any alarms you're fine. Guards can be alarmed and even hostile just don't let them trigger the alarm system. If they do just reload last save. Be careful with cameras/turrets and try not to fail when hacking safes/computers/doors because some will trigger the alarms.
About Panchea, I ran through it and still got the achievement.
Cheers

McGoogles 08-05-2012 07:27 AM

I recently unlocked 'Foxiest of Hounds' and this is what I discovered:

- Cameras can become suspicious but NOT hostile (green is regular; yellow is suspicious; red is hostile)
- Robots can go hostile if they don't alert other guards or sound the alarm
- Tripping mines does not void the achievement so long as it doesn't alert other guards (be wary of frag mines)
- The crazy people on Panchea can go hostile because they are incapable of enabling the alarm (they just want to kill people :))
- Certain parts of the game where the enemies are supposed to be hostile (Saving Faridah, etc.) do not affect the achievement.

Funny thing is, I didn't even intend on getting 'Foxiest of Hounds'; I was working on my 'Doctorate' playthrough (reading all experience books) and was always taking the stealthy approach in preparation for the next playthrough on the hardest difficulty. After acquiring my last Ebook, I figured I might as well finish the game to get the Pacifist achievement and possibly 'Foxiest of Hounds' and I luckily got them both.

fohf 09-05-2012 07:38 PM

I just got this achievement yesterday and the ONLY thing that counts are alarms set off by soldiers using control panels on the wall (they have hand icons on them), failing hacks, and by cameras spotting you.

I did this on my 2nd playthrough let me explain the things I did which still allowed me to get the achievement:

I murdered EVERYONE. Every mofo I came across. Seriously, doesn't matter if they spotted me and went hostile as long as I killed them before they touched the alarm on the wall. Doesn't matter if one of them came across a body and were "alerted" I killed them as well.

Many cameras spotted me and were "suspicious" but they didn't set off the alarm. If they turned red (or spotted a corpse) I would reload, but otherwise I moved on.

Turrets spotted me and beeped, but didn't raise the alarms.

I threw many EMP grenades at cameras and turrets to destroy them.

I disconnected a hack if I felt I was going to fail it. (failing a hack will set off the alarm).

I almost never got the "Smooth Operator" bonus.

I killed all the crazy people at Panchea.

I also triggered a lot of frag mines and threw frag grenades whenever I wanted.

davhuit 09-05-2012 11:29 PM

About the pacifist one, I think the best way to be sure to get it is to no interact with ennemies at all (except boss) which mean to not kill them or even knock them (if you don't knock any enemy, you are sure to not have someone killed because of a bug).

As long as you don't do "Foxiest of the hounds" and "Paficist" as the same time, might be pretty easy in easy mode (just need to use the coating function to avoid most of the ennemies without caring about alarms as long as you don't die) and do the contrary for "Foxiest of the hounds" (take any time needed and reload when you hear an alarm).

Wibbletaru 09-06-2012 02:09 AM

Apologize if this was mentioned before, but if I failed a hack in an area but didn't hear alarms go off.

Specifically, in the first level after the prologue where you come across an office with 7-8 desktops, I failed one after I took out all the guards in the area.

The computer locked me out but I didn't remember see the radar indicate that it set off any alarm.

Would this fail the Foxiest of the Hounds achievement?

McGoogles 09-06-2012 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wibbletaru (Post 5259489)
Apologize if this was mentioned before, but if I failed a hack in an area but didn't hear alarms go off.

Specifically, in the first level after the prologue where you come across an office with 7-8 desktops, I failed one after I took out all the guards in the area.

The computer locked me out but I didn't remember see the radar indicate that it set off any alarm.

Would this fail the Foxiest of the Hounds achievement?

As long as no alarms were sounded or any additional guards were sent to investigate then you should be safe. If I were you I would've immediately reloaded a previous save just in case. If you're far enough in the game, though, then just keep going and see if it unlocks at the end.

davhuit 09-26-2012 09:38 AM

I can confirm that having ennemies sometime goes hostile don't fail the achievement.

I followed this guide :
And contrary to this guy, I didn't get as often as him the smooth operator bonus which made me though I had failed the achievement (I was doing the e-books, hard difficulty and pacifist at the same time and said to myself I would do another playthrough without doing the sidequests in easy mode to get "Foxiest of the hounds" but I got it when I finished the game (I heard an alarm once but I reloaded the game and never failed any computers hacks).

So I don't think the smooth operator is really needed, you can probably never get it and still get the achievement. The achievement description just talks about alarm, not the other things.

Kimitchiii 11-04-2012 12:55 AM

Hey I'm also doing the game for the first time and I've got a question...if a turret or enemy goes hostile for a split of a sec, for instance, the soldier sometimes, when I shoot him with the electric pistol goes hostile for a split of a sec before being knocked out, or the turret, while Jensen moves from a cover to another one, goes hostile for a split of a sec but doesn't cause any alarm to go off or the soldiers to go on a hunt...can it void the achievement ?

Thanks.

Z3R0 S1X 11-08-2012 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimitchiii (Post 5371718)
Hey I'm also doing the game for the first time and I've got a question...if a turret or enemy goes hostile for a split of a sec, for instance, the soldier sometimes, when I shoot him with the electric pistol goes hostile for a split of a sec before being knocked out, or the turret, while Jensen moves from a cover to another one, goes hostile for a split of a sec but doesn't cause any alarm to go off or the soldiers to go on a hunt...can it void the achievement ?

Enemies can go hostle so long as they don't set off an alarm. The achievement is void if a turrent goes hostle or a camera turns red on you so reload a save. Also if you fail a hack it will set off an alarm so reload a save even if it's a hack that doesn't set off an alarm like in Jenson's office building just to be safe.

Scorpion485 12-01-2012 05:23 AM

As I was traveling up the elevator and that guy who gives you credits was talking to me and the status randomly said alarmed. I reloaded it and it did the same thing. Is that supposed to happen? Should I worry about it voiding the achievement? Also, just made it up to the boss fight in Montreal. When she saw me, it turned hostile. I'm assuming this is okay since it's next to impossible not to be seen since that's kind of how you beat her.

Syntricate 12-01-2012 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McGoogles (Post 5212244)
I recently unlocked 'Foxiest of Hounds' and this is what I discovered:

- Cameras can become suspicious but NOT hostile (green is regular; yellow is suspicious; red is hostile)
- Robots can go hostile if they don't alert other guards or sound the alarm
- Tripping mines does not void the achievement so long as it doesn't alert other guards (be wary of frag mines)
- The crazy people on Panchea can go hostile because they are incapable of enabling the alarm (they just want to kill people :))
- Certain parts of the game where the enemies are supposed to be hostile (Saving Faridah, etc.) do not affect the achievement.

Funny thing is, I didn't even intend on getting 'Foxiest of Hounds'; I was working on my 'Doctorate' playthrough (reading all experience books) and was always taking the stealthy approach in preparation for the next playthrough on the hardest difficulty. After acquiring my last Ebook, I figured I might as well finish the game to get the Pacifist achievement and possibly 'Foxiest of Hounds' and I luckily got them both.

I'm so glad I found this!
Now I know what I can and can't do. I love you all! You just made my next few days a little less stressful ahaha!

HughJazz 01-06-2013 09:06 PM

I congratulate all of you who got it. For some reason, I didn't. I had some guards get to alarmed state, but always reloaded if I tripped an alarm or they went hostile. I even hid on the last boss fight and didn't let the crazy people on Panchea go hostile, yet I didn't get it. Next playthrough will be on Hard. Will try for it again, but I am already preparing myself for not 1k'ing this one. I also missed one of the side missions by mistake and am not sure I have the stomach to do the whole thing again on Hard...

blazing hellion 01-13-2013 05:29 AM

Ok, what gives? I followed 2 different guides that BOTH said get "smooth oporater" at x spots and you'll get the achievement. I just did that, didn't even kill a single person nor alerta, and got ghost at every possible spot. I didn't get it D< what gives!?

HoorayItsMike 01-19-2013 03:35 PM

I'm just starting and it's so difficult to tell what an alarm is. I'm going through the manufacturing plant and I just passed a room of 4 guys without ever alarming any of them. Right after I walk through the next door there is a red flashing light and an alarm like sound going off. None of the enemies are alerted, though. Is this an alarm that I set off? Or is this just an alarm that the enemies set off an are ignoring now?

Its the part with the tutorial on security systems.


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