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Vulx 08-01-2012 02:14 PM

Serial Killer IDs
 
The IDs you collect belong to those of historic Serial Killers... Here is a list of the IDs and their real life counterparts.

ID #1 - D. R. Berkowitz
David Berkowitz aka The Son of Sam... killed 6 people.

ID #2 - J. L. Dahmer
Jeffrey Lionel Dahmer... killed 17 people.

ID #3 - E. Theodore Gein
Edward Theodore Gein... killed at least 2 people.

ID #4 - Henry L. Lucas
Henry Lee Lucas... killed at least 11 people.

ID #5 - R.T. Chase
Richard Chase... killed 6 people.

ID #6 - A. C. Wuornos
Aileen Wuornos... killed 7 people.

ID #7 - A. H. DeSalvo
Albert DeSalvo... killed 13 people.

ID #8 - A. H. Fish
Albert Fish... killed at least 4 people.

ID #9 - Karla L. Homolka
Karla Homolka... involved in numerous rapes and murders.

ID #10 - O. Elwood Toole
Ottis Toole... killed at least 6 people.

ID #11 - Robert C. Bundy
Ted Bundy... killed at least 30 people.

ID #12 - K. A. Bianchi
Kenneth Bianchi... killed 12 people.

ID #13 - J. W. Gacy
John Wayne Gacy... killed at least 33 people.

ID #14 - Arthur L. Allen
Arthur Leigh Allen... suspect in the Zodiac murders, killed at least 5 people.

ID #15 - Robert W. Pickton
Robert Pickton... killed at least 6 people.

Nearly all of these killers have inspired movies and other media.

DOPE BOI 08-01-2012 04:55 PM

Yes I did. It didn't really hit me until I seen J.W. Gacy, John Wayne Gacy who buried 30 bodies in his crawl space. When people would complain of the smell, he said it was his septic tank that over flowed.

I wonder who else they have and how they tie into the story.

lancehardy 08-01-2012 08:16 PM

I noticed after the second ID. It said Arthur L. Allen, which I recognized as the prime suspect in the Zodiac killings. This would be kind of creepy to most people but I think its pretty cool haha...wish I remembered whose name was on the first ID though.

Vulx 08-02-2012 03:32 AM

For those curious I updated the post to include all the IDs and their real life counterparts.

Mr Yac 08-02-2012 03:43 AM

such an odd collectible to have in the game, they even included pictures if you look at the IDs through the memories section

GaussianMist 08-02-2012 04:15 AM

Ha, Robert Pickton. He lived about an hour away from where I do. Kidnapped a bunch of junkies from Downtown Vancouver, and fed them to his pigs.

HugTheBear 08-02-2012 04:23 AM

If somebody becomes a serial killer in hopes of getting their name in the DLC, then the media will actually have a point when they blame a video game for violence. :blurp

Mr Yac 08-02-2012 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by HugTheBear (Post 5207506)
If somebody becomes a serial killer in hopes of getting their name in the DLC, then the media will actually have a point when they blame a video game for violence. :blurp

brilliant, i'll now make it my goal to kill 13 people carving a single symbol into each of them D-E-A-D-L-I-G-H-T-D-L-C-?

Vulx 08-02-2012 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Yac (Post 5207544)
brilliant, i'll now make it my goal to kill 13 people carving a single symbol into each of them D-E-A-D-L-I-G-H-T-D-L-C-?

Well... we've already have the BTK Killer... the DLC Killer doesn't seem that farfetched.

Bum Commando 08-02-2012 06:03 AM

Kind of neat but i dont understand their relevance to the game? Are the corpses that you find all the ids on supposed to be the cereal killers themselves? It sure was nice of all those cereal killers to drop dead in a neat linear path along Vancouver.

Chemosh013 08-02-2012 04:01 PM

I agree. It was interesting but I don't get the relevance. I almost wish there was more historical significance there, like in the memories section having a bio and information about the person. Not just a random ID that happens to be a serial killer.

HatredIncarnate 08-03-2012 06:58 AM

Read the diary. the guy is certifiable. maybe its his twisted psyche?

Bum Commando 08-03-2012 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by HatredIncarnate (Post 5209193)
Read the diary. the guy is certifiable. maybe its his twisted psyche?

I read the diary but didn't quite make that connection. Maybe, that would explain how he could justify killing his wife and forgetting about it haha.

Mr Yac 08-03-2012 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by HatredIncarnate (Post 5209193)
Read the diary. the guy is certifiable. maybe its his twisted psyche?

well my original thought was that they were going to pull a full twist on us and there never were any zombies, Randal was just nuts and he killed his wife and kid and created this twisted evil world in his head to justify it all. i figured that was the reason for stuff like the ID's and the fact that his diary is mysteriously scattered all across the world....even in his own dreams....but nope instead it just turns out they wanted to throw in some killer shout outs

ghsbe 08-03-2012 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Yac (Post 5209779)
well my original thought was that they were going to pull a full twist on us and there never were any zombies, Randal was just nuts and he killed his wife and kid and created this twisted evil world in his head to justify it all. i figured that was the reason for stuff like the ID's and the fact that his diary is mysteriously scattered all across the world....even in his own dreams....but nope instead it just turns out they wanted to throw in some killer shout outs

This is better than what they actually did.

bs000 08-03-2012 08:41 PM

ďALL the IDs belong to famous serial killers. Itís a private joke about madness and how serial killers may be mostly the most prepared to survive a zombie outbreak.Ē

http://www.gamesta.com/creepy-trivia...erial-killers/

Ace Attorney 86 08-04-2012 08:04 PM

I thought this was odd too. The company that made this game is Spanish so I think it's a joke that might not have jumped the culture gap very well? That's probably also why the dialouge was stilted and used odd words that most Americans wouldn't use?

Not a bad game though.

Dirty130 08-04-2012 10:00 PM

I don't agree with glorifying serial killers but none the less, I like the game.

ThePumpkinKing 08-04-2012 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Yac (Post 5207438)
such an odd collectible to have in the game, they even included pictures if you look at the IDs through the memories section

The pictures are actually members of the development team. Using the pictures of the actual killers could be considered... obscene.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bum Commando (Post 5207610)
Kind of neat but i dont understand their relevance to the game? Are the corpses that you find all the ids on supposed to be the cereal killers themselves? It sure was nice of all those cereal killers to drop dead in a neat linear path along Vancouver.

Cereal? They killed Captain Crunch! And no. They're not all killers. It's just the IDs themselves. And it's Seattle. Not Vancouver.

But seriously. It's S-E-R-I-A-L killers.

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Originally Posted by HatredIncarnate (Post 5209193)
Read the diary. the guy is certifiable. maybe its his twisted psyche?

Yeah. Is it just me? Or did his diary make it sound like he was actually the one killing people in the forest? He mentioned animal attacks at one point. But later he mentions what he "had to do" to those two girls. I forget the page number. But he mentions that her had to do it because animals defend their territory. And he was defending his. On the same page. If you ask me, his paranoia (mentioned in the page about the bar where he waited for Ben). Lack of social skills/antisocial behavior (Ben is his only friend in all of Hope? Really??) And the previous page I mentioned, make him fit the profile of a serial killer almost perfectly.

If that is true, it would explain both:

SPOILERS!!! Why he didn't hesitate at all to kill his wife and daughter /END SPOILERS!!!

and

The real meaning behind the serial killer IDs and the connection as to why they claim to have put them in the game.

I'll have to shoot an email to the art director (he's on my facebook page) and ask him if that's true. Because now it really seems like it could be more than possible.

ThePumpkinKing 08-12-2012 08:21 PM

Wow... Has it really not dawned on anyone else that the game's protagonist, the guy we're playing as, is a sociopath?

Guy Who Rages 08-13-2012 12:50 AM

Well the Rat Man frequently talks about hell, and Randall says he's in hell a few times throughout the game. I don't think it's supposed to be taken literally, but maybe all the serial killers indicate that this is a "wrath of god" type of apocalypse.

ThePumpkinKing 08-13-2012 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Guy Who Rages (Post 5224606)
Well the Rat Man frequently talks about hell, and Randall says he's in hell a few times throughout the game. I don't take it's supposed to be taken literally, but maybe all the serial killers indicate that this is a "wrath of god" type of apocalypse.

re-read his diary. pay particularly close attention to pages 17-18 & 29-30. trust me when I say they're connected.

Lyco 08-26-2012 02:18 AM

I only noticed when I went back to mop up the last collectibles I missed. I didn't really pay attention when playing through the game, I just assumed the ID's were a method of getting the game's credits in.

Oh and as for the pics, I know a lot about serial killers but I wouldn't recognise most of them from pictures, regardless that the pics arent real the Wuornos ID's pic actually looks like a younger, attractive version of Aileen.

As for the protagonist, he's obviously disturbed. Antisocial, identified more with nature and animals than with human beings etc. BUT:

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Originally Posted by ThePumpkinKing (Post 5224276)
Wow... Has it really not dawned on anyone else that the game's protagonist, the guy we're playing as, is a sociopath?

Not true. He isn't a sociopath. It's not exactly a big deal (no bigger than the guy in this thread who mentioned 'cereal killers' anyway :P) but sociopaths have no capacity to understand the emotions of others beyond using them to their own ends. The game's protagonist (Randal is it?) isn't a sociopath because despite his hallucinations and what he realizes at the end of the game he actually loved his family. Misuse of the word sociopath (which isn't even used medically these days) is a little pet peeve of mine, the same way some people get about the universal misunderstanding of the concept of irony.

FlimsySix 12-26-2012 12:53 AM

I know I'm a little late to the party, but I just got this game. I started to pick up on the serial killer :uzi: thing after the first couple of IDs. Interesting thing to put in as a collectible.

Gacys Clown 01-05-2013 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlimsySix (Post 5480679)
I know I'm a little late to the party, but I just got this game. I started to pick up on the serial killer :uzi: thing after the first couple of IDs. Interesting thing to put in as a collectible.

Oddly enough, I found the collectibles pretty interesting myself...:p

TriRock 01-06-2013 09:45 AM

I realized it when collecting Aileen Wuornos that this isn't a coincidence. :p

JohnAizen 04-03-2013 12:37 AM

I never noticed that :O thats quite interesting but the question is why would they put serial killers ids as collectibles? lol

aardvarkgod 08-16-2013 12:11 AM

Like someone else mentioned, I fully expected a twist ending where the protagonist was a serial killer and all of the 'zombies' you kill in the game were actually real people. The diary also indicates a spiraling psyche and probably would have been a better ending to this game (though I liked the ending, it would seem that the 'twist' would have caught a lot of people of guard).

Hard Way 12-31-2013 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bum Commando (Post 5209263)
I read the diary but didn't quite make that connection. Maybe, that would explain how he could justify ... haha.

Wow, thanks for ruining the end of the game for me, dickhead. How about a fucking spoiler warning next time?

killa86 04-18-2014 02:48 AM

The serial killer connection is that in the PC version there is a Nightmare Mode with an alternate ending that reveals all of Randall's friends and fellow survivors were actually killed by him. He is the serial killer.


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