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IMPOSSIBLE DAN 09-04-2012 06:15 PM

Anyone having difficulty buying a house in Falkreath?
 
I have been trying to buy a house in Falkreath for about 45 minutes now, and yes I have asked the steward as well about buying land, I have even went back to a save made about a week ago and I can't.

Thanks.

Gnomestone 09-04-2012 06:21 PM

The only house that I was able to buy is the one from the Dawnstar Jarl.

I have no clue how to get the other 2 plots of land for the achievement. I've talked to nearly every Jarl, which ones sell plots of land besides the Dawnstar one?

IMPOSSIBLE DAN 09-04-2012 06:29 PM

In Morthal talk the the steward.

Samurai Ralan 09-04-2012 06:41 PM

Make sure you don't have a radiant open from another location as it locks out the Jarl, check this: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Becoming_Thane and scroll down to the Falk part. I had "The Mirror" open under Misc. quests, couldn't do anything until went back and finished it.

Laxi 09-04-2012 06:42 PM

i have the same problem. when i talk to the steward there is no option to buy anything. i can buy morthal/dawnstar. and yes i am thane everywhere.

so i loaded a 50~ hours older savegame of the same character and suddenly i was able to buy all three plots. i have no clue what triggers this bug, but i would really like to build a house near falkreath on my current savegame -_-

Gnomestone 09-04-2012 07:06 PM

Yeah the only plot of land I can't buy is Falkreath. Guess I'll just keep completing miscellaneous quests hoping something triggers the land purchase.

Mr Yac 09-04-2012 07:21 PM

having the same issue, falkreath just doesn't want to help me out. very annoying

Enjay 09-04-2012 07:58 PM

Same here. No conversation option to buy in Falkreath.

xPsYcHoSaWYeR 09-04-2012 08:28 PM

i did a quest for the jarl in falkreath he says go talk to my steward about buying land got a lil giddy talked to the steward and nothing !

buggss 09-04-2012 09:55 PM

Same problem, I understand it's related to you killing his servant guy, Halvard something earlier in the Dark Brotherhood questlines meaning Jarl Siddgeir in Falkreath doesn't like you meaning he never unlocks the land-purchase option.

I am a Thane everywhere including Falkreath and have the named weapons to prove it and can pick up one of the random radient quests from the steward but even after completing this, no further quests appear from either Jarl or steward and no purchase option appears. Both Dawnstar and Morthal purchases work fine but the constant snow annoys me and I'd prefer a more temperate climate to build in, like anyone.

If anyone manages any workarounds on the 360 I'd REALLY appreciate some advice.

Mr Yac 09-04-2012 10:00 PM

i reverted back to a really old save and i was able to buy the land no problem, so now i'm going to build all 3 houses for the achievment then revert to my main save and pick one of thenon falkreath lands to build my real house on, a pain in the butt for sure, but oh well it's worth a try for the rest of you who just want the achievment

IMPOSSIBLE DAN 09-04-2012 10:05 PM

I'm not even interested in the achievement, I just wanted my character to retire. I guess another area for now will have to do.

I'm honestly very surprised Bethesda overlooked this problem, quite disgusted to be honest.

BBowles 09-04-2012 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by IMPOSSIBLE DAN (Post 5257686)
I'm not even interested in the achievement, I just wanted my character to retire. I guess another area for now will have to do.

I'm honestly very surprised Bethesda overlooked this problem, quite disgusted to be honest.

If its because the steward dislikes you, is it really a "problem" in the game? Seems more like consequences for being a murderer >_> Same goes for people trying to remarry because they killed their spouse...

If its some sort of bug holding it up, then please, complain away :) If its as intended, and the steward hates your guts....well, players probably deserve that. I enjoy games where you're punished for your actions.

Anyone tried repeating one of the hold's radiant quests over and over to increase the steward's opinion of you? Like selling crops over and over?

IMPOSSIBLE DAN 09-04-2012 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BBowles (Post 5257702)
If its because the steward dislikes you, is it really a "problem" in the game? Seems more like consequences for being a murderer >_> Same goes for people trying to remarry because they killed their spouse...

Good point, though we never knew before hand that he would be selling the land, otherwise I would have never killed him.

o D M C o 09-05-2012 01:02 AM

I couldnt buy it until I read the 'letter from the Steward of Falkreath' that was in my inventory, dont know if that'll make a difference for anyone else though

Tienaava 09-05-2012 01:55 AM

I think it has to do with some of the actual sidequests in that hold. My experience panned out as follows:

I received my letter from the Jarl of Falkreath, I went over to him and killed some bandits he was dealing with (Not sure if thats radiant as I've done it more than once, going to the same hideout with the same objective, however if it is then my bad) and then returned. I asked to buy a plot of land and I wasn't thane, but I was given the land. House 1 built.

Next I travelled to Morthal and did the Laid to Rest quest which you receive from the Jarl directly. After that I could purchase my second piece of land. House 2 built.

Finally I travelled to Dawnstar and completed the Waking Nightmare quest (which you receive in the Inn from the priest of Mara, can't miss him to be fair, he's the priest with the mace), as the Jarl won't deal with you otherwise, then I completed a quick Giant slaying quest for him, then I could buy the 3rd plot. House 3 built.

I'm not sure if the radiant quests from the steward like {Kill X enemy at Y Location} actually contribute to the Jarl/Steward selling you the land. I would say you try and make sure the above is completed first, then talk to the Jarls directly and ask if you can do anything for them. If the radiant quests do contribute then I'll shut up xD

GIitch 09-05-2012 02:13 AM

I haven't been able to buy a house in Dawnstar, but I was able to buy in the other locations.

Arsenic 17 09-05-2012 02:19 AM

This thread explains what worked for me and many others. Just make sure if you have any of the quests listed, complete them. I had one open miscellaneous quest off the list, did it, then I was able to buy the land.

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/f...d.php?t=386071

DarkElfAqua 09-05-2012 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by buggss (Post 5257667)
Same problem, I understand it's related to you killing his servant guy, Val-something earlier in the Dark Brotherhood questlines meaning Siddgeri in Falkreath doesn't like you meaning he never unlocks the land-purchase option.

It's actually correct. Unless you have a save data before you kill Helvard in the Dark Brotherhood, there's no chance you can get the land (at least from the 3 hours of trying to test all possibilities). It's an old bug which from the looks of it it was never looked up/never bothered to be fixed. Only have 2-3 miscellaneous quests not related to anything "Thane" related and I'm sure it's the whole Helvard thing since you still get the quests from Nenya (which isn't "glitched") but rather the Jarl itself. :/

Hopefully of course it doesn't glitch with everyone.

GTSlaughter123 09-05-2012 07:47 AM

I could not get started with Falkreath's Thane quests until I started clearing up misc. quests. I needed to turn in the mammoth tusk to ysolda to get the Briars-mead quest. I then spent over 3 hours doing other misc. quest until I got the "kill bandits" quests.

As has been stated, there are radiant quests that will block the Falkreath Jarl from giving you quests until you wrap them up.

Skyrim should have had a work around for this when they released the DLC, seeing how common this problem is, IMO. Or made this DLC without achievements.

ShaggyB 09-05-2012 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GTSlaughter123 (Post 5258292)
Skyrim should have had a work around for this when they released the DLC, seeing how common this problem is, IMO. Or made this DLC without achievements.

I agree that a work around should be there.... in that the jarl should just give you the quests

But if they didnt do achievements people would be upset about that or claim the dlc was useless.

Skillet 09-05-2012 02:19 PM

You know, it's odd. I joined the Stormcloaks, so the usual Jarl and Nenya are stuck in the basement of the Blue Palace in Solitude. The new Jarl and his Steward basically have no relation to Helvard at all (who still happens to be laying on the floor where I killed him), and yet, I still can't purchase the land in Falkreath.

ryanclive 09-05-2012 02:39 PM

Is there anyone who were offered the choice to buy the land, and were able to do so, while the current Jarl is Siddgeir AND Halvard is already dead?

Just to narrow this down: If the current Jarl is Siddgeir AND Helvard is dead due to the Dark Brotherhood quest, then the option of buying the land will never be offered - Correct?

Emphasize on "AND", meaning both criteria has to be in place at the same time. Thanks in advance for any information.

buggss 09-05-2012 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ryanclive (Post 5258581)
Is there anyone who were offered the choice to buy the land, and were able to do so, while the current Jarl is Siddgeir AND Halvard is already dead?

Just to narrow this down: If the current Jarl is Siddgeir AND Helvard is dead due to the Dark Brotherhood quest, then the option of buying the land will never be offered - Correct?

Emphasize on "AND", meaning both criteria has to be in place at the same time. Thanks in advance for any information.

Absolutely.

Killing Helvard does NOT stop you buying the land or annoy the Jarl enough. On one character I can't buy it and on the other I can but I'm a Falkreath Thane in both and Helvard is dead in both. In both these games Siddgeir is the current Jarl.

Also it isn't the rare item dropoff (Amulet of Arkay, Ysolde's mammoth tusk etc)stopping the advancement either as the character that can buy Falkreath land also has the Arkay quest still active.

It's something else and I have no idea what it can be.

Underlining to assure the details are correct. :)

bigbear2face 09-05-2012 04:07 PM

I killed Halvard as part of the DB questline and had no problem (well that is a lie, I had a radiant quest open and had to finish it before the Jarl would give me the get him a drink quest).

Neither the Jarl nor the new steward ever seemed angry at me or hateful towards me...

Question for those of you having problems because you killed Halvard: Did someone see you do it? I always made sure no one saw me kill anyone in the DB quests. Maybe that makes a difference.

buggss 09-05-2012 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bigbear2face (Post 5258697)
...Question for those of you having problems because you killed Halvard: Did someone see you do it? I always made sure no one saw me kill anyone in the DB quests. Maybe that makes a difference.

Yeah, definitely made sure I was never seen on the DB quests, if I was a reloaded and tried again.

I'm something of a perfectionist completionist so not being able to make that 3rd house on my "completed" runthrough is pretty devastating...

Roose91 09-05-2012 05:51 PM

I've got this too. Honestly is pretty ridiculous. I'm still suffering from the Blood on the Ice bug so can't get Hjerim on my main lvl 78 character either. You can't expect people to play your game for nigh on a year and then release a DLC with achievements tied to a character who is meant to be killed in a faction questline. It is definitely becoming Thane and completing the Jarls radiant quest prior to killing Helvard that causes this, as his disposition is redeemable according to numerous sources around the internet by becoming Thane or getting the Black Briar Mead after assassinating Helvard. Anyone who says otherwise is just stirring it up. I've messaged Bethesda twice, once with a link to this thread. You guys should too, hopefully it will be addressed in a patch. I've still got a pre-Hearthfire save too but unfortunately no pre-Helvard death save so if it comes down to that looks like this DLC has ruined my 100% GS for this.

Sm0keytrip0d 09-05-2012 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Roose91 (Post 5258823)
I've still got a pre-Hearthfire save too but unfortunately no pre-Helvard death save so if it comes down to that looks like this DLC has ruined my 100% GS for this.

is it really so hard to just start a new game and blitz your way to getting the three houses...?

Roose91 09-05-2012 07:31 PM

Yes, given how much it has cost to construct just two of them on my lvl 78 save file with almost 500,000 Septims.

buggss 09-05-2012 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Roose91 (Post 5258823)
....Anyone who says otherwise is just stirring it up......

Excuse me just one second but I'm not stirring anything up, feel free to pop along to my place and I'll show you the 2 characters' saved games with exactly the situations explained above, both with a dead Halverd in the jarl's long house and one with 3 completed houses and one with no sight nor sound of Falkreath land.

I'm in my 30's for crying out loud and have been gaming for 30 odd years, I'm no kid trying to troll.


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