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The Machine 715 04-19-2013 08:36 PM

Ultimate Battler Achievement
 
So, is this achievement next to impossible to get? I notice that nobody has it on Trueachievements.

BiggD 04-19-2013 08:45 PM

Although it's not considered bitching, please save thoughts like this for the Bitching Thread, there's no reason to create a new thread for it.

With that said, yes, the achievement is very hard due to Battles like "Impossible!" and I haven't seen anyone obtain the achievement yet.

The Machine 715 04-19-2013 08:48 PM

My apologies. I didn't put it in the Bitching Thread because it was not my intent to complain or bitch when I created this. I actually haven't even played the full game yet and was just curious as to how unobtainable this achievement is.

BiggD 04-19-2013 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Machine 715 (Post 5714341)
My apologies. I didn't put it in the Bitching Thread because it was not my intent to complain or bitch when I created this. I actually haven't even played the full game yet and was just curious as to how unobtainable this achievement is.

Nah, it's alright dude. But yeah, the battles in Battle Mode are very, very hard. There's one where you have to beat all 24 characters with a single health bar...lol.

rockhopper 04-29-2013 06:07 AM

Not to mention you can't even adjust the difficulty in any of the battles except for classic.

BiggD 04-29-2013 10:51 AM

Tried Impossible! last night and at least you can get up to 75% health back if you do well in the fight. It's just stupid. You essentially can never allow yourself to dip into your second Health Bar or you're basically fucked. I failed after 9 fights.

D.A.N. 04-29-2013 11:27 AM

I don't think it's impossible. We'll just have to find that character that can exploit the CPU the way MK9 had a couple people and tactics that confused it.

Nozza XBA 04-29-2013 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by The BiggD (Post 5714337)
I haven't seen anyone obtain the achievement yet.

The top 2 players have completed the game, the other 4 have unlocked this achievement.

http://www.trueachievements.com/achi...ementid=175636

absolutehell 04-29-2013 12:18 PM

The only two that people will probably have troubles with are "The Max" and "Impossible." I did both 2 days ago and they aren't that bad.

For impossible, the computer is relatively easy. The only issue is that you only have one life (2 bars). I personally used Bane, but I know the character inside and out (online: 120-40). I used his free parry constantly and that was all I really needed. However, as long as you can do 20-40 percent combos consistently with any character, this one is pretty easy. Look at testyourmight for great combos. It took me 4-5 tries to complete.

For the Max, I would honestly suggest Doomsday. Start with a Jump D3, and then 112 and it's relatively simple. Not only is it a safe string, but it does decent chip damage. The computer will block a lot so once you finish the string, start it again. If you do use this method, make sure Green Lantern, Superman, Lex Luthor, or Doomsday is not one of the 10 opponents as they have great anti-airs. I could have probably done this with Bane as well as he has jump D3, but he has too many unsafe strings. I had not used Doomsday very much before this, and it only took me 3 tries.

The computer always repeats a few moves with each characters so once you recognize them it shouldn't be a problem. One big tip I would give is block at wakeup. Do not try to jump, or attack unless you know it will hit unless you want to get hit for 30-50 percent of your life.

BiggD 04-29-2013 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by D.A.N. (Post 5739721)
I don't think it's impossible. We'll just have to find that character that can exploit the CPU the way MK9 had a couple people and tactics that confused it.

Like Sheva's jump stomp move lol. I spammed the shit outta that move for Hard Arcade Ladder and the 300th challenge on Challenge Tower.

Would it be logical to use a turbo controller on Deathstroke's machine gun move or would the CPU counter that?

@Nozza, I literally might pay someone to complete World's Finest and Ultimate Battler for me then lmao.

RA1NKING 04-29-2013 12:52 PM

Im busy with the max at the moment and will record it. I am also using the doomsday method and got to fight 7 last night. If I see Superman , Lex or Green Lantern I just quit and re-start. I also use a mix up of Jump in Down+A followed up by A,A - then dash forward and do the Jump in Down+A again and repeat. That works and if they are blocking a lot I then use Jump in Down+A , X,X DF Y or Jump in Down+A , X,X,Y

It will make a lot more sense when I post the video. I already passed survivor and unstoppable with the doomsday method :-)

We should also give praise to the original poster of this method on the ps3trophies board : themuffinboyy

We all have methods based on his first tip....

BTW-- Zangief = Doomsday for Injustice :-)

D.A.N. 04-29-2013 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The BiggD (Post 5739821)
Like Sheva's jump stomp move lol. I spammed the shit outta that move for Hard Arcade Ladder and the 300th challenge on Challenge Tower.

Would it be logical to use a turbo controller on Deathstroke's machine gun move or would the CPU counter that?

@Nozza, I literally might pay someone to complete World's Finest and Ultimate Battler for me then lmao.

I think the CPU would block and punish it properly or read which gunshot you do and use a move to get around it.

Doomsday actually sounds like the best option. I mean, he's a solid character with an awesome trait, he gets in easy with meter burn shoulder attack, and he has an unblockable move that rains in from the heavens just like Sheeva. Not sure why I didn't think of that. xD

BiggD 04-29-2013 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by absolutehell (Post 5739801)
The only two that people will probably have troubles with are "The Max" and "Impossible." I did both 2 days ago and they aren't that bad.

For impossible, the computer is relatively easy. The only issue is that you only have one life (2 bars). I personally used Bane, but I know the character inside and out (online: 120-40). I used his free parry constantly and that was all I really needed. However, as long as you can do 20-40 percent combos consistently with any character, this one is pretty easy.

You say that as though it's easy. Lol, not everyone is that great at fighters. My best character and combo is only a 6 hit combo with Catwoman for 25-28% :(

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Originally Posted by D.A.N. (Post 5739934)
I think the CPU would block and punish it properly or read which gunshot you do and use a move to get around it.

Doomsday actually sounds like the best option. I mean, he's a solid character with an awesome trait, he gets in easy with meter burn shoulder attack, and he has an unblockable move that rains in from the heavens just like Sheeva. Not sure why I didn't think of that. xD

But whereas Sheva's attack had infinite range, Doomsday's jump stomp can only be done from close to mid-medium range which sucks. I'll give him a shot today and hopefully I can get Impossible! and The Max done.

All the text explaining his moves is too confusing, we need actual button inputs like :ddown: :dup: :abut: for it to be clear, or a video.

RA1NKING 04-29-2013 02:55 PM

I will post a video in the morning. Busy rendering now and will upload when I get home. You should see it a little later. I will also try post the Grundy combo which people have used to beat the max as well...

The Grundy combo is :

X,X,Y Back Forward Y RT - X,X,B - down,down,B - up,up,B--47% damage

BiggD 04-29-2013 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RA1NKING (Post 5740131)
I will post a video in the morning. Busy rendering now and will upload when I get home. You should see it a little later. I will also try post the Grundy combo which people have used to beat the max as well...

The Grundy combo is :

X,X,Y Back Forward Y RT - X,X,B - down,down,B - up,up,B--47% damage

Thanks dude. I'll check back later today or tomorrow for a video. I'm hoping I can get these damn Battles outta the way soon.

Here's a helpful video I found over on TestYourMight. The combos are in the description but do me no good since they aren't formatted to Xbox's controls...

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And then there's this but it looks like it wouldn't work out of practice.


D.A.N. 04-29-2013 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The BiggD (Post 5740151)
The combos are in the description but do me no good since they aren't formatted to Xbox's controls...

The notations used on that description are universal for many fighting games.

light attack - 1
medium attack - 2
heavy - 3
trait/character power - 4
j - jumping
b - back
d - down
f - forward

From there you can probably figure it out. So if something is db, it means down back.

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Originally Posted by The BiggD (Post 5740115)
You say that as though it's easy. Lol, not everyone is that great at fighters. My best character and combo is only a 6 hit combo with Catwoman for 25-28% :(



But whereas Sheva's attack had infinite range, Doomsday's jump stomp can only be done from close to mid-medium range which sucks. I'll give him a shot today and hopefully I can get Impossible! and The Max done.

All the text explaining his moves is too confusing, we need actual button inputs like :ddown: :dup: :abut: for it to be clear, or a video.

You can meter burn Doomsday's move to track the opponent. It's possible for them to dodge with a dash or meter burn bounce punish it, but I don't know how often the CPU would do that.

Xl Synical lX 04-29-2013 04:46 PM

Going for this tonight... Thank god for this site, If not I would be lost !

Urbanus 04-29-2013 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RA1NKING (Post 5739846)
Im busy with the max at the moment and will record it. I am also using the doomsday method and got to fight 7 last night. If I see Superman , Lex or Green Lantern I just quit and re-start. I also use a mix up of Jump in Down+A followed up by A,A - then dash forward and do the Jump in Down+A again and repeat. That works and if they are blocking a lot I then use Jump in Down+A , X,X DF Y or Jump in Down+A , X,X,Y

It will make a lot more sense when I post the video. I already passed survivor and unstoppable with the doomsday method :-)

We should also give praise to the original poster of this method on the ps3trophies board : themuffinboyy

We all have methods based on his first tip....

BTW-- Zangief = Doomsday for Injustice :-)

All thanks to themuffinboyy, I beat max and Impossible! in the same day with his method. However I did change it up a bit. Jump in with D1, 1,1,2. Even on block for some reason he does 7% chip damage. Here's a video of my 1st attempt at it. Poor quality, VERY Poor but you will see how i make the CPU stay in the corner in some fights. just watch. Hopefully, RA1NKING will upload a better version of this video but for now this will do
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=uyWLLG_YjvU

BiggD 04-29-2013 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D.A.N. (Post 5740263)
The notations used on that description are universal for many fighting games.

light attack - 1
medium attack - 2
heavy - 3
trait/character power - 4
j - jumping
b - back
d - down
f - forward

You can meter burn Doomsday's move to track the opponent. It's possible for them to dodge with a dash or meter burn bounce punish it, but I don't know how often the CPU would do that.

Thanks for the explanation, makes it much clearer for me since I'm not all too familiar with fighters as you all are. Let's hope Doomsday does work today!

absolutehell 04-29-2013 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RA1NKING (Post 5739846)
Im busy with the max at the moment and will record it. I am also using the doomsday method and got to fight 7 last night. If I see Superman , Lex or Green Lantern I just quit and re-start. I also use a mix up of Jump in Down+A followed up by A,A - then dash forward and do the Jump in Down+A again and repeat. That works and if they are blocking a lot I then use Jump in Down+A , X,X DF Y or Jump in Down+A , X,X,Y

It will make a lot more sense when I post the video. I already passed survivor and unstoppable with the doomsday method :-)

We should also give praise to the original poster of this method on the ps3trophies board : themuffinboyy

We all have methods based on his first tip....

BTW-- Zangief = Doomsday for Injustice :-)

I do not visit the ps3trophies board, and have not visited this website for quite some time. I figured this out by myself as I love fighting games and am always looking for safe block strings or interesting tidbits with characters. There is a reason Doomsday is a great character. He has many safe block strings, and can keep constant pressure. I apologize for reiterating what he said, but do not think I just took his info as I would have provided the original source. It would have saved me a little time. Since people were asking, I decided to add what I discovered.

In regards to Sheva air special move, Doomsday can do the same thing, but he must meter burn to follow his target. Also the computer is quite good at dodging it, and will punish you. It's good to do, however; if they are a full screen's distance away. They don't seem to dash out of the way for some reason at this distance.

BiggD 04-29-2013 11:44 PM

Solomon's Traits looks helpful. Hadn't really seen in it full effect until now! Video is in link below, it's not popping up for whatever reason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=70C7bnBQKtk

Ctrl Alt Defeat 04-30-2013 06:59 AM

This achievement will be the death of me.

RA1NKING 04-30-2013 08:05 AM

Alrighty guys , I think we finally have the Zangief of Injustice... and it is :

HAWKGIRL !!!!!!!

Firstly HUGE THANKS to PRSNightfire and Dark Rocky X who gave me this to try and it works very well and is the easiest method so far.

Firstly make sure when you select "The Max" that you avoid the following characters :

Aquaman
Raven
Green Lantern
Lex Luthor
Deathstroke
DoomsDay

Now when the match starts jump back and then start with the one and only move you will be using : B,F,Y --( Back , Forward Y )
Just keep timing it that you enter the move as soon as they get up. If they are blocking it does good chip damage so just keep doing the move over and over again.

I have a video uploading which shows the Doomsday method as well as the Hawkgirl method. I have not completed The max yet as when I played as hawkgirl I got raven , but wanted to get the video out to help as quick as possible.

Thanks again to my friend Dark Rocky X and PRSNightfire for this Awesome solution.

PS- Please fast forward the first 3 minutes of the vid-- Forgot to cut out trying to get the right opponents.



Here is a complete run with HawkGirl :


BiggD 04-30-2013 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by RA1NKING (Post 5742049)
HAWKGIRL !!!!!!!

Firstly make sure when you select "The Max" that you avoid the following characters :

Aquaman, Raven, Green Lantern, Lex Luthor, Deathstroke, and DoomsDay.

Now when the match starts jump back and then start with the one and only move you will be using : B,F,Y --( Back , Forward Y )
Just keep timing it that you enter the move as soon as they get up. If they are blocking it does good chip damage so just keep doing the move over and over again.

Avoid 6 characters?! The chances of being able to avoid ALL 6 is so slim lol.

But regardless, if Hawkgirl's one move works well, I'll test it out sometime this week.

RA1NKING 04-30-2013 11:40 AM

Wait until you try the method and trust me you wont look back , because if you avoid those 6 characters guaranteed you will do this first time.
Also 6/24 to avoid aint too bad :-)

After I posted this on the ps3 site someone completed it on the 2nd attempt. You will not get easier than this... guaranteed... Check the video above to see how easy it is.

BiggD 04-30-2013 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RA1NKING (Post 5742262)
Wait until you try the method and trust me you wont look back , because if you avoid those 6 characters guaranteed you will do this first time.
Also 6/24 to avoid aint too bad :-)

After I posted this on the ps3 site someone completed it on the 2nd attempt. You will not get easier than this... guaranteed... Check the video above to see how easy it is.

Doomsday method looks ideal! what combo were you following up with after the air hit? and was it a medium of light jump attack?

The Hawkgirl method looks risky to be honest, lol. Nightwing and Bane nearly kicked your ass!!

Regardless, at least we have two good methods for now. Although I don't think they would work that well for the Impossible! Battle :(

RA1NKING 04-30-2013 02:01 PM

The tactics for the DoomsDay Method are the following combos :

Xbox-360
Jump toward opponent D,A - followed up with X,X,Y or
Jump toward opponent D,A - followed up with X,X,236Y or
Jump toward opponent D,A - followed up with A,A - Dash forward and Repeat.

PS3
Jump toward opponent D,3 - followed up with 1,1,2 or
Jump toward opponent D,3 - followed up with 1,1,DF2 or
Jump toward opponent D,3 - followed up with 3,3 - Dash forward and Repeat.

If you need to close space use 214,Y,RT (xbox) or db,2,R2 (ps3)

For Doomsday try to Avoid the following :

Superman
Lex Luthor
Green Lantern
The Flash

BiggD 04-30-2013 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RA1NKING (Post 5742428)
The tactics for the DoomsDay Method are the following combos :

Xbox-360
Jump toward opponent D,A - followed up with X,X,Y or
Jump toward opponent D,A - followed up with X,X,236Y or
Jump toward opponent D,A - followed up with A,A - Dash forward and Repeat.

For Doomsday try to Avoid the following :

Superman
Lex Luthor
Green Lantern
The Flash

Thanks for the breakdown! :) Hopefully I can manage some skill with this combo.

Ctrl Alt Defeat 04-30-2013 10:03 PM

The Hawkgirl method seems to be pretty effective, but like BiggD said. I find it very lucky if you don't have any of those six characters in your ladder.

Beast Legacy 04-30-2013 10:54 PM

Just got the full 1000. A lot of these are really just match-up dependent, but very possible. Just avoid guys like Green Lantern and Ares while going through Max with the character and method of your choice and you can succeed. Know the timing and invincibility frames of wakeup attacks, so you know when to use them offensively and avoid them defensively.


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