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shinobigarth 12-20-2013 02:05 AM

Mission 6 optional objectives
 
this mission is seriously stupid for getting the 100% on. you have to do all 5 and cant kill anyone. i just did that by using fists, smoke bombs and the sleep darts which last time i checked, ARE ALL NON LETHAL!!!! yet after doing all 5 i didnt get credit for it. if some stupid guard got shot by one of his buddies, thats his fault not mine (i didnt use human shield at all) and its not fair to penalize the player. the objective says "do not kill anyone while doing the investigations". i wasnt aware i had to also play babysitter to these idiots and make sure their friends dont kill them too. :mad:

can anyone give any tips because this is seriously the stupidest mission in the whole DLC.

coffegalen 12-20-2013 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by shinobigarth (Post 6152039)
this mission is seriously stupid for getting the 100% on. you have to do all 5 and cant kill anyone. i just did that by using fists, smoke bombs and the sleep darts which last time i checked, ARE ALL NON LETHAL!!!! yet after doing all 5 i didnt get credit for it. if some stupid guard got shot by one of his buddies, thats his fault not mine (i didnt use human shield at all) and its not fair to penalize the player. the objective says "do not kill anyone while doing the investigations". i wasnt aware i had to also play babysitter to these idiots and make sure their friends dont kill them too. :mad:

can anyone give any tips because this is seriously the stupidest mission in the whole DLC.

The thing is, you can complete all 5 investigation without even attacking with your sleep darts etc.
If you fail a investigation or get caught and hunted just reload the checkpoint. The investigations you already have completed will still be completed even after you reload last checkpoint.

You have to finish the mission before the objective counts as complete!

MADCV 12-20-2013 09:06 AM

Same exact problem with me.
They should word the Objective properly to say "don't get seen or kill anyone"

shinobigarth 12-20-2013 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by coffegalen (Post 6152419)
The thing is, you can complete all 5 investigation without even attacking with your sleep darts etc.
If you fail a investigation or get caught and hunted just reload the checkpoint. The investigations you already have completed will still be completed even after you reload last checkpoint.

You have to finish the mission before the objective counts as complete!

are you not allowed to be seen or hunted? because it doesnt mention that at all. i figure you should be able to beat up guys that chase you and as long as they arent dead you should be fine, but it doesnt count after i do everything and go back to the black chick.

i never thought about reloading the checkpoint and getting to continue. guess i'll try that out.

MADCV 12-20-2013 12:26 PM

Yeah it's a bit ridiculous.
So one play through do the 3 easiest Investigations ie: the two crash tackle messengers and that guy with the letter up north, without being spotted, hunted or killing people.
Then, visit the brothel chick.
Finish, get the objective and sigh at the poorly worded Optional Objective.

Then, 2nd play through, do all 5 Investigations and kill the whole town for the inconvenience of having to do stuff twice.

Cos as we all know, most people don't have the patience to play for a yawn-worthy or poorly worded optional objective on their first go, or at all.
Silly Ubisoft for thinking anyone nowadays has that much vested interest. Ain't nobody got time fo dat.

coffegalen 12-20-2013 12:28 PM

No my bad , you can be hunted, but it is hard to escape and hide (soldiers everywhere) so what i did was just reload checkpoint and try again.

Your arent allowed to use your fists!

shinobigarth 12-21-2013 12:14 AM

you CANT use your fists? WTF?! beating someone up CLEARLY does not kill them (they are rolling around in pain). wow, epic fail, Ubisoft.

Exodized 12-21-2013 12:37 AM

You can "knock out" enemies, and dart them to sleep (Dont use Zerker darts though) I put the guy on the ship to sleep, and tackled the other messenger.

The hardest by far was the easedropping... but once you figure out the route, its not as bad.

Lets see the guy with the key is easy since you can just pickpocket him then smokebomb away.

and finally the the guy sitting is easy to pickpocket as well...

shinobigarth 12-21-2013 12:45 AM

if you actually are allowed to beat people up with your fists, then i should have gotten it....

ruckus 12-21-2013 08:15 AM

I noticed that I didn't get the "do not kill anyone while investigating" objective until after completing the mission. Not after the actual investigations.

Baseball Jr 01-26-2014 12:26 AM

I tried this multiple times knowing I didn't kill a single person, It got to the point where I didn't need to knock anybody out or ever being hunted. Then i read this and went to finish the mission and got it...Thanks
So if your sure you only knocked out people, finish the mission and you'll get it after the cutscene.

Inebriated Jedi 01-26-2014 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MADCV (Post 6152571)
So one play through do the 3 easiest Investigations ie: the two crash tackle messengers and that guy with the letter up north, without being spotted, hunted or killing people.
Then, visit the brothel chick.
Finish, get the objective and sigh at the poorly worded Optional Objective.

Then, 2nd play through, do all 5 Investigations and kill the whole town for the inconvenience of having to do stuff twice.

This is the best method for this stupid mission.

Doing both objectives at once is just too frustrating.

N00delsuppe 02-28-2014 01:02 PM

It's really not that hard. Just never fight, but run away and hide instead. If you can't make it, just reload last checkpoint. After every single investigation there will be a new checkpoint. So i.e. you do the first messenger first, get the letter and then try to do the eavesdrop but fail it, you can reload last the checkpoint and it will put you back to the harbourmasters hut from the beginning. But you will still have the first investigation completed. I purpously failed, to check if that works, and it does. I had to reload checkpoint one more time, during the eavesdrop mission, because guards started attacking me. It was the fourth investigation I attempted, and after reloading, it still said that I have 3/5 completed.
Whenever I got detected during the fishermans objective, I just ran away and hid.
After I've done all 5 investigations I went back to the brothel woman (also DO NOT fight anyone on your way there, even if you are technically not investigating anymore) and the mission was 100% completed.

So:
- never fight guards (no matter if you use lethal or non-lethal weapons, just never fight)
- reload checkpoints when needed

timmay0037 04-02-2014 11:08 PM

Hiding Spots
 
Try your hardest not to get seen by the people who will get alerted. Going from hiding spot to hiding spot worked for me and I got it on my second play through.

DemonRaider1138 07-31-2014 12:13 AM

I believe this was a bug that you couldn't use your fists. I did this just last week and beat up at least 20 people and knocked them out with just my fists. I finished the mission doing all 5 and also got the bonus objective for not killing anyone.

zarda1 08-02-2014 12:59 AM

don't enter combat at all. An easy way to get around this mission is to complete the objective for not killing anyone without being detected and do the 3 easiest missions that way then just complete the mission and replay it to get the last objective to do all 5. You do have to get both optional objectives at the same time.


The first time I tried this mission the random events to free salves were set up in such a way that it was impossible to get away with out being spotted. I just finished the mission and came back later and it was a lot easier this time with the more favorable spawns.


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