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TheMollywhopper 08-18-2006 06:29 PM

Still can't get an "A ranking? Here's what you're doing wrong!
 
EDIT: Please do not send me a friend request or otherwise message me regarding this game! I'm not trying to be a dick, it's just that I haven't played it in almost 5 years and remember next to nil about it!

Being that I am likely the only idiot who posts here that actually bought the strategy guide for this game, I feel it is my responsibility to post this info (even if you have the SG you may not have noticed this, as it is embedded in worthless pages of text).
There are a certain number of mission-specific "points" that you must accumulate in order to get the different rankings for each mission. The basic breakdown of points is as follows:

1) % of Enemies Killed
100% = 40 points
50% = 20 p

2) Enemies Killed By Orb Spark
2,001+ = 26p
1,000-1999 = 24p
900-999 = 22p
(every hundred kills downward from here drops your score by 2 points until...)
0-99 = 0p

3) Highest Combo
5,501+ = 20p
(This drops you one point per 500 combo hits until...)
201-500 = 9p
101-200 = 6p
1 - 100 = 3p

4) Ally Unit Survival Rate (in percentages)
91-100 = 10p
81-90 = 9p
71-80 = 8p
1-70 = 7p
0 = 0p

5) Number of Items Obtained (I assume this includes chest-borne goodies)
31+ = 5p
30 = 4p
20-29 = 3p
10-19 = 2p
5-9 = 1p
0-4 = 0p

6) Lastly (Thanks to Finest for the reminder!)... TIME
There's an equation for your points accured from time taken to complete the mission... Get your calculators out for this one: {(3,600 - clear time) / 200} + 18 The score is adjusted to prevent your time score from being negative or exceeding 36. For example, let's say you take exactly 10 minutes on your mission... 3600 - 600 (seconds) = 3,000... 3,000/200 = 14 (rounded up). 14 + 18 = 34. Sorry if this is confusing?!

Also note that each specific mission has a Bonus score with it's own criteria, which range from 5-22 points. The requirements for A rankings vary from 74-109 points.
I hope this helps someone who's struggling for an A rank as I have been!
Good luck!

bru8ball 08-18-2006 06:40 PM

hey Molly,

Just wanted to let you know that this info is very much appreciated!! I have been getting only B rankings, and I have tried the first 3 levels 3 or 4 times each!! Man, fun as hell game though!!

Thanks Again,

Bru8Ball

TheMollywhopper 08-18-2006 06:48 PM

Not a problem, man... Just don't spread the word too much or I might get busted for plagiarism or some shit!

Finest 08-18-2006 07:47 PM

I see nothing about time per mission. Did you leave that out or does that mean that time is not an issue?

TheMollywhopper 08-18-2006 08:31 PM

Good looking out man! Sorry about that! Here's the deal with time (I'll edit my original post to include this for future reference.

There's an equation for your points accrued from time taken to complete the mission... Get your calculators out for this one: {(3,600 - clear time) / 200} + 18 The score is adjusted to prevent your time score from being negative or exceeding 36. For example, let's say you take exactly 10 minutes on your mission... 3600 - 600 (seconds) = 3,000... 3,000/200 = 14 (rounded up). 14 + 18 = 34. Sorry if this is confusing?!

Korix 08-19-2006 12:53 AM

You have done an awesome job with this post, don't think I mean otherwise, but is there a list in the guide as to what the point requirements are for each mission? You posted a range for all of them together before but does it spill what they are for each one?

Again, thanks for the post. Now we know the method to the madness.

reaper527 08-19-2006 01:16 AM

awesome guide, i've been wondering what the in detail specs where for an A ranking as i've been going slay and prey trying to get my a's :)

TheMollywhopper 08-19-2006 05:33 AM

Yeah, there's a list here in the strategy guide... I'll start a new post for you guys ASAP

temp0r 08-22-2006 02:36 AM

most helpful post .. gotta get my spark orb kills and higher combo's seems they're worth the most ..

just fyi

6) Lastly (Thanks to Finest for the reminder!)... TIME
There's an equation for your points accured from time taken to complete the mission... Get your calculators out for this one: {(3,600 - clear time) / 200} + 18 The score is adjusted to prevent your time score from being negative or exceeding 36. For example, let's say you take exactly 10 minutes on your mission... 3600 - 600 (seconds) = 3,000... 3,000/200 = 14 (rounded up). 14 + 18 = 34. Sorry if this is confusing?!

14
18+
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32 .. ?? =)

looks like every 5 mins it takes you .. you lose two of those points max being 36 points (3600-0/200=18 + 18 = 36) where at 5 mins it would be 34 .. 10 mins would be 32 .. etc etc

bkd210 08-23-2006 07:17 PM

Nice job man. This is really going to help me out a lot. But is there anything that tells you certain things like how many enemies are in each mission so I can find out the percentage and how many items I collected? I don't know if I'm just missing something or what. Good job again, man. I'd appreciate any help.

Sarge McLarge 08-23-2006 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bkd210 (Post 95497)
Nice job man. This is really going to help me out a lot. But is there anything that tells you certain things like how many enemies are in each mission so I can find out the percentage and how many items I collected? I don't know if I'm just missing something or what. Good job again, man. I'd appreciate any help.

I haven't found any resource (online or strategy guide) that states how many enemies are on each level, and its hard to get an estimate because you don't know how many enemies were killed by your men. I also noticed that sometimes you can't even kill 100% of the enemies because some of the archery towers are unreachable. The best thing to do to keep track of items collected is to simply count them as you get get them :D.

bkd210 08-24-2006 01:59 AM

Oh okay. Thanks man. I thought I was going crazy or dumb when I didn't see any indicators. Not I just gotta an A on Inphyy's last level. Time to go and kill some goblins :uzi: .

head0r Inc 08-30-2006 09:37 PM

I hate the last level with the troll, lol!, i tried it about 13 times and i still can't get a A-ranking -.-'...Its the last level, then i will get the achievement but...:(:confused:

Tracker4502 08-31-2006 05:08 AM

Does "Highest Combo" Count? I would hate to be getting 2k combos just to have them go to waste...

Drednaught X 09-30-2006 02:55 PM

Aaaa
 
I am still stuck on the last mission for infy, as i cant get an 'A'. I have played through it 15 times and i still cant get an A. anythoughts or segestions?

Nukeshell 09-30-2006 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nukeshell (Post 109734)
1. Choose only archers
2. Let them hold their position right away.
3. Start killing as many enemies if you can, and be as fast as possible. Everytime your red bar is full, you should use your Special Attack.
4. Try to get a combo of 500+ at the Pwucks
5. Make sure your Blue Bar is full after you defeated the Armie of Nights.
6. Use your Orb Spark at the next group of enemies. But before you use it, make sure that most of the enemies are standing together to get more kills.
7. Kill everyone in the area before facing Dwykfarrio. If done right your Blue Bar will be full again. If not, you should kill some of the enemies around Dwykfarrio to get is full. This can be done best by killing the Goblin Wizards.
8. Kill the remaining enemies surrounding Dwykfarrio.
9. Kill Dwykfarrio!

If done right you should have 1000+ Kills, 500+ Combo and 200+ Orb Spark kills. These will be the most important stats to get the A-Rank.

Quoted from the [HELP] Inphyy's "Ywa-Ue-Uar Forest" A Rank Thread

FiNaL Mirage 10-05-2006 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tracker4502 (Post 98375)
Does "Highest Combo" Count? I would hate to be getting 2k combos just to have them go to waste...

The combo did make alot of difference for me but I just followed the instructions in the [HELP] thread and I got through it.

Nukeshell 10-05-2006 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FiNaL Mirage (Post 112107)
The combo did make alot of difference for me but I just followed the instructions in the [HELP] thread and I got through it.

Seems like my instructions are pretty good:eek:

Razor_DT 10-17-2006 04:14 AM

hey i can't seem to get A ranking on 2 missions. Ywa-Ue-Uar-Forest with Inphyy and Castle of Varrvasarr with Aspharr. The highest I have gotten is B. I'm so tired of playing this game and the A ranking achievement is the only one left I have to get. This game is so repetitive please post back.....

Mahlum 03-08-2007 08:59 PM

Thanks for posting that points list

Crzyeuropn 04-11-2007 07:12 PM

Hey Molly,

I need some help do u know how to beat the level Castle of Varrvazzarr with Aspharr, its the only one left that I havnt gotten a A or S.

Bosmel 04-25-2007 08:37 PM

Hey
I could need some help with Imphys last mission! I know there's a thread around but I want to ask u, you might can give me a "special tipp"...

I tried it about 10 to 15 times and I only get a B! that's really driving me cracy:mad:

I think I do everything alright and at the end I usually have about 1050 kills, 70% of my men staid alive, 350 combo, 15-18min to finish the mission

Where's the problem, I don't know what I'm doing wrong!?

Is it the kills- do I need to get about 1200 kills, mh if I do: How can I get that many?! At the beginning when I count about 450kills it teleportes me to another place where I have to kill that fat big frog- king- dude and after that I explored every possible way of the map, but I can't find any more enemies!:uzi: So I can't really get those 1200kills...that really suxx

Damn, I used to like this game, but I only need this lvl in A to get the achievement, so I wana beat it...

Need help!

Joschwa 05-04-2007 06:01 AM

Well these are the details of my mission clear whenever i finally (and i emphasize finally) got an A-Ranking

Time: 14:41
Kills: 1110
Standard Attack: 890
Orb Spark: 220
Orbs Obtained: 8452
Max Combo: 547
Guard Survival Rate: 62%
Successful Missions: 18 (sad isnt it...)
Bonuses: 700

Hope that saves someone beating this freakin' level as many times as i have

Also just something interesting, i didnt even know how to equip weapons or items until i had got A's on all of Inphyy's levels except the Forest, and also beat the forest 16 times.... considering i beat the level 16 times without an A ranking, and then only 2 more tries with new weapons/items equipped... it is safe to say they make a huge difference....(i didnt know i picked up any weapons, and i thought the items just added to stats by picking them up)

Joschwa 05-06-2007 02:56 AM

Here are my stats for the "Castle of Varrvazzarr" A-Ranking

Time: 23:27
Kills: 703
Standard: 640
Orb Spark: 63
Orbs Obtained: 6393
Max Combo: 5022
Guard Survival Rate: 39%
Successful Missions: 4
Bonuses: 1700

What i did was:
(1)choose all archers start tell guards to stay and kill the goblin archers near
(2)Go directly East all the way to get 3 chests
(3)Go north up the winding road but DO NOT KILL ANYONE:eek:
(4)Run all the way to the end of this road without killing any enemies and get the three chests there (1 is double orb value everytime for me)
(5)Equip default weapon and any itms (cursed choker worked well for me) that will take away from your attack
(6)Keep swinging non-stop until you get 5000+ combo :uzi: (re-equip attacking items and updated weapon)
(7)If there are a sufficient number of enemies left, use red bar orb attack to finish them off
(8)Proceed back to the main battle and kill all non-named enemies first and then Ppakk the Third, but try to get the blue bar up and keep it
(9)Once the orc captain appears, use orb spark... then defeat captain:chair
(10)Defeat all enemies with Dwingvatt, and then Dwingvatt
(11) Rejoice:woop:

Congrats you should have an A Ranking:drunk

by the way, make sure to pick up everything, and destroy all the chests

Wandering Proof 07-01-2007 06:58 PM

Just wanted to say thanks for posting this, I know it is stickied and you probably don't check it. If you do however.. know that it has helped me greatly.

Suplemental 07-13-2007 06:45 PM

tyvm
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nukeshell (Post 110464)

needed this mate always getting B on this mission also Molly your guide rocks helped me out alot! :woop::rock:cool::biglaugh
(first time on forums lol.)

XeonMasta 07-25-2007 04:40 PM

Great thx.

WTYD 08-12-2007 09:56 AM

Aspharr 1st mission
 
Wow 4 some reason I can't get an A on this one I tried this lvl like 4 times and still no A the funny thing is that when I was playing with Inphyy I got the A at the 1st try, so any tips?

Edit: Never mind I finally got it.

WiiZero 08-14-2007 05:29 AM

Is "S" better than "A"? and if so do you need A or does S count as an A

That's the only achievement I think I won't get but I'll try

WTYD 08-17-2007 07:03 AM

they are both the same

A= Awesome
S= Sup-er


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