Necrophage33 Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 I agree for the most part. It is a headshot machine and its great in closequarter combat. So, yes it is underrated. Even with it being underrated it is still miles behind the other AR's. I would say the TAR is the most similar gun to the F2000, and it beats it in so many categories, except fire rate. Yes you ca burst fire the gun at range, but with other AR's you dont have to. Basically, its not as bad as people make it out to be, but its not a good gun either. If the F2000 was listed under SMGs, it wouldn't get nearly as much hate as it does, being in the AR category. If you are used to the M16, or ACR, and then try to use the F2000, you'll think it's the most god-awful gun out there. But if you've been using the MP5 and P90 and then switch to the F2000, you'll find you've got yourself a decent SMG. Still, I really don't understand why the F2000 unlocks at such a late level. There is nothing about it that merits such a late unlock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC B0B x360a Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 If the F2000 was listed under SMGs, it wouldn't get nearly as much hate as it does, being in the AR category. If you are used to the M16, or ACR, and then try to use the F2000, you'll think it's the most god-awful gun out there. But if you've been using the MP5 and P90 and then switch to the F2000, you'll find you've got yourself a decent SMG. Still, I really don't understand why the F2000 unlocks at such a late level. There is nothing about it that merits such a late unlock. When you compare to other guns I think it unlocks exactly where it should. I say this because all the good guns unlock early and the shit guns unlock late. All you really need in the game is the fama, ump, rpd, and spas, and they unlock right away. The AK is a level 70 unlock, and I would say its the 6th best AR behind the FAMAS, M16, TAR, SCAR, and ACR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robespirre Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 If the F2000 was listed under SMGs, it wouldn't get nearly as much hate as it does, being in the AR category. If you are used to the M16, or ACR, and then try to use the F2000, you'll think it's the most god-awful gun out there. But if you've been using the MP5 and P90 and then switch to the F2000, you'll find you've got yourself a decent SMG. Still, I really don't understand why the F2000 unlocks at such a late level. There is nothing about it that merits such a late unlock. i hate how so many people talk shit on this gun. this is one of the best guns in the game. its great with hipfire. and if you learn how to give it a good burst its like you killed the enemy wit one shot. one thing i notice about this gun is since it has high kick you have to slightly aim down as your shooting. this is one of my favorite guns and i cant stand how people hate on it just because theyre not use to handling recoil and as for red dot or holo. i choose red dot. although iron sight is always the best. the reason for red dot is because it takes less off your screen compared to the holographic. the holographic is slightly thicker on the sides. taking some of your view off. also the holo gets a nasty glare in some cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC B0B x360a Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 (edited) i hate how so many people talk shit on this gun. this is one of the best guns in the game. its great with hipfire. and if you learn how to give it a good burst its like you killed the enemy wit one shot. one thing i notice about this gun is since it has high kick you have to slightly aim down as your shooting. this is one of my favorite guns and i cant stand how people hate on it just because theyre not use to handling recoil But, all those are also the main arguing points against the F2000. Yes its a decent gun if you can handle recoil, but why handle recoil if you dont have to. There are just oo many other AR's with 0 recoil, so it makes the F2000 obsolete in mw2. IT would be a great gun in Black Ops because the guns have more recoil. Basically, the F2000 isn't as bad as everyone says it is, but there are several better AR's. Edited March 15, 2011 by MC B0B x360a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBmaster9345 Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 I prefer holographic cuz you can see through it just a little bit. Helps when you can see that small section on your screen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spade. Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 (edited) Holo. I usually use iron sights though w/ a GL or silencer. Edited March 20, 2011 by Spade. really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimberWolf257 Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 I would say red dot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Kebab Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Holograpic Pro: Increases FAl minimum damage from 35 to 40 making it two shot kill at all ranges. (Except if target is shot through cover, having Painkiller/Last Stand/Final Stand active) Decreases M16 recoil Reticle doesn't sway when turning Con: Thicker frame which is reducing visibility Glaring on sunny maps The large circle is very close to the small which is obscuring vision It's height can be problematic on weapons like AK-47, while working better on weapons like UMP as the sight will be placed low Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxy kyle Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 its all personal preference but i prefer red dot sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC B0B x360a Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Holograpic Pro: Increases FAl minimum damage from 35 to 40 making it two shot kill at all ranges. (Except if target is shot through cover, having Painkiller/Last Stand/Final Stand active) Decreases M16 recoil Reticle doesn't sway when turning Con: Thicker frame which is reducing visibility Glaring on sunny maps The large circle is very close to the small which is obscuring vision It's height can be problematic on weapons like AK-47, while working better on weapons like UMP as the sight will be placed low I've never heard that the rds or holo on a gun makes it more/less powerful. On the m16 its a 2 bullet kills w/ stopping power, whether its a rds or holo. Also the holo on the m16 does not reduce recoil. It makes a tighter bullet pattern but the recoil remains exactly the same. I am pretty sure there are plenty of videos on youtube proving this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Kebab Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 I've never heard that the rds or holo on a gun makes it more/less powerful. On the m16 its a 2 bullet kills w/ stopping power, whether its a rds or holo. Also the holo on the m16 does not reduce recoil. It makes a tighter bullet pattern but the recoil remains exactly the same. I am pretty sure there are plenty of videos on youtube proving this. Well Call of Duty wikia says so and I'd rather trust them than a private user... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC B0B x360a Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Well Call of Duty wikia says so and I'd rather trust them than a private user... I usually trust my eyes and what I see when watching a video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i NatrlKilla i Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Well Call of Duty wikia says so and I'd rather trust them than a private user... That can be edited by anyone. I could edit it to say anything I want. However... I usually trust my eyes and what I see when watching a video. I'm almost certain the FAL does become a 2 hit kill weapon with a Holo site on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC B0B x360a Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 I'm almost certain the FAL does become a 2 hit kill weapon with a Holo site on it. Very True. I forgot to mention that. That is the only gun that I know of, which becomes strong with a sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnout x360a Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 I quite like holographic due to the large reticule it comes with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Kebab Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 That can be edited by anyone. I could edit it to say anything I want. However... I'm almost certain the FAL does become a 2 hit kill weapon with a Holo site on it. Of course you can edit it, but it won't stay up very long thanks to Admins. Many pages have also been locked from editing because of people editing fasle information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbgvirus Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 red dot in my opinion the holo is just too big Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Kebab Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 red dot in my opinion the holo is just too big Holo fits great on some weapons though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnout x360a Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Holo fits great on some weapons though I <3 the holographic on the M16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburgerous Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 I like this topic as it highlight the two types of people that post here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squidlor Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Depends on the gun, for some I prefer red dot and others I prefer holographic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firesilk Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Personally I think iron sights are best because when looking through holo or rds, it brings up stuff around it so it blocks your field of vision, then theres the whole deal about it not being centered n such...so i never really messed with either save for completion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rikkeh105 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 I like both, but Red Dot ftw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamefreakx89 Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 I hate holographic so I would prefer red dot. Tho i mainly use iron sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGC GrizzlyBear Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 I usually will use the red dot sight, as it is easier to see around the sight. The one exception is the FAL. When it has the holographic and Stopping Power, it is a 2 shot kill (unless the target is on a painpill), with one-shot headshots at medium to close range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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