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I would have liked to see an unpredictable response but I saw the evolution thing coming from a mile away.

 

1) If we adhered to our evolutionary instincts all the time then, by extension, you should have no problem having me (I'm hypothetically poor) come to your house and murdering you while stealing everything you own. I mean, my instincts is to look out for myself at all times.

 

2) But I disagree that evolutionary instincts are that powerful. Conditioning is far more powerful, in my opinion, than evolutionary attributes. That's why we have created society how it is: there's some order and things, as I like to think optimistically, are always getting better. That's because rational thinking and avoiding being a primitive being prevents me from coming to your house and murdering you because I'm down and out.

 

3) Also, don't confuse selfishness with evolution. You don't have to assume that all manga-lovers are a waste of time. You don't have to do anything. Attributing it to evolution as to avoid making yourself look like a primitive human being is just called deflection. You're allowed to this opinion, obviously, but you can prevent thinking like that. You just choose to think like this at no fault of evolution.

 

 

I have labelled your paragraphs for an simpler response.

 

1) You are correct, and I would have no problem with this whatsoever; as long as I was able to do it too. Also, do not forget that I can still support the ideal world without being the perfect specimen of evolution.

 

2) Conditioning, when used in conjunction with evolution is a good thing. My entire 'fire is dangerous' example was based around conditioning, not evolution. However, as the 'superior' species, we condition all sorts of silly things that damage our evolutionary progress. We condition 'feelings' which results is us damaging the gene pool by breeding with/saving the life of weak gened humans. We condition 'morals' which stop us from invading other countries to advance them. Where would England be now if the Romans hadn't invaded and built roads, aqueducts and baths? Just imagine if someone had stopped them from invading - citing it was an unjust war.

 

3) Again, my Manga hating example wasn't evolutionary based as the hatred does not lie in my genes. My hatred comes from self-conditioning.

 

I have had this discussion with so many different types of people over the years, a great number of which ending up agreeing with the majority of my points. My closing argument would be this:

 

How many lions are born with, or develop cancer? Virtually none.

Why? Because they breed properly, having evolutionary advancement as their main aim.

 

Humans do not, and as a result, in the year 3000 everyone will have some sort of genetic disease. Cancer numbers are continuing to rise, and while we can blame it on mobile phones/bad diets etc, the true cause of the rise of cancer is the fact that people with cancer breed. The standard counter argument is that science will find a cure for cancer, and while that may be true, the point remains we will always be very susceptible to genetic diseases as we breed for 'love', not advancement.

 

I guess if my name is mentioned I fall under the annoying category :-). I don't dislike you Titan, if you got that impression.

 

As I have mentioned before - I don't find you annoying 50% of the time, but because you do annoy me sometimes, I have remembered your name.

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Because poor grammar and spelling reflects badly upon the writer. It makes you seem less intelligent.

 

I see you used the word "seem." So, if someone uses bad spelling and grammar it doesn't necessarily make them unintelligent. So why follow through with the prejudice if it is unfounded and unreliable?

 

I have labelled your paragraphs for an simpler response.

 

1) You are correct, and I would have no problem with this whatsoever; as long as I was able to do it too. Also, do not forget that I can still support the ideal world without being the perfect specimen of evolution.

 

2) Conditioning, when used in conjunction with evolution is a good thing. My entire 'fire is dangerous' example was based around conditioning, not evolution. However, as the 'superior' species, we condition all sorts of silly things that damage our evolutionary progress. We condition 'feelings' which results is us damaging the gene pool by breeding with/saving the life of weak gened humans. We condition 'morals' which stop us from invading other countries to advance them. Where would England be now if the Romans hadn't invaded and built roads, aqueducts and baths? Just imagine if someone had stopped them from invading - citing it was an unjust war.

 

3) Again, my Manga hating example wasn't evolutionary based as the hatred does not lie in my genes. My hatred comes from self-conditioning.

 

I have had this discussion with so many different types of people over the years, a great number of which ending up agreeing with the majority of my points. My closing argument would be this:

 

How many lions are born with, or develop cancer? Virtually none.

Why? Because they breed properly, having evolutionary advancement as their main aim.

 

Humans do not, and as a result, in the year 3000 everyone will have some sort of genetic disease. Cancer numbers are continuing to rise, and while we can blame it on mobile phones/bad diets etc, the true cause of the rise of cancer is the fact that people with cancer breed. The standard counter argument is that science will find a cure for cancer, and while that may be true, the point remains we will always be very susceptible to genetic diseases as we breed for 'love', not advancement.

 

As I have mentioned before - I don't find you annoying 50% of the time, but because you do annoy me sometimes, I have remembered your name.

 

Can't counterpoint that. I wouldn't want that solely based on believing that we are more than just animals. Evolution gifted humans with a brain so complex and functional that I see absolutely no reason to dabble in such archaic and primitive ways, e.g. murdering someone for money. I am socialist so that pretty much makes our views incompatible. ;) Nice discussion, though.

 

On the cancer point, I cannot deny that breeding has something to do with it. On the flip side, diet and chemicals have a huge place in it, I think bigger than breeding. Lions eat the way their ancestors ate: good ol' meat. They consume no processed foods and don't breathe in chemicals constantly while also getting adequate exercise. A Lion can grab a branch with its mouth that is 9-10 feet in the air.

 

Humans consume insane quantities of sugar (17% of the American caloric intake is sugar) as well as very few things nutritious. Top that with the constant need to make life easier (think DDT and how they used to spray it on people) and you have a recipe of disaster. Also can't forget that most people can't go up a stair of flights without being breathless. Sure, breeding with people who don't have cancer is a good idea but you can prevent others from getting cancer by altering their lifestyle.

 

P.S. I'm glad you remember my name now. It's an honour.

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Can't counterpoint that. I wouldn't want that solely based on believing that we are more than just animals. Evolution gifted humans with a brain so complex and functional that I see absolutely no reason to dabble in such archaic and primitive ways, e.g. murdering someone for money. I am socialist so that pretty much makes our views incompatible. ;) Nice discussion, though.

 

On the cancer point, I cannot deny that breeding has something to do with it. On the flip side, diet and chemicals have a huge place in it, I think bigger than breeding. Lions eat the way their ancestors ate: good ol' meat. They consume no processed foods and don't breathe in chemicals constantly while also getting adequate exercise. A Lion can grab a branch with its mouth that is 9-10 feet in the air.

 

Humans consume insane quantities of sugar (17% of the American caloric intake is sugar) as well as very few things nutritious. Top that with the constant need to make life easier (think DDT and how they used to spray it on people) and you have a recipe of disaster. Also can't forget that most people can't go up a stair of flights without being breathless. Sure, breeding with people who don't have cancer is a good idea but you can prevent others from getting cancer by altering their lifestyle.

 

P.S. I'm glad you remember my name now. It's an honour.

 

You are, of course, correct in that bad lifestyle choices, such as diet, end up playing a huge part in causing the world problems. But it was an certainly an interesting debate.

 

P.S You hadn't actually annoyed me yet so I didn't know your name, but to honour you being the first person not to run for the hills screaming 'troll' at my posts, I will make the effort to remember it.

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Don't stop now, I was enjoying your debate. It made it quite an interesting thread and it was also refreshing that it didn't turn into a session of who has the biggest... well you know what I mean.

 

Have to agree. Although I have no idea whatsoever what it was about. It was swirling in all directions. However I saw a different Titan in this thread. From my interpretation that is.

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Have to agree. Although I have no idea whatsoever what it was about. It was swirling in all directions. However I saw a different Titan in this thread. From my interpretation that is.

 

No idea why you would think I'm being different. Vladimirk cried like a little girl when I had an almost identical argument with him. He, and others, couldn't have decided I was a troll faster.

 

Since the internet invented the word 'troll', anyone who has a controversial view point is then labelled as such. It's quite boring and pathetic.

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Forgot about the word "troll." Generally, people don't like a person who differs in opinion. Emotions cloud a person's judgment and generally creates a clouded and unreliable argument.

 

I've been off the forums for quite sometime, so I don't know who's who these days.

 

Relating to the topic at hand, I usually base my interpretation on someone's likes (and dislikes) and avatar. For example, this person who is obsessed with Japanese anime, oriental culture, has a tag and various internet names that is oriental, and so forth, had me picturing an individual who was oriental. Not only that, his Xbox avatar has an oriental person dressed in oriental clothing. Low and behold, just a white kid from New York. Kind of reminds of a man saying he's trapped in a woman's body.

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We condition 'feelings' which results is us damaging the gene pool by breeding with/saving the life of weak gened humans. We condition 'morals' which stop us from invading other countries to advance them.

 

I hope you realize what you're saying. A world without morals would be horrid. It would be the dark ages all over again, only worse. If we didn't have morals or feelings, we'd be too busy raping and murdering each other to get anything accomplished. Without laws in place, who in their right, unfeeling, immoralized mind would want to work? No one. Not a single person. If morals and feelings disappeared tomorrow, the only thing people would be doing is eating, sleeping, and screwing. You actually think scientists would keep being scientists if the world lost all morality, feeling, and the laws were just thrown out? Think again.

 

And why would we bother invading anybody? Why do you invade a country? To gain fame? You have no feelings, so who cares. To get access to it's resources? You can just rob and murder someone; no need. To liberate it? We have no morals, so they can fend for themselves. Fuck 'em, right?

 

the true cause of the rise of cancer is the fact that people with cancer breed. the point remains we will always be very susceptible to genetic diseases as we breed for 'love', not advancement.

 

I hope you're not saying that people who've had cancer shouldn't breed. If you are saying that, you're an asshole!

 

And you are god damn right we breed for love. If I had to choose between a woman with perfect genes, whom I hated, and a woman with horrible genes, whom I loved, I would breed with the woman I loved. No contest. If we ever stop doing that in my lifetime, I will kill myself. I wouldn't even think twice, I would be done with this world. If this little utopian society of yours actually took hold, the human race would be fucked. Put simply, we would be be a bunch of cavemen. Instead of caves, we'd have apartments, and instead of sticks & stones, we'd use guns. Future cavemen, if you will.

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I hope you realize what you're saying. A world without morals would be horrid. It would be the dark ages all over again, only worse. If we didn't have morals or feelings, we'd be too busy raping and murdering each other to get anything accomplished. Without laws in place, who in their right, unfeeling, immoralized mind would want to work? No one. Not a single person. If morals and feelings disappeared tomorrow, the only thing people would be doing is eating, sleeping, and screwing. You actually think scientists would keep being scientists if the world lost all morality, feeling, and the laws were just thrown out? Think again.

 

And why would we bother invading anybody? Why do you invade a country? To gain fame? You have no feelings, so who cares. To get access to it's resources? You can just rob and murder someone; no need. To liberate it? We have no morals, so they can fend for themselves. Fuck 'em, right?

 

 

 

I hope you're not saying that people who've had cancer shouldn't breed. If you are saying that, you're an asshole!

 

And you are god damn right we breed for love. If I had to choose between a woman with perfect genes, whom I hated, and a woman with horrible genes, whom I loved, I would breed with the woman I loved. No contest. If we ever stop doing that in my lifetime, I will kill myself. I wouldn't even think twice, I would be done with this world. If this little utopian society of yours actually took hold, the human race would be fucked. Put simply, we would be be a bunch of cavemen. Instead of caves, we'd have apartments, and instead of sticks & stones, we'd use guns. Future cavemen, if you will.

 

Oh shit, there goes the neighbourhood, and by neighbourhood I do of course mean intelligent discussion.

 

Everything you just said has already been addressed. Unfortunately you don't seem to have the broad understanding that PerpetualHeaven had, therefore I refuse to engage you.

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I see you used the word "seem." So, if someone uses bad spelling and grammar it doesn't necessarily make them unintelligent. So why follow through with the prejudice if it is unfounded and unreliable?

It doesn't necessairly make you less intelligent, but it certainly doesn't help your cause. And on forums, the written word is the primary form of communication. If you cannot communicate well, I'm not even going to attempt to read what you're saying. Arrogant perhaps, but that's the way it works. Why else have a sticky on this very forum talking about site grammar? ;)

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I've never seen someone with more of a God complex on these forums...I wasn't going to say anything, but the more I read his posts...the more he comes off as a noble amongst peasants (at least, that's what he thinks he is). Granted: I don't like a majority of people on this planet either, but at least I have the common courtesy to let them continue their ignorance elsewhere. I don't pride myself off of trying to prove I'm better than them...because, then in all reality, I would be worse. Do THEY care about being godlike in comparison to me? Probably not, if they have any opinions they're probably drull and without a doubt useless...yet I'll ignore them and let them be on their marry way. But most just don't give a damn, so it all works out in the end.

 

I fail to see what "humour" there is to get from your posts. If being a egotistical asshole counts as "hah-hah" funny, I missed the part where you were entertaining. I think the reason everyone labels you as a troll is rooted from your personality: you treat everyone except those that agree with you as inferior and thus you are nothing more than a fanboy of superiority. If you had done this with any subject, like disputing a game character or something, you'd act the same way...this is just your fanboyism for conservatism pushing everyone who disagrees with you into a pot that says "ignore".

 

Strange though...I feel like you now, wasting my time typing a message to someone that should be ignored. Of course it could matter less to you, you've chosen a life where you play the asshole and the few supporters are "worthy of being in your presence" while the rest of us have to wallow around in the shit just to get a fresh breathe of air. I've chosen a life where I'd rather be friendly than negative, so this is a rare occassion where I'd actually insult (sorry, these words are probably bouncing off your ego) someone to try and get a point across. If you like, I could use the stereotype of an idot and say UR MOM (which might as well be the "summed up" version you pick out, having ignored most of the message and choosing that as your basis for a quote).

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