Steadysphere Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 (edited) Please note this is work in progress. I do have a lot of DLC, and I'll add any songs I come across, but I can't remember every song with a lot of HO/POs, so rather than ranting at me to fix this, please just help me by informing me politely. What is the HOPO-Cidal Maniac Achievement? This achievement worth 25 gamerscore is for hitting a whopping 53,596 Hammer-ons and Pulloffs. You must not strum them for them to count, and it must be on guitar. Obviously this is a lot of work, but you can cut down some of your time by playing these songs, which have moderate to heavy use of HOPOs. If a song is green like this, it is fairly easy even for players of lower skill. If a song is orange like this, it means that a skilled player shouldn't break a sweat but if you are new to this game you may have trouble. If a song is red like this, it means that you should take caution with these songs if you are an average player as they are difficult to even pass. RB3 Songs Everybody Wants to Rule the World Break on Through (To the Other Side) In The Meantime Crosstown Traffic Saturday's Alright For Fighting Something Bigger, Something Brighter Freebird Rainbow in the Dark Before I Forget 25 or 6 to 4 Jerry Was a Race Car Driver DLC (Price) Laid to Rest (160msp) Chiron (160msp) Less Talk More Rokk (80msp) The Metal (160msp) Bulletproof (160msp) Inside the Fire (160msp) Woman (160msp) Hallowed Be Thy Name (160msp) Love Spreads (160msp) Guns of Summer (160msp) Satch boogie (160msp) Joker and the Thief (160msp) YYZ (160msp) Tha Shnizit (160msp) Levitate (160msp) Caprici Di Diablo (160msp) Rude Mood (160msp) Hanger 18 (160msp) China Cat Sunflower (160msp) My Last Words (160msp) My Name is Jonas (160msp) Blue Sky (160msp) The Way that it Shows (160msp) Synchronicity II (160msp) Tuesday's Gone (160msp) Godzilla (160msp) Are You Dead Yet (160msp) Waking the Demon (160msp) Nightmare (A7X) (160msp) Another Way to Die (160msp) Aesthetics of Hate (160msp) Hysteria (160msp) Afterlife (160msp) Lucretia (160msp) The Entertainer (160msp) Sweet Home Alabama (160msp) Sleepwalker (160msp) She's always a Woman (160msp) Through the Fire and the Flames (160msp) Check My Brain (160msp) Landslide (160msp) Made of Scars (160msp) Gasoline (160msp) Tweezer (160msp) Stash (160msp) Burn It To the Ground (160msp) Walk (Pantera) (160msp) Black (160msp) Even Flow (160msp) Do You Feel Like We Do (160msp) Rattlesnake Shake (bordering on Red) (160msp) Unholy Confessions (160msp) Welcome to the Family (160msp) Hypnotize (160msp) Aerials (160msp) Two Weeks (160msp) The Trooper (160msp) Giddy on Up (160msp) Writing on the Walls (160msp) RB2 Bodhisttva Painkiller Panic Attack Alabama Getaway Spirit in the Sky Alive Ramblin' Man Shackler's Revenge RB2 Free 20 Prequel to the Sequel Like a Fool I Wanna Be Your Man Ashes to Fire RB1 Green Grass and High Tides Flirtin' With Disaster Outside Vasoline Timmy and the Lords of the Underworld Lego Rock Band Dig Grace Rock Band Network (Price) Push Push (Lady Lightning) (80msp) Persistence of Vision (80msp) Tripolette (160msp) Laceration (80msp) Modern Mathematics (80msp) Guitar Sound Guitars Sucks (160msp) Betty and Me (160msp) Special Effects (80msp) We Collide (beginners may need no-fail for the intro) (160msp) Dogs can Grow Beards All Over (160msp) A Christmas Rock Medley (80msp) Cameleon Carneval (160msp) Veil of Illumination (Part 1) (160msp) Veil of Illumination (Part 2) (160msp) For The Love of God (160msp) Hangman (80msp) Obfusication (160msp) Dreamchaser (160msp) Henchman Ride (160msp) Edited December 12, 2011 by Steadysphere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester0700 Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 "The Metal" and "Bulletproof" are good ones to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blurbia Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Yeah "The Metal", "Inside the Fire", and "Woman" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A CATSHOVEL Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 I'm not sure how much effort it would take, but it would be cool if you could add the song length to HOPO ratio for songs. I think "Hallowed Be Thy Name (Live)" by Iron Maiden has quite a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadysphere Posted November 5, 2010 Author Share Posted November 5, 2010 Thanks for the suggestion guys, added them to the list. I haven't got time to work on it now, because I'm off to school in a few, but I'll get to work on adding ratios. I assume this is the kind of thing you mean... GGaHT with a ratio of 11 (length) to about 8 (lots of hammer-ons in both of it's epic solos). I'd write it like this 11:8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psymatiq Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Just play the game... got like 45 k atm and havent even focused on the cheevie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monstor Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Just play the game... got like 45 k atm and havent even focused on the cheevie. You come on an a website about achievements and say that. Llama by Phish Rainbow in the Dark by Dio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigApple3AM Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Bang Camaro - Push Push (Lady Lightning) 80 points Tons of HOPOs, pretty easy to play on hard, and can be used for "Shameless Self-Promotion" cheeve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psymatiq Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 (edited) You come on an a website about achievements and say that. Llama by Phish Rainbow in the Dark by Dio cause ived focused on everything else and just came back to watch how far the hopo was and it was at 45 k. A full song of less talk more rokk gave me around 1 k ish hopos btw.. something close to that when i got 99% notes hit. Hopo songs Love spreads - DLC Persistence of vision - RBN Prequel to the Sequel - 20 FREE DLC Tripolette - RBN Guns of Summer - DLC Satch boogie - DLC Laceration - RBN Edited November 5, 2010 by psymatiq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelton Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 GGaHT with a ratio of 11 (length) to about 8 (lots of hammer-ons in both of it's epic solos). I'd write it like this 11:8 Just say how long the song is and how many hammer-ons/pull-offs there are in the song. I'm sure people will be able to figure out the average amount per minute, based on those figures. Unless they failed basic math... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaynringan Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Does using the tiny buttons to play hopo in solos count as "not strumming"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeakyBung Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 DLC Hysteria by Muse 160msp. A lot of HOPO's in this song, especially on bass. I would venture to guess somewhere around 800 notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlmightyZing Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 DLC Hysteria by Muse 160msp. A lot of HOPO's in this song, especially on bass. I would venture to guess somewhere around 800 notes. hitting about 95% on bass gives you about 600 so that estimate isn't too far off. this is what i'll be doing to get mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadysphere Posted November 5, 2010 Author Share Posted November 5, 2010 Hysteria on bass would be good, but it's under guitar goals so as far as I'm aware it can only be done on guitar. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Also, I have no clue if hammer-ons count if you use the solo buttons, I'm gonna research it and let you know. As for the average ratio, it would be quite difficult to do if I have to count every hammer-on in a song because some of these songs I may not actually own, so how would i count it if I don't own it? Have added all the suggestions above to this list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester0700 Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Another good song for the achievment is "Joker and the thief." If your a skilled expert player then its a good pick, but it could be a challange at the first playthrough or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeakyBung Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Some more songs for guitar are: RB2 Bodhisattva - Steely Dan RB2 Pain Killer - Judas Preist DLC YYZ - Rush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadysphere Posted November 5, 2010 Author Share Posted November 5, 2010 Added the last three suggestions, and also added a colour code system to the list which ranks them on difficulty. See OP for details. Also can someone inform me what Laceration is like on guitar? I don't have that song myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monstor Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Here are a couple other good ones, I'll use your color system too! Modern Mathematics - Terrorhorse RBN Tha Shiznit - Snoop Dogg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spade422 Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 if you are really good (were talking like best of the best) and want to get this fast: - Caprici Di Diablo (DLC - Yngwie Malmsteen's Rising Force) - Rude Mood (DLC - Stevie Ray Vaughn) - Hangar 18 (DLC - Megadeth) i recommend no fail for any of these Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didi Mau Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 I'm not sure how much effort it would take, but it would be cool if you could add the song length to HOPO ratio for songs. I think "Hallowed Be Thy Name (Live)" by Iron Maiden has quite a few. "Chiron" is 4:24 and gives an average of 800 HOPO's per run, though that's the only one I know specifically. I think it's safe to say that Less Talk More Rokk is the best song for this, as it's 4:59 and has about 1,000 HOPO's per run with an easy pattern for the fingers to play (it's also very cheap to buy at 80msp). Random things to add from my experience with the achievement; I got 20,000 HOPO's from doing all the individual guitar goals and the Endless Setlist III, so you may as well do them first if you're a completionist. The achievement itself is actually very easy to get if you decide to grind the songs, playing a strong HOPO-based chart can get you the achievement in under six hours if you start from scratch and under 3.5 hours if you get the other guitar goals done before grinding. I relate it to the 10,000 scratches/5,000 crossfades in DJ Hero, it's a lot less daunting than it sounds. Just play the game... got like 45 k atm and havent even focused on the cheevie. Not everyone enjoys playing the guitar, I certainly don't even though I'm well above average at it. I'll never have as much fun flailing fingers as I do hitting the crap out of my drums, so it's nice to just get these achievements out of the way fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadysphere Posted November 6, 2010 Author Share Posted November 6, 2010 Added caprici, rude and hanger 18 to the list, and I also played levitate by I mother earth (metal pack exclusive) and that had quite a lot of hammer-ons in it, not too hard to play either though not as easy as Tears for Fears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SebastianSB Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 Hysteria on bass would be good, but it's under guitar goals so as far as I'm aware it can only be done on guitar. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Definitely true. You can't do any goals on the wrong instrument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartlesdalegend Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 Alabama getaway from RB2 has quite a few also and its very easy and quite short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falk3r Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 This list REALLY needs total song length and total possible HOPO's, otherwise it's just a bunch of speculation as far as I'm concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SebastianSB Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 This list REALLY needs total song length and total possible HOPO's, otherwise it's just a bunch of speculation as far as I'm concerned. I hereby volunteer you to watch every single guitar chart on the list and count every single one of the thousands of HO/POs yourself. Personally, I'm just going to play them all (that I have) and see how close I am by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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