Thinreaper Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Nowhere near as good or as fun. Am i the only one who feels like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CunningFox Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Youre not he only one. Im not personally but some people do prefer to keep it very simple so fair enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starmud Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 I don't think it sucks, but I prefer Banjo-Kazooie any day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightTied Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 I admit, it isn't as good as the first one. Maybe because I've never played it before unlike Banjo Kazooie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coadster1 Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 I wouldn't say that it sucks, it may not be as fun, but I still like them both alot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deleted2014-12-02 Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Banjo-Kazooie is stale to me, Banjo-Tooie is much more fun. Especially because you don't need to hunt down 100 notes and just 16 note nest and one treble clef. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AjL227 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Both are good. I think we can all agree that the new one is a complete mess, compared to either of these legendary games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Coxwell Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 I actually kind of consider them the same game. I mean Banjo Tooie goes basically right off of the ending of Banjo Kazooie so smoothly I just count it as like Part2. So few games transition so well. Plus starting out with all your moves and gain new ones? Never seen that before Banjo-Tooie. Though i agree that BanjoTooie is not as great as Banjo-Kazooie, I don't believe either are bad. Much better than most retail games out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnac323 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 There both great games. But to be honest, Banjo Tooie KILLS the first one any day. Much longer also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakisbac Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 I could never say it sucks, although like many I found the first more enjoyable. I will, however, agree that the note collecting in the first game is too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjc0961 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Nowhere near as good or as fun. Am i the only one who feels like this? Agreed 100%. Just 5 more achievements and then I can forget that I bought Tooie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockin141 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 I honestly feel number one is superior too number two... but nuts and bolts on the other hand... what a disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakisbac Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 I haven't given that game much of a chance, but even I think what i've played so far has been pretty good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allen t is on Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 i like tooie alot more but i do like kazooie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RinkXing Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 I only believe the first one is better because of nostalgia and the magical feeling your get from experiencing the game for the first time. The second is superior in almost every way, but I'll always like the first one more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob0 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 I like Banjo-Kazooie miles better than Banjo-Tooie. Sure BT is alot longer and has some fun minigames but I just much prefer the more fun and laid back nature of the first game, BT gets a bit complex and frustrating at times. I especially prefer the music in BK aswell. Back in the N64 days I finished the first game 100% about 5 times and only finished the second game once. My opinion has not changed all these years later. Everything about BK is better to me. Still both games are awesome and destroy the awful excuse for a game that is Nut's and Bolts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodist Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 I definitely prefer the first game, but how I feel for Tooie, I'm not sure. When I first got the original I loved it played it, beat it. Came back to it a few years later, got 100% on it, then did it again without delay when the XBLA version came out. I've briefly played Tooie before, I actually own it on N64 but I never finished it, I just stopped playing it. I'm trying to get through it now on XBLA, but it can get a bit complicated at times. Some people may say its just to offer a challenge, but even when using a guide (I got this mini-guide book ages ago with my N64 copy so I'm putting it to good use) I still get confused a lot of the time. I do like how each level connects, but I think some levels rely on abilities earned later on too much. Essentially, I'm getting a little bored of Tooie, but I've almost finished it so I guess I should at least do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinreaper Posted May 11, 2009 Author Share Posted May 11, 2009 Exodist just summed up exactly how i felt about Tooie! I also had it on N64 and never bothered finishing it, but i was excited about it coming out on XBLA so i could give it another go, as i loved playing Kazooie again after all these years But about a couple of hours in (after the extremely long and boring opening cutscene) i remembered why i didn't like the game that much. The levels are waaay too long, overly complicated and in the later worlds you spend ages wondering around a level trying to find something you can actually do as they all seem to involve moves you haven't learnt yet. Making worlds really big and complex does not = challenge or fun. It's just poor game design imo which is why i didnt like what Rare did with Donkey Kong 64 either. Banjo Kazooie was simple yet hugely enjoyable and that is what makes a good 3d platformer imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epik499 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 This is my first game of the franchise and I cannot see the appeal to it. Maybe back in the day... but by todays standards, yuck. Thankfully I only played part of the demo and didn't waste the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodist Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 I've almost done it, I only need to do the Sabreman achievement and then I'll probably go and pick up a few more jiggies so I can go fight Grunty, once I beat it I'll probably leave it alone. I may go back to it later and finish it off properly, but the levels are just too daunting and confusing. Its a good game but no where near as fun as the original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakisbac Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 IIRC you need all 90 jiggies to fight Grunty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK English Jash Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 My mates have said the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinreaper Posted May 11, 2009 Author Share Posted May 11, 2009 You only need 70 to face Grunty, i did it this morning I think it's 70 anyway, DEFINITELY under 80 and not 90, i missed loads of jiggies, especially on Grunty Industries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinTacular Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 It's 70 jiggies. My feelings about Tooie ? In my opinion it's the better one. The massive levels and their interconnectedness was a huge step and took BK to another level. The splitting of the duo, variety of eggs, Mumbo as a playable character, cooler moves (not forgetting individual moves), more creative transformations, multiplayer... I can go on why Tooie is the superior one of the two. Banjo-Kazooie is an excellent game but Tooie is just a bit better. Rare in it's prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjc0961 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Both are good. I think we can all agree that the new one is a complete mess, compared to either of these legendary games. Not a chance. Nuts and Bolts might not be your standard platformer, but what it does do, it does very well and is quite a unique and fun game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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