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Old 12-29-2008, 08:24 PM   #1
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The Endless Setlist 2 Questions - Answers Here



The Endless Setlist 2 - Questions & Answers

Most of this is covered in the Rock Band 2 - F.A.Q, but people usually overlook that as it doesn't shout "Look at me, I have Endless Setlist questions in here!"
For the people who haven't read the F.A.Q, I'd recommend you have a read through it, it may answer a few questions you didn't even ask yet: Rock Band 2 - F.A.Q

So here are a few questions I've seen asked before:

Q: How do you unlock the Endless Setlist 2?
A: You need 900 stars in the Tour to unlock ES2. It will show up in Shangai, the city where you do the Rock Immortals setlist.

Q: How long does the ES2 take to complete?
A: Well at 84 songs, it's not a quick 5 minuter. It takes around 6 hours and 15 minutes if you play non-stop.

Q: Can the ES2 be done on any instrument?
A: Yes, you can do the ES2 as a drummer, vocalist, guitarist or a bassist.

Q: How is the ES2 tiered?
A: The setlist is tiered exactly the same as it is in Quickplay, i.e you start from the top of the list (The easiest songs) and work your way down to the bottom (The hardest songs) ending with Painkiller.

Q: Can I save my progress in the ES2 and come back to it later?
A: This is a no as it would make the whole thing a lot easier. You can pause if you aren't going for the Bladder of Steel, but if you plan on leaving it on overnight, please make sure that your 360 isn't set to turn off after 6 hours of inactivity.

Q: Can I turn on No Fail to beat the ES2 and get my Achievements/Instrument Icons?
A: No, No Fail disables saving, achievements and Xbox Live.

Q: Can the ES2 be done over Xbox Live?
A: Yes it can but I wouldn't recommend it, what with the whole losing connection problems

Q: When will I get the Achievements for beating the setlist?
A: After you finish the setlist, you will be taken to the end results screen, then once the game has saved you will get your Achievements. So if your HDD/MU screws up and will not let you save, sorry but all your hard work was for nothing... (Credit to BloodlessPlain for this as he was unlucky enough to have it happen to him )

Q: If I fail a song, will I have to start back at the beginning of the setlist?
A: No, you simply replay the song, but failing will void the Bladder of Steel Achievement.

Q: Do the difficulty Achievements stack?
A: Yes. (Stacking means that if you play Expert, you will unlock all 3 ES2 Achievements as Expert is higher than the others. The same goes for Hard but you will not unlock Platinum Artist as Hard is lower than Expert)

Q: Is DLC included in the ES2?
A: No.

Q: If I play Expert but my friend plays Hard/Medium, what will happen?

A: If your friend plays anything lower than you, then at the end of the setlist, you'll only unlock the Achievement for the difficulty he was on plus any below that. So if you played Expert but your friend played Hard, at the end of it all, you will unlock Gold Artist and Vinyl Artist. If he played Medium you'd only unlock Vinyl Artist.

Q: Can I repeat the ES2?
A: Yes, the ES2 can be repeated as many times as you want, which is useful if you missed the BoS the first, second, third, or millionth time around.

Q: Can the Bladder of Steel be done on any difficulty?
A: Yes it can, but the ES2 Achievements start at Medium.

Q: What counts as pausing?
A: Everything that stops the note chart, except the game freezing for a while

Q: How can I minimise the chances of hitting the Guide Button/ Start Button?

"LLC2003" posted a nice solution to minimise hitting the Guide/ Start Button on the drums. It is as follows:

DRUMS:
- Take two egg cups / ramekin (or similar hard plastic/metal alternative)
- Try and remove as much as you can so you are just left with a dome shell - turn them upside down
- Cover both the guide button and start button
- secure down with brown/gaffer tape (wrap it under the kit)
(You could probably do this with bottle cap lids as well, but I'm not too sure yet.)
-- If anyone thinks of any for Guitar, please tell me. Though, hitting those buttons on a guitar has to be a rare occurence...

Q: Will I have any time for a bathroom break whilst trying for BoS?
A: There isn't much time for a bathroom break, but Griffinhollow made a good thread on ScoreHero to show when a bathroom break may be possible: Break List For Bladder of Steel

Q: Where abouts in the setlist is Visions?
A: Visions is the 82nd song. You may be tired when you get here so if you aren't confident that you'll pass it, save all your Overdrive until you really need it. After Visions, you have Panic Attack and then Painkiller.

That is pretty much everything that can be asked, but if you have any other questions just ask here.

And last but not least, good luck on your ES2 journey everyone. It's long, it's tiring, but it's oh so worth the adventure.
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Old 12-29-2008, 09:00 PM   #2
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finally, a FAQ for the endless setlist lol. no more topics, pleasee!!!!

You should add this question..

Q: If I fail a song, will I have to start at the beginning?
A: No, you simply replay the song.

REQUEST for sticky as well
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Old 12-29-2008, 09:08 PM   #3
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I completely forgot about that question I've added it in. I really hope that this thread will cut down the ES2 threads posted, but I won't hold my breath. This thread will more than likely be overlooked too...
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Old 12-29-2008, 09:18 PM   #4
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Thanks for posting this Jimmy. Now people can be even more justified in their condescension of the non-searching types, heh.

Seriously though, this is really helpful to have especially with all the new posters popping up lately (whom I'm assuming got the game for the holidays). Nicely done.
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Now if we could just get it stickied...
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Old 12-29-2008, 10:09 PM   #6
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Umm not to be a naysayer, but if they don't look at the FAQ that is already stickied and don't use the search, why do you think that they are going to look at this thread?
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Does playing bass mean you have them stupid strum lines like GH:WT? I haven't played bass in RB yet.
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Open notes (those purple line strum-only notes) are part of GH:WT. You won't see them in Rock Band.
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Now it seems a lot of people do not understand how the hell to search the forum but know exactly how to create a new thread. Well, that needs to stop, so I decided to create this thread for all the people who need answers to their questions.

Most of this is covered in the Rock Band 2 - F.A.Q, but people usually overlook that as it doesn't shout "Look at me, I have Endless Setlist questions in here!"
For the people who haven't read the F.A.Q, I'd recommend you have a read through it, it may answer a few questions you didn't even ask yet: Rock Band 2 - F.A.Q

So here are a few questions I've seen asked before:

Q: How do you unlock the Endless Setlist 2?
A: You need 900 stars in the Tour to unlock ES2. It will show up in Shangai, the city where you do the Rock Immortals setlist.

Q: How long does the ES2 take to complete?
A: Well at 84 songs, it's not a quick 5 minuter. It takes around 6 hours and 15 minutes if you play non-stop.

Q: How is the ES2 tiered?
A: The setlist is tiered exactly the same as it is in Quickplay, i.e you start from the top of the list (The easiest songs) and work your way down to the bottom (The hardest songs) ending with Painkiller.

Q: If I fail a song, will I have to start back at the beginning of the setlist?
A: No, you simply replay the song, but failing will void the Bladder of Steel Achievement.

Q: Do the difficulty Achievements stack?
A: Yes.

Q: Is DLC included in the ES2?
A: No.

Q: If I play Expert but my friend plays Hard/Medium, what will happen?

A: If your friend plays anything lower than you, then at the end of the setlist, you'll only unlock the Achievement for the difficulty he was on.

Q: Can the Bladder of Steel be done on any difficulty?
A: Yes it can, but the ES2 Achievements start at Medium.

Q: What counts as pausing?
A: Everything that stops the note chart, except the game freezing for a while

Q: Will I have any time for a bathroom break whilst trying for BoS?
A: There isn't much time for a bathroom break, but Griffinhollow made a good thread on ScoreHero to show when a bathroom break may be possible: Break List For Bladder of Steel

Q: Where abouts in the setlist is Visions?
A: Visions is the 82nd song. You may be tired when you get here so if you aren't confident that you'll pass it, save all your Overdrive until you really need it. After Visions, you have Panic Attack and then Painkiller.

That is pretty much everything that can be asked, but if you have any other questions just ask here.

Remember kids, only the forum searchers go to Heaven... I guess

Ugh Endless setlist took me 2 days????? I dont wanna do Endless Setlist 2!!! but I have to!!! one day when i have a free 6 hours...and 15 min
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Old 12-29-2008, 11:01 PM   #10
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Why did you quote the entire post?

This got stickied fast, how did they notice it so quickly?

I may edit it to get rid of the snarkiness, if I can be bothered
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Nice work. I haven't unlocked it yet but ill try 2 do all 4 achievements in one by doing the bass on expert.
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Old 12-30-2008, 09:45 PM   #13
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Nice work. I haven't unlocked it yet but ill try 2 do all 4 achievements in one by doing the bass on expert.
Good luck. Word to the wise ... make sure you can pass Visions on Expert (and remember you will be 6-hours-of-nonstop-playing exhausted by the time it rolls around). Not saying you, or anyone else can't do it, but I think a lot of people forget to factor in how playing at that level for 6 hours straight will play with your head and your muscle memory.
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I'm planning to play this with my brother next week. We have ended up with the same week off work so are meeting up to play this together. We will only do it in single player, and then if someone needs a break, the non-player will take over. Hopefully that way I can get the bladder of steel achievement too.
Just worried a bit about some of those insanely hard songs at the end that might cause us to fail after 6 hours of playing the game!!!
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Why did you quote the entire post?

This got stickied fast, how did they notice it so quickly?

I may edit it to get rid of the snarkiness, if I can be bothered
haha idk. and once you put endless setlist 2 everyone looked cause its a pain in the *** for everyone
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I had an idea earlier that I was wondering about. I know you can go for the 100% a song on expert achievement as long as any noise is being made into the mic (e.g. a fan) for the Beastie Boys song, but I was wondering if you'd still be able to pass all other songs using this technique? (not worrying about stars or %, just pass/fail). If so you could leave your 360 on for the entire time with your mic next to a fan or something and let it sail through the setlist as a vocalist. Even if it only works on medium it'd get you the medium achievement plus the bathroom break one.

I might give it a go later if nobody posts on here to say they've already tried and failed using this method.
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I had an idea earlier that I was wondering about. I know you can go for the 100% a song on expert achievement as long as any noise is being made into the mic (e.g. a fan) for the Beastie Boys song, but I was wondering if you'd still be able to pass all other songs using this technique? (not worrying about stars or %, just pass/fail). If so you could leave your 360 on for the entire time with your mic next to a fan or something and let it sail through the setlist as a vocalist. Even if it only works on medium it'd get you the medium achievement plus the bathroom break one.

I might give it a go later if nobody posts on here to say they've already tried and failed using this method.
Been suggested and tried many times. It doesn't work. You have to sing the songs.
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Old 03-02-2009, 08:07 PM   #20
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this is a bit of a joke i am not ever going to do it i cant sit there for 6 hours straight
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When Playing the song Whatcha whatch Want you can put the mic to the tv and get somthing to eat and go pee, Me and a frend were playing and thats what he did
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can i do the endless setlist by myself i know its probably dumb. and also if i can, can i just play bass and run through it or does it have to be on guitar,bass or vocals
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I nearly cried on my expert run when I hit the guide button (on drums) by accident on Colony of Birchmen (like the 76th song) and voided my BoS acheivement. I got it on medium vox a few days later though.
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Question, about the physical stress on the body. As an expert guitarist who ONLY downstrums, unless it's a crazy fast part, is there any..concern?
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Lol. This is great! I love Rock Band, but the ES2 kills me. I still need the Bladder Of Steel achievement though. Last one in rock band 2. If I go for it, I'm setting the difficulty to hard just soz I don't have to start over. Also because I already have the platinum artist achievement.
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I'm thinking of doing this for a 3rd time. I've had 1000g in RB2 for a while now, but I'm going to try and help my friend get his achievements.

1st attempt was on Hard drums as I wasn't very confident about Visions and Shoulder to the Plow on expert, but I got my bladder of steel and gold/vinyl achievements. 2nd attempt was on expert vocals; I passed everything 1st try except for Shackler's Revenge and Rob the Prez-o-dent, but completed both after 5 or so tries.

So now my friend is going to be on guitar, and I'll be on drums, both on expert. None of the later songs are a problem now, 94% on Visions, 97% on SttP, 99% on Battery. We won't be starting for maybe a couple of weeks, but I'll update at some point.
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Hardest song in this on guitar/bass is Chop Suey. Visions is easy compared to that.
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I'm sure this is a pretty stupid question...but I just wanna be sure. You don't have to be signed in to XBL do ya? I'm about to go for the it on Ex Vocals and I want to keep my internet connection on my computer in case I need anything.
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