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Old 05-09-2009, 01:34 AM   #1
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AMAZING Trick to Spider Farming!

This guide was written solely for the use of the good folks at Xbox360Achievements.org.
Do not replicate!

Howdy, folks!

Let me start by saying that this is not simply a tutorial on how to spider farm. It is a glitch that affects spider farming. I know, I know, glitching a glitch. Overkill, you say? Well, I'll let you decide, but I now swear by this technique.

Don't know how to Spider Farm? Read on!

Now, without further ado..

What is the glitch!?


This trick makes all drops, soon as they hit floor, come to you as if you were standing right next to them! No more waiting a minute when an epic drops, hell, no more waiting at all! No longer do you have to decide between a chance at an Aesir piece & money, or a quick spider farm.

How do I do it?


First, you need to kill GRNDL-01 from Hall of Heroes.

You can start from Section 1-3 -- GRNDL's Lair. So it won't take long.

When you get to GRNDL-01, kill him and get the items, then quit to Aesir. It's important that you don't let the game automatically take you to Aesir, you must manually press Start, and select "Go To Aesir."

Note:
Don't rush! You've got a good 10 seconds or so after GRNDL explodes before you get teleported back to Aesir automatically. Best wait until GRNDL's corpse is laying flat on the ground before you take yourself back.

With that done, load up 3-4 and..
  1. Proceed to the room with the two Trolls, Spider & the Cyberspace Well.
  2. Kill all the enemies in this room!
  3. As soon as the second troll bites the dust, dash over to spider farm door. Note: If you are going to do the glitch with Two(2) people, make sure only one of them is standing near the door when it opens.
  4. Wait patiently until it opens.
  5. Glitch ACTIVATED!
Note: If the loots don't instantly fly over to ya, you did something wrong. Refer to the Troubleshooting section.

You can now proceed to spider farm as normal. Each time the drops will instantly fly over to you.

What is Spider Farming?


This is simply a primer on how to Spider Farm in the first place. You should still use the method listed above.

Due to the surprising popularity of this glitch, I suppose I might as well go all out & address exactly what Spider Farming is, so everyone can benefit from this trick.

Spider Farming is the act of continually killing a certain Spider in the World Serpent level, Section 4. In level select it appears as 3-4.

To get to the Spider, start up 3-4 -- Offline or Online. Now, on your trek to get to the spider you're going to farm, you'll encounter a total of 3 Spiders, counting the one you're going to be farming. The first will be in a large area, and he'll be surrounded by Artillery goblins. The second Spider is 2 rooms after that Spider. This spider is in a room with 2 trolls & a Cyberspace Well off to the left. And last but not least, the Spider you're going farm is through a door in the room with the 2 trolls, Spider & the Cyberspace Well.

If you move just close enough to the door to open it, the Spider will not fire at you. Move too close, and a bunch of enemies will spawn -- In the room with the spider -- and the Spider will open fire. After you've killed the Spider, head back towards the Cyberspace Well, when the camera view changes, the spider has been reset.

Here's a nice video detailing how to kill/reset the spider.


I did not make the video, or have a hand in making it.

Troubleshooting:

Having trouble hitting the spider? Well, there are a number of ways to fix this. If you use a Cannon, grab Cannon Range Runes, if you use a Rifle, get Rifle Range runes. You can also spam grenades at the target. You could use Fierce attacks, as well, but that's pain in the ass to do, and I wouldn't recommend it. Laser rifles appear to have a longer range(Cannons too) so I'd recommend using one of those.
  • The glitch works in Multiplayer with One(1) or Two(2) players.
  • The glitch works in Single Player Mission Select, as well.
When going on a spider farming binge, you may notice that your gun has "Malfunctioned." By which I mean the sound of gunfire screws up. This is caused by the rapid rate at which you reload when spider farming(I believe). It really has no impact on gameplay, but it can be rather disconcerting. Don't panic! Just grab your towel, and let the game reload for you. Once your gun has begun to "Malfunction," the only way to fix it is to -- I believe -- turn off your Xbox. That's why you should stop it from happening in the first place, by not manually reloading!

So, try to let the game reload for you whenever possible. Once Baldur puts his weapon away, a second later you'll see your ammo bar start to increase. The game has reloaded for you. Naturally, if you're a slug user, you're likely reloading often, so this method of solving the above may not work for you. However, it doesn't happen to everyone, and it may not happen to you. Just figured I'd include my way of solving it.

It's rather hard to screw this glitch up, but hey, we'll go over the list, anyway.
  • You didn't kill GRNDL-01
  • You let the game automatically take you to Aesir
  • You chose to go back to Aesir too early
  • You chose to go back to Aesir too late. Note: This is really hard to do!
  • You were doing it with two(2) players and they were both standing next to the door.
If you were attempting the glitch with two(2) players, only one of them should open the door. The other should stand far away.

If you think you went back too early: Just wait for all the drops to come to you. You have plenty of time.


If you think you went back too late: As I noted earlier, it's quite hard to do this. If you're a melee class, you'll probably get your drops before GRNDL-01's body disappears, so wait for his body to disappear, then go back. Not earlier. Not later. If you're a ranged class, you'll probably get your drops just as he's disappearing, or has disappeared, in this case, go back(To Aesir) just after you've gotten your drops.

Find a way to screw it up that I haven't? send me a PM or post here and I'll gladly give you credit.


Thanks!

Why should I use the trick?


A good question.

Well, it's, hands down, the fastest way to get Aesir Pieces. It's also the second fastest way to get 7,500 drops achievement. Beaten only by spending $750,000 by buying 7,500 color modules, and being bored for an hour whilst getting your thumb hurt.

It's profitable! Not that money is an issue, but still, it's nice to have. Money has a direct impact on how cool you are, you'd do well to remember that.

Let's go over that one more time, because I like lists:
  • Best way to get Aesir pieces
  • Best way to get 7,500 drops achievement
  • Profitable!
Reasons you shouldn't do this:
  • You're planning to spider farm for less time than it takes you to kill GRNDL-01.
  • You have all the Aesir pieces & 7,500 drops achievement
  • You're allergic to money
Which would you rather do; the new way, or the old way?

Credits/Thanks/Mumbo Jumbo:


Thanks for everyone's support, and not trolling. I'm sorry it took me so long to figure this one out. And, of course, Xbox360A for giving us the resource to share our knowledge.

Thanks to everyone who has helped contribute to the guide! I had to remove them from the original guide. Random names here & there seemed quite out of place. So here they are, in alphabetical order:
  • Diabolic Ares
  • FlipSwitch
  • Richie Marley
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Old 05-09-2009, 02:28 AM   #2
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EDIT: My question has been answered in an update to the guide.
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Old 05-09-2009, 02:33 AM   #3
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UPDATE!

Added some useful information. Moved some things around..

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Old 05-09-2009, 03:22 AM   #4
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going to test this out soon. but just to clarify:

Once I kill the second troll I need to make sure I open the door to the spider farm room. Kill the spider and the loot will come directly to me? Im assuming it will come to me at the same time the loot the second troll comes.

Now I reset the spider, kill him, and the loot will come straight to me again?
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Old 05-09-2009, 03:57 AM   #5
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Once I kill the second troll I need to make sure I open the door to the spider farm room.
Yes. After killing the second troll, get to the door as fast you can, and wait for it to open. It's pretty hard to not get there in time. I usually end up waiting 5 or so seconds. That doesn't mean walk there, though.

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Kill the spider and the loot will come directly to me? Im assuming it will come to me at the same time the loot the second troll comes.
Yes. It's like you're standing right next to the spider. Soon as the loot hits the ground, it'll start heading your way. You'll hear the tick, tick, tick, like you would any other time you pick up an item.

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Now I reset the spider, kill him, and the loot will come straight to me again?
Correct.

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Old 05-09-2009, 12:17 PM   #6
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I'll be testing this as soon as, and if it doesnt work will also be experimenting with why not. Probably just a semi-colon in the wrong place in the game code ^^

Edit: Cant get this to work for me either. You say it worked for you on multiple occasions and then it stopping? How odd. Try to emember exactly how you did everything the first time and we will give this another shot.
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Old 07-02-2009, 03:12 PM   #7
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Im just starting the game but what level or how far into the game is this can you do it with a new char ?
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3rd level, about 4/5 of the way through it. Your best off finishing the game first, and then going back and doing this after completion when your tanking it to 50 / farming gear.

At lower levels, the gear you get from farming isnt really anything special and it really isnt worth it, as the hbigher you get the harder the campaign becomes.
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Im just starting the game but what level or how far into the game is this can you do it with a new char ?
Please refer to the section entitled: "What is Spider Farming?"

I believe you have to beat the level(World Serpent) first, before you can spider farm. Spider Farming is, in my opinion, the best way to level up. It can seem slow if you're solo, but it's still faster than other methods. Not to mention it's easy, and you can get some gear and make some nice bounty along the way.
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Oh aye, forgot to mention actually reading the guide. Facepalm.
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4.5 hours of farming and so far 5 red runes, 1 elite weapon, and 0 elite armor pieces, yes mad. lol
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Elite pieces take time. It's not designed to be easy to do, and it's also designed to encourage online interaction by means of trading for the armour sets. Same theory as fable II and the Dollcatcher, although Fable did a better job of the interaction adn a worse job of a reward.

Dont get mad at it, because thats how it was designed. Screw the samsung advert, patience is a virtue.
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I finished the game but I can't seem to find the option to select a map. If I choose campaign I start on the first map and can't choose any other maps either...

Anyone knows what I'm doing wrong?
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To select a mission to replay you just gotta use one of the terminals after loading up you single player and then theres another button to press to change form the map of aesir to mission select, cxant remember off the top of my head what it is, possibly Y or a buffer.
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Thanks for this, it works great!
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Been doing this for ages, over 42 hours playtime on main & haven't found a single piece of red armour.
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I believe itís quite random how the elite sets drop for your character. I did GRND runs from the beginning of the first level to end in order to have the tokens for over 25 times and did not get a single red piece (from elite set or not).

I purchased the weapon for my Cyber Commando from the shop. Doing the spider trick got me 3 out the 6 armor pieces (with a lot of grinding to be honest), 2 I got on the convey belts after the spider (I must have done 30 runs, not very much but it is time consuming to go back and forth to reach the spot again) and 1 on a spider before the one that we farm (I guess I was really lucky then!).

The bottom line is that at least for my character I got all of my armor pieces from 3-4 but Spider farming was the most effective and it is a great way to get all sort of red items and quickly level up if you haven't reached lvl 50 yet...
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I believe itís quite random how the elite sets drop for your character. I did GRND runs from the beginning of the first level to end in order to have the tokens for over 25 times and did not get a single red piece (from elite set or not).

I purchased the weapon for my Cyber Commando from the shop. Doing the spider trick got me 3 out the 6 armor pieces (with a lot of grinding to be honest), 2 I got on the convey belts after the spider (I must have done 30 runs, not very much but it is time consuming to go back and forth to reach the spot again) and 1 on a spider before the one that we farm (I guess I was really lucky then!).

The bottom line is that at least for my character I got all of my armor pieces from 3-4 but Spider farming was the most effective and it is a great way to get all sort of red items and quickly level up if you haven't reached lvl 50 yet...
Well can I borrow your armour set for the achievement then, I don't plan to play this game anymore once I hit 1k as quite frankly I'm sick of it, there will be no sequel, the whole polarity part ticks me off, ppl are greedy on random public games, I don't wanna waste my time on this game much longer & trying to find red runes takes forever.
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Thanks for this info, works perfectly!
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I love this! Mostly cuz the freakin' spiders are my most hated enemy in this game; they just piss me off somehow. The loot is nice too!
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Lovely post It works 100% in multiplayer, not sure on singleplayer since I am retarded and cant figure out how to jump from 1-3 to 3-4...

It gets a bit dull but isnt farming dull? The profit you get is worth it

One thing ive realized is that if you get too close to the door other mobs spawn so if you can figure out that invisible line, all the spider does is to sit and get owned by you.
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Okay. I think the guide needs more clarification. I can't do it.

After GRNDL-01 fell, the game only gave me 2 seconds gap before it automatically loads to Aesir. So I had to rebeat GRNDL-01 for the manual load.

At the door where I should be able to shoot the spider, stupid Thor AI keeps standing too close to me when I go near the door. I can't shake him.

From all the 9 pages I read, it seems everyone is doing this with their characters at level 50 with level 50 weapons. Is that right? Because I can't reach the spider with a level 29 laser rifle.

And does it matter if I saved and quit after I killed GRNDL-01? Does the glitch still works after you quit the game and come back to level 3-4? (Unrelated to gun malfunction)
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This is the best method EVER. I got 4 red runes, I red armour and 2 red weapons and about 2 million cash in about an hour!! Love that sound when you get something red!!
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@246 choose return to asir, not quit. That should help
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It works for me but I can lock on the spider but do not have enough range to damage it nore does my sedcondary do an thing to it =/
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This was awesome and just wanted to say thank you for the great info...it was so simple it made me wanna cry a lil bit
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holy cow this is awesome! sure beats having to wait 30/40 seconds each time for items to float to me. if anyone still plays this i could use some help. im lvl 50 cybernetic commando. only have epic helmet and rifle. have epic runes and epic pistols. still need the other 5 pieces of armor tho

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