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Old 03-23-2010, 03:26 AM   #1
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Exclamation Fireworks? Try this!

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It looks like the Fireworks is still problematic for everyone. However, I may have a solution, or at least a way to get it.

In Level 1-5 (Return to the Village), there are three Knight Watchers. One at the very beginning, two at the very end. I'm not certain if this requires you to kill solely with grenades, or whether you can use other weapons... however, JUST USE GRENADES! B At the first one, there's an ammo refill right in the middle of the platform you're on. The latter two at the end has a refill on the second level; use the vertical climb to jump on one of the ledges and go inside to find it. Just keep tossing grenades, trying to time the hold so that it explodes near the knights, and refill when you run out. By focusing on just using grenades, we can be more sure that there isn't another trigger that 'discounts' the kill from your total.

Important: Don't die. I'm not sure if you lose kill counts if you die before the check points. If you are getting nailed, find cover quick. Best suggestion is to do this on casual, so you have a lot more HP to work with. Just dodge out of the way until your screen returns to normal,

Try this, and see if this helps you out. Don't worry about the other fliers; focus just on the knights in this level and see if you get the achieve. Zoom as fast as you can through the middle part, and see if you don't get the achieve after 3-4 runs.

If this works, please post in this thread. If it doesn't, give it another 2 runs trying to kill those 3 knights with grenades, without dying during the stage. If you still don't get it, post your experience here as well.
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Old 03-23-2010, 06:17 PM   #2
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It's worth a try. I've been trying to get this achievement for days now, using numerous strategies, so one more wouldn't hurt. Once I've gone through it couple of times I'll post back and let you know what I find. Wish me luck! I'm going to need it (more for the sake of my sanity than anything else).
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Old 03-24-2010, 12:28 AM   #3
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Well, I come bearing good news. I have just acquired the infamous Fireworks achievement (and it feels so goooood! ), and I am happy to report that this strategy did work for me. In the end I ran through Level 1-5 three times, getting the achievement at the end of that third run. Each of the Knights were kill purely with grenades and I even managed to get a couple of extra kills by destroying the 2 or 3 airborne soldiers halfway through the level.

I would like to add one disclaimer though. As I stated in my first post I have been trying to get this achievement for quite a few days so I'm not sure what my total "airborne kill count" was eventually. That means that these final runs may have just been enough to push my total over the edge as it has been suggested in other threads here that the actually total is far over the 10 mentioned in the achievement description. Not sure how relevant this is but it's something to keep in mind.

Anyway, I can at least confirm that this method works. The chapter isn't to long and the Knights are far easier to hit than their smaller, faster cousins, even if it does take a couple of grenades to bring one down.

Best of luck to everyone else try to get this most annoying of achievements. It's a real doozy.
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Old 04-20-2010, 09:40 PM   #4
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I used this method and the achievement popped around 6 or 7 times through the level. It's either glitchy or as the above poster pointed out, simply takes more than the achievement states ... I was around 20 when I got it. Thanks for the tip
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Old 04-22-2010, 03:32 AM   #5
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I started using the method above also. Killed the first Knight using only grenades. But I remembered seeing in other threads that grenade kills in upward facing vertical combat counted too. So in the vertical combat section right after that first Knight I started throwing grenades, sometimes killing more than one with one grenade. The achievement unlocked during my first run on the vertical combat section. Could it really be this simple?

You can kill anything with the grenade, it just has to be at a higher elevation than you to count?
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Old 04-25-2010, 12:56 AM   #6
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I'm going to try this method now. I've made it a point to try and get as many in-air kills as possible so far, so hopefully a couple runs through the level will put me past the number for the achievement. I'll post back in a bit with my experience.

Still trying, and I have 8 so far, but here's a question I came up with: When you kill the Knight, do you also have to kill the slug-looking thing enemy that comes out of it with a grenade? Does that technically count as the "enemy," seeing as it comes out of the Knight?
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Old 04-25-2010, 02:30 AM   #7
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I'm going to try this method now. I've made it a point to try and get as many in-air kills as possible so far, so hopefully a couple runs through the level will put me past the number for the achievement. I'll post back in a bit with my experience.

Still trying, and I have 8 so far, but here's a question I came up with: When you kill the Knight, do you also have to kill the slug-looking thing enemy that comes out of it with a grenade? Does that technically count as the "enemy," seeing as it comes out of the Knight?
By my count, I have about 13 after a few runs. I did die twice (didn't reach the cliff while gliding), so I'm not sure if that has had anything to do with it. Also, I'm not sure all of the Knight kills were strictly with grenades, although a majority of them were. I'm gonna try a two more runs then pick this up another day. No reason to get frustrated by an achievement that I can't seem to get...

EDIT: Final count for the night is at 16, 10 or more of which I'm pretty sure that I killed strictly with grenades. I've tried vertical cover sections as I've played through the game and that obviously hasn't worked so far. Anyone have any other ideas?
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Old 04-25-2010, 12:14 PM   #8
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By my count, I have about 13 after a few runs. I did die twice (didn't reach the cliff while gliding), so I'm not sure if that has had anything to do with it. Also, I'm not sure all of the Knight kills were strictly with grenades, although a majority of them were. I'm gonna try a two more runs then pick this up another day. No reason to get frustrated by an achievement that I can't seem to get...

EDIT: Final count for the night is at 16, 10 or more of which I'm pretty sure that I killed strictly with grenades. I've tried vertical cover sections as I've played through the game and that obviously hasn't worked so far. Anyone have any other ideas?
Try some more runs, like I mentioned above my count was about 20. It's annoying but you can literally run past everything except the knights and the village square battle to make it go faster.
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