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Old 11-04-2010, 10:18 PM   #1
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List of Songs Helpful For Getting the 'HOPO-cidal Maniac' Achievement (WiP)

Please note this is work in progress. I do have a lot of DLC, and I'll add any songs I come across, but I can't remember every song with a lot of HO/POs, so rather than ranting at me to fix this, please just help me by informing me politely.

What is the HOPO-Cidal Maniac Achievement?
This achievement worth 25 gamerscore is for hitting a whopping 53,596 Hammer-ons and Pulloffs. You must not strum them for them to count, and it must be on guitar. Obviously this is a lot of work, but you can cut down some of your time by playing these songs, which have moderate to heavy use of HOPOs.

If a song is green like this, it is fairly easy even for players of lower skill.

If a song is orange like this, it means that a skilled player shouldn't break a sweat but if you are new to this game you may have trouble.

If a song is red like this, it means that you should take caution with these songs if you are an average player as they are difficult to even pass.

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Everybody Wants to Rule the World
Break on Through (To the Other Side)
In The Meantime
Crosstown Traffic
Saturday's Alright For Fighting
Something Bigger, Something Brighter
Freebird
Rainbow in the Dark
Before I Forget
25 or 6 to 4
Jerry Was a Race Car Driver

DLC (Price)
Laid to Rest (160msp)
Chiron (160msp)
Less Talk More Rokk (80msp)
The Metal (160msp)
Bulletproof (160msp)
Inside the Fire (160msp)
Woman (160msp)
Hallowed Be Thy Name (160msp)
Love Spreads (160msp)
Guns of Summer (160msp)
Satch boogie (160msp)
Joker and the Thief (160msp)
YYZ (160msp)
Tha Shnizit (160msp)
Levitate (160msp)
Caprici Di Diablo (160msp)
Rude Mood (160msp)
Hanger 18 (160msp)
China Cat Sunflower (160msp)
My Last Words (160msp)
My Name is Jonas (160msp)
Blue Sky (160msp)
The Way that it Shows (160msp)
Synchronicity II (160msp)
Tuesday's Gone (160msp)
Godzilla (160msp)
Are You Dead Yet (160msp)
Waking the Demon (160msp)
Nightmare (A7X) (160msp)
Another Way to Die (160msp)
Aesthetics of Hate (160msp)
Hysteria (160msp)
Afterlife (160msp)
Lucretia (160msp)
The Entertainer (160msp)
Sweet Home Alabama (160msp)
Sleepwalker (160msp)
She's always a Woman (160msp)
Through the Fire and the Flames (160msp)
Check My Brain (160msp)
Landslide (160msp)
Made of Scars (160msp)
Gasoline (160msp)
Tweezer (160msp)
Stash (160msp)
Burn It To the Ground (160msp)
Walk (Pantera) (160msp)
Black (160msp)
Even Flow (160msp)
Do You Feel Like We Do (160msp)
Rattlesnake Shake (bordering on Red) (160msp)
Unholy Confessions (160msp)
Welcome to the Family (160msp)
Hypnotize (160msp)
Aerials (160msp)
Two Weeks (160msp)
The Trooper (160msp)
Giddy on Up (160msp)
Writing on the Walls (160msp)

RB2
Bodhisttva
Painkiller
Panic Attack
Alabama Getaway
Spirit in the Sky
Alive
Ramblin' Man
Shackler's Revenge

RB2 Free 20
Prequel to the Sequel
Like a Fool
I Wanna Be Your Man
Ashes to Fire

RB1
Green Grass and High Tides
Flirtin' With Disaster
Outside
Vasoline
Timmy and the Lords of the Underworld


Lego Rock Band
Dig
Grace

Rock Band Network (Price)
Push Push (Lady Lightning) (80msp)
Persistence of Vision (80msp)
Tripolette (160msp)
Laceration (80msp)
Modern Mathematics (80msp)
Guitar Sound
Guitars Sucks (160msp)
Betty and Me (160msp)
Special Effects (80msp)
We Collide (beginners may need no-fail for the intro) (160msp)
Dogs can Grow Beards All Over (160msp)
A Christmas Rock Medley (80msp)
Cameleon Carneval (160msp)
Veil of Illumination (Part 1) (160msp)
Veil of Illumination (Part 2) (160msp)
For The Love of God (160msp)
Hangman (80msp)
Obfusication (160msp)
Dreamchaser (160msp)
Henchman Ride (160msp)
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Old 11-05-2010, 03:15 AM   #2
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I'm not sure how much effort it would take, but it would be cool if you could add the song length to HOPO ratio for songs. I think "Hallowed Be Thy Name (Live)" by Iron Maiden has quite a few.
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Old 11-05-2010, 07:45 AM   #3
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Thanks for the suggestion guys, added them to the list. I haven't got time to work on it now, because I'm off to school in a few, but I'll get to work on adding ratios. I assume this is the kind of thing you mean...

GGaHT with a ratio of 11 (length) to about 8 (lots of hammer-ons in both of it's epic solos). I'd write it like this

11:8
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Old 11-05-2010, 08:04 AM   #4
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Just play the game... got like 45 k atm and havent even focused on the cheevie.
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Old 11-05-2010, 08:17 AM   #5
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Just play the game... got like 45 k atm and havent even focused on the cheevie.
You come on an a website about achievements and say that.


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Rainbow in the Dark by Dio
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Old 11-05-2010, 08:29 AM   #6
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Tons of HOPOs, pretty easy to play on hard, and can be used for "Shameless Self-Promotion" cheeve.
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Old 11-05-2010, 08:31 AM   #7
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You come on an a website about achievements and say that.


Llama by Phish
Rainbow in the Dark by Dio
cause ived focused on everything else and just came back to watch how far the hopo was and it was at 45 k. A full song of less talk more rokk gave me around 1 k ish hopos btw.. something close to that when i got 99% notes hit.

Hopo songs

Love spreads - DLC
Persistence of vision - RBN
Prequel to the Sequel - 20 FREE DLC
Tripolette - RBN
Guns of Summer - DLC
Satch boogie - DLC
Laceration - RBN
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Old 11-06-2010, 08:30 AM   #8
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I'm not sure how much effort it would take, but it would be cool if you could add the song length to HOPO ratio for songs. I think "Hallowed Be Thy Name (Live)" by Iron Maiden has quite a few.
"Chiron" is 4:24 and gives an average of 800 HOPO's per run, though that's the only one I know specifically. I think it's safe to say that Less Talk More Rokk is the best song for this, as it's 4:59 and has about 1,000 HOPO's per run with an easy pattern for the fingers to play (it's also very cheap to buy at 80msp).

Random things to add from my experience with the achievement; I got 20,000 HOPO's from doing all the individual guitar goals and the Endless Setlist III, so you may as well do them first if you're a completionist. The achievement itself is actually very easy to get if you decide to grind the songs, playing a strong HOPO-based chart can get you the achievement in under six hours if you start from scratch and under 3.5 hours if you get the other guitar goals done before grinding. I relate it to the 10,000 scratches/5,000 crossfades in DJ Hero, it's a lot less daunting than it sounds.

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Just play the game... got like 45 k atm and havent even focused on the cheevie.
Not everyone enjoys playing the guitar, I certainly don't even though I'm well above average at it. I'll never have as much fun flailing fingers as I do hitting the crap out of my drums, so it's nice to just get these achievements out of the way fast.
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Old 11-06-2010, 09:33 AM   #9
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Added caprici, rude and hanger 18 to the list, and I also played levitate by I mother earth (metal pack exclusive) and that had quite a lot of hammer-ons in it, not too hard to play either though not as easy as Tears for Fears.
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GGaHT with a ratio of 11 (length) to about 8 (lots of hammer-ons in both of it's epic solos). I'd write it like this

11:8
Just say how long the song is and how many hammer-ons/pull-offs there are in the song. I'm sure people will be able to figure out the average amount per minute, based on those figures. Unless they failed basic math...
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Does using the tiny buttons to play hopo in solos count as "not strumming"?
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Does using the tiny buttons to play hopo in solos count as "not strumming"?
Only on HOPO notes, and only if you haven't broken combo. If you select the HOPOcidal Maniac goal (or, indeed, any of the "X HOPO notes" goals) from the goal menu interface, the star counter gets replaced with a counter of how many HOPOs you've managed to hit in your career. Very useful for spading this kind of thing out (which reminds me, Spade422: DAMN!).
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DLC Hysteria by Muse 160msp. A lot of HOPO's in this song, especially on bass. I would venture to guess somewhere around 800 notes.
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DLC Hysteria by Muse 160msp. A lot of HOPO's in this song, especially on bass. I would venture to guess somewhere around 800 notes.
hitting about 95% on bass gives you about 600 so that estimate isn't too far off. this is what i'll be doing to get mine.
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Hysteria on bass would be good, but it's under guitar goals so as far as I'm aware it can only be done on guitar. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Also, I have no clue if hammer-ons count if you use the solo buttons, I'm gonna research it and let you know.

As for the average ratio, it would be quite difficult to do if I have to count every hammer-on in a song because some of these songs I may not actually own, so how would i count it if I don't own it?

Have added all the suggestions above to this list.
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Another good song for the achievment is "Joker and the thief." If your a skilled expert player then its a good pick, but it could be a challange at the first playthrough or two.
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Hysteria on bass would be good, but it's under guitar goals so as far as I'm aware it can only be done on guitar. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Definitely true. You can't do any goals on the wrong instrument.
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Alabama getaway from RB2 has quite a few also and its very easy and quite short.
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Some more songs for guitar are:

RB2 Bodhisattva - Steely Dan
RB2 Pain Killer - Judas Preist


DLC YYZ - Rush
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Added the last three suggestions, and also added a colour code system to the list which ranks them on difficulty. See OP for details. Also can someone inform me what Laceration is like on guitar? I don't have that song myself.
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Here are a couple other good ones, I'll use your color system too!


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snow by red hot chili peppers dlc...if you can hit them XD
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snow by red hot chili peppers dlc...if you can hit them XD
That's a horrible suggestion, imo. There are very, very few HO/POs in that song. This is a thread about songs with lots of HO/POs, not songs that are hard or have a lot of notes.

The main riff only has two in each repeat, and the other sections of the song have absolutely none.
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That's a horrible suggestion, imo. There are very, very few HO/POs in that song. This is a thread about songs with lots of HO/POs, not songs that are hard or have a lot of notes.

The main riff only has two in each repeat, and the other sections of the song have absolutely none.
well, harmonix has recharted a lot of dlc songs when imported to rock band 3. for example, aesthetics of hate (OP should add to list btw) is now almost entirely composed of hammer-ons. i dont know of harmonix recharted snow (i dont have the song or access to a rb3 chart) but it wouldn't surprise me if they recharted the entire riffs to be HOPOs instead of awkward strumming.

but if its the same chart as in rb2, then yes, snow is a horrible choice.
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I just tried some RHCP...and yeah, horrible suggestion
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well, harmonix has recharted a lot of dlc songs when imported to rock band 3. for example, aesthetics of hate (OP should add to list btw) is now almost entirely composed of hammer-ons. i dont know of harmonix recharted snow (i dont have the song or access to a rb3 chart) but it wouldn't surprise me if they recharted the entire riffs to be HOPOs instead of awkward strumming.

but if its the same chart as in rb2, then yes, snow is a horrible choice.
It's still all strums on RB3, so I have no idea why he mentioned it haha
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Man, I don't know how you guys do it.

I can only get like 250 HOPOs on Freezepop - Less Talk More Rokk. I'm just retarded and can't get the timing and it moves so damn fast. Same with most heavy HOPO songs.

Sometimes I just stop playing and watch the notes fly by and call the game a bastard.

What is the significance of the 53,956 number?

Does anyone have tips on nailing the common HOPO strings of it going all the way up and down the scale? Besides practice? :P

Boy, this *cough* trophy *cough* will make a man out of me. Even if it is very HOPOsexual.

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Betty and Me - 160msp (Rock Band Network)
Really fun song where you're actually playing the banjo. I wouldn't know where to place it, it's somewhere between orange and red. Orange would be my bet. A lot of hammer-ons throughout.


My Last Words - 160msp
Lots of hammer-ons in this song, mostly during the intro, the main guitar riffs (4 of them), and the solo. Not much playing during the verse, and the outro is mostly fast strumming. Definitely very hard for the average player.
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i would put Betty and Me in red

My Name is Jonas - Weezer (160)

(not sure why Keyboard cat is there)

I love the thread by the way keep up the good work
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Just thought of another one

Dig - Incubus (Lego RB)
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