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Old 03-09-2011, 06:25 AM   #1
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So as soon as I saw the numbers (i play with subtitles on) at the end of the last mission I knew they were latitude/longitude markers and looked them up. They just point to someplace in NY state. I just came across this article about how it could possibly link the next game (or the one they are announcing in May) to a battle in the American Revolution.

http://oxcgn.com/2011/03/09/next-ass...spoiler-alert/

American revolution has been the time period I have been hoping for since playing the second game and seeing where it was going, so I hope this could be true. Not sure about the architecture of the time period and how many large cities or high landmarks there are to climb, but the story would be great. So much history on the templars/free masons and the founding of the US.
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Old 03-09-2011, 07:11 AM   #2
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So as soon as I saw the numbers (i play with subtitles on) at the end of the last mission I knew they were latitude/longitude markers and looked them up. They just point to someplace in NY state. I just came across this article about how it could possibly link the next game (or the one they are announcing in May) to a battle in the American Revolution.

http://oxcgn.com/2011/03/09/next-ass...spoiler-alert/

American revolution has been the time period I have been hoping for since playing the second game and seeing where it was going, so I hope this could be true. Not sure about the architecture of the time period and how many large cities or high landmarks there are to climb, but the story would be great. So much history on the templars/free masons and the founding of the US.

Smart idea. I shouldve played with subtitles on.

And sounds interesting. I think it would be fun to play in that time. Any time would be fun to play for me in Assassins Creed. Even dinosaur age
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I think they also gave hints for a second dlc, because Ezio talks about dealing with Ceasare once and for all and that he needs a ship shortly after the numbers show up.
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Old 03-09-2011, 03:05 PM   #4
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I think they also gave hints for a second dlc, because Ezio talks about dealing with Ceasare once and for all and that he needs a ship shortly after the numbers show up.
The Da Vinci Disappearance takes place in 1506 - the year before Ezio goes to Spain to kill Cesare in Sequence 9. That's why he talks about needing to charter a ship in the DLC.

On topic, I'm glad someone looked those co-ordinates up, I was interested to see where they pointed to! The location does seem to suggest that some portion of the next game would take place in America - but as the co-ordinates are intended for Desmond, it might suggest that he'll end up exploring around there in modern times? Probably not for the whole game though, maybe just a couple of sections where you play as Desmond, like in Brotherhood.
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The Da Vinci Disappearance takes place in 1506 - the year before Ezio goes to Spain to kill Cesare in Sequence 9. That's why he talks about needing to charter a ship in the DLC.

On topic, I'm glad someone looked those co-ordinates up, I was interested to see where they pointed to! The location does seem to suggest that some portion of the next game would take place in America - but as the co-ordinates are intended for Desmond, it might suggest that he'll end up exploring around there in modern times? Probably not for the whole game though, maybe just a couple of sections where you play as Desmond, like in Brotherhood.
^ This.

It's the most logical & we pretty much know it's going to be Desmond playing in the next game. Any new character or going back to play as Ezio or even Altair would probably be minimal with the focus being on Desmond.
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Old 04-03-2011, 08:27 PM   #6
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If you look good at the numbers and just type them into google maps you wil get to a place called Turin. and turin is english for Torino a place in italy which i think the next AC will take place.

And also when he talkes about salai Ezio says to him that he suits him. wich can be refferded to being gay. and if you look it up on wikipedia, it says that Da Vinci and silai probely had a sexual relationship.

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Old 04-03-2011, 11:17 PM   #7
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if you look good at the numbers and just type them into google maps you wil get to a place called turin. And turin is english for torino a place in italy which i think the next ac will take place.

And also when he talkes about salai ezio says to him that he suits him. Wich can be refferded to being gay. And if you look it up on wikipedia, it says that da vinci and silai probely had a sexual relationship.
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I find all these ideas very intersting to read!! Keep them comin guys, from one Assassin's Creed fan to another!
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if you look it up on wikipedia, it says that Da Vinci and silai probely had a sexual relationship.
Definitely not the most reliable source of information.
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So we are assuming that it is a +43°39'19"N , +75°27'42"W

Considering that Leonardo didn't understand the numbers, he could have omitted the (-) from either side thinking of it as a hyphen. This leaves us with four possible locations...
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I believe the N & W take the - or + out of the equation. It's the middle of New York State, near a town named Turin...as in the Shroud of Turin, one of the artifacts referred to in ACII and further explained in Project Legacy.

RelentlessFours is right, what it's setting up is that the Assassins are taking Desmond there while he's comatose. We'll explore another ancestor (when and where we don't know, but Leonardo talked about going to work for Louis XII of France), but Desmond will be trying to get to an artifact at the temple revealed in this DLC memory.

The shroud has the power to bring the dead back to life...don't buy a coffin for Lucy just yet.
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I believe the N & W take the - or + out of the equation. It's the middle of New York State, near a town named Turin...as in the Shroud of Turin, one of the artifacts referred to in ACII and further explained in Project Legacy.

RelentlessFours is right, what it's setting up is that the Assassins are taking Desmond there while he's comatose. We'll explore another ancestor (when and where we don't know, but Leonardo talked about going to work for Louis XII of France), but Desmond will be trying to get to an artifact at the temple revealed in this DLC memory.

The shroud has the power to bring the dead back to life...don't buy a coffin for Lucy just yet.
does anyone know who William is? He was mentioned during the dialogue referring to Desmond and the new memories (i think in the beginning, might have been at the end when they are heading to the new temple location from the numbers).
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does anyone know who William is? He was mentioned during the dialogue referring to Desmond and the new memories (i think in the beginning, might have been at the end when they are heading to the new temple location from the numbers).

There is an Assassin that Lucy and Shaun email through out the game named William M, might be the same guy
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Old 03-10-2011, 06:22 AM   #14
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If you search the coordinates on googlemaps and if you zoom out, slightly south of there is Rome New York, most likely not a coincidence.
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There is an Assassin that Lucy and Shaun email through out the game named William M, might be the same guy
That guy sound like a douche, even if he is on the Assassin Order.

Anyway, Great DLC campaign. Best 800 I've ever spend
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does anyone know who William is? He was mentioned during the dialogue referring to Desmond and the new memories (i think in the beginning, might have been at the end when they are heading to the new temple location from the numbers).

As stated above, William M is referred to in e-mails by Lucy and Sean. there is a strong suspicion that he might very well be Desmond's father or at least a relative. Desmond Miles. Desmond's parents were assassins and Desmond was abducted because of his DNA link to the pieces of eden so it is possible that he has other relatives in the guild as well.
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I'm just curious how they'll do Leaps of Faith in the next game.

Then again, they have bales of hay during the American Revolution. I just feel like it's getting old...
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As stated above, William M is referred to in e-mails by Lucy and Sean. there is a strong suspicion that he might very well be Desmond's father or at least a relative. Desmond Miles. Desmond's parents were assassins and Desmond was abducted because of his DNA link to the pieces of eden so it is possible that he has other relatives in the guild as well.
This is my theory as well. The AC comic series points to this as well. Someone mentions calling a "Bill Miles" to ask about some files, and "Bill Miles" is bolded to be noticed. Bill=William.
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does anyone know who William is? He was mentioned during the dialogue referring to Desmond and the new memories (i think in the beginning, might have been at the end when they are heading to the new temple location from the numbers).
William is Desmond's dad
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So we are assuming that it is a +43°39'19"N , +75°27'42"W

Considering that Leonardo didn't understand the numbers, he could have omitted the (-) from either side thinking of it as a hyphen. This leaves us with four possible locations...
The game nor him included the "+" and "-"

"+" means North or West, "-" means South or East.

In fact all it said was "43 39 19 N 75 27 42 W".
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We will find out everything we want to know about assassins creed 4 in may.
I think only Desmonds story will carry on in America, but im not sure who we will go back to in the animus
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Has anyone gone to these coordinates? You know every once in a great while, some company or someone hides things for people to find. It seems like it would be a great marketing story for something to be there and have someone find it. If I was remotely close, I would probably try it. Being in California, I am not going to make the trip.
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Looks like AC3 will be in America... :sigh: I was hoping for something else. Like maybe Russia during the revolution, or France, or maybe even China during the Boxer Rebellion or something.
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I just joined this site to post on this forum after looking the coordinates up on googleweb, and googlemaps.

I think its odd that none you noted what is at EXACTLY "43 39 19 N 75 27 41 W". Its literally a dark spot on the map. I don't know what it is, maybe a cave or a crater, idk. Here are a few pictures of it: http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/9677/crater1.png http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6761/crater2.png        http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/6639/crater3.png

Anyone saying that the + or - symbols might be different doesn't understand how map coordinates work. S and W are negative and N and E are positive, like a linear graph.

With the newest issue of gameinformer, we can rest assure that we will not be playing as an ancestor in America. We are officially playing in Istanbul (Constantinople). However, I would entertain the idea that modern assassins, templars, or even Desmond might go to that coordinate to check it out.
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ok i saw that picture of the coordinates on another website i dont think you did that yourself but thats besides the point...does anyone else find it ridiculous that in the real world tht this triangle works out this perfectly? How is it even possible that makers of this game discovered this random cave in a town in new york with less then 500 people? I dont know what happened with the free masons in the past but there is no way that this is a coincidence...im not insane clearly theres no artifact hidden in some cave in new york but something definitely went on in these places...its almost as if Rome and florence were founded to hint at where something was hidden in that cave...i dont know what maybe some old freemason treasure or something but theres just know what that traingle is a pure coincidence that the developers stumbled upon. On top of all this like someone else pointed out...the oerimeter of the triangle adds to about 72 miles...72.4 to be exact...you cant even try and tell me they ust stumbled upon that. And person above me tht doesnt even look like the same shape of the dark hole and besides tht i thought it might be water but if you change the map from satelite to terrain it doesnt show any water being there but it shows water wheree all the other dark spots are.

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I don't want Assassin's Creed to become a game where guns are the primary weapon. Not only do I not like games of that nature, but the fact that AC doesn't have guns as a primary weapon makes it unique, and therefore, in my case, more desirable. If Desmond's memories are taken to early America, I don't see them taking any other path than using guns.
However, I do not believe that this is the route that they will take. Assassin's Creed is known for diplaying grand, historical locations, whereas the settlements of early America are a rather plain and what I see as a step down from Jerusalem, Venice, Rome, and Constantinople. If you listen at the end of the Da Vinci Disappearance DLC, they say "we've got what we need". I believe that they (the two men speaking) are the Assassins (Maybe that William M. guy and even the mysterious "Erudito" that contacted Desmond earlier in Brotherhood) from the main Assassin headquarters that Lucy mentioned that they would see after they found the Apple. When they said they have what they need, I think they are talking about the coordinates for a piece of eden; the latitude and longitude point to a district in New York called Turin. The Shroud POE is also known as the Shroud of Turin. I beleive they are going to send Assassins (in the present day) to go retrieve the Shroud and use it to bring Lucy back to life. When/if Desmond comes back into consciousness at the end of AC Revelations, he is going to find Lucy is alive.

I also find it odd that nobody considered that Rebecca may have been a Templar.
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Given what we now know about revelations and that we are not having a new ancestor introduced and that we will be playing as Desmond, Atair and Ezio we can say that game play will not likely be any more inclined towards guns that the previous hidden gun. Also considering we are mainly going to be playing in Constantinople (at the height of the Ottamon empire) we can assume that the Co-ordinates are of course for the modern section.

I agree with the theory of William as Desmond's Father and the the co-ordinates are likely pointing to the shroud, to be used to heal Lucy. I do not believe that Lucy is a Templar but then on my play through of AC: Brotherhood I did not see the red tracks outside the villa.

I am however looking forward to new eagle vision that shows past, present and future and playing as Altair in a development of Ezio's Memories.
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