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Old 05-11-2011, 09:03 AM   #1
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I would buy this if it wasn't 1200 points.

I would absolutely buy this game if it was released for 800 points. But for 1200, I will not even be tempted to get it. Microsoft and their price gouging have cost them at least one sale.

Patience is a virtue, and it can save you money as well. In 2010 there were 27 games released at 1200 points or higher. Of these 27 games, 21 have already been on sale. Some for as low as 400 points.

Counting Gatling Gears, there has now been 10 games released in 2011 for 1200 points. This trend of increasing arcade prices is only going to continue. However, I will not support it. I will wait for it to go on sale instead.

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Old 05-11-2011, 05:22 PM   #2
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Sucks for you then. This is probably the best game of this genre on Xbox 360.
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Old 05-11-2011, 11:56 PM   #3
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Yes, I agree. Fantastic twin stick shooter!

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Old 05-12-2011, 06:09 AM   #4
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800 points is an absolute steal for a game. Also harder for devs to get paid on. Some games are more than worth 1200 points. And that's still a great price regardless. I've played many arcade games longer than some retail, and for a quarter of the price or less. Plus the concepts alone are sometimes worth paying a bit more. You can think of agreeing to the higher cost as supporting MS, even though they've plainly laid out they aren't the only factor in a game's price point. I think of it as supporting the devs. Downloaded the trial for this and if I enjoy it I'll purchase the full game immediately. I mean, I kinda owe it to them. I bought Greed Corp for 160 points.
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Old 10-13-2011, 05:55 PM   #5
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Yes, I agree. Fantastic twin stick shooter!
Kill Team is a solid second, but is way too short.
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Old 10-24-2011, 01:55 PM   #6
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I got lucky and was able to snag the game when it went on the 'Deal of the Week' section for 400msp. I have to say probably one of the greatest deals I've been able to catch on XBL. I absolutely love this game! Wish there were more games like this.
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Old 01-03-2012, 04:43 PM   #7
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Its for sale for 400 msp again now
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Old 05-12-2011, 11:27 AM   #8
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Is Microsoft really to blame for this game being $15 though? I'm pretty sure this is coming to PSN too, and it'll most likely be the same price.
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Old 05-12-2011, 11:44 AM   #9
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Is Microsoft really to blame for this game being $15 though? I'm pretty sure this is coming to PSN too, and it'll most likely be the same price.
Probably we should blame the publisher - EA? I remember their game Shank, which costs 1200pts too. Bought it day 1 and wasnt't worth it at that price. I'll pass this time. 600pts on DOTW after 1-2 months.

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800 points is an absolute steal for a game. Also harder for devs to get paid on.
Only few devs has made good money from 1200pts games so far - Chair, The Behemoth, Playdead Studios
For the rest price like this is just a nail in their coffin, because huge procent of the gamers doesn't even bother to download a trial for these games.

How excellent games like Bangai-o HD and Outland are 800pts with as much content (if not even more) as gatling gears? Just don't want to support the trend called ''1200pts'' anymore.

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Old 05-12-2011, 02:03 PM   #10
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I've played many arcade games longer than some retail, and for a quarter of the price or less.
I agree entirely with the quote above. I am a avid arcade gamer who owns well over 250 arcade games. I have bought plenty of them in the past at the 1200 price point. While some may be worth the 1200 price, I sadly found out that most were not. Some were almost criminal to sell at 1200 (Virtual On, NBA Unrivaled, Fret Nice, Faery, etc).

For 1200 points one should expect a game to be better than a 800 point game, but it is rarely the case. Like Sepultaras666 said with his examples of Bangai-o HD and Outland, many of the 800 games are better. For a substantial increase in price you would think there would be some distinctions between 1200 and 800 point games, but there is not.

I started this thread because I am tired of the 1200 point games, and I will not support that price point. You can convince yourself that the price is justified, and that I am missing out on a great game. Will you say the same thing when 1600 point arcade games become commonplace?
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You can convince yourself that the price is justified, and that I am missing out on a great game. Will you say the same thing when 1600 point arcade games become commonplace?
I purchased GTA IV: The Lost and Damned for 1600 points. Thought it was well worth it. But your argument is false. Supporting a reasonable price point of 1200 when the value of the game matches the amount doesn't necessarily mean we are enabling devs to charge an even higher price. It means we're showing the devs with our money - which is like a vote, to some extent - we value their product. We're giving them just a little extra on the off-chance they'll make a profit and create another great game. If you can't afford it, I understand that. But that's a different issue. The issue here is devs are artists and they deserve to make a decent living making the things we enjoy. Ever heard of inflation? If we don't pay the devs more money as prices increase elsewhere, they'll simply go out of business.
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I agree with op. 1200 is too much for this game. I was on the fence wondering whether or not I wanted to buy the 800 MS points (during my demo play through) the game was maybe worth it. When I realized they wanted $15 I thought forget it. There wasn't even a plot just walk shoot and as the game touts "blow shit up". Well Just cause 2 does better at blowing shit up and I already own it.
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Old 05-13-2011, 12:01 AM   #13
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If you can't afford it, I understand that. But that's a different issue.
Like I stated in a earlier post, I already own 250+ arcade games. I also own around 200 retail games, so for me this is not about being able to afford the games. For me not buying 1200 point games is the principle of the matter. 1200 point games continue to be released that are simply not worth the price. As a consumer I decided to take a stand and not support this trend.

Swamptastic mentions supporting the developers, and as my purchasing history dictates, I have supported them. I also support American dairy farmers, but if the price of milk jumped from $3 to $5 because the dairy farmers just wanted more money, I would not support them either. There is no difference in quality between a $3 and $5 gallon of milk, and that is the issue I am having with 1200 point games. There is no better value in a 1200 point game than a 800 point game.

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Ever heard of inflation? If we don't pay the devs more money as prices increase elsewhere, they'll simply go out of business.
Sorry but I do not agree with this logic. Because of inflation, consumers essentially have less money and purchasing power. But according to your rational we should "give them (developers) a little extra" for them overpricing a game while we have less money to spend? If this makes you happy, then by all means continue. However, I take no satisfaction in knowing I overpaid for something.
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Old 05-12-2011, 02:41 PM   #14
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Only few devs has made good money from 1200pts games so far - Chair, The Behemoth, Playdead Studios
For the rest price like this is just a nail in their coffin, because huge procent of the gamers doesn't even bother to download a trial for these games.
This actually gives evidence for my point. We the gamers are at fault they don't make better money from this. We think these games aren't worth 1200 points so we don't download the trial. If more of us would support this price point the devs would make more money. Yes, it's great when devs offer 800 point games which are worth more. The point is they're selling them for less than they should because they want cheap-ass gamers to buy the game. If they thought they could have a hit at the 1200 point level, they'd sell at that level. Not all games are worth 1200 points, of course. And I certainly appreciate purchasing 800 and 400 point games which are worth that price. But I support the 1200 price point when I feel it makes sense for the game.
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I 100% agree.... you just have to wait it out
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