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Old 07-15-2012, 07:45 PM   #1
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Foxiest of the hounds

Does tripping mines or panacea people turning hostile block off getting the achievement at the end? I tripped one emp on my current playthrough but all there was near by was a camera and nothing went hostile, and last playthrough I never got caught but I did walk through a laser wire but it only alerted the guards not hostiled them, guess it was still bad, what about explosive mines? And finally can I just run through panchea, it was a bitch trying to sneak by them all especially on the catwalk (I did manage it though)
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Old 07-29-2012, 01:26 PM   #2
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If you don't trigger any alarms you're fine. Guards can be alarmed and even hostile just don't let them trigger the alarm system. If they do just reload last save. Be careful with cameras/turrets and try not to fail when hacking safes/computers/doors because some will trigger the alarms.
About Panchea, I ran through it and still got the achievement.
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Old 08-05-2012, 07:27 AM   #3
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I recently unlocked 'Foxiest of Hounds' and this is what I discovered:

- Cameras can become suspicious but NOT hostile (green is regular; yellow is suspicious; red is hostile)
- Robots can go hostile if they don't alert other guards or sound the alarm
- Tripping mines does not void the achievement so long as it doesn't alert other guards (be wary of frag mines)
- The crazy people on Panchea can go hostile because they are incapable of enabling the alarm (they just want to kill people )
- Certain parts of the game where the enemies are supposed to be hostile (Saving Faridah, etc.) do not affect the achievement.

Funny thing is, I didn't even intend on getting 'Foxiest of Hounds'; I was working on my 'Doctorate' playthrough (reading all experience books) and was always taking the stealthy approach in preparation for the next playthrough on the hardest difficulty. After acquiring my last Ebook, I figured I might as well finish the game to get the Pacifist achievement and possibly 'Foxiest of Hounds' and I luckily got them both.
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Old 09-05-2012, 07:38 PM   #4
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I just got this achievement yesterday and the ONLY thing that counts are alarms set off by soldiers using control panels on the wall (they have hand icons on them), failing hacks, and by cameras spotting you.

I did this on my 2nd playthrough let me explain the things I did which still allowed me to get the achievement:

I murdered EVERYONE. Every mofo I came across. Seriously, doesn't matter if they spotted me and went hostile as long as I killed them before they touched the alarm on the wall. Doesn't matter if one of them came across a body and were "alerted" I killed them as well.

Many cameras spotted me and were "suspicious" but they didn't set off the alarm. If they turned red (or spotted a corpse) I would reload, but otherwise I moved on.

Turrets spotted me and beeped, but didn't raise the alarms.

I threw many EMP grenades at cameras and turrets to destroy them.

I disconnected a hack if I felt I was going to fail it. (failing a hack will set off the alarm).

I almost never got the "Smooth Operator" bonus.

I killed all the crazy people at Panchea.

I also triggered a lot of frag mines and threw frag grenades whenever I wanted.
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Old 09-05-2012, 11:29 PM   #5
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About the pacifist one, I think the best way to be sure to get it is to no interact with ennemies at all (except boss) which mean to not kill them or even knock them (if you don't knock any enemy, you are sure to not have someone killed because of a bug).

As long as you don't do "Foxiest of the hounds" and "Paficist" as the same time, might be pretty easy in easy mode (just need to use the coating function to avoid most of the ennemies without caring about alarms as long as you don't die) and do the contrary for "Foxiest of the hounds" (take any time needed and reload when you hear an alarm).
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Old 09-06-2012, 02:09 AM   #6
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Apologize if this was mentioned before, but if I failed a hack in an area but didn't hear alarms go off.

Specifically, in the first level after the prologue where you come across an office with 7-8 desktops, I failed one after I took out all the guards in the area.

The computer locked me out but I didn't remember see the radar indicate that it set off any alarm.

Would this fail the Foxiest of the Hounds achievement?
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Old 09-06-2012, 02:46 AM   #7
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Apologize if this was mentioned before, but if I failed a hack in an area but didn't hear alarms go off.

Specifically, in the first level after the prologue where you come across an office with 7-8 desktops, I failed one after I took out all the guards in the area.

The computer locked me out but I didn't remember see the radar indicate that it set off any alarm.

Would this fail the Foxiest of the Hounds achievement?
As long as no alarms were sounded or any additional guards were sent to investigate then you should be safe. If I were you I would've immediately reloaded a previous save just in case. If you're far enough in the game, though, then just keep going and see if it unlocks at the end.
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Old 12-01-2012, 09:49 PM   #8
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I recently unlocked 'Foxiest of Hounds' and this is what I discovered:

- Cameras can become suspicious but NOT hostile (green is regular; yellow is suspicious; red is hostile)
- Robots can go hostile if they don't alert other guards or sound the alarm
- Tripping mines does not void the achievement so long as it doesn't alert other guards (be wary of frag mines)
- The crazy people on Panchea can go hostile because they are incapable of enabling the alarm (they just want to kill people )
- Certain parts of the game where the enemies are supposed to be hostile (Saving Faridah, etc.) do not affect the achievement.

Funny thing is, I didn't even intend on getting 'Foxiest of Hounds'; I was working on my 'Doctorate' playthrough (reading all experience books) and was always taking the stealthy approach in preparation for the next playthrough on the hardest difficulty. After acquiring my last Ebook, I figured I might as well finish the game to get the Pacifist achievement and possibly 'Foxiest of Hounds' and I luckily got them both.
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Old 01-06-2013, 09:06 PM   #9
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I congratulate all of you who got it. For some reason, I didn't. I had some guards get to alarmed state, but always reloaded if I tripped an alarm or they went hostile. I even hid on the last boss fight and didn't let the crazy people on Panchea go hostile, yet I didn't get it. Next playthrough will be on Hard. Will try for it again, but I am already preparing myself for not 1k'ing this one. I also missed one of the side missions by mistake and am not sure I have the stomach to do the whole thing again on Hard...
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Old 01-13-2013, 05:29 AM   #10
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Ok, what gives? I followed 2 different guides that BOTH said get "smooth oporater" at x spots and you'll get the achievement. I just did that, didn't even kill a single person nor alerta, and got ghost at every possible spot. I didn't get it D< what gives!?
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Old 01-19-2013, 03:35 PM   #11
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I'm just starting and it's so difficult to tell what an alarm is. I'm going through the manufacturing plant and I just passed a room of 4 guys without ever alarming any of them. Right after I walk through the next door there is a red flashing light and an alarm like sound going off. None of the enemies are alerted, though. Is this an alarm that I set off? Or is this just an alarm that the enemies set off an are ignoring now?

Its the part with the tutorial on security systems.
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