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Old 04-23-2011, 08:12 PM   #1
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What's up with everyone saying this game is easy?

I recently started playing this game on the normal difficulty for my first time ever. I figured this game was easier then DMC4 so I decided to give it a shot since everyone said it was an easy 1000

However it turned out to be quite challenging... I only got one silver statue on a level and the rest were stone. Additionally I must have died >50 times in the short time I played. I don't get it. I feel like I'm doing everything right. I tried not to use a massive amount of items, I mixed up combos, and I attempted to get most dodges. I just don't see how I'm going to do this on hard or the hardest difficulty... Is there something else? IS there a cheep trick people use or something? Are there walk-throughs people use to make fights easier. Please help!

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Old 04-23-2011, 09:00 PM   #2
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I recently started playing this game on the normal difficulty for my first time ever. I figured this game was easier then DMC4 so I decided to give it a shot since everyone said it was an easy 1000

However it turned out to be quite challenging... I only got one silver statue on a level and the rest were stone. Additionally I must have died >50 times in the short time I played. I don't get it. I feel like I'm doing everything right. I tried not to use a massive amount of items, I mixed up combos, and I attempted to get most dodges. I just don't see how I'm going to do this on hard or the hardest difficulty... Is there something else? IS there a cheep trick people use or something? Are there walk-throughs people use to make fights easier. Please help!
Well I think I have found an answer to my problem. It is most likely my weapon combination since when I changed that things became a heck of a lot easier. Alright, I don't think I need anymore help, but if anyone else has any suggestions feel free to post otherwise mods you are free to delete this thread. I got kind of mad and I just posted this without thinking. I know it was stupid and I'll try not to let it happen again. I didn't mean to flood your boards with old things that have already been asked.
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Old 04-23-2011, 09:05 PM   #3
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Don´t worry about the harder difficulties, you will be able to collect tons of items along the way that will make it much easier for you!
Check out the collectibles guide to see where/how you can get those. I´m mainly referring to the ´broken moon pearls´ (increase your magic gauge) and the ´bloody witch hearts´ (increase your vitality bar). Make sure that you have collected as many as possible before you advance to hard mode. That also means that you need to complete as many Alfheim challenges as you can (check out the guide for the locations), since you get either a moon pearl or a witch heart as a reward for completing them. These challenges are also a great way to train yourself, improve your skills. The Alfheims are only availabe in normal mode and harder, I strongly recommend to do them on normal since that will be easier. Buy all the remaining hearts/pearls at the Gates of Hell. There are also accessories that you can buy from Rodin. Take a look at what they do and use them to your advantage!
You will also unlock new weapons during the game, more powerful weapons.

Keep playing, you will get better at it. Don´t worry.

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There is the ´flute glitch´ that could help, but if I were you I wouldn´t use it too much since these items are not available in the Alfheim challenges!
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Old 04-27-2011, 12:45 AM   #4
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Just learn witch time and the game basically plays itself. I rented the game and got all the achievement in 7 days! it was an adrenaline rush!! all the combos and just doing a speed run was so much fun, tip for playing on climax i don't waste your lollipops ! save them
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Old 05-04-2011, 04:29 PM   #5
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Sword and Witch-time = Untouchable on first two playthroughs.

Even infinite climax wasn't that bad, it just required patience since witch time is gone. This was one of the most unique and fun experiences in early 2010.
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Old 05-10-2011, 05:34 PM   #6
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I have this game in the drawer (still sealed), but not played it yet! I assume from what has been said above, that you can build your character and items/upgrades carry over from 1 playthrough to the next??
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Old 06-25-2011, 10:41 AM   #7
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it does get hard at some parts of the game, i died a few times in the game mostly in the Route 666 scene but that was on Super Easy/Easy mode, i want to see if it does get even harder in the other modes
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Old 06-29-2011, 05:19 AM   #8
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This game gets hard but that's because the combos are no where near as fluid as the ones of dmc.
I would say though anyone who speaks the game of being easy used the flute glitch . Its by far not easy at all.
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Old 07-02-2011, 08:35 AM   #9
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You probably heard it was an 1000 because of the Rocket Kick glitch, which makes getting your combo meter in each verse ridiculously easy. The game itself takes some getting used to (mastering witch time and discovering the Alfheim Portals), but if you like/love DMC then this game is definitely for you. Remember, some achievements are supposed to be challenging!
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Old 07-05-2011, 06:31 PM   #10
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This game is pretty easy. Just a few tips:
1) Start on easy or very easy. This way you can unlock all your moves and some nice accessories. But the best thing is: you unlock the immortal marionette accessorie.
2) Start a game on normal and buy/equip the imortal marionette.
3) Just start tapping the b and y button and jump around a bit. Normal mode completed.
4) Start a game on hard mode and repeat step 2 and 3. Collect some health potions for the final boss in the epilogue.
5) I havent started the hardest mode, but i suppose it should be a bit more challenging. If its too hard; replay some missions on (very) easy to earn halos and buy more health potions. O yea; you can get a bigger health bar by finding items ingame or buying it in shop.
6) I understand there are some glitches that can help you out as well.
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Old 07-05-2011, 07:35 PM   #11
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I found this game really hard aswell, gave up on it after finishin it once.
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Old 07-07-2011, 05:55 PM   #12
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the game is not easy at all, try the people who said that is cause they complete the game and thats all but get all the achievements its hard a least for a regular player.
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Old 07-07-2011, 05:56 PM   #13
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but is worthy so u can see bayoneta a lot uhhh so sexy XD
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Old 07-16-2011, 06:15 AM   #14
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Wow, alot of different responses here!

Well, I like the game, to be honest, I LOVE THE GAME, it's nothing like DMC, it's f'n better! I always thought that DMC was made by the Japanese FOR THE JAPANESE! And Bayo was made so that we in the west could enjoy something similar!

First and foremost, X Y X will be your bread and butter! practice this in your sleep, the great thing is you can even charge each attack, hold X hold Y hold X

Another thing, KILGORE GLITCH people! heeeellllooooo?
First, Kilgore must be on the feet in one set and Durga on the feet in the other, it doesn't matter what you have in your hands, I recommend, Durga on hands AND feet for set one, and Durga for hands and KILGORE for feet in set two!

Now let the magic begin!

What you do is, you start witht the Durga/Durga (LIGHTNING recommended) set and you go P P P P K
once you hit the K(ick) button, you should see Bayo raising her leg (going for the kick) THIS IS WHEN YOU SWITCH TO THE OTHER SET BY PRESSING LT!

And since I'm a n00b on this site and don't know how to post a the video in my post, I'ma have to do it like this:
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Hope this helps!

And oh! STAY AWAY FROM IMMORTAL MARIONETTE, it's sucks, and it's a waste of halos! You're better off spamming X Y X, Scarburough (the sword, sorry for misspelling) and Durga works awsome!

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Old 07-18-2011, 10:53 PM   #15
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Sword and Witch-time = Untouchable on first two playthroughs.

Even infinite climax wasn't that bad, it just required patience since witch time is gone. This was one of the most unique and fun experiences in early 2010.
I agree. Once I played it on normal then hard, I already had enough experience on this game, and I died less times on infinite climax than on previous difficult settings. I think it's obvious to say but knowing how to dogde is the key to clear the game on infinite climax.
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Old 07-20-2011, 04:04 PM   #16
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And oh! STAY AWAY FROM IMMORTAL MARIONETTE, it's sucks, and it's a waste of halos! You're better off spamming X Y X, Scarburough (the sword, sorry for misspelling) and Durga works awsome!
Okay to each its own. Some like to glitch and cheat their way to achievements, while others like to use the methods that are offered by the game.

I finished it on hard in 2 weekends by using the Immortal Marionette. It wasnt much of a challenge, but i was only playing this game for achievements anywayz...

Its a cool game though. Maybe if i had more time for this game i would play it more often.
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Old 12-12-2011, 12:05 AM   #17
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It's those Alfheim portals that I am finding to be such a pain!
I'm currently playing through on my hard difficulty and so far so good, but some of those portals I cannot seem to complete....
Gonna try those again after beating hard difficulty.
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Old 01-18-2012, 02:19 PM   #18
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The game has hard bits and easy bits like everything else.
Of course, using the plaza telephones to get the tough stuff like the beam sword and that uber-accessory (I forget names) doesn't hurt either... especially for achievement purposes.
My trophy case only has a complete line for V.Easy mode. The rest are piecemeal at best because I preferred to take them on while flailing wicked weaves all over the damned place with every attack.


I'm also wondering if that accessory which activates witch-time when you get hit will work on Infinite Climax... afterall, it seems to work in other situations where I shouldn't be able to do witch-time (did strike me as odd).
Guess I COULD find out... but I have to find the last of those damned chests first... -_-;



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It's those Alfheim portals that I am finding to be such a pain!
I'm currently playing through on my hard difficulty and so far so good, but some of those portals I cannot seem to complete....
Gonna try those again after beating hard difficulty.
You could have tried doing them on Normal... Just saying.
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Old 02-10-2012, 01:17 AM   #19
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The Bracelet will work in infinite climax, but only for a fraction of a second it seems. Make it easy on yourself and use the pillow talk cheat code, infinite climax will be a breeze.
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Old 02-24-2012, 02:24 AM   #20
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I found most of the game to be a matter of preparedness. The more I learned the different combos, weapons, and timing the easier everything became. Some alfheims were impossible, until I'd find the one thing I needed to do (i.e. holding attack buttons down longer on limited kicks and punches levels.)
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Old 03-22-2012, 08:36 AM   #21
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I found most of the game to be a matter of preparedness. The more I learned the different combos, weapons, and timing the easier everything became. Some alfheims were impossible, until I'd find the one thing I needed to do (i.e. holding attack buttons down longer on limited kicks and punches levels.)
True, but i still think some of those Alfheim are a matter of luck, i found some of those to be the biggest pain in the game,
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Old 04-09-2012, 04:57 PM   #22
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For the first 2/3 of the game on normal it was quite easy, but the last third was extremely hard, so I had to go grind on lower levels to get more abilities to finish the game on normal. This is one of the few games that I have had difficulties finishing on normal, so in my mind this isn't your typical "easy game".
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Old 04-14-2012, 03:07 PM   #23
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For the first 2/3 of the game on normal it was quite easy, but the last third was extremely hard, so I had to go grind on lower levels to get more abilities to finish the game on normal. This is one of the few games that I have had difficulties finishing on normal, so in my mind this isn't your typical "easy game".
I agree. I got the hang of it eventually, but resorted to doing climax difficulty using the climax bracelet. You just need to find some weapons that suit you. I liked the sword and ice shoes. Then just keep with Y B Y etc.
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Old 06-13-2012, 10:53 PM   #24
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Yeah wait til you get to Climax difficulty, and Witch Time goes out the window. :] It took me FOREVER to get past the first "flashback" battle with Jeanne on Infinite Climax as on top of not having witch time I didn't have my acquired weapons. x____x The final battle with her was super hard as well. She made the final boss look like a joke.
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I think some people are liars. I'm having a pretty rough time on normal so far (still trying to get used to witch time and such) and I have 1000 in DMC4. The combos don't seem to flow as well and I personally think the gameplay is a little too complex (i.e. too many different combos to even begin trying to memorize.) The game is fun, don't get me wrong, but this game is providing a decent challenge for me.
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Old 08-22-2012, 05:58 AM   #26
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I think some people are liars. I'm having a pretty rough time on normal so far (still trying to get used to witch time and such) and I have 1000 in DMC4. The combos don't seem to flow as well and I personally think the gameplay is a little too complex (i.e. too many different combos to even begin trying to memorize.) The game is fun, don't get me wrong, but this game is providing a decent challenge for me.
-Whistles- I gave up trying to plat DMC4. If you've pulled that off, you shouldn't find much issue with this shortly.

You'll find this game becomes a lot easier later on. Trust me.

I died a lot on my normal play-through, but the following one on Hard I completed it with only a single death on Route 666... thanks to a damn ledge. ∞ climax is a bit rougher thanks to removing witchtime, but with it you have incentive to use the Evil Harvest Rosary which will still disrupt enemies and let you knock in a combo on them with a proper dodge. After playing through on normal and hard, this should be enough for a quick finish.

However, it gets even easier. There's two other accessories which play the game for you if you're still finding it difficult.

  1. Climax Brace: All attacks become wicked weaves. Purchase for 5,000,000 Halos or find all Umbran Tears.
  2. Immortal Marionette: AI given to Bayonetta to automatically move, dodge, and attack. Beat game on Easy.
Climax Brace sounds expensive or difficult to get, but a boss early game has a cap on life he can lose, and has a set animation for the battle. You can score a million halos from one round with him easily. With this thing, its rare for any enemy to even be able to reach you.

Immortal Marionette is just as sad. Game plays for you. Sure, it dings your points, but if you're just after the easy 1000GS, it's still available.

Stuff like the portals may still be a bit of a challenge, but what kinds of Angels spawn will differ based on your difficulty setting. It's a rough game to perfect, but it's an easy game to get 1000GS in. Remove the above accessories and it most likely wouldn't be in the easy 1000 list. Still in the quick 1000 though.
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Old 09-23-2012, 01:39 AM   #27
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The only hard difficulty is Non-Stop Ifinite climax difficulty since you have no witch time at all. Unless you got an accessory that gives you witch time when you are hit. It only last for 1-2 seconds max and that's it other than that its DMC gameplay. Use dodge offset with wicked weave attacks an it should be a breeze. The only hard one I had trouble with was 3 consecutive counter attacks with moon of kahla
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infinite climax was fun! If a bit anoying, key is to getting the accessories later on in your hard playthrough that enable witchtime when dodging. easy peasy
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This game is pretty easy. Just a few tips:
1) Start on easy or very easy. This way you can unlock all your moves and some nice accessories. But the best thing is: you unlock the immortal marionette accessorie.
2) Start a game on normal and buy/equip the imortal marionette.
3) Just start tapping the b and y button and jump around a bit. Normal mode completed.
4) Start a game on hard mode and repeat step 2 and 3. Collect some health potions for the final boss in the epilogue.
5) I havent started the hardest mode, but i suppose it should be a bit more challenging. If its too hard; replay some missions on (very) easy to earn halos and buy more health potions. O yea; you can get a bigger health bar by finding items ingame or buying it in shop.
6) I understand there are some glitches that can help you out as well.

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There is the ´flute glitch´ that could help, but if I were you I wouldn´t use it too much since these items are not available in the Alfheim challenges!
Game sounds broken as hell, if you don't want to play legit.
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Well the people saying its easy are mostly considering achievement wise, wich i guess if you are willing to put many hours into it, then its probably not that hard.

Personally i think the game is very forgivable in parts when others are dumb. I mean... often i get caugh by a platform breaking or last second quick time event and die.. but there is always a checkpoint very close... Does it annoys me to die in such a dumb way? Absolutely. But i can restart very close...

Other time its when i end up a battle, i am very low on health only to see a Boss battle happening right after... I start the battle with no health... thats kinda dumb, especially since the game is greedy on life items. BUT if i die, i can always restart the battle with full health(i play on normal, first playtrough) so now i usually just kill myself right awa to not waste time...

I would say this game is a big bag of mix for me. I am not that fond into the beat em all of that style, the ones where you more or less loose tracks of your character in all those lights and flashes on screen(i swear sometimes i wonder where my character is) and most of the time i end up just using witch time with button mashing to advance... I prefer beat em all in a more realistic way.

Then i will say i don't give a rat ass about documents i find in the game.. in fact i started reading them at first, then i mostly just checked them up a bit skipping some stuff, then eventually i stoped checking them all together.

But the main story and cinematics interest me tough. I also really like the main character ways of acting and dialogues.

So more or less im going into the game slowly, and i know once i completed it i will probably not reply it, even if its the kind of game where you can keep everything and replay levels and get money to buy more and more stuff... somewhat i dunno... don't see myself replaying it many times...

Its fun, its good, its just not that special, and not my usual type of gameplay...

Yes i bough it because the girl on the cover was hot... and i head it was a beat em all... thats it.. so i didn't had that much info on it. I paid 15$ anyway, not like it costed a fortune...
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