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Old 05-09-2011, 07:46 PM   #1
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Trust me the AI on here will cause you to want to cut yourself. Your team-mates are dumb as shit, but the enemy AI can be worse than veteran on WaW.

It will take you a half to whole clip to down someone and then you have to use the other half or reload to kill them or one hit melee.
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Old 05-09-2011, 07:52 PM   #2
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In the trailers it looked like it took a lot of bullets to drop someone. Everyone that has this game early is complaining about it. Officially check me out of the hype. Thanks for being one of the many that saved me some hard earned $$$.
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Old 05-09-2011, 08:16 PM   #3
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In the trailers it looked like it took a lot of bullets to drop someone. Everyone that has this game early is complaining about it. Officially check me out of the hype. Thanks for being one of the many that saved me some hard earned $$$.
I have also written many good things about it too, I just know there will be bitching.

Please at least rent the game as it has great things to offer but tweaks are in order and there will be a patch tomorrow.

I played some games online and had a great time but playing with the AI will piss you off.
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Old 05-09-2011, 08:40 PM   #4
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I finally got all the 3 star challenges done solo, My only bitch is the A.I. should be focusing on helping you defend a territory instead of focusing on freakin caputuring a health station
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Old 05-09-2011, 08:54 PM   #5
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I finally got all the 3 star challenges done solo, My only bitch is the A.I. should be focusing on helping you defend a territory instead of focusing on freakin caputuring a health station
Yup and you cant do them in co-op as it doesnt count for beating them.
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Old 05-09-2011, 09:15 PM   #6
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Yup and you cant do them in co-op as it doesnt count for beating them.
Right now these are the four I'm having problems with

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Old 05-09-2011, 09:51 PM   #7
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Right now these are the four I'm having problems with

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Old 05-09-2011, 10:21 PM   #8
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I just found out all the gameplay and trailer videos they showed us are from the PC version of the game, graphics are total shite on xbox, people say. Lol just another HYPED bomb.
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Old 05-09-2011, 10:54 PM   #9
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I just found out all the gameplay and trailer videos they showed us are from the PC version of the game, graphics are total shite on xbox, people say. Lol just another HYPED bomb.
WOW!! You are right, I only seen one vid for it about 6mos ago. Well I have had the game since 5-3-11 on 360 and I tell you it does not look like them vids I was seeing.

Now Im really mad, as I want that game I seen on gametrailers.
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Are you guys serious about the challenges? If I do it online they will not count towards the achievement?
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Old 05-09-2011, 11:54 PM   #11
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Are you guys serious about the challenges? If I do it online they will not count towards the achievement?
I think they mean co-op, like with a partner.

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Old 05-09-2011, 11:58 PM   #12
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Are you guys serious about the challenges? If I do it online they will not count towards the achievement?
Me and my friend tried to do a challenge to gather and we beat it but when I looked at the stars, I was still on lvl 2.

Now I just did the escort mission lvl 3 and the damn AI spawn camped me, they set up turrets right outside my spawn and they also was out there too. You are a engineer and you have to escort a drone down a corridor and enemies will spawn and come out these rooms set along the walls. When you get past a room the enemies will stop coming from them and you might spawn from them, depending on how far you have guided your drone. I got my drone almost to the exit and died, came out the room and they spawn camped me, so I couldnt even make it back to the drone and time ran out.
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Old 05-10-2011, 12:34 AM   #13
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Me and my friend tried to do a challenge to gather and we beat it but when I looked at the stars, I was still on lvl 2.

Now I just did the escort mission lvl 3 and the damn AI spawn camped me, they set up turrets right outside my spawn and they also was out there too. You are a engineer and you have to escort a drone down a corridor and enemies will spawn and come out these rooms set along the walls. When you get past a room the enemies will stop coming from them and you might spawn from them, depending on how far you have guided your drone. I got my drone almost to the exit and died, came out the room and they spawn camped me, so I couldnt even make it back to the drone and time ran out.
Escort was not as bad as the 1st one and last one last one was fin miserable
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Old 05-10-2011, 12:34 AM   #14
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The game is great and then gets repetitive. The graphics are great, but the speed on the PS3 version (Can't say much about the 360 version) is not as fast as I assumed it would be. I only used the Medium wait and the Heavy wait to complete the challenges, but the Heavy has a good speed on him too.

I haven't been able to run on walls and shoot or run up walls and shooter, but I can travel quickly get to the second floor in most levels. The game is the same offline and online, I think that will kill the game quickly. I played free play after beating one side and I played the same level objectives over, that I played when I was trying to save the Ark.

The Ark is big, the levels are at a good size, making the combat and the gun fights exciting. Some of the weapons are bad at the beginning of the game and some of the attachments, that I unlocked didn't help the weapon as much, but hurt the gun.

I played for 6 or so hours the other night and got 50% of the trophies and most was just by playing around. The best part of the game for me was when I was playing the Challenge mode, I will not spoil anything there. The story is long and short depending how you play and how quickly you complete the first and so on objectives. The 'what if' objectives are great, but gives a good story moving forward on the what if I pass or fail, and most have failures have a story on what happens when you fail.
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Old 05-10-2011, 02:33 AM   #15
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i just wanna get the game and 1k it in a week then move on lol
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Old 05-10-2011, 05:11 AM   #16
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Well, I must wait for a video guide of those challenges then.
There´s no way I can get past the first one 2 stars run and the last one 3 stars run.
The other 2 I have beaten.
Strange enough, the scort challenge, 3 star run, I failled near it´s end, but on the challenge select screen it has the white dot, meaning I beat it.
If someone have some tips on how to beat those mentioned, please share.
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Old 05-10-2011, 05:19 AM   #17
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Well, I must wait for a video guide of those challenges then.
There´s no way I can get past the first one 2 stars run
It's un-beatable. I assume with 4 humans you could do it, but not solo. I tried about 30 times (got myself over 60000XP for it though) and never can hack the machine at the end. Infinite respawning enemies right on top of the objective...nice programming guys.

Oh well, 760/1000. Game is crap, already returned it today...bring on LA Noire
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Old 05-10-2011, 05:31 AM   #18
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It's un-beatable. I assume with 4 humans you could do it, but not solo. I tried about 30 times (got myself over 60000XP for it though) and never can hack the machine at the end. Infinite respawning enemies right on top of the objective...nice programming guys.

Oh well, 760/1000. Game is crap, already returned it today...bring on LA Noire

Which challenge?
Escort Duty or Be More Objective?
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Old 05-10-2011, 08:55 AM   #19
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Me and my friend tried to do a challenge to gather and we beat it but when I looked at the stars, I was still on lvl 2.

Now I just did the escort mission lvl 3 and the damn AI spawn camped me, they set up turrets right outside my spawn and they also was out there too. You are a engineer and you have to escort a drone down a corridor and enemies will spawn and come out these rooms set along the walls. When you get past a room the enemies will stop coming from them and you might spawn from them, depending on how far you have guided your drone. I got my drone almost to the exit and died, came out the room and they spawn camped me, so I couldnt even make it back to the drone and time ran out.
I remember one of the dev's saying the Lv3 challenges are a bitch, for the devs and test team. Need to see for myself friday
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i just wanna get the game and 1k it in a week then move on lol

Thats the spirit. After 1K´ed i go to Dirt 3 and complete Duke Nukem.
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Old 05-10-2011, 11:39 AM   #21
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It's un-beatable. I assume with 4 humans you could do it, but not solo. I tried about 30 times (got myself over 60000XP for it though) and never can hack the machine at the end. Infinite respawning enemies right on top of the objective...nice programming guys.

Oh well, 760/1000. Game is crap, already returned it today...bring on LA Noire
I struggled with it but got it on my second try. It's not that bad, you just have to keep plugging away after you clean house. The important thing is to make sure you clean house and your guys push forward a bit, if you push them forward they'll hold off the baddies long enough to get the job done. You can also move while hacking; I remember it being a close call but I got it done by moving around and hiding behind stuff toward the final few ticks.
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Old 05-10-2011, 11:40 AM   #22
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I remember one of the dev's saying the Lv3 challenges are a bitch, for the devs and test team. Need to see for myself friday
They are not so much a bitch as cheap.

the first challenge is Be More Objective and it will have you switching classes to complete objectives. You start as a soldier and you have to plant a bomb, then guard it, switch to engineer, repair a console, switch to a operative, plant a hack, grab and deliver case. Your "team is supposed to help you, they wont. Your team-mates will be a soldier and 2 medics. I have actually had the medic stand on my bleeding body and go to run off and get killed, and never revive me, and you dont live long enough for the soldier to give you ammo.

They should have given you a engineer instead of soldier, as a engineer gun increase your weapon damage and give out Kevlar plates, lay mines and make turrets. The medics can give you extra health, speed up your healing, and increase your running speed for a short time. Now medics can also give you a adrenaline shot to cause you to ignore all damage for a short time but when it wears off, you get all the damage at once. The adrenaline shot would be so helpful for times you have to plant, repair, and hack, at these times you will be standing still and getting raped.

The enemy AI will use every ability except the adrenaline shot. Your team AI will sometimes increase you health, healing and speed. The enemy AI will lay out turrets, your team will get mowed down by them. The enemy AI will guard the objective, you team will try and grab a useless command post in a challenge.

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I struggled with it but got it on my second try. It's not that bad, you just have to keep plugging away after you clean house. The important thing is to make sure you clean house and your guys push forward a bit, if you push them forward they'll hold off the baddies long enough to get the job done. You can also move while hacking; I remember it being a close call but I got it done by moving around and hiding behind stuff toward the final few ticks.
I had the AI set up a turret right in front of the place to plant the hack. It wouldnt be so bad if I didnt have to kill the medics so they cant revive people but then I have to kill the rest too, including the turret. By the time Im ready to start the hack they have already respawned and their spawn is right next to the objectives.

Playing co-op with a friend doesnt count as beating it either.

I am amazed to see how enemy AI will sometimes some what spawn trap you and set up choke-points, etc. Your team AI will do none of that.

I hope some things can be tweaked with a patch. I dont mind the challenge but at least give me a adequate team to succeed. What Splash Damage has done is no better than Treyarch with WaW and its forever spawning enemies, invisible lines to cross, and worthless team AI.

When I play online against people, I have a blast but after playing through campaign on both sides, you will see the online is the exact same thing to the objectives and maps. This will get old quick if they dont get some dlc.

I love what Im seeing but cant shake the feeling that they might need a sequel to truly show what Brink can do.

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Playing co-op with a friend doesnt count as beating it either.
Yeah, I've read about that, which sucks big time. However, I was alone when I did it. None of my buddies will have it until shops open up today.

I feel you though. The AI definitely isn't adequate on our side, but they can still be manipulated so you can get stuff done. I don't find that really acceptable either, but it is what it is for now. I guess I should consider myself lucky. I knew the AI would be garbage, no matter how reassuring Splash Damage was about them being good. They're tryin' to sell a product, not tell the truth. So I was expecting about this level of play out of them. The only thing that surprises me about them is how garbage they are at killing. Enemies AI can put in some work, ours apparently just learned how to hold a weapon.
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Finally, get this bitch done.
Search on youtube, there´s some nice videos that helped me a lot.
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Old 05-10-2011, 05:23 PM   #25
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Well after reading the posts I'm a little depressed!! I was really looking forward to this game, and it promised so much!
Mine is arriving on Friday, so i'll still give it a go.
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This game is so sad. If you play it for five minutes, you can see it has AMAZING potential. But there's so many technical issues, lag, glitches, game imbalance, the stupidest AI since the NES...they broke it. It needs a huge patch before it'll even be playable (the day-one patch doesn't count). And I can't imagine they'll put that much effort into fixing it. It's a shame.
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This game is so sad. If you play it for five minutes, you can see it has AMAZING potential. But there's so many technical issues, lag, glitches, game imbalance, the stupidest AI since the NES...they broke it. It needs a huge patch before it'll even be playable (the day-one patch doesn't count). And I can't imagine they'll put that much effort into fixing it. It's a shame.

Agreed. I guess the reason that I hate it so much is because I was expecting so much from this game and it just didn't bring it home. The online play isn't too bad if you can get past the lag. I have won a couple matches in the games that I've played single handed so it can give you a little bit of a rush of actually being useful, but so does team fortress and that game was so much better.

The AI is worthless and makes the game not a lot of fun to play. I really hope that they do something about it in a future patch. I played multiplayer through security missions 3, 4, and 5 on normal difficulty and that level of difficulty should be what hard mode is like. The more players you add the more brutal the enemies become and the more worthless your remaining AI get.

Having a stupidly hard AI setting is good but it shouldn't be the only option that you get when playing. Even on easy trying to do some of the escort missions alone really blows.
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my only complaint is the difficulty. even on easy i can't accomplish anything. this game is too hard.
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Thanks for all the comments. I've been trying to decide if I should pick up my preorder, and I'm going to have to give it a pass for $60. I'm going to wait to get it used from Gamestop so I can return it if I don't like it. Going from some of the reviews/user comments I've read, they probably already have some.
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The game is fun when it's working. I tried posting this on Splash Damage's forum, but the removed it so I'll post it here.

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